Mongols Faction Review with Terry! SAGA THORSDAY 180

[@markbirch5619]

Excellent insights from Terry who was very open about his strategies & combinations. Much appreciated.

[@terrydoner4486]

Thank you!

[@RodgeRules]

Agreed! Thanks for watching, Mark!

[@Juch1]

Cool! Atlast the best Faction ingame got your attention! Some tricks im using while playing them. So you can hire a Lifeguards for Warlord, and combine with Predators ability. It will make your Warlord a Heroic unit = Heathguards. Means Your Warlord will have 6 shooting attacks with a composite bows! And also you can place a unit of levy with bows and within S a unit of warriors. Then you active a levy to shoot, and triiger Short Range Volley, place a fatigue on your nearest warrior unit. So your levies a shooting for L, and your opponent still needs to reroll successful save rolls.

[@RodgeRules]

Ooo, nice! Thanks for chiming in, Juchi! Some clever tactics there!

[@grahamswargamevault2635]

Excellent master class by Terry. Loads of content, I play mongols and I learned loads. Thank you Rodge for uploading

[@RodgeRules]

Thanks Graham! Glad you found it helpful!

[@grahamswargamevault2635]

@@RodgeRules I thought Terry spoke well with excellent content , indeed one of your best faction reviewers.

[@frankfreyiii]

Great video! Right now I'm looking into kitbahing Mongol Hearthguard using the new Fireforge Byzantine Cataphracts and FF's Mongol Cavalry.

[@RodgeRules]

Ooo, that should be an awesome mashup! Show me some pics if you go through with it!

[@markwaddington9447]

At 4:30 the discussion turns to getting a Camel drummer for 1/2 point along with Terry's warband breakdown. 1-1/2 points of HG, 1/2 point of Drummer and 4 points of Warriors. The posting of the camel drummer specs show 1 point. Am I missing something?

[@RodgeRules]

Hi Mark! The Camel Drummer was updated to a 1/2 point in the 2021 FAQ.

[@markwaddington9447]

@@RodgeRules Thanks Rodge! Love your reviews and choice of guests!

[@scotsbillhicks]

Just looked at the FAQ. It says trade 2 HG or 4 W (technically half a point)

[@alixbarclay5198]

Quick thought from listening to this. If Scorched Earth is an activation does it count for composite bows? Can you move up, shoot for free, Scorched Earth, then free shoot again?

[@markbirch5619]

I don’t think so as you do not activate your unit with Scorched Earth. It is an ability that is played in the Activation Phase.

[@terrydoner4486]

I agree with Mark's comment. You specifically need to do an activation between shots and using a board ability is not in and of itself an activation. However, you could start the turn within VS of the terrain...play Scorched Earth, shoot, activate for move and shoot again.

[@alixbarclay5198]

Fair enough, it doesn't say activate a unit.

[@RodgeRules]

Common question on activation abilities! Some activate a unit, some do not. We could really use another word in the Saga ruleset to cover that distinction.

[@michaeldemana6657]

Perfect timing on this, Rodge and Terry! I just finished my Mongols last week!! Terry, we have the exact same build. I remember when we played July 2021 you had a couple units of Hearthguard. Was your change in reaction to the 1/2 point Kettle drummer? Or did you prefer 1x6 over 2x4 as a result of game experience?

[@RodgeRules]

Woohoo! I'm curious what Terry says on the 1x6 vs 2x4. I'll ping him!

[@scotsbillhicks]

Thank you very much. First figure I am painting up is the camel drummer (not sure what I did with the starter pack, but I’ll find them…) I was puzzled by your reference to the cost of the drummer, and how you get six HG, then I found the 2021 FAQ, which I did not know had been released. Looks like the concepts in AOM are being retro-fitted to the other books. Feels like it would be Warlord, 2 points HG (drop 2 figures to get the drummer)= 6 HG, 4 points of Warriors. Yes I would like a unit of Scouts but this is a tight list. 4 x8 = 32 ? 4 units of 8 would be my default. That gives me 4 Saga dice, plus 1 for the Warlord, 1 for the drummer??? 1 dice for the six HG 7 (or 6?) dice plus a lot of ways to activate units without using dice. I described that alternative to the Usual Suspect. 11, 9, 7, 5 they grasped the implications and were very unhappy. Perchance because they did not think of it first.

[@RodgeRules]

Glad you found the FAQ, Ian! The Scouts always seem good in theory but in most games they don't end up pulling their weight. I say stick with the warriors!

[@ainstycastings1859]

Great guest, bring him back soon.

[@RodgeRules]

Will do! Thanks for watching, Andy!

[@PatrickWeaver-zs7bd]

I am assuming one must spend a saga dice or use We Obey to activate the "Horde" ability, correct?

[@RodgeRules]

The wording isn't totally clear but it's played as its own activation ability with no prior trigger.