Monster High and Greek Mythology

[@bwabbystrabewwy2528]

Man, Monster High is one of those franchises where I can look at it and go "Thank you for not mascaraing my culture" Somehow entire franchises that are specifically centered around Greek Mythology manage to Americanize it so much is makes me want to cry :')

[@leomcshizzlepjocastdeserve1631]

Percy jackson: 😅 i try not to

[@bwabbystrabewwy2528]

@@leomcshizzlepjocastdeserve1631 The thing with PJ is that Rick Riordon made it clear from the get-go that he didn't invent Greek mythology and that certain things he portrayed weren't accurate. There is an in-universe explanation as to why it's so American. Greek-Myth media such as Lore Olympus have no explanation other than the artist themselves being American

[@leomcshizzlepjocastdeserve1631]

@@bwabbystrabewwy2528 no i know I love percy jackson im saying that at least rick does his research

[@connordoesexist1807]

@@leomcshizzlepjocastdeserve1631 I remember Riordan had to come up with an explanation for why children of Athena existed since she was a virgin. he did do research in Greek myths, but not the modern world because it certainly does not take 20 minutes to travel from Long Island to any borough or smth like that by non-supernatural means.

[@leomcshizzlepjocastdeserve1631]

@@connordoesexist1807 they traveled via magic cars and a regular train and buses

[@flora1496]

I'm still waiting *Mythological High* to see C.A. Cupid reappearing again in a school more for her, and maybe watching all those mythological students with a new design different from Monster High, but also different from Ever After High ! (I would really love to see what C.A. Cupid would looks like in that universe more for her !)

[@grekoy]

If you're interested in a school full of Greek gods, then try looking at God's School here.

[@flora1496]

@@grekoy I know but I want to see the continuation of Monster High and Ever After High, by Mattel so... God's School is interesting, but there is not C.A Cupid !

[@rachelthornton4442]

That would be awesome! You could do characters from different world mythologies interacting (Greek, Norse, Celtic etc.) Plus you could have some other “myth” characters in MH interact with it, like Widowna, Deuce, Viperina, Kiyomi and and Jinafire.

[@connordoesexist1807]

Y'know I wanted something more inclusive. Like a Deity High. There's a God's School in YT, which is Greek gods only. But Deuce and Viperine are children of Medusa and Stheno respectively, who are sisters. There's also a third sister, Euryale, and I have yet to see a child of hers. And an ambiguous name like Deity High will include Chinese myths and gods, Celtic, Nordic, Egyptian, Indian, Jewish, etc. Like, imagine a child of Jesus Christ, Noah, Isaac, Chang'e and Houyin, Weaver Girl and Cowherd, Osiris, Loki, Hel, Ganesha, Aditi etc. Bro, we have Jinafire, child of the Chinese dragon. What about the other zodiac animals? Chinese Tiger? Rat? Rooster? Pig? I even have an OC (no design just made up lol) who is a child of Hades and Persephone (I name them Necrokore, Necro means death and kore means ideal [female] youth in greek) who is the embodiment of life in day and death in night, which accords to their appearance and powers too.

[@flora1496]

@@rachelthornton4442 I would love to see some Special Episodes/movies about the meeting of the students from Greek Mythology and students from other Mythologies, it would be awesome !

[@LiaThePanda2020]

It’s funny because in Roman Myth, Eros is the equivalent of Cupid so it’s ironic his daughter would be named that. In Roman, he is the son of Venus and Mars (also known as Aphrodite and Ares)

[@liabstrait8306]

I was gonna said that!! I used to have old Latin/roman and Greek class in hs... Since her name is c.a cupid I always thought she was the daughter of cupid but weird story, she was adopted... she looks like she was just brought here *poof*

[@connordoesexist1807]

@@liabstrait8306 In my mind, I still headcanon Cupid to be the child of Eros and Psyche bc it fits with both MH (Eros, monster aspect) and EAH (Psyche, mortal princess aspect).

[@Thunor93]

11:50, she could be a demigoddess, Poseidon often did sleep with many Nereids and Oceanids, so she could be half goddess half Nereid or half Oceanid, still a sea nymph either way. Then again she could just be a goddess and is the daughter of Poseidon and Amphitrite.

[@Widowmaker-o3h]

real

[@intothevoid1996]

The character River Styxx is also majorly inspired by greek myth!

[@connordoesexist1807]

One day i hope for an ambiguous show like Deity High. It'll include mythology and god/goddesses from almost every culture. Like, not only Greek myths. Roman, Nordic, Egyptian, Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Celtic, etc. And even religious stuff. Myths and religion are like, friends.

[@evanderzufarsetiawan2511]

That will be cool but i hope they do proper research and they need understood the context why the deity action is like that

[@rachelamber3227]

Omg i love Greek mythology and ancient texts from the Mediterranean world! 😩 now I’m majoring in classics and a mh collector. I’m so glad some characters are inspired by those characters

[@PrincessOfTheWholeUniverse]

Okay, so that story on Arachne, I only heard a somewhat altered version of it. Where Arachne makes the weaving and Athena just turns her into a spider then and there. But hearing that other part 😳 It’s really making me doubt Athena’s wisdom

[@connordoesexist1807]

That's the thing with Greek gods. They do not like mortals undermining gods or putting themselves more than gods. The version I heard of Archne was that she was being a bitch and says that her weaving is better than Athena's, well in a entitled mockery way, so Athena took offense to that.

[@belleboy1711]

Yea all greek gods are kinda petty

[@PrincessOfTheWholeUniverse]

@@belleboy1711 agreed

[@Angela-jb8ot]

Thats because the only story we have an Arachne is all ROMAN. Every source we have on Arachne was written by OVID a Roman writer who at the time hated the Greek gods because of the merge between Roman Gods so if anything… its not Athena but yet Minerva

[@evanderzufarsetiawan2511]

Well here's the thinf that myth is written by roman poet ovid. Greek mythology is always associated with the gods causing harm to human while that's true to certain extent mythology is always been problematic and there's context of that

[@Mariya_500]

someone made a theory about CA Cupid being the daughter of Hades and Persephone

[@Mariya_500]

note, i dont watch monster high, but i am a greek mythology fan, heh

[@hufflepuff5831]

There was another gorgon, but she is a fan character. Her name was Melissa and she was the twin sister to Duece. She has a pet phoenix named Athena.

[@toetotipthatsabart5048]

That’s a fan character.

[@Mariya_500]

oh

[@connordoesexist1807]

Fan character. The actual, third sister to Medusa (Deuce) and Stheno (Viperine) is Euryale.

[@hufflepuff5831]

I know it’s a fan character because it was never in the movies or shows. I just thought it was funny because of the pet phoenix’s name.

[@hufflepuff5831]

And I know about Medusa’s story and her family. I love Greek mythology.

[@rue...whenwasthis]

Now this is how you combine 2 great things to create a masterpiece

[@viaisagirlkisser]

It’s also established in River Styxx’s diary that Charon, the Greek ferryman of the dead, is her uncle!

[@CharaViolet]

I know the popular headcanon is "bone", but maybe Cupid's a "heart" elemental, haha

[@connordoesexist1807]

ooo there's also River Styxx! Daughter of the Grim Reaper. Styxx is well, Styx. River Styx in Greek myths. River Styx is a river where Charon leads the dead across.

[@Mythic4410]

It’s also the river of oaths, and can make you invulnerable.

[@VizzmyPop]

​@@Mythic4410also she's a goddess...

[@adrianhuq]

Awesome job, this is very well researched!

[@kingdomorange2]

Thank you so much!

[@Mr._Milou]

Great listen, I really like this video of yours. Congrats on the amazing work :)

[@kingdomorange2]

Thank you so much!

[@horrorchild666]

I wish we can SEE Melody Carver someday….😔

[@HYAC1NTHUS]

Monster High was one of my favorite shows growing up and I also love studying mythology too

[@Queenhaylihill]

I think maybe Deuce is fond of Perseus which is part of why he named his rat after him. Plus it was to freak his mom out

[@Mythic4410]

Isn’t Perseus the one who beheads Medusa…?

[@thegayghost872]

Posea looking the way she does isn't that strange when you consider that Pan and Triton are both Greek gods who are part animal for no reason. Greek god genetics are just weird.

[@connordoesexist1807]

Don't get me started on a horse being a literal child as a result of Demeter and Poseidon.

[@ogarfinho827]

There´s too Zory Weatherbolt, daughter of Zeus. This character was made for Tori, by a Make a Wish act

[@Billy-maximoff-97]

I love Greek myth and monster high so it’s so nice to see this video cause I also love your channel it’s three of my favorite things in one video

[@ultimatebishoujo29]

This is pretty freaking awesome!!!

[@kingwolf3044]

I prefer the version of Arachne that was actually on good terms with Athena. It’s more in character for the goddess. She turned that version into a spider to help her hide from Zeus.

[@Mythic4410]

What about Medusa then…? She turned her into the hideous monster and the helped Perseus kill her by offering her shield.

[@kingwolf3044]

True. I’m also not a big fan of the cursed Medusa origin story. Poseidon assaulted a loyal and trusted priestess of Athena and Medusa gets blamed? Athena is the goddess of wisdom. She knows Poseidon would have his way with a pretty mortal with or without her consent. She would know Medusa wouldn’t betray her. She would go after Poseidon not Medusa. And she does in one version of the myth. She gave Medusa power to protect herself from the unwanted attention from men. Also there’s the version where she’s just born a gorgon.

[@Angela-jb8ot]

@@kingwolf3044 that cuz that version was written by a ROMAN WRITER and the story is Roman. The version where she was SA by poseidon (which is actually Neptune) is Roman because the person who wrote it was a Roman writer named Ovid. The version for Greek Mythology was she was born a gorgon by a sea monster named Ceto. And again, Roman’s hated Greek gods during the merge with Roman and Greek gods

[@Angela-jb8ot]

@@kingwolf3044 and im the Roman version where Minerva (Athena) gave the “curse to protect Medusa from other men” is complete false and actually really so funny of people to actually think💀 Athena didnt do it cuz shes some “feminist Queen” or sm shit she did it as punishment because she knew she couldnt punish poseidon, hes the earth shaker, 1/3 of the big three brothers. If their was a feminist goddess it would he Artemis

[@addn0aur525]

My list of greek monster high characters: Heath (g3) Manny Iris Deuce Avea Wydowna River styxx Cupid Posea Casta & spelldon Zori weatherbolt Madison fear Vyperine Harper Simon clops Pearl & perry Gilda

[@heidimeiyi]

this is so interesting, great video!

[@kingdomorange2]

Thank you!

[@cellinemartins]

I legit thought Gilda was a griffon?? Kinda surprised she's actually a harpy

[@prideprime5767]

Yes our mythology can be very confusing

[@preggy_i.t]

Is no one gonna comment on how they keep mispronouncing 'cyclopes' expect for literally *one* time?

[@lanadelreysalways]

I remember working on Odyssey at school. I was like 'Circé slayy lol

[@thediobrandolina4004]

The way Heath is now the son of Hades in the reboot

[@Mythic4410]

What…?

[@thediobrandolina4004]

@@Mythic4410 yeah they revealed some of the characters bios for the show and he’s the son of Hades now

[@skurvay3429]

To Tell ya the Truth, In Greek Mythology the most common of all the Centaurs was the *Hippocentaur* (Horse Centaur), but they had many variations of Centaurs in Greek Mythology, like the *Ipotane* (like a Hippocentaur but Smaller & with only Two Legs instead of Four), or the *Onocentaur* (a Donkey Centaur), or the *Pterocentaur* (a Centaur with Wings like a Pegasus), or the *Ichthyocentaur* (a Hippocamp-Centaur/A Mer-Horse Centaur), and That's just the Horse-like Centaurs featured in Greek Mythology Alone, and apparently the Monster High crew didn't do enough research or they would have realized that Avea Trotter is basically a Pterocentaur & not merely a Harpy/Centaur Hybrid, also if Neighthan Rot really was a hybrid of a Zombie & a Unicorn(don't even want to know how That happened), then he would more likely have resembled a Greek Ipotane, or a Philippines Mythological *Tikbalang* (basically the Horse version of a Minotaur, Human Torso & Arms with Hands, but Horse Head, Tail & Legs with Hooves), or even something like South/Central American Folklore entity known as the *Sihuanaba/Siguanaba* (stories vary based on locations but it's mostly depicted as a figure who resembles a Human Woman from the Neck Down, but has a Horse's Head or a Human Skull, sometimes a Horse's Skull), though I doubt he would have ended up like the Catalan/Eastern Spain Mythological *Muladona/Donamula* (a Mule with a Human Head), either way he would still have a Unicorn Horn, interestingly enough the Philippines also had a Hippocentaur-like creature called the *Anggity* , though sometimes it's said to have a Unicorn Horn.

[@JudgmentalAli]

I love both! Well, I love Greek mythology and Mattel. Not specifically Monster High.

[@tatsudragneel4761]

Nymphs are natural goddess, they aren't mutually exclusive. So Posea Reef would be the nymph daughter of Poseidon and a goddess of sea plants.

[@kingdomorange2]

I thought nymphs just lived a really long time, but weren't immortal like gods are.

[@tatsudragneel4761]

@@kingdomorange2 Yes generally the nymphs are minor deities tied to natural elements, so they aren't all immortal like most of the bigger gods. Like for example if the tree a tree nymph was tied to was chopped down that nymph would probably die. It's just basically multiple tiers of deities. There's the Primordial gods, the Titan gods, the Olympian gods, and various other groups of minor gods like the nymphs. The Greeks personified literally every body of water, tree, mountain, etc. as some spirit. The term "god" is very loose and covers every spirit that has been worship at some point like the nymphs.

[@antonialange949]

Loved this video!

[@kingdomorange2]

Thank you!!

[@AngelOfMusic2]

I have never heard of Cyclops or Delphi pronounced like that, interesting

[@kingdomorange2]

Thats what google told me lol

[@sophialuevano3642]

Same with Hercules

[@antonialange949]

There is a madison beer monster high character????

[@NoName-dx1no]

Yeah Madison Beer sung one of the monster high theme songs and she got the doll as a gift apparently she gave it away or something tho

[@NoName-dx1no]

Isn’t there a mermaid dude character on a wheelchair too or did I made that up in my head?

[@kingdomorange2]

Yes, Finnegan Wake

[@klemontyme]

i had the green Frightmaire when i was younger

[@hehehhegg2089]

In what episode does Circe appear ? I’ve been looking for it everywhere .. is it deleted or something ?

[@kingdomorange2]

They actually did delete it just look under monster high casta vote

[@nicki_mustaine]

The pronunciation of cyclopes *shudders*

[@jovic_sawyer]

And now Heath Burns is kinda son of Hades...

[@bittebitteorca]

it’s rumored that cupid is a bone elemental, if that helps

[@attiliasarpong2305]

I hope this gets a part 2 because I would love to hear about azure lycans

[@ultimatebishoujo29]

I hope so too

[@kingdomorange2]

Hmmmm I guess I could do a part two. I'm just not sure off the top of my head what characters are from other mythologies.

[@leledallas317]

Omg I seen clips from Class of titans!

[@kingdomorange2]

Yesss honey!

[@BritneyArmy101]

My English Teacher I had for 8th Grade and She was Greek

[@Clarisse-ye3mw]

You have to look at mlp it has a lot of greek mythology reference

[@0agatha]

id like to add the character romulus being originated from romulus and remus !!

[@BH94112]

I am surprise Medusa should have turns the evil Poseidon god in to stone and then break that stone killing him.

[@sanjayjones6532]

Why?

[@michaeltrinta7207]

Just to clear something up: all nymphs are considered goddesses, they're minor deities but still have their godhood, so Posea can be both a nymph and a goddess of the sea, not necessarily one or the other

[@tyra_ktk7288]

Hi I'm a 13 year old that is interested in Greek mythology

[@FashionRunwayyy]

Siren ands Mermaid are different species in greek mythology. But mermaids are not only from greek mythology, but from different mythologies around the world.

[@wowjennawow]

my monkey brain is just thinking oo oo aa aa ilios overwatch

[@Trianglewithaface12]

"Sharp fangs large wings snakes for hair and can turn anyone into stone with their eyes" Captions:Sharp fangs large wings snakes for hair and can turn anyone into stone with their *Gays*

[@ArtByDesign80]

1:42 Perseus cut off Medusa’s head and killed her in the myths. Not sure how that works if she is still alive.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kingdomorange2]

I think her eyes still were able to stone people in some weird twisted way.

[@blockyassassin9704]

Why did you pick kingdom orange ? Just a question

[@kingdomorange2]

I loved kingdoms and oranges lol. I picked the name when I was 12 I believe

[@blockyassassin9704]

@@kingdomorange2 oh lol

[@NoName-dx1no]

Apparently in the new reboot’s cartoon Heath might get written to be Hade’s son when he was just a fire elemental before 🧍🏻‍♀️

[@GoddessAthena4736]

Have you ever heard of gods school, it’s on KZbin under the same name

[@gachauwugirl8439]

im sorry but where do you watch all of theses i can't find any clips that you put in this video

[@grekoy]

Have you tried checking out the monster high and everafter high channel?

[@rhaine_spartace9990]

Maddison Fear HAHAH

[@annadanielsson8072]

What about river styxx

[@Bowser14456]

I mean I've seen and read percy jackson so 😂

[@sophiesheppard6719]

Sorry… Madison beer has a character in monster high?

[@ashxoxo9403]

she sings one of their songs

[@BH94112]

Killed Athena the awful goddess

[@crazyafewnotchsstudios7684]

That's a false right there they did have a sense of magic and that has to do with the goddess hecte she ruled over magic, doorways, traveling, and aspects of the night I believe

[@ilovemenwithlonghair]

Cyclo peees?

[@kingdomorange2]

lol thats how this one video said it was pronounced. Probably should've double checked!

[@haozhao8029]

@@kingdomorange2 lol it’s fine