The Nvidia G-Sync Module Is Dead

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@Justin-ym5ce
@Justin-ym5ce 5 ай бұрын
Oh boy, all the 300 new OLED monitors this year are going to get new versions next year lol
@TechTusiast
@TechTusiast 5 ай бұрын
So? The old ones keep working just fine. Gsync module is next to useless as "gsync compatible" is all you need.
@Justin-ym5ce
@Justin-ym5ce 5 ай бұрын
@@TechTusiast that’s quite exactly the point lol wonder how many are going to buy this newer “better” version because of their severe FOMO
@GFClocked
@GFClocked 5 ай бұрын
​@@TechTusiasti do wish we got oled pulsar. I have c1 with bfi and its insanely good, but being locked to 120 means i have to keep a lot of headroom incase i get a demanding scene. So often i could run maybe 200 fps avg but still only get 120fps min 1% low. Bfi is too good on oled and really unexplored on monitors as it is now.
@sentryion3106
@sentryion3106 5 ай бұрын
Good. I can buy a great used one that’s basically as good as the newest
@aberkae
@aberkae 5 ай бұрын
I predicted that Nvidia will have dp2.1 gsync monitors ready for Blackwell so it's possible.
@coladict
@coladict 5 ай бұрын
The G-Sync module is dead! Long live the G-Sync module!
@DaKrawnik
@DaKrawnik 5 ай бұрын
Module how we know it is dead* Fixed
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 5 ай бұрын
I'm still rocking a g-sync monitor and like the fact it can sync all the way down to 1hz. (especially with games like final fantasy 16 on pc, that has 30fps cutscenes, so they look smooth)
@yerdude
@yerdude 5 ай бұрын
@@legendp2011 There's no reasonable purpose to scale down to 1Hz. it's not going to make 1 frame per second any less torn.
@nulian
@nulian 5 ай бұрын
@@yerdude My gsync monitor was just so much better in that part that any vsync compatible monitor I had.
@asysjr
@asysjr 5 ай бұрын
One minute I held the key Next the walls were closet to me And i discovered that my castles stand upon pillars of salt and sand
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good move for nvidia. Remove their hardware cost, work with partners, turn it into a software license fee.
@PrefoX
@PrefoX 5 ай бұрын
it is still a hardware solution. the hardware costs are reduced but not zero
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 5 ай бұрын
@@PrefoXNot a cost to Nvidia. They just license to Mediatek, Monitor manufacturers buy from them.
@user-ew8lt6yi2i
@user-ew8lt6yi2i 5 ай бұрын
@@keyboard_g why are you talking like you own nvidia. consumers are still charged extra for it and this is what matters. so shoo, shoo
@disclaimer4211
@disclaimer4211 4 ай бұрын
If only theyd do this with theyre graphics cards
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-ew8lt6yi2i You get what you pay for.
@phizc
@phizc 5 ай бұрын
I have an older Acer Predator monitor with G-Sync.. If that thing has a fan, it's the quietest fan I've never heard.
@Swerg20
@Swerg20 2 ай бұрын
The G-Sync fan inside of the LG 38inch ultragear ultrawide from 2020 is horrible, constant high pitch whine
@plinyvicgames
@plinyvicgames Ай бұрын
same. always shocked to hear that some monitors are actively cooled and loud...
@buddybleeyes
@buddybleeyes 5 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait.... it's been 10 years since GSNYC was released?! 😮 I feel old now 😂😂
@aberkae
@aberkae 5 ай бұрын
@@buddybleeyes Don't blink 😉!
@buddybleeyes
@buddybleeyes 5 ай бұрын
@aberkae Literally man 🤣🤣🤣
@ImOnMy116
@ImOnMy116 5 ай бұрын
haha, I feel you on that! I still have one of the OG BenQ 144hz 1080p G Sync panels on my desk, hard to believe how far monitors have come since then
@Silverhks
@Silverhks 5 ай бұрын
Worse, I'm still using one of the original G-Sync monitors🤣
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 5 ай бұрын
Grindr-Sync
@B0Sajwah
@B0Sajwah 5 ай бұрын
I am so lost, so many concepts
@DaKrawnik
@DaKrawnik 5 ай бұрын
GSYNC compatible monitors are Validated to be artifact free. Not Validated and Certified as shown in this video. GSYNC with module are Validated (artifact free) and Certified (300+ tests). Current monitors with modules could not receive firmware updates. I imagine going the MTK route will change that.
@N3gn4v
@N3gn4v 5 ай бұрын
Man, i remember when i got the world's first G-Sync IPS Monitor "Acer 27" Predator XB270HU" on July 2015.
@DKTD23
@DKTD23 5 ай бұрын
I still have that monitor. Still no dead pixels and brightness is the same. A pretty well-built monitor. Purchased mine in Nov 2015.
@Jojo_Tolentino
@Jojo_Tolentino 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see another hundred-dollar difference for a g-sync monitor, now with a new sticker.
@Raivo_K
@Raivo_K 5 ай бұрын
Mediatek scalers dont cost hundreds of dollars.
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz 5 ай бұрын
@@Raivo_K But Nivida branding and a new sticker does is what he's inferring
@Raivo_K
@Raivo_K 5 ай бұрын
@@scarletspidernz That's speculation at this point. We'll see what the prices will be.
@dagnisnierlins188
@dagnisnierlins188 5 ай бұрын
Gsync tv's soon then
@aberkae
@aberkae 5 ай бұрын
@scarletspidernz My prediction. Nvidia will have a dp2.1 monitors available for Blackwell Titan RTX for them whales. So after the 1 or 2 quarters of craze prices will drop significantly, especially by Black Friday 2025.
@BoredErica
@BoredErica 5 ай бұрын
Alienware Oled monitor DW measured way better than DWF for vrr flicker in Rtings test. Whether that's due to Gsync module is far from proven, as it's the only oled monitor with the module... But it's an interesting thing I wish could be investigated more. DW measured by far #1 for vrr flicker.
@craig9365
@craig9365 5 ай бұрын
I've noticed the flicker maybe once so far and when I do it's usually a really dark and demanding scene. Thankfully the flicker isn't that big of an issue for me
@iSteveGWT
@iSteveGWT 5 ай бұрын
Ive had the DW for almost 2 years now and have never seen any vvr flicker in any games, from darker games like dead space remake or resident evil 4 to games like bf2042 where it’s maxing out monitor hz.
@Cptraktorn
@Cptraktorn 5 ай бұрын
@@craig9365 the flicker happens to me whenever there is a micro stutter, and depending on game/engine that can happen very often.
@DrakonR
@DrakonR 5 ай бұрын
Of course it's because of the module..
@AyoKeito
@AyoKeito 5 ай бұрын
@@craig9365 you can see VRR flicker right there in this video. At 4:43, for example.
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 5 ай бұрын
I'm still rocking a g-sync monitor and like the fact it can sync all the way down to 1hz. (especially with games like final fantasy 16 on pc, that has 30fps cutscenes, so they look smooth)
@arnabbiswasalsodeep
@arnabbiswasalsodeep 5 ай бұрын
They used just FPGA for gsync for quite a while, hence the cost & need for active cooling.
@DaKrawnik
@DaKrawnik 5 ай бұрын
They just used something they designed...
@arnabbiswasalsodeep
@arnabbiswasalsodeep 5 ай бұрын
@@DaKrawnik later on sure, but all the previous models didn't. And even if FPGA, it still meams they'll have to design it since that's how they work. The same HDL code tested on FPGA with timing constraints & routing constraints are then put into ASIC without those constraints.
@Saba-jr8yb
@Saba-jr8yb 5 ай бұрын
​@@DaKrawnikThe very first module was an Altera Arria V GX FPGA.
@Goodmanperson55
@Goodmanperson55 5 ай бұрын
They're pretty much taking notes from Smart TV design. They have had discrete video processing chip for ages now. It's practically standard design for them. It's an interesting move.
@middle_pickup
@middle_pickup 5 ай бұрын
Interested to see Nvidia's pulsar in action. Hoping these monitors will actually be more affordable.
@EVPointMaster
@EVPointMaster 5 ай бұрын
They announced some monitors with Pulsar, but unfortunately no dates or prices. But I looked up one of those monitors and it's current version without Pulsar is 1 grand. I don't think the Pulsar version is going to be cheaper.
@jumpman1213
@jumpman1213 5 ай бұрын
I guess it's...good? Seeing as there were some monitors with G-Sync module that can cause compatibility issues with Radeon cards despite having a FreeSync/Adaptive Sync certification.
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 5 ай бұрын
No it's terrible, in my opinion, it will prevent Freesync from further progress.
@jackoberto01
@jackoberto01 5 ай бұрын
​@@kesamek8537How so? Freesync haven't exactly been innovating recently anyway. The only really good updates have been HDR support and GSync compatibility support
@Krushx0
@Krushx0 5 ай бұрын
@@kesamek8537 wow, are you for real? like Freesync did any improvement since its release, right? if there is room for improvement without a dedicated module sure they can improve and invalidate this new module as they did back in the day but if there is no room for improvement this module not prevent any improvement whatsoever. I cant even process how could you got to a conclusion that this prevent others to go further. Its completely flawed.
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 5 ай бұрын
@@kesamek8537 freesync is still stuck unable to sync below 40fps in many cases. where as g-sync refreshes all the way down to 1fps (1hz). important for slower computers that can only hit 30ish fps (or games that have capped cutscens at 30fps)
@giglioflex
@giglioflex 5 ай бұрын
@@legendp2011 What nonsense, both G-Sync and FreeSync support LFC below 30 FPS.
@levygaming3133
@levygaming3133 5 ай бұрын
Hope this means we’ll see laptops with this new MediaTek scalar and access to all the previously module exclusive features. There haven’t been any laptops with the G-Sync module so they’ve all been just “G-Sync compatible” but now we should be able to get full G-Sync or even G-Sync Ultimate displays! Totally Psyched.
@photonboy999
@photonboy999 5 ай бұрын
Almost certainly. In theory, the power consumption for the Mediatek chip should be negligible. Ideally you also get 2048+ backlight zones, not only for deeper blacks but should also be more power efficient.
@johansjostrand6026
@johansjostrand6026 5 ай бұрын
Bummer that G-Sync Pulsar is not supported on any of the recently announced 1440p 480Hz OLED monitors. I guess we will have to wait until next year for that.
@hastesoldat
@hastesoldat 5 ай бұрын
OLEDs don't have a backlight and are not good candidates for Gsync Pulsar. On OLEDs you can only do BFI and you can't dynamically change the persistence by variating the strobe length duty cycle. And you need that for Pulsar.
@johansjostrand6026
@johansjostrand6026 5 ай бұрын
@@hastesoldat I though so too at first but listen to what Tim says at 5:17, "I asked Nvidia about support for OLED:s with this new G-Sync scaler and they confirmed that theoretically OLED panels will be supported through this partnership although the inital focus is on high-end LCD panels." I'm sure they'll figure out how to combine VRR and BFI.
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 5 ай бұрын
​@johansjostrand6026 Yeah true altho bfi isn't nearly as useful but it would still be nice tbf. Honestly should be way easier to implement actually
@Khazar321
@Khazar321 5 ай бұрын
Oh I never noticed, that I had the only OLED monitor with GSync on the market. I love the wide thing, can't wait to upgrade in 5-10 years. Just remembering how long I had to wait for a decent gaming OLED monitor.. the industry really is milking the snails pace they are working at.
@spuddyl9938
@spuddyl9938 5 ай бұрын
"a decade ago" Wow has it been already 10 years?
@Kapono5150
@Kapono5150 5 ай бұрын
Get ready for those trash Media Tek chips. I remember it took Sony forever just to get VRR working through HDMI 2.1
@mikewmoran84
@mikewmoran84 5 ай бұрын
I remember that and it's probably more on Sony for over promising and under delivering...just to sell more tvs. I've used tvs with the newer, more capable Mediatek chips and they work pretty darn good.
@OniMirage
@OniMirage 5 ай бұрын
​@mikewmoran84 because they designed the chip? come on dude spread the blame on that I'm sure sony would have wanted flawless announcement and release.
@walker2006au
@walker2006au 5 ай бұрын
VRR just blew my mind when it came out, Once I experienced those first 120hz screens I needed that buttery smooth performance and without VRR any dips below 100fps felt woeful with stutter, once G-Sync arrived I could handle dips down to as low as 80fps without being too pissed off. Glad we now have freesync/adaptive-sync, so good.. Also annoys me that people focus so much on VRR stopping tearing.. come on.. Adaptive V-Sync did that, its the removal of stutter thats the game changer.
@god-zilla4233
@god-zilla4233 13 күн бұрын
And input delay
@WheeledHamster
@WheeledHamster 5 ай бұрын
Now with the word Pulsar, it sounds fancy and space techy, it must be good.
@Wobble2007
@Wobble2007 5 ай бұрын
Tandem-OLED with FPGA accelerated Nvidia Pulsar and HDR-RBFI injection is when things finally get interesting for me, and it's worth replacing my fancy Sony CRT gaming monitor, which looks incredible with RTX & perfect motion-clarity and incredible input fidelity that standard sample & hold OLED can not get anywhere near.
@MaxHasManyHobbies
@MaxHasManyHobbies 5 ай бұрын
This is great! I've used non G-SYNC compatible monitors and the VRR flickering is annoying. This channel told me it didn't matter nowadays which adaptive sync to use which whatever GPU, but I've had to return one better monitor to get a lower quality monitor which is officially G-SYNC compatible. It still has some flickering, but it's minor.
@A.Froster
@A.Froster 5 ай бұрын
Is it a VA panel ? Because every VA panel i tried had some kind of flickering with G Sync. Had no problem whatsoever with IPS or TN panels
@dagnisnierlins188
@dagnisnierlins188 5 ай бұрын
It's a va or oled problem
@MaxHasManyHobbies
@MaxHasManyHobbies 5 ай бұрын
@@A.Froster Good point, yes it was a VA monitor. It is my first time experiencing a VA monitor and I'm not a fan. I don't like the motion blurry issues, even of the latest VA monitors. I replaced the VA monitor with an IPS monitor.
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 5 ай бұрын
freesync vrr can only sycn between 40hz and above. gsync can sync much lower hz (all the way down to 1hz). huge difference for me
@MaxHasManyHobbies
@MaxHasManyHobbies 5 ай бұрын
@@legendp2011 Good to know, thanks, but the Freesync monitor that I was using had issues even when the frame rate only went down to about 60 FPS. It still flickered until I turned off VRR.
@estamnar6092
@estamnar6092 5 ай бұрын
Ive been saving up for a full-Gsync monitor for 3 years now. Seems im now saving for this.
@LegendaryDJ
@LegendaryDJ 5 ай бұрын
Still running the old almost decade old ROG PG279Q. Was an absolute beast back in 2015 when I got it my pc wasn’t even powerful enough to hit 165fps at 1440p and I guess you could say the same about these 240hz 4k monitors these days even a 4090 can’t touch that reliably without significant compromises to image. These high end monitors are only really useful for esports games that run fine on ancient hardware. Since then CRT tech has been my go to putting out a far superior gaming experience that can scale with pc power and type of game being played. The worlds first native multi display mode monitors. Size and desk space is the only downside really.
@Composition_B
@Composition_B 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully the new module will be better equipped to mitigate vrr gamma flicker on the oled side of things. 🙏
@danfg7215
@danfg7215 4 ай бұрын
Great, I'll see this tech 5-8 years from now, when I buy a new monitor.
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 5 ай бұрын
Interesting update, i would have thought this would be a bigger deal for Oled monitors as they have a focus on image quality.
@lordslugger
@lordslugger 5 ай бұрын
Holy shit 10 years of g-sync
@triton302
@triton302 5 ай бұрын
I don't know if this is related to the G-Sync module in my LG OLED monitor or just the monitor itself, but I specifically bought this monitor because it was "G-Sync" enabled to use with my RTX 4080 Super. Playing games like Starfield and Cyberpunk 2077 caused a lot of flickering with G-Sync on, turning it off stopped the flickering.
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 5 ай бұрын
This could mean MediaTek could be strongarmed into de-featuring the scalers they put into products that don't carry the full nvidia branding, in my opinion. edit: therefore making Freesync relatively gimped going forward.
@dagnisnierlins188
@dagnisnierlins188 5 ай бұрын
Probably we will soon see gsync tv's
@photonboy999
@photonboy999 5 ай бұрын
I could see VRR working with AMD.. but for Pulsar, VRR+Strobing not working.
@giglioflex
@giglioflex 5 ай бұрын
Yep, hence the problem with Nvidia vertically integrating into everything. Nvidia already strongarms AIBs due to their market power so I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same with other spaces they are creeping into. They pull the same BS in the AI space. Nvidia is essentially a horizontal and vertical monopoly in the GPU market.
@RubMySweatyThighs
@RubMySweatyThighs 5 ай бұрын
Lgs already have gsync for years ​@@dagnisnierlins188
5 ай бұрын
Yea I don't like it, yet people in the comments are cheering for it. Gotta love a monopoly.
@DSDSDS1235
@DSDSDS1235 5 ай бұрын
In general this means more, lower cost vrr lcd monitors with vod and strobing as well as good fald algo for miniled, which is a good thing. Personal though, im using oled, and whether this means oled bfi without refresh rate compromise dictates whether this is extremely exciting or mildly boring.
@krandeloy
@krandeloy 5 ай бұрын
Good point. I do like that you've updated the community with this. I wouldn't have known without someone telling me. I can pass this on to my brother too. He's gotten more, newer, monitors since but he still daily drives his first "big expense" monitor from 2014 back when G-Sync was still relatively new. I guess that means he should have to wait another couple years. His wife gets the last say lol.
@NovusDundus
@NovusDundus 5 ай бұрын
Ehh this is neat. But it was announced sounding like an update to existing monitors. I was hoping vendors like Samsung would update their Odyssey line for better compatibility
@KingdomUploader
@KingdomUploader 4 ай бұрын
Thanks H.U.; i had no idea the Nvidia scaler module required a G-sync monitor to include a fan! While Nvidia GPU users wait on the new tech to reach us - we basically should just buy a G-sync COMPATIBLE monitor? Can you recommend me an IPS that at least has a Wide Color Gamut, like DCI-P3 or Adobe RGB? I will need to use Nvidia DSR to 'hopefully' upscale my 480-720P movie collection and display them well enough on a 32" 1440P monitor. That would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again for the news flash!
@LOLHoneybadger
@LOLHoneybadger 5 ай бұрын
Any plans to possibly review the Samsung 57" Super Ultrawide (which is like 2 32" monitors side by side) that's dual-4K resolution? I think it's only 'down side' is being Mini-LED instead of OLED, but I would love to see your review of it... it's 1000R curve, but that's also what I'm used to (I have a 49" G9 Odyssey currently). I'm hoping Samsung/LG will make a OLED-version of the 57" Super Ultrawide monster.
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 5 ай бұрын
I loved my early g-sync monitors 120hz and using 3D gaming🥳💪🥰👍. I still have my 3D glasses set and components and would be interested to see if these work ont he new g-sync modules coming out🤩😁
@epencrep
@epencrep 5 ай бұрын
I'm curious about the frequency range for the new G-sync module because that was a big advantage compared to other VRR implementations. Having VRR on games running less than 45fps can make a huge difference to perceived smoothness
@soulshinobi
@soulshinobi 5 ай бұрын
Always appreciate these technical breakdowns.
@DarkSansTV
@DarkSansTV 5 ай бұрын
Nvidia has been setting an unprecedented bar recently, once completely proprietary is now going maybe not completely open source but is at least making tools available to create stuff that they've created in the past, truly innovative stuff and as far as my knowledge goes, the only company to actually do this with their software, it is genuinely surprising that this is the direction that Nvidia chose to go, kinda makes me wish more companies did this
@Movie_Games
@Movie_Games 5 ай бұрын
This will require the upcoming 50 series cards, right?
@spacebarwasd9782
@spacebarwasd9782 5 ай бұрын
Mediatek has come a long way... Now they're dominating the tv and mobile soc
@dqniel1755
@dqniel1755 5 ай бұрын
The original GSYNC modules were like 20nm (I believe) Altera FPGAs. They also used DDR3 and only supported DP 1.2a. Did the hardware really never change and they only did software updates over time to allow for things like DP 1.4? Cause if so... no wonder hardware GSYNC has a large cost penalty and requires active cooling. That's some seriously out-of-date hardware that can't be very efficient nor affordable (I'd imagine DDR3 and those old-ass 20nm chips aren't exactly mass produced these days?)
@plasma06
@plasma06 5 ай бұрын
Should see some exciting monitor changes at CES next year
@Cloud971
@Cloud971 5 ай бұрын
Good, as a French customer i can tell that these monitors with module from Nvidia are nearly impossible to buy in Europe. I guess that means it'll be more accesible to European people, we have to wait and see for the price though...
@123Suffering456
@123Suffering456 5 ай бұрын
Not really. Monitors with G-Sync hardware have never been common at all, that isn't a Europe-exclusive thing. I'm from EU as well and wanted a G-Sync monitor a few years back. Had no trouble finding one that fit my specs and buying it.
@EmblemParade
@EmblemParade 5 ай бұрын
I'm a happy FreeSync user (NVIDIA GPU with an LG OLED TV). What am I missing out? It seems that G-SYNC's advantages are very niche. What are the use cases that would benefit from an "upgrade" to a G-SYNC setup?
@40Sec
@40Sec 5 ай бұрын
Having a non-OLED monitor always benefits from an actual G-sync module. If you are just running a standard VRR monitor, you have to manually change the overdrive settings everytime you play something with a different framerate if you want to avoid blur and overshoot, and even then it's not ideal. With that said, it's not that it's a bad experience, and most people don't have the awareness of how overdrive influences their image, but when you do know what's going on, it's hard to ignore.
@AceStrife
@AceStrife 5 ай бұрын
10 year anniversary of the best monitor tech since CRT's were invented.
@michaelkreitzer1369
@michaelkreitzer1369 5 ай бұрын
I was kinda hoping to hear something about fixing VRR flicker on OLED. Until that's dealt with, VRR is DOA on OLED. I won't be purchasing another monitor until this issue is fixed with the new RTINGS test performed to prove it.
@awepizza
@awepizza 5 ай бұрын
Once this makes to oled panels then i'll be interested. Can't use anything else compared to it.
@djsnowpdx
@djsnowpdx 5 ай бұрын
This took a while to happen. Lee, my DWF display flickers on adaptive sink, and my previous display, the Samsung C H capital G 90 also flickered with adaptive sink enabled. Both have traditional scalars and Samsung panels. With this 242 results, I cannot help but mistrust, traditional scalars on Samsung panels. I feel that, in order to ensure that my next display supports adaptive sync properly, I will go for something G sink branded.
@Noksivs
@Noksivs 4 ай бұрын
Adaptive sink, is that something that comes with modern bathrooms?
@AutieTortie
@AutieTortie 5 ай бұрын
I am still waiting for the "Minotaurs on box" line of clothing 😂😂😂
@hiroshiganna9078
@hiroshiganna9078 5 ай бұрын
Would love to get a 480hz 1440p 27" oled 'glossy' with pulsar/ulmb2, this would be the greatest esport monitor
@soren5108
@soren5108 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video :) What is the probability that we see this Tec in 34" QLED and miniLED monitor later this year?
@sharpiemcsharp
@sharpiemcsharp 4 ай бұрын
Still rocking my Asus PG278Q (first Gsync monitor?) nearly 10 years later, no active cooling AFAIK.
@dani199_
@dani199_ 5 ай бұрын
Waiting for the Monitor Tests.
@justapleb7096
@justapleb7096 5 ай бұрын
I just want more devices with a physical g-sync chip so i can turn my monitor hz to 24hz. So i can watch movies/shows *truly* without any sort of judder.
@RealAnimeHours
@RealAnimeHours 5 ай бұрын
Finally. Though I'm still hard pressed to find a monitor to replace my Predator X35.
@Marco-cg7fb
@Marco-cg7fb 2 ай бұрын
But what about G-sync ultimate modules? isn't one of the bigger features better HDR performance with VRR?
@nikkmann149
@nikkmann149 5 ай бұрын
Ive got a theory this module is also to setup Pulsar working on oled in the future.
@selohcin
@selohcin 4 ай бұрын
OLEDs don't need it since their response times are over ten times as fast as even the best LED monitors.
@nikkmann149
@nikkmann149 4 ай бұрын
@@selohcin they can still benefit from black frame insertion for perceived motion blur
@wolfreon
@wolfreon 5 ай бұрын
Will it solve the VRR flicker in OLED models?
@dysnXO
@dysnXO 5 ай бұрын
wonder if they will release OLED 32inch 4k monitors with this new GSYNC technology
@DarthQueefious
@DarthQueefious 5 ай бұрын
Will be interested to see if it is as smooth as the current g-sync module. I have both the DW (gsync) and DWF (non gsync) and when it comes to g-sync/freesync/adaptive sync, the DW is generally smoother (on nvidia card at least)
@Yonisomjen
@Yonisomjen 5 ай бұрын
why do any 4k 240hz qd-oled monitors with g-sync model?
@cyclogenisis
@cyclogenisis 2 ай бұрын
Yes but will we still have oled flicker issues? I assume yes because its on the OLED side.
@astrea555
@astrea555 5 ай бұрын
Turned out to be one of the best thing Nvidia had released. Some monitors from the early Gsync era could be very easily hacked into doing fully unlocked BFI/Backlight Strobing at any framerates, especially at 60FPS, with very low strobe lenght making them look incredibly clear, much more so than most monitor today that still do not allow this feature at all! Not only that but the module apparently could mitigate the VRR flickering, and some gsync modules could even do BFI+VRR. So, I'm actually sad to see this.
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 5 ай бұрын
Honestly it's stupid of companies to not offer strobbing/bfi, bfi on OLED is so easy to implement compared to the fine tuning needed with IPS, yet only ASUS does it...
@rnf123
@rnf123 5 ай бұрын
60FPS is not clear... by definition.
@EJM07
@EJM07 5 ай бұрын
@@rnf123 60 hz *can* be perfectly clear in motion. Virtual reality headsets are proof of that.
@BOLOYOO
@BOLOYOO 5 ай бұрын
​@@houssamalucad753Strobbing hurt my eyes.
@DaKrawnik
@DaKrawnik 5 ай бұрын
12 ppl did that. Cool.
@Dr.D00p
@Dr.D00p 5 ай бұрын
Now they'll just come up with another price gouging feature to milk the Pc Gamers' never-ending supply of FOMO if the G-Sync well has run dry.
@AlpineTheHusky
@AlpineTheHusky 5 ай бұрын
Just like AMD cloning everything Nvidia and Intel is doing?
@Vipppala
@Vipppala 5 ай бұрын
like every other corporation ever
@AlpineTheHusky
@AlpineTheHusky 5 ай бұрын
@@Vipppala "How dare this company not spend tons of money to help other corps grow"
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 5 ай бұрын
Nvidia seems terrified of competition , not inspired by it.
@Im_Behind_You
@Im_Behind_You 5 ай бұрын
DLSS3
@Cassp0nk
@Cassp0nk 5 ай бұрын
Gwynn module meant my Alienware oled can’t be firmware updated by the user.
@ReXora25
@ReXora25 22 сағат бұрын
So ur telling me I could literally go buy myself a 40 series and my monitor would do really good with gsync compatible since it's more updated and on par to free sync?
@thehorsefromhorsinabout
@thehorsefromhorsinabout 5 ай бұрын
TBH with how bad the VRR flicker is on my $1100 qd-oled, something that was supposed to be the end all be all of monitors, all of my interest in new monitor technology has effectively evaporated.
@PcGamingForFun
@PcGamingForFun 5 ай бұрын
Best move ever. Everyone is a winner with this one
@GhostLebrob
@GhostLebrob 5 ай бұрын
whats the alienware monitor that was being shown in video?
@forestR1
@forestR1 4 ай бұрын
"G-Sync Compatible" the disclosure of "compatible" I feel has been hidden/absent in most cases of "g-sync compatible" monitors. Weather brands deliberately and maliciously "forget" to advertise the word "compatible", or innocently and ignorantly leave the word out, thinking it doesn't mean anything- probably both. But Nvidia are very clever, and I would be shocked if it wasn't by design.
@Prisky-
@Prisky- 5 ай бұрын
should i wait for an oled gsync module or pull the trigger on one with out in the market rn?
@turtis123
@turtis123 5 ай бұрын
Will existing monitors without the G-Sync module see a benefit from this in any way?
@hastesoldat
@hastesoldat 5 ай бұрын
No. This only applies to future monitors featuring the new scalers.
@Krushx0
@Krushx0 5 ай бұрын
In short no, In details still no, not the existing monitors, maybe if somebody want to compete with this module by improving with software or creating new modules for future monitors or update old, but solely relying on software will only get you so far.
@salvador4858
@salvador4858 5 ай бұрын
How can we know if a monitor has the old G-Sync module or the new one? Does the name change?
@photonboy999
@photonboy999 5 ай бұрын
Probably you'll have specific branding like "GSync Pular" that implies there's a new MediaTek GSync chip inside.
@Raivo_K
@Raivo_K 5 ай бұрын
We know for sure that any new monitors released from this point either have, or dont have the mediatek scalar. There no 3rd option with the module anymore. And as always you should read/watch reviews. I very much doubt there would be new monitors released with the same name anyway.
@IlGrandeRio
@IlGrandeRio 5 ай бұрын
AdaptiveSync and backlight strobing simoultaneously are already on some monitors like the Gigabyte M34wq
@Lego_51
@Lego_51 5 ай бұрын
Will the Module have any impact on GSync flicker on oled monitors?
@NINJA_INVESTORS
@NINJA_INVESTORS 5 ай бұрын
AMD forced them to do this!!! 👏 👏 👏
@dubby_ow
@dubby_ow 4 ай бұрын
G-Sync Compatible is good enough for me, but would be nice to have variable overdrive and VRR below 48Hz range, a game like Destiny 2 can choke my poor old hardware hard enough for FPS to drop that low in some scenarios
@haziqtheunique
@haziqtheunique 5 ай бұрын
... So, the monitors on the market with G-Sync Modules built-in will have their prices cut, right? Right??
@grospoulpe951
@grospoulpe951 5 ай бұрын
At last! 😅 Thanks for the video! 😊
@konchy
@konchy 5 ай бұрын
I'm currently using a BenQ EX240 monitor which allows VRR and backloght strobing at the same timr
@Saba-jr8yb
@Saba-jr8yb 5 ай бұрын
Curious if the AW3225QF will get support. It uses the MediaTek MT9810.
@livingCorpe420blaze
@livingCorpe420blaze 5 ай бұрын
Can you guys make a video on how annoying DSC display stream compression is, when tabbing out and in (games), is this ever gonna get fixed by NVIDIA or a solution (other than running games in borderless, big issue is games dont minimize to taskbar in borderless) deal breaker and annoying asf
@LEGOCAMARO
@LEGOCAMARO 5 ай бұрын
Monitors just recently peaking with high refresh rate Oleds now they have to add new feature.
@Hadgerz
@Hadgerz 4 ай бұрын
Will every single game I fire up still suffer from G-sync gamma flicker? 😒
@wahidtrynaheghugh260
@wahidtrynaheghugh260 5 ай бұрын
At least on my old vg259qm and my new 271 qrx, VRR is pointless. If you run the vg259qm at 280hz there’s no tearing ever. Gsync/VRR just makes it less smooth because of the lower response times with lowering refresh rate on lcd
@Heisen_burger-dude
@Heisen_burger-dude 5 ай бұрын
So what does that mean for just gsync compatible screens? Like lgc2?
@SpyderTracks
@SpyderTracks 5 ай бұрын
Gsync compatible just means nvidia signed freesync, so nothing would change as it doesn’t have a gsync module
@Heisen_burger-dude
@Heisen_burger-dude 5 ай бұрын
@@SpyderTracks it has low framerate compensation when compatible labeled
@SpyderTracks
@SpyderTracks 5 ай бұрын
@@Heisen_burger-dude freesync is software driven by a standard VRR controller. It only has low frame rate compensation window if it’s a crappy display (related to gaming) that’s not related to the controller, the controller can only address what it’s connecting to at a hardware level. This is a primary reason why you never buy a TV for gaming, they’re substandard at an actual gaming performance level. But it’s irrelevant anyway as it’s not a gsync monitor so isn’t affected by this.
@hastesoldat
@hastesoldat 5 ай бұрын
@@SpyderTracks Little nitpick: G-sync compatible is a certification for "AdaptiveSync". "FreeSync" is a brand from AMD for their VRR ecosystem. For example you could theoretically have a non freesync branded monitor that is certified "G-Sync compatible"
@SpyderTracks
@SpyderTracks 5 ай бұрын
@@hastesoldat well no, in some future land yes of course you could, but there are to date no gsync compatible monitors that aren’t freesync. But yes, if Intel came to the party and branded some monitors under their own VRR moniker, then those could become gsync compatible too if they reached the required bar. But word on the street is that intels days in the GPU space are done and battlemage is DOA. It’s not really a nitpick as highlighting something that doesn’t exist
@disclaimer4211
@disclaimer4211 4 ай бұрын
Damn if only Nvidia would work to remove the Highend expensive costs of their graphics cards too.
@alejandrorojas-q6q
@alejandrorojas-q6q Ай бұрын
What happens then with the OLEDs, they only come compatible with GSYNC and I don't see any with ublm2, why wait for new OLED monitors to come out?
@qlum
@qlum 5 ай бұрын
I really hope pulsar is not vendor locked to nvidia gpu's, after all asus solution did not required to talk to the gpu, and it can just hook into adaptive sync, but knowing NVIDIA I doubt it.
@mryellow6918
@mryellow6918 5 ай бұрын
Just got my hands on a lg 32gs95ue. Any chance on a general windows guide HDR / HDR terminology guide. Had a real pain trying to get netflix 4k working too with the need to download hevc and still not ending up working.
@demonwares
@demonwares 5 ай бұрын
You need hevc and plug the monitor using HDMI instead of display port.
@David_Crayford
@David_Crayford 5 ай бұрын
Aha. So this is where the monitor reviews went. That chair looks comfortable - I could use a new throne.
@napalmarsch
@napalmarsch 5 ай бұрын
is that an ROG SWIFT 360Hz PG259QNR in the video?
@stevenwest1494
@stevenwest1494 5 ай бұрын
I just can't trust Nvidia to be giving us anything for free or at a reduced price, when they're trying to command GPU makers to be exclusive to them so aggressively seeking a monopoly.
@GFClocked
@GFClocked 5 ай бұрын
i want oled pulsar. I have c1 with bfi and its insanely good, but being locked to 120 means i have to keep a lot of headroom in case i get a demanding scene. So often i could run maybe 200 fps avg but still only get 120fps min 1% low, having bfi+vrr would allow me to increase graphics and still get bfi benefits. Bfi is too good on oled and really unexplored on monitors as it is now.
@vulcan4d
@vulcan4d 5 ай бұрын
MediaTek was a joke of a semiconductor manufacturing company but they exploded with the demand and now have some capable hardware.
@heickelrrx
@heickelrrx 5 ай бұрын
I think the market simply produce less shit scaler, G-SYNC module was great back then, it wasn't perfect, but at least it drive today scaler to be good
@RavTokomi
@RavTokomi 5 ай бұрын
Any word when this makes it way to 4k monitors?
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