ranking monster high ships

[@spectscrawlz_]

Fun fact: at the end of the Booyork MonsterHigh movie (at least it's the Booyork one i think) when Deuce and Cleo reconciliate, one of Deuce's snakes kisses Cleo's forhead :)

[@ashlinawilliams4696]

I don’t think it’s booyork I’m rewatching the movies and show since I love them haven’t gotten to booyork and I remember seeing that scene recently

[@spectscrawlz_]

@@ashlinawilliams4696 i could've totally gotten it confused! I haven't seen Booyork in a long while and i was mostly placing it in Booyork because of the outfits i remembered, but it's rlly possible it wasn't Booyork- Do you mind me asking in which movie did you actually end up watching that scene though? If you want to ofcourse im just asking so i can edit the inital comment--

[@fishiefish2249]

@@ashlinawilliams4696 i think it was boo york

[@OmbreSky]

@@spectscrawlz_ No your right! It was Booyork!

[@spectscrawlz_]

@@OmbreSky oh heck yeah!!

[@starifiied]

We love a monster high phase that never ends.

[@haiwasup3875]

Why should it end? Monster High is great!

[@starifiied]

@@haiwasup3875 3 words The live action.

[@layingL0w]

@@starifiied the live action?? what’s that? that doesn’t exist…. 😭

[@StatickMike]

@@layingL0w ITS COMING OUT IN OCTOBER ...💀

[@layingL0w]

@@StatickMike NO STOP DON’T REMIND ME

[@ms.marvelous8156]

Interestingly, there’s an indication in either a monster high book or doll diary that Rochelle Goyle was crushing hard on Deuce after she saw his eyes because she’s stone and he can’t turn her into stone. It could work because Deuce is a fun, chill guy and Rochelle is mostly serious but she does have moments where she has fun and can goof off, so there is a dynamic of opposites attract.

[@nemashan3701]

i think it was rochelle's diary but tbh i don't ship them ONLY BECAUSE rochelle was canonically with garrot (her parisian bf) and was feeling lonely due to the long distance

[@ms.marvelous8156]

@@nemashan3701 I get that. I think under the right circumstances Deuce and Rochelle could work but Rochelle and Garrot were already so good together.

[@thekinziechronicles5218]

The book series is Ghoulfriends Forever, focusing on Venus, Rochelle, and Robecca.

[@ztarfy]

THIS IS SO CUTE STOPPPP if Cleo and Deuce and Garrot and Rochelle weren't BOTH iconic and great I would eat this up omg I'm torn

[@picklevicle]

YOOO, im sry, BUT THEY WERE MY NUMBER #1 ship as a pre-teen, like I thought it made so much sense n like I literally luved their dynamic in one of the webisodes. N I'm not gonna lie but i was a lil upset when I watched the scaris movie n found out she was already w someone.

[@wildheartrazorfang6]

The thing about Clawdeen being "Confirmed" lesbian is that the original creator saw the fan theory, explained that Clawdeen was intended to not be as "Boy Crazy" as her friends, but then he said that he fully supports the fan theory and hopes that people continue to celebrate what they can find in characters like this... unfortunately, the original creator is no longer actively part of the Monster High team so it's technically not "Canon"

[@woggersonsawesome4916]

Ok i didnt know that, so weirdly enough that makes me feel better about the reboot. While I wish Clawdeen was still fruity, its good to know that the OG creator didnt chose that.

[@anitacheesecake]

@@woggersonsawesome4916 It’s also possible that Clawdeen is Bi or Pan in this new reboot, which I think would be really amazing! The announcement of Frankie being non-binary makes me super excited for the possibility of queer representation in the new Gen 3 series.

[@sushih3302]

So it’s up for fan interpretation, but the creator thought it’s a cool theory is what you’re saying. Nice!

[@glitchpink]

yeah i personally hc clawdeen as a lesbian but it’s not canon

[@BitesforNugget]

This actually makes me happy, because I personally headcanon Clawdeen as aroace. To me she just seems completely uninterested in romance and relationships that aren't her friends and family. I'll admit there are definitely moments that show she is interested in some people, and that at the very least she is bi considering that moment in Ghouls Rule where she said Draculuara's cousin Vlyad is attractive and did attempt to form some type of relationship between them. But Aroace Clawdeen (or on the aro spectrum) is my absolute favourite headcanon.

[@wildmoonchild9404]

In my opinion, Lagoona deserves better.

[@ameacalliope8297]

Yeesss

[@CitrusCardboard]

@@ameacalliope8297 Especially after the reboot design *shudders*

[@wilsonweiseng6485]

she literally has blue in her name and now they made her pink

[@wildmoonchild9404]

I was talking about her relationship with Gil, but yes they did her dirty with the reboot as well

[@我让它发生]

fr

[@amarinell3700]

Speaking of skull shores, I’m 100% sure Frankie is that girl’s reanimated corpse, or at the very least they used her head when they put Frankie together

[@liyakikio2954]

ooooh

[@Pandie2828]

Frankie Jackson and Holt were everything imo and I'm forever disappointed that they never followed up on that also Spectra and Porter are up their with with Cleo and Duce

[@ere2946]

Cleo and Deuce is pure perfection, but Cleo and Clawdeen is interesting...

[@auggiemain]

I like Cleo x Clawdeen bc both their favorite colors are gold and Clawdeen has gold eyes also enemies to lovers

[@emilyhouse2498]

Original Cleo and Clawdeen were voiced by the same actress, this ship is giving me Rainbow Dash x Applejack vibes

[@guppy1821]

Hey why don’t you try Clawdeen x Duce- 💀 (This is a joke I’m shitting on the reboot cus it sucks)

[@cycymaca]

@@guppy1821 We don't talk about that disgrace😂😂😂

[@agonxs2849]

I like the idea of Cleo x clawdeen, they literally are both fearless and fabulous, they both share a passion of fashion too in a way plus her n Cleo would make spicy chemistry. Me personally, I really dig that bc they would give off enemies to friends to lovers arc kinda thing.

[@TFGeodeForce]

When I watched the trailer, the one thing that made me think I would hate the movie was how Clawdeen and Deuce Looked at each other. I wanted to throw something because I KNEW what they were trying to do and I was NOT for it

[@Angstintensifier]

I disagree and agree. I do not enough braincells to see why you chose Frankie over Howleen to ship with Twyla when Howleen was supposed to be the first person to ever make Twyla feel like she could be herself with others and Twyla literally did everything she could to save Howleen in 13 wishes that is sapphics. And I disagree on Nefera x Toralei bc Nefera is an adult and Toralei is 17, that's kinda very wrong. I also agree on Deuce x Frankie cuz no. In conclusion; Cleuce for life.

[@holdmypurserq1200]

I agree with this sm. Twyla and Howleen had their moments so it only makes sense to rank them higher. Anyways, Cleuce for life!!

[@3daniku]

yes!

[@AmandaTodhunterOfficial]

woops i thought she was like a year older than them, nevermind then

[@Angstintensifier]

@@AmandaTodhunterOfficial it’s okay, simple mistake. I loved your video tho

[@Angstintensifier]

@@holdmypurserq1200 yesss!!!!

[@ThEmoWitch]

nobody is ever talking about this ship cuz they’re both side characters but,, Skelita & Jinafire change my mind.

[@rainbowcharms4026]

YESS!!!

[@nicolechristensen7494]

Well Heath and Jinafire is dating in the series-

[@ThEmoWitch]

@@nicolechristensen7494 *confusion* Heath attempts to flirt with her in Scaris and we see them dancing together in the Gloom & Bloom episode, that's pretty much it. on top of that, I'd say Heath and Abbey were definitely a thing!!

[@cheezus2379]

@@nicolechristensen7494 Not really. Tho he did danced with Jin during the GLOOM AND BLOOM + BOO YORK BOO YORK & attempted to flirt with her during Scaris, but him and Abbey make more sense plus it’s confirmed that Heath has been more affectionate towards Abbey (if you could remember the OG MH website saying that Heath’s official crush is Abbey + the MH graphics novel and some of the webisodes)

[@cheezus2379]

@@ThEmoWitch Yessss!

[@scollaceyuri]

please consider operetta x venus, HEAR ME OUT. operetta's the music girl, venus is the environmentalist, activist girl. what if...they use music to spread the message of saving the environment, and thus, riot grrrl is popularized at monster high. also i think they'd work really well together personality-wise

[@kurkkupastillitjalammintee]

You've convinced me, I love it.

[@d4rkshadow826]

Ok I love this

[@trevrah]

I love this!

[@roxie9660]

YESSS i have been aching for a cute ship involving venus!! this is so true i love it.

[@soseiquenadasei2156]

I love it!! But isn't Operetta with Johnny Spirit?

[@outokana2632]

8:09 One of the creators stated that Clawdeen being a lesbian is actually a great idea and would make a lot of sense

[@mintymouths]

Neat

[@ladyjellyfish4757]

Plus he’s a gay man so you know he isn’t just saying that and actually means it

[@beefnuudel]

honestly i disagree with you on ghoulia and cleo…. i think they’re kinda perfect for each other. ghoulia is heavily neurodivergent-coded so maybe they just have different ways of communicating. cleo can be really mean but we also know that it can be her way of showing affection. and nobody else but her can be mean to ghoulia, because cleo is protective of her. i don’t think they would be as inseparable as they are if cleo actually bullied ghoulia. i will forever stand for the smart girl x fashion girl ship

[@Nwdoendmwk]

As a 9 year old autistic girl I was so jealous of their friendship. The webisode where Cleo gets her servants to win the Dead Fast comic for Ghoulia made me cry lol.

[@IivingdeadgirIl]

yess and she even learned zombie-talk for Ghoulia and I think that’s sweet. Theyre like glue I rarely see them apart

[@soseiquenadasei2156]

Yes they're perfect, as friends.

[@StatickMike]

When you said "I don't think that phase ever ended" I felt that

[@thekinziechronicles5218]

The Cleolei ship was really cemented with Freaky Fusion for me. So much energy between the two. Twyla and Howleen in 13 Wishes was adorable, a total dreamer with a levelheaded reality check. Porter and Spectra were so goofy and I love them. Claire and Jackson just made sense, since she could rock out with Holt but also show more of her caring side with Jackson. An ideal pairing. Cleo and Deuce, OTP for sure. However, I feel like they only added in Clawd to dispel the romantic tension between Draculaura and Clawdeen. They literally made a male Clawdeen to pair with Draculaura. That is the main reason I don't ship those two in the higher categories (they were at their best in Frights, Camera, Action). Much like I refuse to ship anyone with Izuku Midoria/ Deku, I refuse to ship anyone with Frankie. It would start too many fights and I am not committed to the energy of either. Abby and Heath are my other OTP.

[@thekinziechronicles5218]

Also! With Clawdeen as a lesbian, in Ghoul's Rule Draculaura tried speed dating and Clawdeen rejected every. single. one. of. them. That cemented the idea that Clawdeen was not straight.

[@roxie9660]

so true, but clawd isn't just a male version of clawdeen, i think they have completely different personalities

[@thekinziechronicles5218]

@@roxie9660 I'm saying when Clawd was first introduced. He's since grown into his own character, and I'm good with that! We stan our himbo jock.

[@roxie9660]

@@thekinziechronicles5218 Ohhh, of course! yes that makes more sense. I stan him too haha!

[@babybeastchaeyoung7053]

my favorite ship that I don't see a lot is Clawdeen x Venus!! both are bold, passionate, stylish and have massive lesbian energy! they interact a lot.. well, kind of interact, in Monster Fusion (because they're fused together) and learn more about their differences and working together :)) idk I just think it's a really cute ship that makes sense and doesn't intervene with any canon ships

[@DREAMCAST0MATIC]

ALL MY TIKTOK ART IS CLAWVENUS AAAAHHHH

[@babybeastchaeyoung7053]

@@DREAMCAST0MATIC WHAT I WANNA SEE IS YOUR USERNAME THE SAME

[@rinoagavel429]

hear me out.. Draculaura and Kiyomi from haunted was such a cute dynamic

[@celrenityVXx]

YESS PLEASE

[@novi_chique]

recently went back to rewatch monster high films and webisodes so I’m living for the MH content

[@tvfantatic3957]

My Monster High phase never left either, lol. I'm currently rewatching the movies and I love it! I have so many Monster High videos planned, and I LOVE it! My favorite ships: 1. Draculaura and Clawd. 2. Twyla and Howleen. 3. Spectra and Porter. 4. Catty and Pharaoh. 5. Cleo and Deuce. 6. Lagoona and Gil. 7. Abbey and Heath. 8. Rochelle and Garrot. 9. Robecca and Cy. (From Monster High Ghoulfriends Forever book series.) (Clawdeen and Deuce are the new pair in Monster High: The Movie.) I'm actually excited for Monster High: The Movie, but I do have a few things I don't like. I did a few videos on it. THE TRAILER LOOKS SO GOOD! The songs I've heard so far are good. (I hate what they did to Lagoona and the Clawdeen and Deuce relationship.) But the storylines are intriguing and I'm excited for it! (I headcannon Clawdeen as AroAce.) Draculaura and Clawdeen are my favorite friendship!

[@mintymouths]

You should do a shipping tier list too! I love seeing other people’s opinions on these things

[@tvfantatic3957]

@@mintymouths. I actually already have. (I've done so many Monster High videos already and a few of them are tier lists.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5-wiGethaior5o

[@berrystein9197]

About MH and Clawdeen: MH characters were not just created by Garret. There were entire teams, each focusing on something different and influencing the others (directly or indirectly). For example, the animation teams were not contacted as much by people, who worked on characters' diaries and personalities. In other words, who knows who really created Clawdeen in the first place and what they wanted her to be (we lack solid info about it). Garret (as far as I am aware) was one of the people who worked on designs, not personalities. He was the one (and only one) to express his opinion regarding Clawdeen's sexuality.

[@thatponighoul]

Garret (and the other designers) did actually work on the story elements with the diary team. Garret oversaw all of the diaries up until he no longer worked on the franchise, so he did have say over and helped with the story.

[@berrystein9197]

@@thatponighoul Interesting Where did you get this info from? And what exactly do you mean under "oversaw"? Did he have a real say in the creation of the diaries or something else?

[@thatponighoul]

@@berrystein9197 He talked about it in his Instagram Q+A. The designers would work with the diary authors to develop the ideas for the characters and overarching stories. When asked where the characters personalities came from Garret said "The designers and copywriters would work together to create them!" I can't find the specific quote where he said he oversaw all the diaries at the moment but I remember him posting it. But I did find where he said he at least worked with the diary author in developing the characters he designed, which Clawdeen is one of.

[@berrystein9197]

@@thatponighoul So, if this info is true, Clawdeen's hobby of flirting with boys was (at least to an extent) approved by him. Also, I do have to say that people working on animations can add new stuff to characters and/or lore. Best examples I can give are 1) the colour of the MH High School and 2) the clip with Astranova talking to Apple and Raven at the end of Boo York (which Garret clearly said was not planned).

[@thatponighoul]

@@berrystein9197 Yes that does mean that it was planned by him, but it also means that he changed his mind about the character he himself created and has a different plan for her now. And yes the people on the animation team definitely put in a ton of hard work and deserve to be acknowledged!

[@dag1984]

Interesting tidbit: Jackson was actually paired up with Torelai of all ghouls in a prom event back in 2014. It was called "A Night in Scare-adise" and it even had it's own website that updated weekly (for six weeks) with info and polls to decide stuff for the prom.

[@janaewilson1441]

I saw in that trailer of the new movie that their putting clawdeen and Duce together and I hate it so much

[@emilyhouse2498]

Scarah and Invisi Billy! They got a brief mention in 13 Wishes but mostly live in the webisodes. And Ghoulia writing a computer program to help her choose between Slo Mo and Don of the Dead, but there was a bug in her code so it tried to pair her with a Heath - wild times. The tea on Valentine is he was going to be a gay man suffering some SERIOUS internalised homophobia and that was why he was on a mission to break girls’ hearts, but the network put their big “no gay” foot down so now he’s just a shallow idiot. Neighthan was planned to be gay too, though not nearly as dramatically, and similarly had that part of his backstory ousted. As for Clawdeen being confirmed a lesbian, Garrett Sanders just said he liked the fan theory, but she was only written to be not as boy crazy as Frankie, Draculaura, Cleo, etc.

[@efflyn_art]

Agree with a lot of these but I love Howleen and Twyla haha. I know it never made it to the movies but Valentine and Spelldon (Casta's little brother) are hinted at being a thing in Valentine's diary and it's such a cute ship!! My absolute favourites are Clawdeen x Venus and Abbey x Frankie but I seem to like rarepairs in MH haha

[@yareyare4293]

I think you should do a video on "rewriting" monster high or finishing it like you have for ever after high cause in all honesty this reboot is dead to me

[@Angstintensifier]

I second that

[@ashlinawilliams4696]

We need this

[@avinoired]

third that

[@infinitetimer27]

I do ship Valentine and spelldon (Casta brother) Because if you get the doll in valentines book he meets a boy and start to have a crush on him and even give him his number. Valentine's was always my favorite villain and to see him get a redemption arc, while also coming out gay is a great thing. I just love it!

[@smileyfaceinc.9110]

Taking Deuce away from Cleo and putting him with Frankie is like taking Mario away from peach and putting him with Daisy.

[@Chococaramel15]

Catty noir x pharaoh is my favourite ship out of monster high! When I saw that movie I shipped them sm!

[@haiwasup3875]

I believe they wanted Claudine to be a lesbian, but weren't allowed to. She will be gay in my ❤. Also Cleo x Deuce for life, always liked Cleo.

[@3daniku]

thats actually not true ^^ i think one of the top comments explains it better than me but it was just the creator approving the fan theory but hes not a part of the team anymore! valentine was the gay character that mattel didn't allow

[@haiwasup3875]

@@3daniku Sorry, it's been a while since i checked the monster high lore. Ty for informing me.

[@jp594]

i hâte gil so much, he does not deserve to be with lagoona. he’s so toxic and even though his family is openly racist towards lagoona he doesn’t do jack all about it. gil is such a walking red flag and lagoona deserves better

[@ermoliasaurus4715]

gil did talk to his parents about lagoona/the racism twice from what ive seen in volume 1-3

[@Empress_diorr]

FRFRFRFRFR

[@swirl..9727]

What icks me the most is the eps where there's a new ghoul in MH if I'm not mistaken named Lorna the redhead water monster and like they seemed too "friendly/close" with eo that it made Lagoona jealous real bad and even CRY due to a scene where she like "she just got back" but she saw Lorna & Gil dancing together blabla cuz he needs to console her after Lorna's bf broke up with her.. In conclusion, yeah he may be some "nice guy" but damn my ghoul Lagoona deserves better

[@beefnuudel]

i honestly see the mh friend group as a bunch of sapphics and then frankie as the obligatory straight friend

[@ayden7882]

Rochelle and deuce, Rochelle had a crush on deuce in the books and since she’s a gargoyle she can look into his eyes without it affecting her since she’s already stone

[@finland4ever55]

You know something about G3 that people either never mention or either only briefly mention: The Slavophobia. I think you should make a video on the Slavophobia of the changes made to Drac and Abbey, specifically Americanizing them, and talk about how Deuce may have had an Americn accent despite being Greek, he gets to still definitely stay greek, meaning the non Slavic Eastern European is okay, and how Lagoona was changed to a different nationality (Colombian) but wasn't made American, as ways of pointing out the cherry picking an making it more obvious. Especially would help if you read some Slavs criticism of these changes too. And yes Abbey's Russian. Her relatives are Frostovitch and Blitnichik, a supposed Himalayan celebrity she mentions is Anton Yaklovitch, she says "IN village we have name for this: preluvnachihnatchkovitch" in why do ghouls fall in love? and of course her accent, so she's Russian, Mattel just called her a yeti and put yak and mountain jokes on her and people are quick to disregard the blatant proof. As for the recent claims the accents were stereotypicl and mocking, point out how only now have people pulled that excuse, how plenty of cartoon foreigners have accents and don't get cancelled, point out how a Hungarian girl mentions that foreign accents should be normalized, not shamed and cut, and how she ends with "calling someone's accent offensive is not okay", because it's not accurate but not offensive at all. As well as how people say "but she's adopted she could still be part romanian" when she so far has no signs of that, but all the signs of being American. And maybe mention the "Asians are all copies and indentical" thing with G3 Drac, who's supposed to be the same, being Filipino in the movie and Taiwanese in the cartoon, and how Filipinos were essentially baited. Maybe also mention my Filipino OC that proves you can have the same rep without changing the characters that already have established backgrounds and lore: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHigh/comments/wpaefr/comment/im1kerw/?context=3 The Hungarian girl talking about why Draculaura being Eastern European is important to Romanians, Hungarians, and other Eastern Europeans. neferasempire.tumblr.com/post/688127657438756864/some-information-about-draculauras-cultural Maybe as a bonus mention all the negative portrayals of Slavs and Eastern Europeans that aren't Greek in American media: Articles on various anti-Eastern European things (including the war and how people have been blaming average Joes for something they had no say in, while calling out things like the Japanese internment camps and defending normal North Koreans): TUMBLR POSTS aristotels.tumblr.com/post/693441298192105472/every-anti-slavicanti-eastern-european-depiction sehiriti.tumblr.com/post/687149119328894976/also-yeah-slavs-do-experience-xenophobia-from-the mist-the-wannabe-linguist.tumblr.com/post/683485884546449408/if-anyone-ever-tries-to-tell-me-slavs-dont-face crazycatsiren.tumblr.com/post/678359898342539264/the-russian-artists-you-are-cancellingboycotting www.tumblr.com/irikh/693953237729067008/controversial-opinion confused-aesthete.tumblr.com/post/686762612768243712/im-not-welcome-in-my-own-country-because-im saja-star.tumblr.com/post/642404563623854080/watching-taken-for-the-first-time-and-oh-boy-do-i siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/681005054520606720/lotr-look-guys-they-read-another-book-waitofficial-mugi-two.tumblr.com/post/680089074200084480/this-will-totally-show-putin nordicbabe.tumblr.com/post/677828679111458816/cant-wait-until-its-popular-to-treat-normal NON-RUSSIAN NEWS SITES and WIKIPEDIA (had to clarify for the paranoid) globalnews.ca/news/8656416/calgary-police-russian-canadian-hate-speech-investigation www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/04/20/national/yoshimasa-hayashi-russian-discrimination-concerns en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_boycott_of_Russia_and_Belarus#Criticism www.spectator.co.uk/article/tom-tugendhat-and-the-worrying-rise-of-russophobia time.com/6156582/ukraine-anti-russian-hate/ www.ft.com/content/829b3108-b6ff-4c9f-ab34-868f0b1e3ed9 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Slavic_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Russian_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Albanian_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Serb_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Ukrainian_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Romanian_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Croat_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Hungarian_sentiment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonophobia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Estonian_sentiment

[@spunchflopbadpants]

yap session

[@bannabanana2196]

It's been a while since I watched a monster high movie, and this video makes me want to get back into my monster high phase. I remember back when I was really into monster high clawd and draculaura and spectra and porter. I was so salty that spectra and porter basically only got one movie and then were never seen again, like there barely in the background.

[@ASurfgirl]

Thanks for putting Lagoona and Gil up there I hate when ppl put either one down or say Lagoona could do better cause they hate Gil. I mean these are supposed to be teenagers and it’s his parents not him. I think it shows a relationship where the parents don’t approve but they still try to overcome that. It could fit many real life situations.

[@yareyare4293]

I really wish monster high went deeper into Claude and draculauras relationship like cleo and deuce but not everything needs to be serious and it still delivers.

[@soloscape3]

The reason why people say Clawdeen is a confirmed lesbian is because Garret Sander, the creator of Monster High, did a q&a on instagram and one fan asked about Clawdeen being a lesbian I think and he said he hadn't thought about it but really liked the idea, so people just ran with it lmao Regarding some ships I'm actually mad to what they did to gil and lagoona, like they could have been really cute and have an interesting story dynamic. The start of their relationship in the webisodes was cute and the fact that they're from different races could have been interesting but at some point their relationship became just that, that they're from different races. Not to mention Gil being toxic to lagoona sometimes :/ I also liked Frankie with Jackson/Holt but I prefered Holt more bc yes 😩

[@acexsketches]

Let’s not forget Duce and Clawdeen in the live action movie. No! No! No! 🤮

[@Nana-cosplay-world]

You realize that I live action monster high was planned from the beginning of creating a Monster High right?

[@acexsketches]

@@Nana-cosplay-world yeah, but I don't think Duce and Clawdeen were planned to be a couple for that one too

[@Nana-cosplay-world]

@@acexsketches to be fair from someone who has seen the movie, they did a really good together they just kind of flirted with each other but not really, also I’m g1 of monster high there were many times were Cleo and deuce broke up

[@acexsketches]

@@Nana-cosplay-world I saw the movie too, just wasn’t my fav, but I do see what you mean.

[@Nana-cosplay-world]

@@acexsketches yeah and Cleo and Duce also broke up in the diary of haunt contour doll lol

[@hearteyedracoon8605]

8:12 I think the creator of the original series said somewhere that he intended to make her a lesbian but was told no due to the times

[@nnnn-sc2im]

after he left he heard from the fans about the idea of clawdeen being a lesbian and he said he thought the idea was cool

[@ThatOneCreator]

I think you may be mixing up things. Valentine is gay and that is canon information but it was "not the time" for it something like that I don't remember details exactly

[@empressofcreativity]

Valentine x Spelldon

[@mimimagic1895]

oh boy, Drac and Clawd. They practically made me cry everytime they were on screen XD I rewatched their scenes SO much

[@blobfishbeans]

sadly the trailer for the new live action movie is definitely a let down 😭 firstly, we've got the fact that there's only two of the mansters really in it, which is CRAP. those two being, deuce and heath. i absolutely love both of them, but i cannot express how much i hate clawd being kicked out of ANOTHER movie. and no gill?? hold my hoops. as for the ships...it looks like the only ship they've really got going as of right now is DEUCE and CLAWDEEN. WHY. the creator of mh, garret sander, said that [talking about clawdeen] "...but as the line went along her never showing interest in boys became a great thing!..." he goes on to say that although it was not his initial thought process for clawdeen, that he loves the idea of clawdeen being a lesbian. he ends his post saying "so run with it and celebrate it!" and now that she's no longer the fierce ghoul who takes little to no interest in guys that we all know and love, it became borderline offensive to many of the fans, because a once so relatable and funny character, is now the new "frankie". she's the main-main character now, and she's not at all sassy and an absolute fashionista. shown to be shy, nerdy, and basically just the whole classic main character package. not much has changed with deuce, tho!! i'm incredibly salty about him and cleo not being a couple tho. he even tells clawdeen not to "worry about cleo" because she's just mean or smtg. idrk but him and cleo aren't really on the best terms which makes me VERY sad. and yk, since clawd isn't in it there's obviously no draculara x clawd, which sucks 😭 ALSO LAGOONA IS NO LONGER AUSTRALIAN??????? as for cleo herself, she's still the sassy rich mummy we all love, but she's more of a bully and doesn't really seem like she'll become good friends with the main squad. she acts more like toralie than anything, at least from what i've heard. and toralie is more or less the same, except she's also now rich and classy? gholia can also speak english. so. abby's still in it this time!! which is awesome! i'm not too sure what they're doing with her, or how her personality is gonna be, but for some reason they decided to TAKE AWAY HER ACCENT TOO??? and draculara is just. NOT draculara. like, i love her character design, but instead of the bubbly and cute vampire she's now a monotone goth girl who practices witchcraft? she's still a vampire, but she is a whole different ghoul from draculara. i'm disappointed. frankie is non-binary, which i personally think is really cool! except now they're blue instead of green? idk. that's my only complaint, really, otherwise i think frankie is probably the best thing to happen to this movie so far. lagoona is also pink? instead of blue?? she looks like a walmart doja cat. i really like her hair, but she's just not lagoona :( she's also now best friends with cleo?? so idk if they're gonna make her a bit of a mean girl too? i'm really really hoping not tho because they've already done so much wrong with lagoona and that's the last thing we need 😭 as for the friendships, instead of clawdeen and draculara being besties, or even FRANKIE and draculara, it's now frankie and clawdeen. draculara is just kind of there, she's still a part of the trio but she's honestly rude and from what i've seen pretty unlikeable. do with this what you will 😭🖐

[@one-onessadhalf3393]

Hush up.

[@lilpinklama7382]

One of my favorite guys in monster high was hoodude and I absolutely loved him and Frankie together I thought it was so cute and I still think they’d be a perfect fit

[@The_Maroon_Rose]

Cleo and Deuce's relationship is at least semi-realistic, and they are so cute together, I love them so much!!!

[@BewilderedCitrus]

I personally don't hate Deuce x Frankie, and this is mainly because of a specific comic I saw recently where Deuce accidently made eye contact with her, but she didn't turn to stone because they weren't "her eyes" technically. She then told him "You have really beautiful eyes" and that just kinda hit me like a ton of bricks. I do still have a preference for Cleo x Deuce in comparison, but Deuce x Frankie is still valid imo. I also feel like a slightly underrated ship is Kiyomi x Draculara. While admittedly, it can be read as one-sided feelings on Kiyomi's part, I do think they would still be cute together. Honestly, a lot of the characters in the show work for multiple ships, so I'm not too pressed about the variety or choosing one pair for a character (except for Spectra and Porter, I feel like that one is pretty cut and dry for an OTP).

[@soseiquenadasei2156]

isn't that story from the origanal trope of Rochelle and Deuce? Rochelle wrote in her diary that once saw deuce's eyes by accident but nothing happen to her cause she's a gargoyle (made of stone) and smt about his power made her fall in love

[@ztarfy]

its the way I agreed with you and screaming yes on every addition to the list and gasping at the new ones I haven't considered like Frankie and Twyla and nodding the whole time is funny to me like we were actually talking about it together 😭 love this video of yours skhsjjgxh

[@sweetcici2778]

Finally! Someone else who saw that chemistry between Frankie and Twyla! I was a bit bitter watching the new series change everything I knew, especially full personalities for some characters and erasing others, but seeing how those two were together and how it just felt natural was so cute that I couldn’t help but love it!

[@earthsandwich1]

You said that Torelei needs someone to be able to put her in her place and I think Lagoona is a great option. She could bring out the best in Torelei. They also have that contrasting thing like cat and water.

[@notificationgangmember9339]

I’m early!! Very excited for this vid and I can already tell it’ll be real fun

[@JellieeFishy]

I almost thought you weren’t gonna add twyla and frankie but i’m so happy not because those 2 are my favourite ship in MH 😭❤️❤️

[@Swamp_fairy]

Honestly I always wanted Clawdeen to be asexual. It was always headcannon for me, because she seemed to be the only character the least interested in guys, I felt like I had someone to relate to

[@stormwright8300]

One of my personal favorite ships is Holt/Jackson/Deuce. I just think they bring out good things in each other and are really supportive. Plus, I like to think that Deuce can look at Jackson because his glasses are so thicc

[@Mona-pq6cr]

A ship that I don't hear much about (and expected since they appeared in only one episode) was Rochelle and Invinsibilly. I loved their dynamic and personalities together, and how Invonsibilly helped Rochelle get the dance role and overcome her insecurity (at least for this part) and it's just so disappointing they didn't get that much attention. I see them as a couple in an alternative universe, I don't care

[@skylarstorm8382]

Not me writing and pausing along with you i feel like i'm in high school all over again ( currently 19) 1. i love draulaura and clawd what i love is that they are so cute,shows polor oppisotes attract, i love clawd being the jock sweet simp and draulaura being the sweet girly girl dom 2. i like lagonna and gill but they will never be my favorites toghter 3. oh how i love rockshell and geret 4. katty noir and pharah love adoe yesssss 5. cleo n decuce and decent to me. dont hate them dont like them but decuce is ugly n cleo is hot like how 6.juh huh frankie and decuce nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe alittle in the books where everything is diff but still nooooo 7. abby and heatlth yes, so cute. protects each other. cools each other down n simmers each other up. love

[@skylarstorm8382]

8. frankie and jackson. they were so damn cute 9. i never watched skull shores so no in put 10. nathen and frankie YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS i dont care what u say yes CLAWDEEN IS NOT A LESBIAN 11. clawdeen and draulauara no i'm sorry no. they are just thoses sweet and caring friends that u always wanted 12. cleo n clawdeen yes i see it im here for it 13. clawtor noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 14.

[@nnnn-sc2im]

am i the only one who thinks clawdeen and draculaura aren’t that different

[@fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094]

The new ship that's coming for G3 is actually Clawdeen and Deuce, and they made Deuce a Ben from Decendents like character and Cleo's ex. Also Heath is now the son of Hades and Celo's new BF...

[@snuffaluffagus9818]

if u read the diaries, and pay attention to the background of why do ghouls fall in love, deuce and Jackson (and holt) would be a great ship 👀

[@dragonuprising8378]

Honestly, even at such a young age, I always had a liking towards Clawdeen and Toralei. Pretty much to the point where I started freaking writing a fanfic of them XD. I'm always a sucker for opposite attractions, whether it's by personalities, backgrounds, history etc and both of them definitely have that with the whole "dog/cat" thing. Plus, I just think there could be so many interactions between them that we had never even thought of. Also, the drama and slight angst there relationship could have is just ripe with possibilities.

[@s4g333]

gil is so bad for lagoona she loves him but he is too worried about his parents

[@vianeyverde]

It's kinda like how deuce is worried about closing family but she doesn't care about them. Except they're reversed. In the animated series, he calles his parents and confront them about Lagoona and when she turned freshwater, he liked how his parents were happy but he said once she turned back that he likes her just the way she is.

[@Empress_diorr]

RIGHTT

[@nathalianunez6692]

In the live action, Clawdeen and Deuce are a thing... And there is no sing of Clawd again 😭

[@youarelikepapayoulie9638]

nah because Toralie and Clawdeen lowkey would give karate kid Johnny and Danny vibes

[@twilightsquire]

I just live in my small corner of loving Scarah and Invisi Billy because I find them adorable

[@Dylansvsp]

Fun fact: current day, toralei and Clawdeen are confirmed to be together. And Valentine is also confirmed to be gay.

[@moistwrmonastring1017]

Clawdeen and Torelai have always seemed like an amazing duo to me, they could’ve been so cute 😭

[@A.x.o.l.o.t.lB.i.t.e.s.]

You actually read my mind last week, nice to know someone's listening lmaoooo. I love it though!!

[@lennogamesyt8876]

I’m s happy your still making monster high videos I still love all your other content but I really love monster high and your personality with monster high is just ✨top teir✨

[@giorgiadiieso8641]

I heard that in the live action has given Frankie they/them pronouns.

[@joelle2497]

That’s just because the actor went by they/them and didn’t want to go by the pronouns of the actual character, even though they’re supposed to act as the character

[@grimmreaper1594]

That’s very interesting, maybe because they have male and female body parts?

[@stormwright8300]

well they are literally sewn together, it makes the most sense. I know I also kinda see them that way

[@Drewski217]

The thing I always hated about Gil and Lagoona is that his parents are racist and yeah that's not him or whatever but what 15 year old needs to be dealing with all these constant micro aggressions?? The back and forth was obnoxious and always the same. They never really resolved this issue either.

[@karolinedemon]

Monster high is that thing that you always come back to if you loved it. Always gonna find you It’s not about saying thay your phase never left, it’s about admitting that you always come back to it

[@unnamedxx]

Clawdeen was never confirmed to be a lesbian but her creator did say they enjoyed the fan takes on her being apart of the lgbt+ community. They also stated she was never suppose to be as “boy crazy” as the rest of the girls. Hence why we never see her date (ignoring the reboot movies). Valentine was suppose to be gay the creator got told “it wasn’t the right time for it” and “your first confirmed lgbt+ member can’t be a villain”. Valentine was also supposed to have a bf named Spelldon-he never got brought to the screen but he is mentioned in Valentines diary entries (not as his bf but Valentine does say some incredibly telling things about having a crush on him). Valentine being gay was actually suppose to be a big part of his character development because he was suppose to learn that he had internalized homophobia and that’s why he leaned so heavily into tricking women to love him. Then when he learned to love and accept himself then he didn’t need to trick girls anymore.

[@legallypumpkin]

Shadow High rlly made Apple x Frankie kinda cute 👀👀

[@closetedweeb593]

This is the first time I've ever seen someone speak positively about Gil and Lagoona

[@belle_lia]

So proud of you Amanda your channel is growing so fast 💕

[@8bitbarbie163]

No, frankie and deuce arent the canon copule... Its worse, its CLAWDEEN and deuce

[@camdenrichard3346]

I’m so excited for generation 3

[@gabriellebowman2520]

Deuce was a perfect pairing with Cleo not only becuz they were a perfect couple but becuz deuce was the kind of guy that would actively call cleo out on her bs when she would go too far and geuinely cared about her well being and supported her as a person.

[@kieranvalentinestan]

Valentine was in it for escapism and denial. He was interested in here because he was hiding a part of himself for a long time, that he is gay. Plus, Valentine and Draculaura shouldn't even be a ship, because Valentine is canoically gay..

[@dozydoe5245]

deuce x gil because of the cute battleships game they were playing in the catacombs for a few days straight (i wanna say 48 hours) because theyre closeted nerds and best friends and neither wanted to beat the other and "jeopardize the friendship" in the end so they started talking smack about how the other cant lose as hard as they can. (season 4) sis, you got some cute ships but id ask for you to kick up the heat next time and keep in mind that twyla is bffs with howleen so theyre probs in the same agegroup, meaning your last ship is potentially between a highschooler and a middleschooler (howleen is clawdeen's younger sister, for reference-) hope i dont sound like a bitch in saying that, but i saw alot of straight canon ships bumped all the way to the top and i feel like thats playing it safe lmao typically as a fan of something, you get a little wild with the literature because the source material could always use a little hot sauce, right? lol honestly this is more of an opinion but abbey is my favorite and the first ghoul that frankie helped out as the new student at monster high and frankie's been dating alot of guys that dont really last so do with that information what you will oop-

[@Sophie_idk_lol]

In the reboot there is a big speculation on Clawdeen x Deuce not Deuce and Frankie :)

[@starseedian]

Hear me out. Cleo and Frankie. Enemies to lovers. When they first meet, Cleo teases her and humiliates her constantly. Cleo hated her in the fist episodes, though admiting she was good at cheerleading and qualified for her team but continuously avoiding to say it out loud. When at a certain point Frankie came to apologize to Cleo about something she did accidentally, Cleo interrogated her a bunch of questions about her interests and Frankie's answers were good enough for her last question to be if Frankie had a boyfriend, to which she said yes pointing to Deuce and then Cleo left fuming. It’s interesting to think that, at that moment when she felt jealous about the situation she could be having second thoughts about WHO she was jealous of, Deuce or Frankie. There is also an episode in which the ghouls are at a sleepover and Cleo insists on knowing who's Frankie's crush with “truth or scare”, everytime she does it, Frankie gets nervous and gets an electric reaction or something. Also later on the show when they become “friends”, Frankie is the only person that can talk Cleo into not giving up on cheerleading, constantly reassuring her of her leadership abilities. Not to mention the moment when they first meet and Cleo does that thing with the finger on her chin and I thought it was hot. End of speech.

[@luzarely6393]

A personal headcanon of mine is that Clawdeen and Toralie are exes

[@emmablack1230]

I rlly like that

[@NightLunaLia]

I'm totally into frankie x Deuce❤️,she was in love of him but she step aside for friendshipof cleo even if she clearly liked him since beginning,i want a chance to see them together,also i like clawdeen x drac,but also drac x clawd anyway. Unfortunatly the movie is putting together random clawdeen and deuce 🤮

[@lildoinker3502]

Billy and Scarah, Venus and Robecca, Operetta and Johnny, Valentine and Spelldon, Vandala and River, Elissabat and Viperine

[@moistwrmonastring1017]

I love that almost every single canon ship is a himbo and his gf, I think that’s sweet

[@blueflamingo4526]

For Clawdeen and Toralei- it's the rivals to lovers/enemies to lovers/cat and dog dynamic for me 😭

[@taco_boi1167]

me who hasn't seen an episode of monster high in my life: hm yes interesting

[@ermoliasaurus4715]

im so glad that im not the only one who ships clawdeen and torelai

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I'm a huge Frankie and Neighthan shipper. Clawdeen and Raythe had potential, but the execution sucked. Clawdeen should've stayed confident and secure while Raythe remained laidback and chill.

[@ianicarus6637]

My favourite couple thats like not in the main cast was schara and invisibilly but like i do cave when that one episode where rochelle was trying out for a dancing thing and invisibilly and her had a cute moment. maybe i just really like invisibilly.

[@alitzeldelamor9964]

IDK but like in th new monster high movie there is a duet with clawdeen and deuce LMAOOO

[@aquagirlcc9115]

Your fanfics are so good, I love it

[@sourlemonbaby8189]

You should totally do a ship rating with ever after high if you like that show! :D

[@Kona_Brewed]

As a long time Toradeen (Toralei x clawdeen) shipper, I really hope this video serves to give life to my favorite ship and fill up the ao3 tag. I am desperate to see fan interpretations of their relationship and just to read about my favorite cats vs dogs lesbians.

[@Mattacue1]

I’m curious on what her reaction to the new Frankie ship in the G3 show would be, but me personally, I like the new Frankie ship in G3, it’s interesting. A part of me will miss the Frankie X Twyla ship though in G2

[@karolinedemon]

Tbh for monster high i never really shipped anybody. I really loved and respected it so i kinda took it as it was. I had no headcanons to be fair, its made so well you don’t have to and i don’t wanna ruin it for myself looking at characters differently… tho some characters had potential or spice to be shipped a bit

[@Theresghostseverywhere]

I ship rochelle + venus + rebbeca since childhood because I had their book and you cannot convince me they weren't togheter, no way

[@iinternetpersona2133]

Cleo and deuce my childhood OTP and they better remain together

[@darigamedelkanova3712]

Since you mentioned Beck and Jade can you make Victorious ships ranking

[@Grace-g8k2x]

5:25 their Chleo and Duce, and nothing will ever change that.

[@ya_v_lesu]

Amanda, I’m so sorry to disappoint you but SPOILER ALERT . . . . . . . . . . . . . In the new movie Clawdeen was implied to fall for Deuce. I was so disappointed

[@sophielem59]

Oh yeah so happy to see you ranking the MH ships!!