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Monster Ford 427 Top Oiler Engine Build and Dyno Session

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The Horsepower Monster

The Horsepower Monster

Күн бұрын

KT Engine Development builds a monster Ford 427 FE Top Oiler with an amazing 498 cubic inches in sleeper form and runs it on the engine dyno. The classic Ford FE was a winner in NASCAR and drag racing, especially as an SOHC "Cammer." The owner of this engine wanted it to appear totally stock, so nothing was changed on the interior, but lots of stroke pushes the displacement nearly another 75 cubic inches!
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@timr31908
@timr31908 Жыл бұрын
One of the best motors ever created
@johnbarker5009
@johnbarker5009 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of a strong FE is amazing, this thing sounds like it could drag a volcano out of the ground.
@BronsonOsborne
@BronsonOsborne 2 жыл бұрын
we drag race FE 80s tbird with a mostly stock FE 390 and a 66 fairlane with a FE 427 and a turbo check out my videos
@caterpillar6nz310
@caterpillar6nz310 Жыл бұрын
ford ❤❤❤
@MilesCobbett
@MilesCobbett 10 ай бұрын
It was a blast water skiing and joy riding in an 18 foot Hallett flat bottom drag racing boat. It had a V-Drive gearbox with 21 % overdrive. We would ski at 1900 rpm for some skiers and 3500 for others. We ran at Inboard Alley Colorado River area just below Parker Dam..fun times. 7100 RPM was a blast
@user-nj1qo7cg8k
@user-nj1qo7cg8k 2 ай бұрын
I love these old school engines, and the old schoolers building these engines! This one here is unreal!!these blocks were built heavy duty, and a very strong built bottom end! Oil supply was an issue on long term, but what a super engine!!
@andrewescoto7081
@andrewescoto7081 3 жыл бұрын
There’s about 75 horse left on the table just between a carb and intake swap. One of my favorite engine families at the track and grocery store and one of the best torque curves in Detroit.
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how far it would go with a tuned Holley EFI and a performance intake. Converting it to Fuel Injection and Elecronic Ignition would be beneficial in many ways since this engine went into a street car.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 2 жыл бұрын
Way more power! I can get this from a 410 Mercury built a bunch of them for Mustangs. 416 cubes at 7000 rpm’s.
@bubbaray8670
@bubbaray8670 4 жыл бұрын
I always have argued with people that a 427 Ford was even made . I have proved it to them time after time. I always wanted one of these. This is a beautiful work of art.
@jerryparks6123
@jerryparks6123 2 жыл бұрын
Actually 427 Fords they made different versions of them through the years, the top oiler, side oiler, and the sohc! King of all 427 Fords, plus the small block version . The FE series 427 is really 425 Cubic Inchs . CHRYSLER had the 426 Chevy, the 427 ,why didn't Ford leave it at 425 ? Food for Thought.
@jerryparks6123
@jerryparks6123 Жыл бұрын
SOME PPL don't have a Clue! Ford made 3 Versions of the 427 thru the Years, Including the SOHC /CAMMER! WHICH was Bad to the BONE! .
@jesseduke694
@jesseduke694 2 ай бұрын
​@jerryparks6123 Your right about those designs but not just 3. The high riser headed 427 had the top half of the engine in a league of its own. (Heads needed a intake to match). Also the tunnel port! I think somtimes we get lost in the amazement of the cammer, & rightfully so. However we shouldn't just over look the tunnel port 427s wich I believe there is no HP ratings on? However they ran every bit in step with Chryslers 426 hemi! The tunnel port heads had the big breathing ports like the hemi, but stayed with the wedge combustion chambers wich in some instances was a advantage for them! The early 427s started out with the low riser heads & and shortly after had high riser heads. High riser headed 427s got banned from nascar when the 426 hemis got banned. So Chrysler went to work to make the hemi legal. Ford created the tunnel port heads. Wich really flowed like the hemis! Just shorter than the high risers & still wedge combustion chambers! So many versions of the 427! The only differences in blocks was really just top oilers then side oilers. All the different head configurations used the same basic blocks if I understand it correctly.
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 3 жыл бұрын
This engines owner got exactly what he wanted. Probably an old guy like me not needing 600 + horsepower anymore! I'm sure he will enjoy it in his big ol '64 Galaxie (2 tons of fun).
@lordbruh5783
@lordbruh5783 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this engine for the pure fact that it was in the ford gt40 mk II . I ADORE that car
@saludahead
@saludahead 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to listen to a guy who knows his stuff! I remember the first time I pilled the cast iron intake manifold off a 332! That intake weighed more then both heads fully assembled!
@robertpolicastro1
@robertpolicastro1 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdner I think?
@motorhomemac
@motorhomemac 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@edwardspaccarelli5944
@edwardspaccarelli5944 Жыл бұрын
80 lbs. of cast iron.
@WS-gw5ms
@WS-gw5ms 5 жыл бұрын
Notice the age of these builders. Makes me wonder what secrets we lose with each old timer from the muscle car Era.
@daltonhayhurst8501
@daltonhayhurst8501 5 жыл бұрын
Wilson Solt none. Because they don’t ever listen to the new ones. 🤣
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын
That is very true. Try to do something they haven't done and there is a 100% chance of an argument. Further, they think that because they haven't done then no one else needs to do it either. See, if you have any imagination and capacity for critical thinking then you can come up with some great combos - you get excited, work all the details, check, re check then check again then go down the shop with your proposal for a new build and you get a blank wall followed by an agument, then get asked to leave. Yep know the feeling well. Practically no one has any imagination and when I hear all this crap about the young of today being usless I just about sick up! The young of today are getting huge horsepower from small engines, take huge risks with builds (which all of us learn from) and rightly stick it to old basterds when they say, "oh i just got 500hp out of my 427." when they're getting 1100hp out of a 3 litre engine at 10k rpm lol (bit of an exaggeration but you know what I mean). Look I can't stand turbo Jap engines myself but this isn't about what I like or don't like. It is about innovation, imagination and having a go. They're doing it and we have no right to put them down actually - even though they do that to us often enough. I have this idea of building a Mopar Gen2 Hemi based on an aluminum 4.5" bore low deck block (which are available) but with only the stock low deck stroke that would turn 7000-7500 rpm on the street and make a reasonable 550hp with around .600" lift on a solid lifter flat tappet camshaft. I gave up on that one. All I get is why, why, why why? you can't, you're an idiot, there's a reason no one has ever built this, what about this and that and that on and on and on and effing on into infinity. All I can say is they must be so flush with money that they can turn work away like this. That ship has sailed and I won't be building that motor, but I may buy a 572 crate Hemi instead but I still secretly yearn for big rpm Hemi with a close ratio 5sp manual tranny in an A body with a D60 rear end. I'd paint it and detail the engine bay and make the whole thing look factory right down to the nuts bolts and paint.
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 5 жыл бұрын
Some of us muscle car era oldtimers plan to be around another 80 - 100 years... and we're still LEARNING !!! www.motortrendondemand.com/detail/dyno-proven-50-hp-with-one-bolt-on-engine-masters-ep-1/0_aq9h0374 .
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL i think I've seen that one. They put a tunnel ram on and it develops bottom end torque as well picking up 50hp. Amen to the extra 150 years. It might actually happen within the next 5 or so years. I heard an already known compound is undergoing clinical trials. Hope so. I'm in no hurry to age at the usual rate lol.
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard, tell me how to make 305's go good. But before you do I have another (long winded sorry) story. The 350 story. I have an FJ40 Toyota Landcruiser that I just fitted a 350 to. Like the Hemi story I have had nothing but trouble. You get to a point in life where the children have left home, you don't owe any money and you revert to the age that you were when your 1st child was born, but now finally have a few $$s to indulge some passions. For my old Landcruiser I really wanted to build this: www.airflowresearch.com/412-hp-350-ci-afr-190cc/ The link above is to 350 built using a 400 Chevy block with a 327 crank and long rods. Check out the torque 'curve'. After 4 different machine shops I had to give up. I just can't deal with them. I get so annoyed the joy goes out of it. That's the effect they have on me. I'm a qualified mechanic and if I had the money I'd do an automotive machining apprenticeship at mature age and buy all the effing equipment secondhand and damn well build the engines I want myself instead of having to pay morons to build what they want rather than what I want. Anyhow, after giving up on the 350 that should've been (link above), I bought a brand new (green) roller cam 4 bolt Vortec short motor built in 2014. A mexico one. I found a place that would supply and build me some heads and supply some shaft mount roller rockers for a reasonable cost, but I specified I'll supply the springs and retainers. To up the cam profile I decided on 1.6 ratio arms as it's a baby roller in those things and I indulged and bought a Milodon single idler gear drive for roller cam motors. A total waste of money but it's my money to waste! I bought some cheap ($90) but excellent GMP LS beehive springs and some Comp retainers especially for the the Gen 1 heads. They are 90lbs on the seat. You probably know this but the big advantage of beehives is the low spring pressure and the resistence to oscillation is effected by the variable radius of the coils and an oval section in some parts of the coil. On top of that they have reduced mass because they don't require a damper spring wound in the opposite direction to change a conventional springs oscillation point. They are capable of 7000rpm at .550 lift and that low spring pressure is extra power in reduced engine pumping losses. Should be fine for a 5800rpm hybrid Vortec/gen 1 350. So 'ole mate machinist #5 is building the heads and puts the springs in the gauge and finds they are only 90lbs. I discussed with him in depth before I supplied them what the specs were. He was fine with it. Back to the story, he rings me tells me they're no good. I tell him to just fit them. He refuses. I tell him I'll come in. I go in and he's catastophizing about them. I point out to him that I'm into them for a bit of money and I want to go that way and that they're out of LS engines with 1.7 rocker ratio that turn 6500+ rpm on hydraulic lifters etc etc etc and I told you all this before I agreed you build my heads. He reluctantly agrees. A week later I get a phone call from another mechanic friend of mine - 'ole mate machinist #5 knows him because my friend's son did an automotive machining apprenticeship with him. My friend tells me, 'ole mate has just been on the phone talking to him about MY springs and to talk sense to me. I think ffs! My mechanic friend knows I'm no fool and he also understands the beehive advantage for street engines even better than me. I get angry and ring up #5 and tell him fit them or I'm not paying you. I'm the customer and you're to do what I ask. Of course he fitted them and the motor is amazing. It revs so cleanly through the range. It does have a heavy flywheel in a heavy truck so the motor doesn't rev up quickly as in a car being only 350 cubic inches an all, but there is 0 hint of harshness at any point. It is the smoothest 350 you could imagine with a very liquid torque delivery - and it revs up too. I'm very pleased with it even though it doesn't go but that isn't anything to do with ole mate, more Fitech vs Mallory offroad ignition and some unwanted electrical noise causing some as yet unresolved issues I'm too busy to deal with at the moment LOL. BTW a properly set up single idler Milodon gear drive in a 350 makes no sound. It is as quiet as a stock timing chain. Everybody is amazed it makes no sound.
@avgeek1930
@avgeek1930 3 жыл бұрын
FE's are awesome, key is the deep skirt block, also their exhaust note is second to none
@carlhess512
@carlhess512 4 жыл бұрын
My older brother has 4 of these engines, he has 3 or 4 Galaxy 500 XL‘s. 62 - 63-1/2 and his baby a triple black 64 with the duel 4’s 427 and 4 speed trans. It’s a gorgeous black knight of the galaxy Ford
@robertyoung7045
@robertyoung7045 5 жыл бұрын
The ones that raced these monsters back in the day and know their secrets are getting to be few and far between. One thing they failed to say is the 406 and the 427s were cast with a higher nickel content ehich made them damn near indestructible and almost bullet proof. Love FEs
@bluesky-ud9wg
@bluesky-ud9wg 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they were able to support about 750 horses then they had some problems.
@sandibaker7646
@sandibaker7646 2 жыл бұрын
Your "higher nickel content" is PURE B.S. -- nickel is only a tramp metal in Ford iron castings. Ford NEVER added nickel in production FE blocks - never-ever-never.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 2 жыл бұрын
They used chrome and phosphorus to the iron which is a compliment to grey iron, making it more modular. Adding the third rib in the main webbing is a great improvement and truly nodular main caps made the FE block to a value of 32.000 strength as opposed to GM irons 26,000 . A 3 main girdle or cross bolting them make them capable of Cammer TF 2500, 3500 hp, and 600 miles at WOT in NASCAR. The 352/390/410/428 blocks can take 1000 hp with a girdle or ProGram caps on 2 and 4 . They were way under appreciated because they cammed them way under their potential and restrictions in the heads. I have built some really strong beasts.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
@Jack Russelle Lewis Didn’t what? A gentleman who worked in the foundry told me that they added chrome, phosphorus and had a specific cooling rate in the 427 until they found that it wasn’t needed and planned to develop a 427CJ modeled after the hydraulic cam Cougar. Tasca came up with a cheaper route with the 428CJ which was just a PI with 427 LR heads with an iron MR intake. Nickel was pulled out as a trash metal as it is brittle and spalls the pour.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
They were indestructible in fact I want to turbocharge a 105 FT block to find the limit. I think it will be around 1000hp with a rising boost curve.
@Mike583
@Mike583 5 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine, back in mid 70's, had Red Coronetts speed shop in Somerset, Ky build a stroker kit for his 427 side oiler. It came out to 486 cubes. It had the side winder intake with a Holley 950 carb on med. riser heads. He put it in a '66 Cyclone, built C6 & 325 posi. That SOB would fly!!!
@localcrew
@localcrew 5 жыл бұрын
Robert M. Trolinder I had a ‘66 Cyclone! Loved it. Came with a 390 and C6 auto. The heads were the ones with like 14 or 16 holes for exhaust manifolds instead of the usual 8. Used funny exhaust manifolds cause of the tight clearance in the engine compartment. Was probably some cutting done to get a 427 in one!
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
A "Holley 950" in the "mid-70s". Yet another Fordtard "back in the day" story he can't even set in the right decade.
@boston7704
@boston7704 4 жыл бұрын
"Sleeper" and dual-quad 427 are not words that should be in the same sentence! :-) Looks like an awesome build.
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
"Sleepers" are a physical impossibility for Fordtards since they can't keep their mouths shut for 3 seconds about their "powerplants" in the presence of anyone they even suspect might actually give a shit and FEtards are by FAR the worst when it comes to making more "horsepower" with their flapping gums than the boat anchor FE under the hood could make even if it wasn't a "big-block" with "small-block" combustion chambers and about as likely to REALLY make "500 hp" as its owner is to actually race "heads up" when given the opportunity to put up or shut up at his favorite "bench race". Never been "bench racing"? Then you ain't a Fordtard. You're worse. And that takes some effort.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
I think they had the duty to build a 600 hp engine with 550 ft lbs. I have built a 394 ci 390 that makes that much.
@NeilLB7
@NeilLB7 Жыл бұрын
I’m 48 so I lived in an era where FE’s were still sold new albeit mostly in trucks. I spent a lot of time driving a F750 with a 391 HD truck version. But I sure wish I could walk into a dealer and buy a new plain jane Fairlane with one of these and a 4-speed. I suppose one day…someone else will wish they could walk into a dealer and buy a Civic with a 4-cylinder gas engine too. Time marches on.
@jerryhablitzel3333
@jerryhablitzel3333 5 жыл бұрын
That motor will be a riot in that big Ford. That effortless torque with 470 hp will do the intended deed.
@larrygall5831
@larrygall5831 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, big engines make heavy cars feel light.
@guyneault5054
@guyneault5054 5 жыл бұрын
@@larrygall5831 That Big Boy should be making 575+ easily. W.T.F.??
@mitchellferre1652
@mitchellferre1652 5 жыл бұрын
@@guyneault5054 I was thinking 600hp. My slightly warmed over 440 mopar makes 500hp with 9.5:1, iron heads and a flat tappet hydraulic cam on pump gas with a single Holley carb.
@guyneault5054
@guyneault5054 5 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellferre1652 Mitch, I just so happen to be at Bonneville right now Thought you mite appreciate that, being you Just posted. 3 days into the meet, and because of rain, no runs yet.
@mitchellferre1652
@mitchellferre1652 5 жыл бұрын
@@guyneault5054 good luck and have fun at Bonneville ! 👍
@lelandlewis7207
@lelandlewis7207 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched a dyno pull on a SB 427 Windsor stroker build. It put out just over 500HP and 530 lb-ft of torque with a small-runner intake and a 750 pumper. Saves a couple-of-hundred pounds of weight and slips in easier. But, the 427FE has the "wow factor" when you open the hood or say, "I have a 427", especially with dual-quads.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 2 жыл бұрын
When you get get some iron off there they weigh the same as a Windsor , it is amazing really. I still don’t know why they had all of the 351s and 400, the FE was the smoothest engine they made and a monster when built right! They are surprisingly lightweight because they are built for racing. An iron 427 with an aluminum intake and heads with 2x4s is halfway between an iron 302 and iron 351 W. And even with the Windsor 427 having an aluminum heads and intake they weigh the same. I want to see the FE continue to be produced. All of the price gouging with the FE being difficult to build is a lie. I built my first one at 12 years old in 1972. A 390 and it was a hoss!
@ChoneyNation
@ChoneyNation 5 жыл бұрын
There’s is so much more power potential in this engine
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 5 жыл бұрын
Lonestar Stang - not with Ford iron heads.
@randomologist77
@randomologist77 5 жыл бұрын
@Moon Pie Not sure what you mean by "unleash the hp" A cam change alone could give this setup 75hp. The cam is a modern style grind with high lift and low duration to improve torque at the cost of higher rpm horsepower. My stock (stock carbs, stock intake, stock heads, stock cam) 63 427 FE made 436hp / 458lb/ft with the dual points distributor with mid length headers without tuning. I had to go halfsies on the headers so they had something to run on the dyno that wouldn't fit and so the shop owners' daughter could get the headers that fit her 390 truck, haha.
@grandcrappy
@grandcrappy 3 жыл бұрын
It 8s really kool the John Kaase resurrected the the FE. Ha no change in prices, but for those with the means parts are available
@greekfrenchman4434
@greekfrenchman4434 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i dont see the point of not working the heads more. Even if someone wanted to go back to stock longblock, ported heads would do nothing but good things
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this performs similar to an off the shelf SBC 400" crate engine...
@cryipticcreep5586
@cryipticcreep5586 5 жыл бұрын
When I can afford a build...I would want these old master's doing the work....Hands Down some of the Best!
@craigsmith177
@craigsmith177 3 жыл бұрын
CRYIPTIC CREEP Iam with you as far as I would want an old timer working on my car hands down. These guy have forgotten more than I would ever know.
@cryipticcreep5586
@cryipticcreep5586 3 жыл бұрын
@@craigsmith177 Agreed Sir
@lordbruh5783
@lordbruh5783 3 жыл бұрын
That badboy was used in the gt40 in 66'
@jesse75
@jesse75 9 ай бұрын
It's not that hard of an engine to put together.
@cryipticcreep5586
@cryipticcreep5586 9 ай бұрын
@@jesse75 Then you Sir must have Talent. Keep Up the good work.
@alanhickey604
@alanhickey604 5 жыл бұрын
Well my 427 Low riser in my 36 Ford PU was all kinds of fun. In 73 it was one of the quickest in Walnut Creek,Ca. I still have the truck and still have the 427. 😎
@redbay8527
@redbay8527 5 жыл бұрын
You're a lucky man to have such a rare engine....you should post some pics of it.
@captjim007
@captjim007 4 жыл бұрын
In '67 my friend from Stevenson had a '66 Comet Cyclone with a fully built 427 and it ran 11.70 to 11.80 at 126 to 127mph at Baylands. It was yellow and I have seen the time slips. Did you know the Forsbergs? I worked with Dave.
@FESpecialties
@FESpecialties Ай бұрын
Do you remember a Springtime Yellow 67 390 GT Mustang Fastback on the WC Main Street cruise in say 1976?? That car was the start of FE Specialties!!
@Cobra427Veight
@Cobra427Veight 5 жыл бұрын
I spent a lot of time on a FE428 / 440 cu with same intake, its ford linkage was progressive , pain in the butt, looks like this one, both primary's are moving at the same time ,much better.
@beckywatt5048
@beckywatt5048 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day , the hot setup was crossing up a 427 and a 428 , you would come up with around 450+ cubes , and in a highboy they would push 35/38 in tires very well .BTW , that engine , due it's stroke , has got to suck so much air at an idle its got to be a challenge to tune it .
@slyane7320
@slyane7320 2 жыл бұрын
Thank Tasca Ford for that crossover you're referring to...the mixing of the FE parts is how Ford ended up with the 428 CJ motors in 1968. The 427 is a proven race mill,it owned Ferrari @ LeMans 4 years back to back to back to back! The 428 Cobra Jet is probably the best version of the FE for the street. The 390 FE can also be built for the street & is a slightly cheaper alternative to the 428,but is very strong on the street & strip. If you want to go top dog FE, the 427 SOHC is the baddest FE out there. It was 1 NASCAR rule away from production. Also the "Cleveland" family of engines is the 385 series,351C,429,& 460 .
@mescko
@mescko 7 ай бұрын
@@slyane7320 Not quite, the BB was used the first two years, the SB the second two following a rules change.
@SSGTA440
@SSGTA440 5 жыл бұрын
Good work there...I have built several "centre oiler" FE motors....on thing I do is to chamfer and open up the oil holes on the pump pad. Most FE engines have a 3/8 feed hole on the front housing that mounts the oil pump. I drill and open up the feed hole to 1/2 inch. I also open up the diagonal hole in the front of the block going up, just ensure good oil volume going in. As for the heads, some guys restrict the oil to the rockers by putting drilled allen plugs into the head rocker shaft holes..got to be careful as you don't want to deprive the springs of cooling oil.
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 5 жыл бұрын
All good advice!
@mikewarpula911
@mikewarpula911 2 жыл бұрын
Restrict oil flow to the rockers,they get way to much.its better used elsewhere.
@jesse75
@jesse75 9 ай бұрын
​@@mikewarpula911a Holley jet fits perfectly in the oil feed hole. That's what I do.
@rickh633
@rickh633 5 жыл бұрын
I see a real fe builder!!!! so few of us left, note the Cleveland main bearings.
@frankcrawford416
@frankcrawford416 5 жыл бұрын
These Ford 427 engines we're for all out track racing, not so much for drag. I would love to have a 427 galaxie of the era. Nice work on that motor fellas!
@olderthanyoucali8512
@olderthanyoucali8512 5 жыл бұрын
You must have heard of ford thunderbolts or mercury comet or that Ohio George one of the most successful gasser competitors ever used ford motors, sohc but f.e. blocks, so I don't agree with you.
@davidh1249
@davidh1249 5 жыл бұрын
@@olderthanyoucali8512 ,Yeah those Thunderbolts weren't feared at all,huh?"Not so much for drag"LOL
@randomologist77
@randomologist77 5 жыл бұрын
The Ford 427 was designed for drag racing first. NASCAR came afterwards.
@randycoursey7230
@randycoursey7230 4 жыл бұрын
The narrator states this Top Oiler was built for drag racing. Drag Racing!
@reidbridges1774
@reidbridges1774 4 жыл бұрын
I took my stroked top oiler and made it a side oiler, its something we did back in the day, you drill the side cap bolts through feed an external oil line from filter housing straight to main caps, you put a restrictor in the top oiler oil gallery to mains, this way it actually oils some from top and sides, and I always use full grooved main bearings for 360 oilings. Never had a one fail. So don't pass up those top oiler 427 it's an easy fix for better oiling at max horsepower.
@xmo552
@xmo552 2 жыл бұрын
Is that what I've seen on the older Y-blocks?
@Combat556
@Combat556 8 ай бұрын
Back in 1963 my girlfriend and I double dated with her best friend, and the best friends boyfriend was driving a new 63 Galaxy 427 4 speed car. The ride in the backseat of that 427 Galaxy was fun as he banged off the gears…leaving the rest to your imagination. 😮
@brianmaynard7320
@brianmaynard7320 5 жыл бұрын
Love those FE motors with their side skirts!!
@kevind3185
@kevind3185 2 жыл бұрын
The top oiler blocks can be converted to side oiler. A few plugs to redirect oil and a external oil line to put oil to the crank 1st.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 2 жыл бұрын
I have done it. I have done it on 390s, 410. Piece of cake. Really you only need two cross bolt caps, at 2 and 4 mains the blocks are really strong .
@johnwells7931
@johnwells7931 5 жыл бұрын
It's cool to hear the fire get lit in that awesome machine !!
@richardc7721
@richardc7721 5 жыл бұрын
The Shelby built 427 side oiler Was actually a 494 and up turning out 525 HP and 550 tq as a starting point, we putting them in the CSX 4000 Cobra weighing at around 2000 pounds. Very quick car
@strattuner
@strattuner 5 жыл бұрын
check the blocks 427-426 hemi bottoms up,they look identical,shows if you can't lick em,join em,this engine is very powerful, built one 1969 for buddy who had more money than brains,he built it 41 days before going into the service,we finished it,he said he would blow it up before going in,he burned up two sets of rubber,the engine was waitin on him when mustered out,427's are durable
@HowardJrFord
@HowardJrFord 5 жыл бұрын
The standard big block Mopar, and the Ford FE engines both came out in 1958, and both had this deep skirted bottom end, which makes the bottom end extremely rugged. The HEMI used the same design because the block is basically the same as the standard big block Mopar B and RB engines, with the main difference being the head bolt pattern.
@kurtpoblenz2741
@kurtpoblenz2741 5 жыл бұрын
The mopar didn't use the spacer though. That would make me nervous at high rpm.
@strattuner
@strattuner 5 жыл бұрын
its all moot now,the carburetor wars were over in the late 80's,everyone is on the power adder formula,its broken blocks and heads and rods for ever,well my valuable blocks and heads are for pressurizing and the spacer you're talking about,i've built thousands of engine in 47 years only spacer I ever saw in either of the mountain motors was fords a bellhousing spacer,good luck ET IS THE NAME OF THE GAME,FORGET THE GUY NEXT TO YA,ITS THE CLOCK YOU'RE BEATING
@jimnelson7346
@jimnelson7346 4 жыл бұрын
In the mid 1980s I purchased a factory 1963 Ford Galaxy 500 "Plane Jane" 427 side oiler finished at the Dearborn /Detroit Tubular Co. That 63 Big Detroit Sled was a factory sleeper.. I would put Corvette,Nova's, Camaro, Chevelle, Pontiac, Plymouth, Dodge owners into tears up & down Gratiot Ave. Telegraph Rd. Even at the well known private road in River Rouge, Michigan called Industrial Drive.. Simply nicknamed "IndustrialDragway" The I.D They may have got my Big Ol Gal off the start, but after first gear, she'd wind up & leave Em in my rear view mirror.. F.E Big Block.. Good Times & Memories From Detroit, Michigan
@markmundwiller5842
@markmundwiller5842 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry the side oiler wasn't made in 1963
@terrybartak7811
@terrybartak7811 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I love the old fe 427s. But my World sr head 351w tops 500 hp.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 10 ай бұрын
It wont make all the torque esp down low that the big block does
@bubblelvr1
@bubblelvr1 5 жыл бұрын
Wow impressive tourque flat high line from the top plus 470 hp to boot like wow and you can still make more out of it crazy must get me one fe r. Code ford and I’m a Chevy lover
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
We don't claim you.
@jeffcolt9185
@jeffcolt9185 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chevy guy but this is my favorite Ford engine I think it's the best one built in the one that made the most horsepower
@billymack4606
@billymack4606 5 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of a ford F.E
@tomdavis8757
@tomdavis8757 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the OHC version of this engine. Can still find rebuildable (not OHC) engines in old chris craft boats.
@benjaminsmith7228
@benjaminsmith7228 4 жыл бұрын
The constellation models were known to carry two up to two 427 side oilers. Not bad right?
@motorhomemac
@motorhomemac 3 жыл бұрын
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@GorillaCookies
@GorillaCookies 4 жыл бұрын
There is a whole bunch of power left on the table with this FE. The induction , cam & heads are limiting potential without question. There is easily another 60-70 hp in a cam change alone. I bought a 1966 Stevens flat bottom V-drive boat for $800 on Craigslist in 2017. Guy found it in a out building of a house he bought and had no info on it. Turned out to have a 427 side oiler in it . looked to have sat for at least 25 years. And I'll be damned if I didnt get it fired up after a oil change , carb swap and fresh gas. Pulled the engine and then the heads a while later and it was stock bore with no cylinder wear or ridge. Hull was dry rotted so its now in my shop waiting on a new home to arrive.
@mescko
@mescko 7 ай бұрын
I'd call that a steal...
@stevedolyniuk3825
@stevedolyniuk3825 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think this was a very true picture of what can be done with the 427 FE Block. I have seen 427's put out as much as 600 HP , with stock displacement.
@handgunner1911
@handgunner1911 Жыл бұрын
these motors are insane one of the best ever made in my opinion thx for this video
@JC-gw3yo
@JC-gw3yo 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I love the skill of these men...
@johnwells7931
@johnwells7931 5 жыл бұрын
That is the symbol of American gusto and horse power at it's finest !!!!
@h.snider2628
@h.snider2628 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh Those were the GOOD OLD DAYS WHEN THEY MADE. THE GOOD STUFF !
@brennonharmon9548
@brennonharmon9548 5 жыл бұрын
Lol they just dropped thousands of dollars in this piece and made a little more than a modern 5.0. Good stuff my ass, not even 1 hp per cubic inch.
@fordnut4914
@fordnut4914 4 жыл бұрын
@@brennonharmon9548 some things you'll never understand
@dennisrobinson8008
@dennisrobinson8008 Жыл бұрын
The sounds are invigorating
@michaelmcclure8673
@michaelmcclure8673 5 жыл бұрын
Thats why I have 2 FE engines down in the shed, sleeper motors.
@lorenzomaximo1818
@lorenzomaximo1818 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah now even peg leg 352 cubic inch blocks can be made into killer Fe Motors.
@Jdres123
@Jdres123 5 жыл бұрын
Sleeping in the shed.
@HotRod8625
@HotRod8625 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jdres123 never knew you were a car person let alone into Fords. Excellent!
@radioguy1620
@radioguy1620 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks , Now I know our country is safe.
@emmettcunninghamjr.5207
@emmettcunninghamjr.5207 5 жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING BUILD...I WOULD HAVE CHOSE A "CRANE" CAMSHAFT...BUT YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS. THE "CAMMER" STILL KING OF THE FE series FORD BLOCKS! THANK YOU. GREAT VID.
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the Cammer is a sexy beast!
@ednorton1853
@ednorton1853 5 жыл бұрын
No Emmett, The Cammer as you may know was not available to the public. You had to be factory backed to acquire one. That and the 427 High Riser which was the king of all FE series motors. If You dig deep enough you will find out that the Cammer was nothing really to get excited about. Although a very well designed top end it did not make the kind of power the High Riser did. Years ago speed vision did a special and got all the best big block motors ever released from the factories. Every thing from a stage 3 ram air Buick to the 421 SD from Pontiac. They were done to exact factory specs. Top honors went to the 426 Hemi. In 1970 made it 720hp at the crank, 2nd was the Ford 427 High Riser at 680hp
@emmettcunninghamjr.5207
@emmettcunninghamjr.5207 5 жыл бұрын
UNDERSTOOD, MR. Ed Norton. GREAT FEEDBACK INFO ON A GREAT FOMOCO ENGINE. THE FE's and 385 series ARE JUST AWESOME TO ME. THANKS!
@sandibaker7646
@sandibaker7646 2 жыл бұрын
@@ednorton1853 - two versions of the SOHC 427 were available from any Ford dealer until January, 1972 -- C6AE-6007-359J and C6AE-6007-363S. The dealer cost was $2281.17. ANYONE with the money could purchase the crated engines. Some Ford parts departments had them on display for sale.
@thesupacoop4002
@thesupacoop4002 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, which shows that the stock 427 FE heads and dual 4 bbl intake were very well designed, and were able to handle an extra 75 cubes and what ever that cam was able to pull through also. The torque and HP graphs show that. Amazing !!
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
That "RV cam"? Yeah. That's about how its specced and the "power numbers" just prove its another boat anchor FE. Not nearly enough chamber for the cubes. Chamber volume is the real engine "displacement" and the largest FE chambers are 350 Chevyish in volume BEFORE idiot "engine builders" start "milling heads" and "zero-decking blocks" and "adding compression" by making the chambers smaller yet. And that's why "500 hp" at some ridiculous Fordtard-impressing "redline" of 7000+ rpm is a "big number" from an FE even when 1/4 of it at least is "free horsepower" from zero accessories, headers that fit zero Ford "platforms", "creative" dyno calibration and "correction factors", 70-degree intake air, cold fuel, endless "tuning" and asinine air-fuel ratios that on the "street and strip" will alternately "foul plugs" and "burn plugs" as they fluctuate from stupid rich to suicidally lean. But what does anyone with a clue expect from "state of the art" engineering circa 1956 Ford Motor Company? One HP per cubic inch in a real wedge-head hydraulic-cam 10:1 small-block with an iron dual-plane intake and exhaust manifolds? Oops. I keep forgetting how "dominant" Ford was during the "horsepower wars" and I end up spoiling Fordtard fantasies with SBC and BBC facts. EARLY "1st generation" SBC and BBC facts, no less. "Small-journal" 283-HP 283s, 425-HP dual-quad 409s etc. After 1962 shit just starts getting out of hand. 350 SAE-HP 327s, 435 SAE-HP 427s, 370 SAE-HP 350S... I always get a kick out of those "370 HP" 10:1 solid-cam dual-plane single-quad iron-manifold LT-1s. I'm pretty sure Chevy was just "protecting" the rep of the venerable 396 with its highest but relatively "mild" sub-1 HP per cube 375 HP rating from an engine that with basic "blueprinting" and the "allowable modification" of what I tend to think was a "cam swap" to an L88 427 bumpstick but is still a mystery, a "college dropout" named Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins managed to get "around 540" horsepower out of running 10.50s in a 3250+ lb. 4-speed Super Stock Camaro. But its also "convenient" that Chevy if only accidentally still managed to protect Fordtard fantasies of "big power" from Fucking Edsels and that "375 HP" that was the "high water mark" for those "big-blocks" with small-block "lungs" by not "overrating" what was and still is a VERY "mild" 350 Chevy. Knock off one "point" of compression, slide in a hydraulic cam like Chevy did in '71 and you still get 330 SAE-HP. Amazing what matching chamber volume to displacement and flipping the bird to "flow" in an engine that needs hundreds of cubic feet per minute of "flow" per port to fill and empty 42ish cubic inches of cylinder with fuel and air concentrated into dozens of cubic centimeters of chamber volume only once every two crank revolutions will accomplish vs. idiotically "porting and polishing" head "ports" that can't and won't "flow" any more air than previously unless you "port and polish" the "ports" in the intake manifold, exhaust manifolds/headers etc etc etc and all on heads you idiotically "shrink" the chambers on simultaneously during your "build". Of course even "Chevy guys" can be idiots and especially the ones that think "Vortec heads" really make "good power" on 350-406" SBCs because they "flow" so much better than "traditional" high-performance SBC heads like "camel-hump" 1.92/1.50 327 heads and "fuelie camel-hump" 2.02/1.60 327 heads and even "turbo" angle-plug "LT-1" 350 heads with "mild cams" and "pump-gas friendly" CRs. Seeing as how there isn't a single SBC Chevy head any "bigger" or "smaller" at the actual "port" openings "out of the box" and its really that "Vortec" aka TRUCK heads have "big" chambers in the 72-74 cc range like ALL 350 TRUCK heads have always been and that are a good 5-15 ccs "bigger" than the typical "high performance" SBC head after being "rebuilt" one or more times with material milled off the "deck" and hardened seats and/or "big" valves installed both of which replace "empty space" with "solid metal" which USUALLY gets installed on a "blueprinted" block some idiot "engine builder" has or has had "zero-decked" for maximum "quench" with flat-top pistons and "high performance" thin-to-win head gaskets which all reduce "chamber volume" even further. And all in the idiotic pursuit of "more compression" like that doesn't automatically and drastically reduce "pumping losses" while reducing chamber volume every f'ing time. But at least a "Chevy guy" can slap on a set of brand-new iron Vortecs for $500 during a "build" and not throw away the same $500 "rebuilding" a set of small-chamber high-peformance 4"-bore SBC heads for a "stroker" 383 or "de-stroker" 377 or even a "boat anchor" 400 SBC build. Build a good "boat anchor" 406 SBC with a set of Vortecs and 9.5ish:1 compression and a good stout LT-1ish cam but hydraulic-roller and dual-planed with a properly "tuned" so-called "QuadraJunk" carb AND a "stock" properly "tuned" GM HEI and stick it in anything 2-door and 2wd "Chevy" from '62ish on in front of a 4-speed, 'Glide or TH350/400 with a very mild "stall" and keep it under 4500 lbs with a high-3s/low-4s rear gear and you will make Fordtards "race" EACH OTHER trying to get the fuck off the "street or strip" before they hear "You're up" in their FE-powered fantasy wagons after they see the first loser get "blinkered" at half-track. Know what getting "blinkered" is? It's when the guy in the "suicide lane" has enough lengths on you before the "finish line" to go ahead and signal his "lane change" and pull into your lane in front of you. Kinda hard to pull off on the "strip" even If you somehow manage to get a "heads up" race and most "kids" millenial age and Fordtard children of any age wouldn't "get it" if it happened to them on the strip the maybe 1% of 1% of the time a millenial "car guy" or Fordtard that claims to love racing "heads up" and "on the strip" actually shows up and lines up and goes heads up and is in a position to get blinkered and does so. And of course its likely that he won't "get it" but will talk shit about that "sandbagger" in the left lane that almost "sideswiped" him trying to make a "right turn from the left lane" WAY before "they" even got to the "finish line" and blah blah blah... But "on the street" if even a Fordtard gets "blinkered" he'll eventually "get it" during the "merge" and typically he'll "miss his turn" and just keep right on "racing" home to the garage "heads up and eyes forward" and probably on the verge of tears having just had his FE fantasies ruined by a little old Mouse running a QuadraJunk, HEI, low compression, small valves, a mild cam, dual-plane intake and IRON TRUCK HEADS. FORDTARDS INCESSANTLY BITCH ABOUT AND RUN FROM "LS" BOWTIES WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN GO "HEADS UP" WITH AN "LT" AND THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT.
@chhh8057
@chhh8057 3 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 Funny, looks like a little ole 4.6 4v is faster than your pos LS. Chevy "We have a new engine!" What'd you do to it? "Nothing it's the same pos pushrod engine just bigger and supercharged!"
@sandibaker7646
@sandibaker7646 2 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 - we see that you are a legend-in-your-own-mind - and certainly also considered one by people who know you.
@brucerosati9434
@brucerosati9434 2 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 Are you done? Feel better? I hope so.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 You are going to shovel out that huge shit you just dumped right? My 390 at .020 over. makes 503 hp and 500 ft lbs na/ home ported on pump gas. That’s fun. Poor guy, you should really eat more fiber carrying that much shit around can cause sepsis. I do hope you feel better and your asshole heals.
@williamrage6225
@williamrage6225 5 жыл бұрын
He's really going to town on that torque wrench at 7:16 it's making my OCD tingle.
@johndillinger8482
@johndillinger8482 5 жыл бұрын
470hp is no joke.good candidate for a pure stocker.
@josephtaverna1287
@josephtaverna1287 5 жыл бұрын
john dillinger yo John Mr Dillinger was the greatest American bank robber of all time and the smartest I might add and he had a love for Fords how could you go wrong you have a great day my friend take care
@TheShamiester
@TheShamiester 5 жыл бұрын
god damn that torque that must be a fun ride
@TexasScout
@TexasScout 5 жыл бұрын
Those rods look like you could pull a freight train with them.
@Thomas63r2
@Thomas63r2 2 жыл бұрын
Some commentors are disappointed with the power or that the owner went with stock untouched heads when he could have hidden some modern aluminum heads ported to flow. What these critics are missing is that this FE likely is making 500 torque as low as 2,700/2,800 rpm, which means it can easily run between a 3.00:1 to a 3.50:1 differential gear and be loads of fun on the street. I suspect that is exactly what the owner wanted for his Galaxie. Even with very little throttle opening this car will really move out with that big flat table of torque.
@Mr.mopar71
@Mr.mopar71 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to watch this carefully. There's spark jumping all over the stand during the pull. That ain't right!
@Jsf445
@Jsf445 11 ай бұрын
I noticed that too. Does it develop static electricity on the dyno or something? Is something seriously dicked up?
@craigsmith177
@craigsmith177 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are tops.
@sandyshoremann7524
@sandyshoremann7524 5 жыл бұрын
That appears to be a lot of cam and valvetrain voodoo for those heads. Likely run the same top end torque peak and make gains off the bottom with mild 218/225 deg and under 0.500" total lift. Its a roller with aggressive ramps. - Thank for the Fun and memories, I Owned a Blue 428 FORD Fairlane 500 Fastback Cobrajet with a toploader 4 gear. bought it used for $750 bucks in 1976. Imagine it was only 7 years old then :) - Sandy
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
Cam and valvetrain voodoo? That's barely an RV cam for that many "cubes". Of course since those boat anchor FEs have CHAMBERS SIZED LIKE "LOW-PERFORMANCE" CHEVY 350 BEFORE DUMBASS "ENGINE BUILDERS" START "SHRINKING" THEM BY "DECKING" THE HEADS AND BLOCK AND PUTTING IN "BIG VALVES" AND THIN HEAD GASKETS FOR "HIGH COMPRESSION" ITS NEVER SURPRISING TO ANYBODY BUT FORDTARD TOOLS THAT "BIG POWER" FROM A "BIG-BLOCK" FE IS ALWAYS RELATIVE TO "BIG POWER" FROM A FORD SMALL-BLOCK. THE "MAGIC NUMBER" IS ALWAYS "500 HP" AS IF THAT DYNO IS TELLING THEM A DAMNED THING RUNNING THE PIECE OF SHIT "NAKED" AND WITH "CREATIVE" CALIBRATION OF THE DYNO "CORRECTION FACTORS" MAKING AT LEAST 10% OF THE "POWER" EVERY TIME AN FE MAKES "500 HP" AND THE LACK OF ACCESSORIES, HEADERS THAT HAVE A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL OF FITTING ON ANY FE IN ANY FORD FACTORY-STOCK "CHASSIS", STONE-COLD GAS, HOT OIL, A DYNO THAT IS 3/4 WORN OUT AND PROBABLY "RATED" FOR "500 HP" AT MOST AND THE EVER-PRESENT "VIDEO EDITING" PRIOR TO UPLOAD MAKING UP AT LEAST ANOTHER 5-10% OF THAT "BIG POWER". FORD HAD AND STILL HAS THE MOST "GENEROUS" FACTORY "POWER NUMBERS" EVER AND EVEN THE LYING FUCKS AT FORD "CORPORATE" DIDN'T HAVE THE STONES TO HANG MORE THAN "375 HP" ON A "HI-PO" 390 AND "401 HP" (THEY HAD A DYNO "DIAL" WITH 1-HP "INCREMENTS" IN '61-'62 - MORE FORD "FACTS" THAT ONLY FORDTARDS BELIEVE, LOL) ON A 427 AND SURE AS SHIT MORE CUBES DON'T HELP THOSE BOAT ANCHORS BECAUSE "FE" ENGINES GOT AS BIG AS 540+ IN "L-SERIES" TRUCKS AND THOSE PIECES OF SHIT WILL GET CIRCLES RUN AROUND THEM BY A 366 CHEVY OR 392 INTERNATIONAL AND I KNOW THAT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. THE SOONER YOU FORDTARDS GIVE UP YOUR FANTASIES AND START DEALING WITH REALITY AND JUST ACCEPT THOSE FORD-EDSEL BOAT ANCHORS WERE, ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE LIGHT TRUCK AND FAMILY TRUCKSTER STATION WAGON ENGINES AND AIN'T GOT COMBUSTION CHAMBERS BIGGER THAN A 305 CHEVY THE BETTER OFF YOU AND YOUR "BUDGETS" WILL BE. IF THEY WERE WORTH A FUCK AT 360-PLUS CUBES THERE WOULDN'T BE "335" AND "385" FORD ENGINES. THEY WERE SHIT IN 1956 AND THEY HAVEN'T IMPROVED WITH AGE AND THEIR "RARITY" WITH A FACTORY 4-BARREL SHOWS HOW WELL THEY "COMPETED" WITH "CHEVY" OR EVEN FUCKING "DODGE". A 413 OR 426 WEDGE WILL SPANK AN FE'S ASS SO HARD IT ISN'T FUNNY AND A 396 CHEVY JUST FUCKING EMBARASSES THEM WITH A HYDRAULIC CAM, DUAL-PLANE INTAKE, IRON EXHAUST MANIFOLDS AND ENOUGH INCHES OF MANIFOLD VACUUM TO ACTUALLY MAKE A BRAKE BOOSTER FUNCTION. WANT "BIG POWER" FROM AN FE? "BUILD" A NEW DEFINITION OF "BIG POWER" OR "ENGINEER" A SET OF HEADS WITH WHAT ARE KNOWN IN THE REAL BIG-BLOCK WORLD AS "OPEN COMBUSTION CHAMBERS". START AROUND 100-110 CC. DUMBASS.
@drtb69
@drtb69 2 жыл бұрын
The third version 427 is a SOHC used in the GT40 Ford was way ahead of the times. Lots of details in this FE series used in todays LS engines.
@makattak3550
@makattak3550 Жыл бұрын
Except, unless you are set up financially to rebuild, say an LS1, throw em away after use. Sort of like butt wrap.
@aldonelson5757
@aldonelson5757 Жыл бұрын
Ford never ran the SOCH at Le Man's. Ran the high riser at 500hp
@greasyhitchball
@greasyhitchball Жыл бұрын
Not true. No SOHC in a GT 40 only 427 FE
@luetner
@luetner 5 жыл бұрын
The comments are coming from the belly button guys. The FE was built for racing from the start, the block has good bore spacing, the heads/manifold for several; different combinations, low riser, mid riser, high riser, tunnel port and then cammer. It won La Mans 1,2, 3. It raced in Indie. Cross bolted mains, oil to the crank, it was a racing engine that did not need special modifications.
@MasterChief-sl9ro
@MasterChief-sl9ro 5 жыл бұрын
Side locking mains are still the strongest I ever seen for a production engine. Something Ford still produces today..Still not sure why they didn't just install some after market heads. You can always take them off..Yet still use pump gas 92. I still think they could have got some better numbers. If they played with the timing..
@RJMay3
@RJMay3 5 жыл бұрын
352???🤔
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC 5 жыл бұрын
I hated that intake design when I rebuilt the 360 FE V8 in my $500 73 F100 back in '95 (first time doing engine work). One thing about the FE V8s, they were tough. I initially pulled the heads on mine because the straight duals were leaving two black oily circles on my apartment wall every morning. Turned out every singe compression ring was broken..even thought it still ran fine. If I had to do it over again, I would throw out the trash emissions intake that caused mixture issues. Wow that engine sounded good with straight duals.
@thomasclerke4725
@thomasclerke4725 2 жыл бұрын
The ford 427 with the Lemans Crank and rods would turn 9600 rpm. Stock rods and crank 7600 rpm. This build is streetable but there is much more potential and that's for sure. But they are rare, I wouldn't want to scatter it. It really needs to be put in a 66 Fairlane with a four speed and a nodular nine inch axle.
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! 498 cubes? Man, I bet you can open the hood and watch the pistons go up and down thru the block wall. LOL I built two side-oilers back in the day....shoulda kept them.
@turbo32coupe
@turbo32coupe 5 жыл бұрын
I have a stroker 427 (452) built 15 yrs ago with the same cam and Edelbrock heads and intake, made 550 hp and 600 ft lbs. at 6100 rpm. This engine is being strangled by the heads and intake.
@alexgolovchenko3791
@alexgolovchenko3791 Жыл бұрын
That was really cool and very interesting. Your video was informative. I know small block Chevy pretty well but I'm unfamiliar with the old school big block Ford. Talk about gobs of torque! That was impressive output. 👍
@dangoldbach6570
@dangoldbach6570 5 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is a torque curve! THIS would be fun to drive!!
@Liam40
@Liam40 4 жыл бұрын
Around 4500RPM the heads started choking it out. Some good heads, hell, even a port and polish, would have done it wonders. It's a shame too. Lots of bling in the bottom, but it just gets choked right out in the top
@robertsnowden4729
@robertsnowden4729 11 ай бұрын
So wrong LS 7 ports are identical to FE heads look closely
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 10 ай бұрын
@@robertsnowden4729 port, bowl design etc isnt even close
@robertlloyd7167
@robertlloyd7167 5 жыл бұрын
Love the 427's! Great video, guys!
@mikecorleone6797
@mikecorleone6797 5 жыл бұрын
I have 2 427 engines I’ll be posting on ebay for sale probably next week if the rain ever stops...
@scottireland7344
@scottireland7344 5 жыл бұрын
How much n what are they
@nickefgen9219
@nickefgen9219 4 жыл бұрын
OHH I want one of those engines
@ckelley63
@ckelley63 5 жыл бұрын
Just imagine what a good set of heads would have done for that motor.
@BBQ-n-Pigskin
@BBQ-n-Pigskin 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. However, when did anyone consider a 427 with dual quads a sleeper?
@giantpune
@giantpune 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the car. Some of those 427 cars were pigs. 16+ second quarter miles.
@josephtaverna1287
@josephtaverna1287 5 жыл бұрын
the 427 one of the greatest Motors ever made Ford first on race day fast on race day and last but certainly not least ferocious on race day no damn junk Chevrolet
@EASTSIDE-313
@EASTSIDE-313 5 жыл бұрын
Fix or repair daily Found on road dead Fucked over rebuilt dodge Driver returned on foot
@josephtaverna1287
@josephtaverna1287 5 жыл бұрын
@@EASTSIDE-313 Southside Ford first on race day fast on race day inside number 7 and last but not least ferocious on race day pal no damn two-bit and junk Chevrolet will leave the Dodge guys for another day but for now East 13 it's the blue oval all the way
@EASTSIDE-313
@EASTSIDE-313 5 жыл бұрын
What's up with all the bitch ass mustang pussys putting CHEVYS under the hood when they want to go fast LMAO they finally got smart that's what it is, that blue oval aint nothing but a wore out pussy hole bitch
@Mike583
@Mike583 5 жыл бұрын
@@EASTSIDE-313 oh yeah? Who won the most races & the championship in NASCAR? Ford. Your probably too young to remember when Ford's dominated PS in NHRA. Yes that was back when Glidden, RIP was still racing. He had the ONLY PS car to retire undefeated, never lost a single round the entire season!!! Ford funny cars were Ford powered & winning in John Force,& other's cars until Ford decided to pull out of drag racing & devote all to NASCAR!!! It takes more money to get the performance out of their engines compared to Chevy, but if your diehard Ford man,it's worth every penny!!!
@petepependowski8329
@petepependowski8329 5 жыл бұрын
I love this especially the bondage buggy im smarter than you and this is better than that stuff. Hey you know who builds the best? Your machinist, the factory builds passenger cars. I thought this was cool
@izzyplusplusplus1004
@izzyplusplusplus1004 5 жыл бұрын
Your voice over and footage is fantastic.
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrisjohnson7264
@chrisjohnson7264 5 жыл бұрын
I second this!
@Dogleg1957
@Dogleg1957 5 жыл бұрын
Last time I saw one of these motors was at the La Brea Tar Pits. It was right next to some of the old dinosaurs that have fallen into the into the pit along with that old Henry motor. I guess someone magnet fishing pulled one up. He said he finds them down around the 2000 BC mark all the time. And good condition because of the tar
@redram5150
@redram5150 5 жыл бұрын
6:56 as my dad would say about his 64 R Code Galaxie convertible, “You could fit a pack of cigarettes down the throat of the intake runners.”
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 5 жыл бұрын
Well they could have gotten more power out this big cubic inch engine, but as long as the customer is happy. Who cares! My mild 496 made 565hp & 600tq all under 6 grand. On 9.1:1 CR and 088 heads...its more than enough for my street '68 Impala👍
@cobracharmer6178
@cobracharmer6178 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Samuels ; I didn't know you could stroke a Ford 427 to 496ci's?
@edwinbeck456
@edwinbeck456 5 жыл бұрын
@@cobracharmer6178 Brian is talking about a Chevrolet big block 496
@cobracharmer6178
@cobracharmer6178 5 жыл бұрын
@@edwinbeck456 ; Thanks! I think you can get a 454 from the Ford 427?
@caratcranker5874
@caratcranker5874 5 жыл бұрын
You said it. Building engines is about being PAID. They did what the customer wanted, and there is PLENTY of great street power and torque here, PLENTY. Like seeing a 10 out of 10 nude blonde covered in sandwich wrap, you wanna see more, but there is more than enough to jerk off over....
@sergiobatista8636
@sergiobatista8636 5 жыл бұрын
A big block chevy cylinder head is much better the F.E. parts
@fordnut4914
@fordnut4914 5 жыл бұрын
I always liked the 360 ford or 390. They were I think the most underrated ford big block motors.
@rmo4222
@rmo4222 5 жыл бұрын
360s were truck engines, only the 352HP and the 390HP's were considered high performance in factory trim. Yes, they were good for family cars and trucks.
@paulnewkirk7351
@paulnewkirk7351 5 жыл бұрын
I put a352 4 barrel intake on my 73 360 with a 600 cm carb and it ran crazy quick. What I liked most was I went from 13 mph to 18 after getting rid of factory 2 barrel.
@cliffordpurk18
@cliffordpurk18 5 жыл бұрын
There has to be more potential in this motor than that. I just watched a 406 SBC stroker make 553 crank hp and 498 ft lbs. Built right this motor should be good for 650 to 700 at the crank.
@HI-RISER
@HI-RISER 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, what's the difference between a top oiler and a center oiler?
@jrpumper
@jrpumper 5 жыл бұрын
I sure would have liked to see what kinda power it would have made with a set of the new trick flow heads that are out now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@waynegouin939
@waynegouin939 5 жыл бұрын
Just what i need! For the stang.
@danielbrealey2924
@danielbrealey2924 5 жыл бұрын
Cool motor! I would have at least cleaned up the heads and done a nice blend and some trick multi angle valve seats- none of that would take away from the stock appearence and wouldn't have hurt it if taken back to stock. Still, cool bit of gear though. Just would have been nice to see at least 1hp pet cube or more. A 13:1 comp, E85 chugging one with a bigger cam and ported heads would have been interesting
@sandyshoremann7524
@sandyshoremann7524 5 жыл бұрын
You see tha A/F readout on the console at 9:12? Must of been some Shmirnoff in the mix :) - Sandy
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
Ever seen a "single-angle valve seat"? In any engine? Oh wait. I'm asking a Fordtard "engine builder" technical questions about engines in general and they're all "specialists". And fucking idiots.
@chhh8057
@chhh8057 3 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 stay mad bowtie boy
@sandibaker7646
@sandibaker7646 2 жыл бұрын
@@chhh8057 - he is a legend in his own mind.
@ladamyre1
@ladamyre1 5 жыл бұрын
Put that in a 3200 pound '66-67 Fairlane with a 3.55 rear and a top loader close ratio 4 speed (with good tires of course) and you'll win street races all day long. That'll be a ten-second car with all that torque.
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 5 жыл бұрын
Lucky to get high 11's... with a 4.56 rear...
@ladamyre1
@ladamyre1 5 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL With a 4.56 you're probably right. But if he keeps the weight down to 3200 and runs a 3.55 rear, he'll make high tens in 3rd gear. I knew a guy with a 428 Fred Jones built SCJ: Edlebrock dual-plane, 3.55 gear, Top Loader CR 4 speed, Hooker long tube headers running out straight pipes in a '67 Fairlane and he did 10.7's in 3rd gear. Damn thing outran me in my Suzuki 750 2 stroke when I had got the jump on him on Hwy19 coming out of Howey. I had the speedo pegged about 10 mph past the 135 maximum and put on a few rpm past that, must've been doing 160, and he motored past me about 10 mph faster, almost blew me off the road. Pushing that billboard of a front end to boot. But I digress... Back to this 427, he'll run high 11's with a 4.11 running an automatic with a stock torque convertor. I knew a guy that ran a wheelstanding Chevy van using a junkyard stock AT and a 454 that had over 500 foot pounds going for it. When you get that kind of high torque it can make a stock TC act like a 3000 stall racing convertor made for a 350 ft/lb small block. On a small block you can use that 4.56 because you're looking to get 7000 rpm to make up for that poor torque curve on an engine tuned to idle at 2000 rpm. You ARE a small block fan, correct?
@ladamyre1
@ladamyre1 5 жыл бұрын
@Richard Skipper Low tens probably with 400 pounds less weight.
@MastersOfMask
@MastersOfMask 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting to see the cam on the head. I love those pushrods engines, the sound they make and the reliability they have are superior to other styles. I am glad that chevy and chrysler still used them today. Ford took a ride on the OHC Van Wagon. I hope they get off soon in the near future.
@phillight352
@phillight352 4 жыл бұрын
I would loved to had Holman moody motor from the day they ground their own cams even had a hemi.
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like u need to put oil restricters in the head where the rockers are fed and you won't have the vc leal also save the bottem end .Simple fix with a 5/16 screw cut off and ground a little on both sides . just drop them in the oil feed to the rocker shafts and they will rest on the head gasket oil hole . Use a magnet when you remove the head to. remove them them .
@jesse75
@jesse75 9 ай бұрын
Holley jet works better.
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 9 ай бұрын
I bet you never tried the way I talked about ? It WORKS and it's an easy fix .
@jesse75
@jesse75 9 ай бұрын
@@edge2sword186 using Holley jet is adjustable. I can accurately control how much is going to the rocker shaft. But if the screw job works for you, cool. I use a screw to run down the jet and pull it out of the oil feed.
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 9 ай бұрын
@@jesse75 That's a Holman Moody fix so they knew what they needed to do the job .
@jesse75
@jesse75 9 ай бұрын
@@edge2sword186 that's who I learned it from. Preaching to the choir.
@baddonkey6876
@baddonkey6876 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of torque dosen't suprise me, with the extra 1/2 inch of stroke harnessing more energy from the combustion stroke
@thehandlesticks66
@thehandlesticks66 5 жыл бұрын
So many people in these comments have no fucking clue how much of a beast that motor would be in a car. That's enough torque to get into some serious shit lol. Heads are a mod that can be done at any time.
@olderthanyoucali8512
@olderthanyoucali8512 5 жыл бұрын
Handle sticks 66, Some of us making comments do know. Our shop race car was invited to the super nationals in the mid sixties, invitation only of the best competitors by NHRA, one of our cars was featured in the movie" Heart like a wheel, and one of our engines is at Don Garlits museum in a gasser, we've ben racing since the early 60's. Is that enough for you.
@fmerkl
@fmerkl Жыл бұрын
I think there missing something as my as my '67 427 MR with the factory solid cam 306/306 .510 lift with a single 4bbl puts 410 to the rear tires and 570 on 1 kit and has done it for 40 years !! and i've owned the car since '73
@John1Brady
@John1Brady 4 жыл бұрын
Does he have the stock cast iron exhaust manifolds "headers"? Would love to see them tested vs the long tubes
@jimnelson7346
@jimnelson7346 4 жыл бұрын
Circa 1988 I purchased a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500 Notched Back or Post Top.. (Not A Fastback) Factory delete, radio, windshield wipers , heater.. Built by Dearborn Tubular Company in Detroit, Michigan.. 427 Side Oiler, duel quad medium riser intake. Fiberglass door skins, trunk lid, fenders, & hood. Lightweight front & rear bumpers.. Factory delete side mouldings .. Kelsey Hays factory rims , no hubcaps .. Original owner.. I paid $7000 in late 1980s .. I knew what I had & was humbled to take that owl girl over.. White knuckled down the street & roads.. I made many Camaro, Vette, Firebird, Olds, Chrysler, Dodge owners cry on Drag Strip & Street... Scariest & Fastest car I ever owned.
@carissasuchocki6828
@carissasuchocki6828 5 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the Sparks jumping from the bottom of the engine to the frame?
@MrADVANCEDTEK
@MrADVANCEDTEK 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was to but if you watch it in slow motion it looks like a wire with a flat shiny side dangling. Possibly some type of sensor wire with a metal lead like a contact surface temp sensor. I'm still not totally convinced there's not arcing because of the puff of smoke or steam that seems to be coming off the end of it. It even looped around something with a trail of smoke looping also.
@TheAmerican1963
@TheAmerican1963 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing the cross bolts do not distort the crank journals....... :-)
@lbh002
@lbh002 5 жыл бұрын
It sure seemed to be puking a lot of fluid, but sounded great!
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. Yes, it was smoking a lot on the dyno in the shot. I probably should have said something about it, but we had just pulled the valve covers to check the lash on the valves and some oil had puddled just above the headers. That smoke was the oil burning off. Thanks!
@mcmc8496
@mcmc8496 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorsepowerMonster That's called ambiance! Add the fragrance of some 116 to the oil and you could sell it as a candle. I'd buy some for those long soaks in the bathtub. I already have one in my shop that's the aroma of Castor infused 2 stroke fuel from my Dirt bike days and instantly takes me back to my KX500'S which I should go start now....
@stevebell1324
@stevebell1324 5 жыл бұрын
I am a Chevy man but I like all vintage old school muscle cars. I have 427 chevy stock rods, pistons, home ported square ports made 650 at 7000
@fanghicheck
@fanghicheck 5 жыл бұрын
WOW that is a real TORQUE MONSTER ,
@redram5150
@redram5150 5 жыл бұрын
Only concern I have is the crank being starved for lubrication. The side oil 427’s exist because top oilers give priority to the cam bearings and lead to crank bearing failures. One of the reasons 406 FE engines are difficult to find
@sandibaker7646
@sandibaker7646 2 жыл бұрын
- cap walk caused FE crank bearing failures - not the top-oiler system.
@redram5150
@redram5150 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandibaker7646 my experience rebuilding FE engines says different
@BobbyOfEarth
@BobbyOfEarth 5 жыл бұрын
Considering the big cubic inches, the crossing point of hp. over torque is all wrong ..there's something else limiting this engines true potential. ..even with stock heads, I'm thinking limited plenum volume. With the telemetry available of a modern dyno, I wish they'd offer more details ..
@Mikeyyyy_L
@Mikeyyyy_L 5 жыл бұрын
It crossed at 5200 where all engines do...
@JohnComeOnMan
@JohnComeOnMan 5 жыл бұрын
Head choice killed the output.
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 5 жыл бұрын
You are definitely right, but the owner wanted to keep the stock heads--didn't even want any port work done--so what can you do?
@JohnComeOnMan
@JohnComeOnMan 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorsepowerMonster I get it. Just sad to see that bottom end potential go to waste.
@madmod
@madmod 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnComeOnMan How do you figure this is going to waste?
@JohnComeOnMan
@JohnComeOnMan 5 жыл бұрын
@@madmod By going to waste I mean leaving a lot of potential on the table by choking it. I'm sure the owner will enjoy it just fine as is.
@eaglewi
@eaglewi 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorsepowerMonster he could have left the heads alone and kept them and ported another set if he was keen on returning it to stock
@nickefgen9219
@nickefgen9219 4 жыл бұрын
Love those engines
@vankk7356
@vankk7356 4 жыл бұрын
savage sound... what an engine..
@joecucch8261
@joecucch8261 5 жыл бұрын
Considering that the 427 ford motor was easily capable of 700 plus horsepower in stock bore and stroke configuration the numbers here are a mild disappointment.
@rustycrustymakesstuff6528
@rustycrustymakesstuff6528 5 жыл бұрын
joe cucch I feel you on ghat. Lol but I get 13:1 compression vs. 10:1 compression. Detuned for the street. Hard to run a 700 hp 427 on the street regularly. A car that cost $8.50 a gallon to fill up with race gas and probably only gets about 6 to 7 mpg wouldn’t be driven as much.
@joecucch8261
@joecucch8261 5 жыл бұрын
@Rusty Crusty CJ7; If I had a 427 ford motor the last place I'd be thinking of running it would be on the street but thats just me LOL !!! If you want a reliable street motor for a ford just go with a modified 351 Windsor. They can make great power. or a 460 if you want big inches.
@rustycrustymakesstuff6528
@rustycrustymakesstuff6528 5 жыл бұрын
joe cucch I’m with you but to each their own I guess. That’s just the logic behind this build I’m guessing. He called it a sleeper. As a ford guy myself, a 427 is never a sleeper even stock. Lol
@joecucch8261
@joecucch8261 5 жыл бұрын
@ Richard Skipper; I tend to agree with you there. Plus their is a lot of old 351 blocks to be had at a fair price. Give them a good set of heads and cam and depending on what you want to run, a set of forged pistons and you have real fine street machine.
@Wanous-hv7zo
@Wanous-hv7zo 5 жыл бұрын
It's a junk Ford engine what can you say
@johnstark5324
@johnstark5324 5 жыл бұрын
Screw driver for a drift? You SHOULD use a brass rod for placing the cross bolt shims!!!!!
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