Monster Hunter Rise: A Long Review (Version 3.0 (Nintendo Switch))

[@CaptainAstronaut]

Thanks for watching and don't forget to SUBSCRIBE! I played Monster Hunter World on the lowest graphical settings so that my computer didn't explode and I'm not sorry.

[@galaxylad8152]

Thank you Mr. Astronaut

[@wilderbeast9368]

What influenced your decision to become Pro-Mandate, also derogatorily yet rightfully known as Pro-Rape?

[@Voltricity435]

@@wilderbeast9368 yea the vid was overrall good but hte vaccine stuff at the end was cringe

[@yue8049]

@@Voltricity435 what.

[@wilderbeast9368]

@@Voltricity435 Just hoping he's trying to be funny and just failed. If it reflects the real him, I feel sorry for him. I can't imagine actually believing that one's pool floaties don't work because of someone else forgoing pool floaties entirely, lol On the bright side, if he really is serious, he will have no problem showing off his Anti-AIDs adult diaper next vid.

[@jasongibson1225]

I like the maturity of the overall tone of the review. One that understands that different doesn't equate to bad. Rise is loved, and disliked by people. Because it's different from previous releases and games in general. 200 hours though, no matter how you take it, is really good for a game's ability to satisfy a customer.

[@Captaintrippz]

If you came into rise expecting mhw 2.0, prepare for disappointment.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@Captaintrippz It’s a game in the switch, how tf do people expect it to be sequel of world level quality

[@njmontano1625]

When MH fans talk about quality, it's never really about the graphics. It's always about gameplay, monster roster, etc...Unless the said fan started with World. Then there's a chance that such fan is a 4K HD 60fps Supremacist. Otherwise, no.

[@jasongibson1225]

@@njmontano1625 Well, the hypocrisy maybe true, but what does that make this statement? People can enjoy the things they like, and yes, sometimes they're passionate about it. That's just human.

[@EinherjarV]

Agreed. it's a game after all. If you are not enjoying it stop playing. Hell i've spent 100 hours playing Vampire Survivors. best $3.00 i've ever spent.

[@XMarKusKnightX]

"It can be hard to fight Narwa with a melee weapon, since it's a flying monster." Glaive Users: "I have no such weakness."

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

Any melee weapon can do similar damage with kunai.

[@StarmystryYt]

Lol, I main ig. This is true

[@koramora]

I still want Isabelle

[@supergobgoblin424]

And i want an Anka, so i can make her "dance" with my hunter.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Clearly she needs to show up with the Doomguy's Super Shotgun.

[@CALAMITY0FHYRULE]

I want link

[@purpleguy1036]

“You get waaay more rewards than in older games” Me who hasn’t gotten a wind serpent orb in 117 attempts

[@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295]

Meanwhile me who got 6 Teostra gems on 3 separate hunts, without even trying:

[@RomanGuro]

Take 2 palico with Steal Skill and you will be wonder how much they can get :)

[@XonixDerps]

@@RomanGuro So, its a case of not using whats available which I prefer since its a reward for just reading all the extra crap ya have lol Kinda like how ppl complained in world then said: Ohh jsut get plunder how did you not know that!

[@nestorrolon4158]

Well in my case it goes as following: I need 4 Rajang claws for an ornament. I got 0 claws while I've got 3 beast gems in the same hunt. Sometimes looking for the most common of the naterials take up to 5 hunts and in all of those hunts I get lots of other parts

[@thetechrealist]

@@nestorrolon4158 use the palicos to get more items and also the meowcineries at the buddy plaza to send buddies to gather some stuff monster parts for you

[@gammothguy4866]

This channel is incredibly based. Massive MH fan, plays Gunlance, AND plays fire emblem? Not to mention this man knocks it out of the park with what’s happening with the community with the second MH game syndrome and having more streamlined experiences not NECESSARILY being bad.

[@twistedfalcon1996]

I see a lot of people saying “based” just what does it mean?

[@Username-xk9lx]

@@twistedfalcon1996 I also wish to know. I find ppl using it for too many definitions. A friend told me it basically means “I agree”. Ie: person A: “Apples are better than bananas.” Person B: “based”. But the way it’s used in this comment doesn’t make sense according to that definition. Too many ppl using it differently…. They could potentially use it for saying “this channel is incredibly agreeable for me”? That would make the most sense while going with the something similar to the definition my friend gave me. A quick search through urban dictionary only makes it worst….with more and more different definitions. None of which are “I agree”, least not on first page. Making this words slang usage even more confusing.

[@spark9372]

@@twistedfalcon1996 based from my understanding is having more factual based opinions and understanding things from all perspectives even in the face of criticism he's essentially not afraid to speak the near factual truth regardless of the situation his opinion is based on facts and logic leading to the term based

[@blueboy1235]

Gunlance supremacy 😌

[@KyngD469]

@@twistedfalcon1996 it's a word used to appreciate someone's unapologetically honest opinion on something. Especially when that opinion is in the minority or is socially unacceptable. Eg: So saying Dark Souls is bad and writing an essay about it. Could be considered based, especially if the person makes good points.

[@MusicStoRageA]

I agree on how the hunters have gotten stronger and stronger being able to deal with various situations better while the monsters seem stagnant. The fact that one could finish a hunt without having to reevaluate their tactics, as in just attacking, was the part I felt like something was missing in Rise. Some hunts I have done so poorly that I did not feel deserving the carve. As you have mentioned, the game is definitely changing, be it good or bad in ones eyes.

[@kurosan0079]

The amount of "how did you get to high rank?!" rage posts speaks to this. And honestly, we need to have our asses kicked again in these games. Make players earn high rank again. Make players REALLY earn Master Rank.

[@MusicStoRageA]

@@kurosan0079 I had a great time playing the demo on the pc again and honestly enjoyed it more than the actual game. Magnamalo was depicted as this menacing threat only to be beaten in rather a lackluster fashion, which was anticlimatic.

[@kurosan0079]

@@MusicStoRageA Yeah, the demo difficulty is how I think modern MH difficulty should feel like, moving forward. Especially now that MH has a solid global audience, I think it's time for the devs to challenge us again in the early game.

[@MusicStoRageA]

@@kurosan0079 I think it would be better for the armor crafting to be based on whether you can beat the monster than grinding for rare drops coupled with higher difficulty

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Sunbreak will probably kick you harder like how it did with iceborne.

[@fragproof]

I love the uncomfortably long dance 😂 I think the only thing you missed in the review is how charming this game can be. It's light on story but more than makes up for it with charm. "Play Astral Chain" - yes!

[@jasongibson1225]

The longer you watch it, the worse it gets lol

[@otaquid]

I remember being fully prepared when hunting my very first wyvern on Freedom. Items are Potion, Mega Potion, Max and Ancient potion, well done steak and the portable spit, Large barrel, SBB, LBB, gunpowder and so on. And my target......Yian Kutku

[@JoCoHo]

That Kutku killed me so much...

[@Alpheus_09C]

I remember going into the fight with my 300 damage greatsword, and 10 potions... Needless to say... It didn't go well

[@noxccty6200]

Yian Garuga

[@brutaljk5997]

Same

[@LaserTractor]

Still miss the gourmet spit

[@IsLeafOn]

Based, more long Astro content is what we need

[@pumpkinlemonadezero9995]

I loved Rise a lot, but I often found myself running on autopilot while playing it. Playing quest after quest of the same ultra streamlined "jump in the quest, zip directly to where the monster is on the map and beat it up" removed a lot of the magic and wonder that I felt in Worldborne. Figuring out the best pathways of an area, looking for the new monster and then finding it, watching a cool cutscene and beginning the fight was a ritual that I looked forward to every time a new monster was introduced. In Rise, new monsters feel like discovering a new boss, in World, it felt like discovering a new creature with its own unique behaviors and characteristics. Generally, while playing Risez I often felt like the game didn't actually need to put the monsters in big areas to begin with. You don't really search for the monsters anymore, the interactivity with specific ecological elements is heavily trivialized and there is no real point to a monster changing locals anymore. If you need a breather from the fight you can just run away, even without a farcaster (which are only really needed for arena fights anymore) it's not really important where the fight happens since there are way less environmental traps and your movement is completely disconnected from the environmental structure and you can basically change locale simultaneously with the monster due to Palamutes and Wirebug, so there's no "catching up to it" either. Additionally, like you said, monster invasions are now a good thing for the player. In the older titles, from what I know, monsters would just gang up on you. In Worldborne, it depends, but most of the time they still kind of gang up on you, just also fighting each other sometimes or they even have a turf war. That was a really clever feature, because players had a risk versus reward choice to make if they would lure another monster into the fight for additional damage, but also risk having that monster in the fight now too. In Rise, it's just an instant trigger for Wyvern Riding and then the monsters go their separate ways again. Even when the riding trigger is exhausted, they still rather fight each other than the player. It really just makes the maps glorified arenas for you to fight in. Worldborne, on the other hand, had you learning pathways to track down monsters more easily. Which locale the fight took place in was important, since each zone offers different ups and downs. Especially the high amount of different environmental traps (often times paired with slinger interactivity) and slopes and cliffs for mounting are a deciding factor in the locals' influence over the fight. Mounting in Worldborne was also such an incredible feature as opposed to Wyvern Riding. Where Riding us just kind of given to the player as bonus and is way to overpowered, mounting is something that the player has to actively plan for and that requires them to still pass a small skill check to succeed. I often times actively planned my mounting windows around the phases of a fight where the monster would be enraged or in an otherwise dangerous state (like supercharged with Zinnogre or flying monsters... well, flying). If you prematurely used a mount, it meant that you didn't have that option for another situation where it would have been more optimal to use. Riding is always optimal since it completely breaks the entire flow of the fight (though one could argue that the clutch claw also had a similar effect if you learned how to use it). I still love Rise and it has done so much good, and I am obviously just a Fiver with very little experience with this series. But I still wanted to voice my opinion about this game since I think that we should criticise the things we love. I am incredibly hyped for sunbreak and believe that it can fix a lot of the problems that Rise initially had. Thanks for reading this and have a great day!

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

You will get your immersion back in mh6 because it is made by the world devs.

[@noxccty6200]

World and rise are the same tho, it’s too easy. The older games are what monster hunting is all about, new monsters you discover will make you fail the quest a few times

[@barkon34]

@@noxccty6200 I'll give you that World had easier fights but there were still some incredibly hard ones (Arch Tempered Kirin for example) that still required a good amount of strategy and having to actually learn the fights. Rise didn't have a single monster that required any forethought beyond going in and hitting the same attacks over and over.

[@xeroeddie]

I feel very much the same way. I just loved how you can to use ledges and slopes to your advantage in World. I was a hammer main in World and had to use slopes to trigger the spinning jump attack, but in Rise I can do it whenever I want with the silkbind move. Context doesn't matter which takes something away from the experience for me. I also loved that you had to time your jump by using ledges to mount monster instead of just hitring them until the mounting message is triggered. I loved exploring the worlds in World much more and use time to check everything out. Now I just want to get to the monster as fast as possible.I feel like I'm in the minority but all the things that are mentioned as upgrades from World to Rise are downgrades for me. I will give Rise another shot but I also just want to go back and play World again instead.

[@phenomenonnarutokun]

@@noxccty6200 meh, it’s easier because the controls were better

[@greymon1665]

So, Rise is my first MH game. I think that is it absolutely worth it’s price. Rise has the second most hours of any game I’ve played ever, with ~215. Only being beaten out by BOTW at ~240. Yes, it may not fully live up to other MH games with quest variety. However, as a stand-alone game it holds up itself with the amount of content it has. My only gripes are that apexes have no gear and that the random multiplayer is pretty eh. The community (discord, reddit)is very good with tips and giving you people to talk to about the game, including older gen games. Although it is very annoying when all rise is referenced as is “well it’s the easy game.” I was just chatting about Diablos as a fight and a “veteran” swoops in to go “Diablos is so easy in this game, Rise is ass.” But I’m sure those people will say that for every MH game in the future no matter what

[@zangetsu1614]

You'd be amazed at the quantity of "purists" who think their first monhan is best monhan, from MHFU "plesioth hipcheck-philes" to GU "weebadoo hunter arts are bestest", and the newest MHWI "if it not has super detailed backgrounds and graphics that i ignore cuz i follow flies it sucks". It's monhan, we all love monhan, we should all be happy to be hunters no matter the game lol

[@simmie912]

@@zangetsu1614 I agree with your points and all, but why do u call MH "monhan"? No offense or anything, just genuinely curious.

[@zangetsu1614]

@@simmie912 stuck with me years ago, when i played it on japan ad hoc party lol, "monsta~ hanta~", shortened "monhan" by the japanese lol. And it stuck and is easy on the tongue xd

[@thomasdeguzman1149]

@@zangetsu1614 I've played World Iceborne ont he PS4 and now Rise on the PC. And as someone who now works full-time, I'm thankful how streamlined Rise is. The environments in World was pretty and immersive, but I much prefer how Rise just puts you straight into the fight. No time wasted tracking the monster, just go straight to the monster and fight. If there was one thing I'd wish they'd brought over, it's the investigations and seiges. Not a fan of Rampages so far

[@rathknight0361]

The human vs epic monster dynamic is exactly why I stuck around when I first played 4U and why I play GU without hunter arts (yeah I get destroyed alot, but I have fun), heck it's why I main sns! I love potlid and ladle!

[@diegoayala7450]

I actually really enjoyed MH worlds maps and it was really nice to explore them and discover all their secret spots

[@anenemystand5582]

I mean they were mazes. I just don't see that as a negative. It reminds me of my real life where I immediately get lost once I've walked out the door

[@joelisvysniauskas4653]

same I actually learned most of the maps and can navigate pretty well

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Fighting in the base world maps is a whole different story tho.

[@joelisvysniauskas4653]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 I love fighting in world maps idk what you are talking about

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@joelisvysniauskas4653 slopes, slopes everywhere

[@squibbles_]

My biggest gripes with Rise are probably the difficulty and streamlining, personally. A big part of MH for me has always been taking my time, and throwing myself at a challange time and time again, trying different things until I pull it off. Those challanges are usually the ones that stick with me, and it's a shame to see that Rise doesn't really have much in that department. There were maybe two fights in Rise where I got that feeling, those being high rank Magna, and Allmother Narwa, (which is easily my favorite fight.) Besides those two, I could pretty much breeze through the whole game, without much of a need to stop and plan. I really hope Sunbreak is packed with more fights like that, and that the monsters in master/g rank do a better job of accomodating for the player's heightened mobility

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

On the topic of stuff like streamlining. The main line team are handling the immersion aspect while the people who handle rise(called portable team) are handling more on gameplay.

[@squibbles_]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 I'm aware of that, but I don't think that has much to do with my issues on the game. My problem isn't that Rise isn't immersive enough, it's that there aren't many memorable challenges or roadblocks. Maybe it's just me, but the lower difficulty combined with the shorter grind makes Rise feel like a game that's just designed to be glided through with very little resistance. That's not inherently a bad thing, but I've come to expect otherwise in MonHun as a franchise, which is why I was a little dissapointed to get such an experience in Rise

[@ashokrohan7232]

@@squibbles_ you're right. a lot of us feel robbed of the challenge we paid $60 for. Also it feels like certain things were deliberately removed from the game in order to be added to the expansion

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@ashokrohan7232 are you saying rise is bad?

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@squibbles_ generations also does not have roadblocks.

[@Jak_Grajeda]

This video was made for the sole purpose of promoting Astral Chain at the end. Being serious, I agree with your points, both the good and the bad. I hope Sunbreak helps with the content and difficulty problem, specifically the difficulty for the more experienced folks, since at this point veteran Rise players should be at very least decent at the game.

[@bensoliman19]

The planning part was one of the best gaming memories the crew had since playing Unite back in the day

[@nauro9187]

did i just watched a 40 minutes long ads for astral chain? yes! and i love it. in all seriousness, i love the review, as a newcomer (kind of) i love to see the insight of older generation players, it opens my eyes to things that i only consider as an incovinience, but could actually become a fun thing, like preparing a lot, a lot of healing items and material to make such healing items and strategizing how to defeat a monster, it sounds so fun to experience, like how i hated, despised, gloated, cursed, isshin the sword saint when i first fight him, but loved it when i actually beat him. thank you for the great video mister astrounaut man

[@MiniWhiteDragon]

My biggest issue with rise is the lack of preparation required from the player. A big part of the old games was thinking about the monster you were about to fight and planning on how to fight it. Bringing sonic pods for diablos, bringing flash pods for rathalos, ect. I didn’t have to use any utility to get through rise, which felt kinda dumb.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

People justifiably hate monsters like azure rathalos and black diablos because of the need of items to even fight those monsters.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Those 2 monsters suck and if you try to defend those things I might have to hunt you.

[@rodrigocastillo3425]

The only game where i needed sonic bombs for Diablos was Tri, and i've played every mh.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@rodrigocastillo3425 because he was kinda obnoxious there.

[@arminlutz8294]

@@rodrigocastillo3425 So you played through Freedom, Freedom 2 and MHFU and never used sonic bombs on diablos? Thats very hard to believe actually, but good for you.

[@jamesizatt6536]

Simply one of the best breakdowns of a game I've seen in a long time ... great job... 👍. I'm a old school hunter been playing since 2007 and the things I miss is like you said getting your ass handed to you and then stepping back and making a plan of attack with your buds and 2. This is where other players might differ but I miss the grind fighting a monster twice and being able to build a complete armor set just doesn't sit right with me in hunter . I don't know maybe it's just me . Anyways loved the review good job bud.

[@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295]

I'm gonna be honest, MHRise was my very first MH game, and when I saw the first trailer during the August 2020 Nintendo Direct Mini, I thought "damn, this game looks really cool!" Before that direct, I only heard of MH when Rathalos was added as a boss in Smash Ultimate. Then the demo came out, I installed it and played it and... I hated it. I didn't understand a single thing of what was going on, I could barely take on the Great Izuchi fight, and got my ass handed to me every time I tried to fight the Mizutsune (and don't even get me started on the Magnamalo fight). I thought the game just wasn't for me, I was really disappointed. But then June came, my dog had recently passed away, and I remembered about the game and how you could have a dog to accompany you on your hunts. So I decided to buy the full game and give it a try, and I loved it. I designed my palamute to look like her, and my first weapon was the Longsword (because I didn't know you had one weapon of every type when you started). Initially I had a fear of taking on the large monsters because of the demo, so I did an expedition and my first successful hunt was an Arzuros. Then I went through the game and I faced my first story wall: Barroth. That guy always kept stunning me with its headbutts and I failed the quest like 3 times before I realized I had to make better armor. So I went and made an Aknosom longsword and Ludroth armor set, to finally take it down. And then Magnamalo came. It was a really hard battle for me but I managed to take it down with 2 faints. It felt really good with those end credits. After those two I didn't really have a story wall until I faced Ibushi on the rampage. It took me like 6 tries to repel it, but man, hearing Proof of a Hero during the final phase was really good. Then I completed the rest of the game, slayed the Allmother Narwa, and fought Valstrax. I gotta say, this was one of the best experiences I've ever had with a game, but I really think the endgame should be better, it gets boring after a while (rn I'm farming to get every single gold crown). And even though I've been a Nintendo-only person my whole life, I'm now planning to get a better PC to play MHWorld (if I ever have the chance, but I'll probably just buy MHGU first). Just the fact that a game is convincing me to try playing on other platforms for the first time in my life is very amazing. Thanks for reading my comment. Sincerely A new MH fan.

[@Lxthall]

Loved the story man (r.i.p doggie 😢) monhun is really one of those series that’s more then just a game but an experience.

[@JodyrJoestar]

Many MH players always forget that the gMes should also attract new players and I remeber on the PSP MH:Freedom 2 I hit a wall on Khezu (like the 6 monster in the game) and I stopped playing (I was like 8 at the time) in World my wall was Diablos but you just kinda get smarter with the games. So in Rise (PC) I never fainted till I hit High Rank. While my friend who playes MH for the first time right know really made us sit on that “last faint” a few times ^^

[@zacharynovak2180]

It feels like the devs who designed the monsters didn’t take into account just how powerful the wirebugs are when it comes to evading attacks. Sure there are a few attacks and moments where you have to be skillful about wirebug use, but they aren’t very common or are way too simple. I think the new movement system really changes the flow of battle in a big way and the designs of monsters are going to have to almost always keep that option in mind. Not that I want it removed! Using wirebugs really made hunting so much more fluid and allowed for a more aggressive playstyle. I have hopes that the Sunbreak dlc will focus much more on promoting skilled wirebug use. Maybe some smaller monsters knock you down and then watch for you to use a recovery wirebug and then punish you by pouncing on where you land (or hitting you out of the air). It would be up to the player to be cognizant of if the monster is waiting for that option or doing something else.

[@bloodbane93]

Exactly. The recovery bug is SO powerful and it’s really understated just how much that one move changes the entire flow of the game. You can basically can just ignore whatever the monster is doing provides you have enough health/defense. I really feel like it should be 2 bugs.

[@azure4622]

I don't mind if they remove the recovery and silkbinds (I'm okay with switchskills though) but they *must* keep the wire bug for out of combat moving

[@ashokrohan7232]

Agreed man omg. You don't even have to pay attention to the monster anymore

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Wirefall will just be nerfed like how temporal is.

[@stormetro6046]

Actually if you pay attention to dev interviews, they typically dial the monsters up to maximum difficulty so much that they can't figure out how to properly deal with their attacks. They then dial down the difficulty until they feel it's just right so the difficulty we received in Rise was certainly intentional. For example, Raging brachy in Iceborne had an attack from his reveal footage, not trailer, that didn't even make it to the game and that attack looked f*cking insane to deal with (unless in ~60 raging brachy and watching tons of online footage, I have never once seen it).

[@marcheharvey2301]

You thought I won't focus on you dancing in the dance joke by putting it in the lower corner? Hmm you're mistaken

[@JairusC]

I legitimately laughed at the skit about strategizing and making a plan to fight Diablos. EDIT: Okay, you've had MULTIPLE witty bits in here and I'm subscribing. Very entertaining and thoughtful review!

[@IVIUT3D]

Rise's 1 major advantage is it is the most fun game to just explore, I have a lot of fun parqouring with other players using stamina builds.

[@SilentGlaceon94]

It's my first Monster Hunter game and I love it. While it took me a while to understand how MH works and get to the meat and potatoes, I had a blast going through it. I honestly wish that Capcom would bring back some of the weapons that were in the spinoff games to the mainline games for some variety in gameplay.

[@azure4622]

If you like rise you should try some of the older games too -i mean you can't go wrong with more MH-

[@RUSHYRUSHY39]

@@azure4622 True! I started with world (which I accumulated about 900 hours in by now) and I’ve finally bought MHGU as my second MH game ever! And while it’s different, it’s been super fun learning new ways to play and also having some things that made World easy taken away from me.

[@CaptainEffort]

@@RUSHYRUSHY39 That’s awesome that you’re enjoying it! I love hearing when World hunters go back and end up enjoying the older games, I feel like it makes the community tighter if that makes sense. I hope you continue having a good time with it!

[@treaon511]

@@RUSHYRUSHY39 Same for me but with rise lol, it technically isn't my first monster hunter game I played since I've tried every mh game demo 3 and up (aside from world) including the Wiiu and nothing about the game never stuck. But finally this year I gotten into rise having 150 hours in, the game was really fun and made me get GU which I currently have 360 hours in. Don't get the wrong idea though I didn't stop playing rise for it's overall difficulty or content problem people say I just generally overall like GU's styles and arts!

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@treaon511 Yeah, GU is just unfair cause it has so damn much content. It's the ending point of "old" monster hunter, so it got to have basically everything from all the old games at once (except for some stuff, obv.)

[@NocturnalFudj]

Ashamed it took me this long to get around to this but this was a great review! Sums up pretty much all of my thoughts on the game, I think Rise is great and can't wait for Sunbreak but I'd be lying if I didn't say I still preferred World for the more balanced difficulty and attention to detail in fights/environments that I think Rise lacks slightly. Black Diablos in World was my first ever "wall", first ever monster to triple cart me multiple times and tbh I kinda wanted a similar experience in Rise so I could have the satisfaction of overcoming it? I never had like a big epic victory that I'll always remember in Rise, just an uncomplicated good time; which is fine! But I'm really hoping Sunbreak can put some more meat on the bones and add on to what is a really strong foundation that just needs some more teeth

[@Emacspirate]

Great video, and you do a great job of putting into words classic MH nuances I have been missing.

[@eisschnee2649]

I think Rise is a very good game, but I feel like the roster, despite its number of monsters, is more quantity over quality. There's an absolute ton of basic tutorial type monsters, and it makes it feel kinda lacking when I have to fight great wroggi, great baggi, AND great izuchi in low rank and then low and behold fight the exact same baby boy birds again in high rank. More diversity would have definitely helped this game go a long way (like seriously, 3 basic bird wyverns and they couldnt have but in Bracydios or Agnaktor???), and I hope it's an issue solved in Sunbreak. One side note, I wish they hadn't changed Valstax' theme so much. It felt like it was lacking the intense energy the original had in my opinion.

[@JodyrJoestar]

Yep def this, there’s so many low monsters that just kinda all fill the same slot… I overall just really miss my “Nemesis” from World: Odogaron. I hunted him everytime I wanted to test my new gear cause he fucked me up so much when I started World. His offensive moveset made him the ideal “sparring partner” for new sets. I really didn’t have to Hunt him 107 times… but I did

[@uffotrash]

@@JodyrJoestar love odo too! i saw they announced a like variant of odogaron for the new DLC Sunbreak, but i hope OG doggy comes back too...

[@Xenowolf8]

Ever since Amaterasu was added as a Palamute, I’ve wanted the beast legion and the x-baton in the game. And maybe they can add the axe from the axe legion as a great sword, or a bowgun based on the arrow legion.

[@shadowdahuman]

The thing about the community pisses me off the most. People rushing through the content and then complaining there's nothing left to do. Also comparing a new base game to ultimate/g-rank versions and saying it has less content when the graph you showed, shows that rise has more monsters than 4, and that game was meaty AF. Anyway that was my rant and I thank you for giving me an opportunity to vent it. Great video, thanks for the better part of an hour of entertainment.

[@Aesieda]

If the content in the game is easy, don't be surprised people are rushing through it. Also, Rise may have more monsters, but a good number of these monsters are either too easy or don't reward anything (like Apex).

[@YouMystMe]

"Monsters" does not equate directly to "content". And after comparing base games with Rise, Rise is lacking.

[@cookedghost]

I came back to MH after playing Freedom Unite and Tri as a kid. I miss the preparation older games required, but I get the change from strategy to tactics and I can live with it (or go play Gen Ultimate). True, Rise definitely feels easier than other MH games, but A. G rank is still missing, and B. last time I played the series I was 13, offline, and not the brightest tool in the tactics shed - so I'm taking my own experience with a grain of salt. With that said... I blew through the campaign in 60 hours in the first week, and first got bored after 300+ hours, which I really can't pin on the game in good faith. 8/10 fantastic loop, great potential, wish more of my friends were playing it

[@seroujghazarian6343]

G-rank will be added in Sunbreak

[@billseven2191]

As an old blood to MH series, yes I can relate, 16 trap is a thing when me & my buddies stacking those crafting books & stock up ingredients for crafting IN the quest, you know shit is about to get real

[@jimhuang3392]

the day when sleep bombing sns is a viable tatics

[@cooperlittlehales6268]

This is an unexpectedly well rounded video. No idea why I didn't expect it, but I really appreciate the thought and effort you put into this video. From the discussion on difficulty and how the player's previous experience can alter the next one, to the talk about the post launch support and what this game was trying to achieve, this is one of the best monster hunter videos i've watched in a long time, and I hope you continue to make content of this standard in the future. You have earned yourself a sub my friend.

[@oak3684]

Probably the best review of Monster Hunter Rise I’ve seen. You’ve nailed down every positives and negatives I have with the game (and even preferences such as liking the rampage mode XD). I’m glad you talked about the lack of DLCs seen in the older games, namely GU, which I consider a tradition in the series at this point. I was always excited to see what kind of crazy collabs they would bring into the new game which sometimes are pretty obscure stuff (to the west at least) like the GARO set from the titular Japanese tokusatsu show, Grandpa from the Grandpa Danger series and even original equipments inspired by real life brands like UNIQLO. There are also tons of special weapons, a lot of which are from anime like Zoro’s 3 swords from One Piece (certainly one of the best collab weapons ever). So yeah, the collab feels extremely lacking in Rise with Capcom collab with itself (love that Obama pic XD). Although I have to give credit to the Akuma layered armour for its functionality! Otherwise, they’re all been pretty underwhelming like you said… Sonic collab is an improvement but it’s nothing special either, surely not something that makes me go “Wow! I have to get back into Rise and get this!!”. Heck, the Sonic costume for the Palico with the Caliburn sword looks way better than the thicc thighs Sonic costume in Rise (but points for how it can run with blurry feet, roll into a ball and turn into Super Sonic, very cool). The lack of Nintendo collab is understandable…at first. Now that they’ve confirmed no cross save between the Switch and the PC version, they could have added the Nintendo collab in the Switch version (then they can add something else exclusively for the PC to keep things fair on top of how the PC community can just mod the heck out of the game anyway). I appreciate the little topic like the Guild Card exchange, too. In the older games, as you have to join a room, you usually hunt with a certain group of people for a long time and you get to bond and earn their trust and respect in the form of their cards. I especially love doing this with the Japanese players as they are very formal and treat exchanging cards a very important deal, almost like in real life for the salarymen. But in Rise, you mostly join the random quest and have no time to interact with other players, especially when there are less cooperation in the hunts as everyone is practically a superman and just go off to do their own thing rather than working in a team. I don’t really feel the camaraderie anymore and feel less incline to exchange cards. Another thing that I’m really glad you brought up, which almost no one else mentions and is one of my biggest personal gripes with this game is the monster intros. The horror, poem style intro is cool and all, but the lack of your Hunter in those intro is a big miss for me. I absolutely love the intros in 4U and World, seeing your Hunter interacting with the monsters and getting you hyped up for the fight. I also love to put on different armours or DLC costumes and rewatch all the intros. They should have done the same in Rise and keep the poem style intro separate, like an ecology video instead (speaking of which, whatever happen to the ecology video? Bring this back, Capcom!). The intro in 4U is my personal favourite as it does not only have action sequences but also comedic moments like when the Palico face up against Zamtrios. It also features other hunters in the scenes for arena based monsters like Akantor and Dalamadur - a feature they definitely need to bring back. On a related topic, the cutscenes in Rise are pretty garbage, too. Not only are there very few of these cutscenes, they’re mostly consist of you just standing around talking to NPCs. They’re the most boring cutscenes ever and could have just been done as dialogues instead. The only action scene is that one you get chased by Magnamalo and that’s it, just you running away like a pussy. Your Palico and Palamute are also only in 2 scenes, the opening and ending… Anyway, great review!👍

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Tbh, portable team isn’t known to make cutscenes.

[@oak3684]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 If they’re not competent in making cutscenes with the in-game engine, they could have given us some cool CG cutscenes like in other portable titles like MHX and MHXX/GU. Yeah, there’s also the lack of cool intro in modern MH games which is another tradition that got ditched…😢

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@oak3684 at least we don’t have loading zones.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@oak3684 have you seen gu monster intro’s? Atleast rise has creativity.

[@oak3684]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 I’m talking about the “game intro” before you start the game in comparison to Rise’s cutscenes, NOT the monster intros (which I also pointed out in my rather long post up there that I think Rise’s monster intros are cool, but I still prefer ones that have your hunter in it). And yes, GU’s monster intros are the worst. Even the intros from the very first MH game on PS2 are wayyyy better.

[@pumgoyo3428]

Great video man only thing I would say concerning the difficulty is that you do play with 4 people imo that has made pretty much every monster hunter game easy even the old ones especially 4 people has always been sorta easy literally only thing to watch out for is multi carts at the same time and in rise playing with solo or with one other player makes the game much more gratifying I play with my cousin and he played 2 other mh games before he’s not the best but he made us fail many a quests the game was not that easy for him and when u have 4 people ofc all the builds are gonna be put on damage and attack stuff because u can already rush down monsters anyways since there are 4 of you

[@YouMystMe]

You are right. However, in my 300hrs in Rise I've played 95% solo and its way too easy.

[@MA-go7ee]

I've always said that the best way to play MH was solo. It is Far more intense

[@pablosgr96]

Couldn't agree more with all the points you make in the video. Rise is a great game but it shows how the series is changing some aspects that I, as a veteran, consider part of the essence of the franchise. Sunbreak can't fix everything that Rise lacks but at least some of the issues (events and challenge) may be resolved.

[@felixputz5190]

Just 3 minutes in and I already subbed because I love everything so far, especially how you talked about the music

[@noxtide7043]

Honestly, my two biggest gripes are: Magnamalo: is a really poorly made flagship monster (personally), he was built up to be a massive threat, and then gets slayed really early on. In Mh3, Lagiacrus was an invincible threat that you had to run from until you had a final duel, and then fight even stronger versions. Same thing happened with Nergigante, and it really just feels like they wanted Nergi The Sequel, and make him look cooler than he is by fighting elder dragons. Extra content: I really don't mind the extra quests and im neutral about them, but it really left a sour taste in my mouth were content updates. Updates that were hyped as new and exciting content, was literally just content that should've already been in the game (we didn't even have elder dragons besides the final bosses, and we didn't even have a conclusive final boss, just a cliffhanger fight) and then locking a bunch of items that could've been event items behind a pay wall left me feeling gross. I'm not sure if its me still clinging to the older games having all the content and living in the post "gotta buy g rank to access it now" world, but I wanna hear some thoughts

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Tbh, you always seem to buy the ultimate games

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Wdym, its always the buy grank version version remeber like in mh g to mhgu?

[@noxtide7043]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 the difference is that you werent just paying for g rank, you were paying for a better looking, better running, updated, better game that also came with g rank. And of course people are going to buy the ultimate games, why would they buy an inferior version?

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@noxtide7043 when was stuff other than extra content added in grank?

[@tiellimilin6622]

I still remember meeting zinogre out of know here in mhp3rd

[@NiSE_Rafter]

I've been joining random groups in the monster hunter gathering hub discord and it's been fun. That addressed the lack of people forming groups for me.

[@theuniversearcana4986]

Im magnamalo’s defense, his entire design was made to counter the speed of the hunter’s wirebug speed

[@ShatteredGlass916]

Magnamalo IS the flagship of this game, it's his purpose to be 'the wall' for players. Like Nergigante in MHW

[@boshwa20]

@@ShatteredGlass916 Well he utterly failed at his job

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@boshwa20 You should check the other portable team’s flagships that have as much build up as magnamalo or even worse ones like the fated four were they are sometimes spotted then you just fight them without any build up.

[@boshwa20]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 The game doesn't even have the decency to even let you fight Magnamalo a little. It gets one cutscene to look scary. ONE. That is an utterly pathetic first impression compared to the likes of Gore, Nergigante, or even any other flagship. Hell, Glavenus gets a better introduction because the NPCs accidentally drop you off right in front of it when you start a simple gathering quest. Cool monster, terrible flagship

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@boshwa20 the other 3 fated four does not fair even better. Zinogre kinda just exist in portable 3rd and brachy has no build up.

[@lukaslykus9599]

Lol! Almost spot on. Here’s an experiment I did. I picked switch axe for this and used the same strategy in Generations Ultimate as I did Rise. My strategy was to stand in one spot and see how long I would last spamming the default attack button with default gear. The Great Macao in GU handily mopped up the floor with me while the Great Izuchi and it’s minions barely scratched me. I did get excited when the Great Izuchi started to limp away and I got to use other inputs on my controller. That is not by any metric second MH syndrome. I still have to pay attention in GU and 4U whereas I have fallen asleep from not having to think about my inputs in Rise. I can play Rise while picking my nose (with a tissue; I’m not a heathen) petting my dog and taking a piss. That’s Rise’s greatest strength … a sleep aid.

[@victory8928]

Now try that with the other starter bird wyverns. Great maccao is literally the best starter monster period comparing it to izuchi is like comparing the best apple in the orchard with the standard one.

[@martinaaricgo1029]

Maccao is an anomaly, much so that great jaggi is easier

[@xAramil0x]

@@victory8928 he didn't try nothing in the first place. While Greta Izuchi is not a hard monster it tends to jump around cause it needs space to do it's like the pounce, the slam and the tail spin so you just stay in one spot spamming attack you would just be there missing 90% of your attack and get pushed around. Plus basing your opinion on the entire game on the first bird wyvern would make every mh a shit game.

[@navi8801]

I reserve my final judgement of monster hunter rise until master rank arrives. So far, i am really loving it! This game has finally made me try other weapons i otherwise would have had NO interest in playing. Even in world, i didn't really venture out of my comfort zone with weapons, i dabbled in hammer only because of the sliding attack, that is addicting stuff. I've been a horn main since freedom unite and always stuck with what i knew. Trying weapons like greatsword, hammer, gunlance/lance, and charge blade made me appreciate how well the weapons were balanced (except sticky ammo) and felt almost like an entirely new game because of it! The only gripe i have about the new world games is the ability to restock at hunting camps. But i 100% understand the reason behind it, especially for newer players. Having to reset a quest for something as simple as forgetting to eat or grab a certain item you needed doesn't make it hard, just tedious. A tiered system for low/high/master rank could apply here. Low rank you can restock anything you want, high rank you can only restock certain items and at master rank you can't restock at the tent at all except for food buffs.

[@devv197]

As a horn main since GU I definitely recommend using other weapons in World (besides HBG and LBG). I never knew how fun IG was because just like you, I didn’t leave my comfort zone. It wasn’t until Icebourne i tried it and now it’s my 3rd most used weapon. Now i main HH, SnS, and IG.

[@ssfbob456]

Yeah, I thought World was too easy until Iceborn came out and I started getting smacked around all over the place, and I was like, "Oh yeah, that's the Monster Hunter that I remember."

[@AModeratelyOutrageousDino]

Hey dude I thought this was a super quality review. Thank you for all the effort and weaving in comedy with your points. Really enjoyed and keep up the good work :)

[@brokenpianotunes1923]

First time I got to play against Megan with a friend, I told him 'once you learn his move set you can dance around him, hes not so scary' and then he immediately carted and said he looks pretty scary

[@WolfyMelon]

Such a good video, well thought out and I enjoyed watching. Thank you!

[@CaptainAstronaut]

Thanks WolfyMelon!! I love your piano covers too, they're all so good!

[@bogosbinted450]

Sandy plain is one of the best theme in the series, you cant change my mind

[@byun6786]

OH MY GOD I KNEW SOMETHING WAS MISSING IN RISE AND I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THE METAL GEAR-ISH SOUND WHEN YOURE DETECTED BY THE MONSTER. It was something you never really thought of in older games but damn, not having it in the new ones does kind of feel off.

[@YouMystMe]

There are so many small things like this completely missing, and I just hope they didn't intentionally leave all these things out. They said they had issues with the pandemic, I can only hope that is why the game feels less polished than every other MH I've played.

[@marcoasturias8520]

Easy fix for strong silkbinds and wirefall: make them cost 3 bugs, and have slow cooldowns, that way, you´ll have to manage well your use of not only the moves, but the resource each area gives you.

[@LuckyNumber777]

I really really like your video. It outlines my opinion on Rise in-depth whenever I compare it to past games(esp World) in better ways than I ever could. I appreciate your review immensely!

[@rodrigoandrade8586]

There's only one thing that I think It really ruin the experience, and the monster's mark in the map. I've recently been playing MHGU and I did realized that without the monster's mark you can enjoy better the mystery and exploration instead of going from point A to point B.

[@mslabo102s2]

I wanted to go back to MonHun when Espinas is announced for Sunbreak, but this finally broke my illusion I had and calmed me down. Thank you.

[@CivilChev]

I'm with you on feeling like preplanning isn't required anymore and one of my favorite stories wouldn't be possible in current MH. My friend and I are playing MH4U locally and we just took care of the Chameleos where we had to go in with no items. Well afterwards we immediately went onto another hunt without restocking and the only reason we cleared the hunt was because we both were IG users and bugs still did damage even though our weapons would bounce off of the monster. We also used getting the green extract from the tail to heal ourselves to stay in the fight. It took so much longer and we could have just abandoned the quest and gotten our equipment, but we decided to stay and see what would happen. We cleared the fight with just barely enough time to spare which was the last quest required to get into G-Rank. It felt so good! Edit: I also want to add that I lucked out and never had to deal with the 2nd MH game syndrome, though it makes a lot of sense. My first MH game was MH3U on the 3DS and I did NOT have a Wii U. That meant I could only play local multiplayer and my friend group wasn't good enough to get past High Rank. I also was a DB main despite being bad with it. I tried all the other weapon types but nothing stuck for me. Then MH4U comes out and not only do I have access to online multiplayer but the IG is also introduced and I fell in love with the weapon upon using it for about 3 minutes. Everything clicked and not just because mounting was OP as I continue to use IG throughout the rest of my MH career.

[@erentsen]

Hey this video is great and your "Diablos group huddle featuring Marth from Fire Emblem" was straight fire 🔥 👌

[@DeoxTew]

Rise just feels short. That could be a combination of different reasons; be it from how cheap it is to craft gear, the fact that there's only one set of armor per monster, or how easily we body monsters due to how stronger we are in comparison so hunts go by quickly. Could even be because event quests aren't rotating on a schedule, like in World. It definitely can't be the lack of monsters and monster variety, as we have more in Rise than in base World, excluding the Apex variants in Rise AND the event/subspecies in World. Outside of everything else, the game is fun and enjoyable. I just hope Sunbreak brings back the more than one set of armor per monster and feels as big as Iceborne in terms of scale. Now I'm from the "Old World" of hunters, even going so far back as to -PTSD- Freedom Unite, but 4U being the title where the game "clicked" and made a MH Franchise SIMP. Rise is amazing! The movement and new monsters are insanely unique and fun af, but there's this unshakeable feeling that the game is short. Edit: Khezu is in Rise, game sucks. The End. All jokes aside, fuck that -unending screamin' fuckin' phallus with wings- monster. #TeamGigginox

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Portable games do not have rotating events.

[@DeoxTew]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 I was referring to World's events system. I can make it more clearer by changing "like in World" to something akin to "that was implemented in World" ?

[@b2air1921]

That Marth section gave me flashbacks to my clustered inventory in the older games

[@SwordsmanOrion]

Almost every issue that Rise has started in World. That's where Monster Hunter actually began to change. Rise is a lot more fun to play than World in a lot of ways, but it is continuing to push into more casual and easier gameplay.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

I mean, when you look at world’s sales to mhgu’s sales.

[@Aesieda]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 Wtf is that supposed to mean? World is on 5 platforms (including next gen platforms), MHGU is literally on one platform. Make a better argument.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@Aesieda mh4u sold 4-5 million units world wide and mhg/gu sold like 1 million.

[@sparirata]

I found this video completely by accident and boy was it an absolute treat! Gonna swallow all your videos over the weekend and then hate myself wish me luck

[@oldcowbb]

wyvern riding has a lot of rough edges, every monster-monster interactions built-up from previous game are completely destroyed by this new mechanic

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Sunbreak will probably fix that by making monsters more resistant to it lmao.( still a fun mechanic tho)

[@spacetaco048]

What the hell. U make me go to bed so late. I was like "oh it's time for bed ima watch a little bit of this video to see what it's about and if I should watch sometime" *_Literally 40 minutes later here I am going bed late for the 9th time in a row when im trying to reverse this_* How dare you make a good 40 minute video.

[@Ed-1749]

The game do be some good fun, but it does feel weird having every weapon having a bunch of moves with invincibility. Makes the game feel like a QTE more than an actual fight. "press A to not die".

[@meikahidenori]

The weapons have I frames mostly due to some of them required build up and getting flinched or hit out of them it can fustrate some people. An example is old Hunting Horn - many stopped playing it in G rank as when you did recitals or try to pull off your notes you either had to go defensive and run away from combat or get constantly flinched/hit out of the animation trying to pull off your combos. It's a aggressive weapon so having to stay on the edges of combat rendered you partly useless. While some complain about the Rise horn, it is 100% aggressive all the way through which is something the weapon should be. We'll find out how much this matters with Sunbreak, but I don't think you'll see a drop in HH users in G rank for the first time in the series.

[@Ed-1749]

@@meikahidenori Hunting horn kinda deserves it, yes, but sword and shield? Dual blades? Almost every weapon in the game got these tools, whether they deserved it or not.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@Ed-1749 tbh, all weapons having invincibility is just a portable thing.

[@hotshotroom964]

They just gave every fucking weapon a counter for some reason

[@meikahidenori]

@@Ed-1749 I've never known the other weapons to not have I frames either. Infact alot of them don't have as long a animation as the HH recital so you either don't get flinched as often or your really bad at timing with them in the older games if you couldn't take advantage of them. 4U even had I frames when you were lying flat after being hit in some cases to give you a small grace period as the second you started the getting up animation those I frames were gone. When you got into the harder hunts you got less people using weapons with longer animations because the I frames didn't kick in fast enough to stop you getting knocked around and things like S&S, DB always had good ones hence why many people considered them great for beginners, especially in GenU. Things like prowler didn't get as many I frames but your smaller hit box meant alot of monsters struggled to land hits if you got right underneath and under the legs and since blunt weapons tripped monsters in the older games you could cancel alot of attacks from them that way. I haven't noticed the tripping/toppling mechanic returning in Rise for blunt weapons but when everyone goes for the head to stun it's probably one that's under used if it is still a part of the game, but currently don't think so. (I couldn't get world to function properly on my pc - one day if I get a better one as I do own - so I spent probably way more time with GenU than what was probably healthy with solo weapon runs.)

[@Nilon241]

Coming from a Tri veteran, people were complaining about "dumbed down mechanics" and "easy gameplay" when 4 came out. And YES, there are still people who insist underwater combat was actually FUN.

[@choty7066]

I love the complex maps of world. Makes me feel like exploring the jungle and while i have memorized most of them i still sometimes get surprised by something new

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Fighting in world maps are a different story tho.

[@Spherehead123]

Being a mhfu player, world mapz are cool initially, now its just annoying because of the sheer amount of geometry that youre dealing with. Like man, i just want a mono o mono fight with the monster's own complexity and difficulty...

[@thomasdeguzman1149]

@@Spherehead123 yeah honestly as someone who works full-time, I'd rather just get straight to the action and do as many hunts as I can with Rise. All the slow traversal and tracking just wastes so much time for me. Not to mention in MHW Iceborne, you don't get a travelling mount until much later.

[@thatanonwholurksmoar7386]

33:26 oh boy do I have a story for you on that. I was the exception to that rule. Back when mh1 came to the psp, someone at school was struggling with the resident chicken and I got intrested watching her play the game. Gave me a chance to play it and proceeded to beat it. Sold the game to me a few weeks later because I was eyeing the game a lot while she pretty much struggled and from there I went solo up to fatalis. She cursed me to death because she couldn't figure out how i even got that far while.she struggled with the basic resident chicken. But thanks to her, I got introduced to this fantastic series.

[@psylockeer]

Great review! As a newcomer to the franchise I can see where you are coming from. I'm still grateful those changes were made as I always found monster hunter kind of intimidating in its mechanics (and sadly I don't have much time to play). I do dislike the presence of soooo many paid dlcs and the fact that some rewards are kinda pointless. Also I'm still a noob. I still don't feel confident enough to solo an apex, but I'm getting there. I also bought world/iceborne and I can't tell you how many time I tried to wirebug out of the way only to say: oh s**t.

[@kilnareth7970]

As a newcomer who refuses to look at guides, Rise is a good starting point. It's probably just a problem for veteran hunters, but every monster I faced gave me problems and I had to craft multiple weapons to find out which one worked, search for endemic life that could benefit me in the fight, and actually learn where to hit and know the monster's attack patterns.

[@JodyrJoestar]

@@kilnareth7970 Fully get you. My friend built like 9 armors and 15 different weapons in low rank, while veteran players prob rush trough lowrank with the beginner armor and only upgrade the bone/ore tree. MH fandom really sometime forgets that Capcom wants to gain new audiences with new games 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@JodyrJoestar The problem here is that they just did. World was exactly that. And it worked perfectly. Capcom's most successful game ever. They announced Rise as a return to the older style compared to World, a "veteran's" game, if you will. But it isn't. I don't have any problems with the more streamlined, faster, casual style, but Rise is very clearly *not* a "return" to the old games. It's World with Hunter Arts and even more casual changes. And while that's not inherently a bad thing, Rise was supposed to be... not that.

[@Felixicity]

That entire bit with the diablos planning had me in stitches.

[@steel5897]

Rise is a perfect example on how streamlining too much can destroy a game. People praise the streamlining, until they exhaust the game's content in a week and then complain there's no content. Same story every single time. It gets exhausting dealing with it too, because when you point this out early on you get shouted at as "elitist" or "gatekeeping" by redditors, but you know those people will quit the game in a week along with everyone else so you just shrug...

[@steel5897]

Forza Horizon 5 suffered from the same thing btw, they throw top-tier cars at you like candy from the start and made it so that any car can beat 100% of the content in the game, with difficulty modifiers being 100% optional with no reward, and accessibility options out the ass. Previous games had penalties for enabling these options, but FH5 took it all away, basically the game comes with a game shark and allows you to go ham with it, with no repercussions. The game got a bunch of 10s and awards, and yet no one's playing or talking about it a MONTH later. It's like it vanished from conversation. Devs need to stop making games "accessible", it's gotten to the point of parody now and it's hurting them.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Well, if it looks like elitism and quacks like elitism... You make zero arguments about how the game was made worse, then just state it as if it's a fact, smugly cross your arms and insist you were proven right by some bullshit you don't bother to show any evidence of, and use it as an excuse to feel superior. Come the fuck on. Either make an argument, or just... admit it. Say it with your whole chest. "I AM an elitist gatekeeper, so what? I like feeling special because I have things everyone else doesn't. Yeah, it gives me a stronger sense of emotional validation when the game forces me to play a certain way, because otherwise I feel compelled to burn through it as fast as I can and optimize the fun out of my game." Seriously. Just try it. It's fine. It's a respectable preference, for people who actually just have it openly. As opposed to pretending to be the victim for having an opinion that depends on excluding people, and acting all surprised when people don't like that opinion. More so when you're making a comment about everyone quitting in a week on one of half a dozen videos or so saying they all put in around 200-250 hours into the game. I mean, come on, man. I literally have an auditory processing disorder and my brain cuts out half the words when I listen to spoken language unless I focus, and I was listening to this while doing other stuff. But even so, I can do simple math to realize that 200-250 hours isn't a small amount of time to throw at a videogame.

[@martinaaricgo1029]

Bad take ngl.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@martinaaricgo1029 agreed

[@martinaaricgo1029]

@@steel5897ngl, that post you made reads like a copypasta that is making fun of elitists.

[@Alpheus_09C]

The view at 2:15 is really good ngl... Oh and the backgrounds dope too ig

[@xHideousFoxx]

I've always felt the difficulty of the older games was not intentional. but just a limitation of the time frame they had, the engine, the consoles they were on, etc.

[@neolordie]

they could have made it a lot snappier and fluid, it was a conscious choice to have endlag everywhere

[@Mindful7Kung7Fu7]

u sir deserve a medal

[@Aesieda]

@@Mindful7Kung7Fu7 No he doesn't deserve a medal because he's wrong.

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@Aesieda No argument, just "no ur wrong lol"? Actually, I have a perfect counterargument: No, you're wrong, lol.

[@Aesieda]

@@FelisImpurrator No need to elaborate when the original commenter didn't elaborate on their point either. Bring an actual argument and then we'll talk.

[@uffotrash]

The planning phase IS so fun i agree, even back in world....the pure joy after getting bodied by alatreon and then fatalis several rounds and trying to figure out what to do better each time we went back in...then finally coming together to pull it off and hear that victory music...bliss. I also agree about story aspect, i have some friends new to monster hunter and damn they skip all the cutscenes and only want to go in an kill. its sort of a bummer...theres already flimsy story to begin with, why not enjoy what little crumbs we get to see the monsters out of context of getting knocked to the ground every five seconds lol.

[@ashokrohan7232]

32:09 - not true man. You said it yourself in the video - wirefall making everything infinitely more forgiving - instant potion heals + able to move - every weapon having a really strong counter I mean it is objectively easier than the older games. Sure, you may have gotten better as a player, but that's not the main driving force as to why it's too easy.

[@hotshotroom964]

Exactly it’s mainly the wirefall, it makes being hit have no consequence. Think about it you get to reposition and sheathe every time you get hit then instant heal up. In mhg absolute evasion hunter art was used a lot for that reason and it took a lot longer to charge than one of your three wire bugs do in this game

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Didn’t we have absolute evasion, and would you think that wirefall will get nerfed in sunbreak? Because the temporal mantle got nerfed in iceborne.

[@ashokrohan7232]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 i think it will get nerfed in sunbreak. i hope so. you're right temporal mantle was too forgiving in MHW. but at least in MHW i can just not equip it (as lame as it may sound). i just wish in Rise they would just give us an option to turn off wirebugs. because it's muscle memory at this point to press ZL+B, and people can't simply say "just don't use it". It's impossible at this point. absolute evasion in MHG had to be charged up and it took longer. you had to hit the monster (or get hit) many times to charge it up. you had to EARN the evasion. rise just gives it to you like candy. wirefall cooldown is too short and is thus spammable but you're right. i think sunbreak will most likely balance the wirebug better

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@ashokrohan7232 mh rise is basically every weapon has valor.

[@legendarytat8278]

@@hotshotroom964 Something you neglected to mention is that you have to take damage in order to use wirefall while absolute evasion uses i-frames to evade, so no taking damage there. And also, wirefall is recovery, while absolute evasion is reactive, so absolute evasion technically has a higher skill ceiling, but some hr fights in Rise also takes wirefall into account so you have to strategize about it.

[@evocircuit]

im a new fan to the mh series, with rise being my very first. i dont feel like i have as much leverage to say this as the only other mh game i own that i have significant play time in is gu, but all the differences between old gen and new gen feel very clear to me. as you mentioned with the smaller scope of the game and how the new qol changes compared to old gen, i feel like rise is just meant as a game to have a lot of fun in and crack wide open with the easy armor/weapon making and wirebugs. a friend of mine who has played a lot more mh than i have just likes to make lots of meme builds in rise because of it. it may not be meta, but its just plain fun! i think rise is the perfect entry to the series for new players that are willing to try and stick with the previous games. i went to gu after doing a lot of time killing stuff in rise, like making every dual blades (db gang) and making every piece of layered armor because i like dress up. all the qol that gu lacks in comparison and things like looking up what the key quests are and getting 50 monster broth to make one piece of armor for a completely different monster was very tough to get over, but as soon as me and my friends got into high rank and we could actually SURVIVE against the monsters and kick their asses, you especially feel that sense of triumph and satisfaction. if it werent for gu's mechanics making it a lot harder to play by yourself, id personally put it over rise. i think a lot of your points hit and im very excited for sunbreak and hoping that itll fix the issues that rise has. (not to mention master rank armor for my dress up addiction)

[@MrSpiderspider12]

In my opinion what i don't like about DLC is slow and steady growth of monetized content Examples: -In world/Iceborne the only paid Layerd armor were the DELUXE EDITION ARMOR, also what is the POINT IN SELLING LAYERD ARMOR IN PIECES -In GU you had old monster hunter music you can choose to listen to it and from iceborne you are pay for auditory nostalgia Disclaimer: I don't blame developers for this and I play MONSTER HUNTER since 4U and still enjoy it now WHAT I BLAME is the money hungry higher ups of CAPCOM seeing MONSTER HUNTER becoming a WARM DELICIOUS PIE and wanting more and more slices of It! EDIT: I'm sorry but if we go with "it's just cosmetics" or "MONSTER HUNTER has a lot of content on it's own and DLC is just flavor" makes CAPCOM (a corporation) "Oh so you're ok with dlc? GONNA ADD MORE! ;)"

[@kaosapprentice]

35:51 thanks for your sacrifice... seriously thanks for taking one for the team you brave soul.

[@CaptainEffort]

Disagree with the game only being easier because we’re better. That’s certainly a factor, but not the whole story. Personally breezed through Rise, then went back to 4U and got curb stomped. Even high rank is brutal in that game.

[@chronosoul1837]

Bruh. Thanatos is everywhere in each MH game. @ 13:40 He's always there. Maxed out Hunter Rank at 999 under a week & continues playing the game. Played with him in Monster Hunter Tri, which was my first MH game.

[@thepaladinninjask5154]

This video is awesome. I believe Rise is a great game with a few flaws. Also, I agree that Magnamalo is a silly amalgamation of multiple monsters and that Apex Zinogre is a piece of... work. The way I see it, if they added more tactical elements to Rise the experience would be improved dramatically!

[@-siranzalot-]

Very comprehensive Review which adresses all things noteworthy about the game and the MH community in the Rises context. This is also the only one with which I can agree across the board

[@Himbo_JayK]

Thanks!

[@ShatteredGlass916]

". . . . there's 2 Ansem what ??. ." Don't worry, that's not even scratched the surface

[@Hotdog718]

Ya know, the wire bug should only recharge in battle when you're actively attacking the monster

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

I mean, people used it for traversal

[@hekucarrasco2870]

I do say think that about preparation before hunts and people tell me i'm a MH boomer lmao. Is always nice to see that other people understand what made older MH so special.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Tbh, world has a pretty good middle ground.

[@MrHorst38]

Don't know what game you are playing, but my framerate is constantly utter trash. For example in the desert area where you fight diablos with a lot of small monsters around you get drops to around sub 15 fps I think. Particle effects also tank the framerate hard. GenU which is also 30 fps only feels much more fluent and better playable than Rise on Switch.

[@captainnickname293]

Huh, I've never really seen performance issues on my Switch during the game. I mean, this game runs great for me even compared to most other games on the system, like BotW or DBFZ. Any other games you run into performance issues on?

[@MrHorst38]

@@captainnickname293 Not really, just rise. Maybe you don't play docked. I don't have performance issues in handheld mode.

[@SynysterProjects]

"There's two Ansem's? What?" Oh, no. Oh, no no no.

[@thmistrapillay1811]

Adore Rise, and I think SunBreak is gonna be GOD-LIKE 32:27: Super True and important👌 36:21: SUPER TRUE and IMPORTANT 👌👌

[@ThePageofCups]

This is honestly one of the best expressed critical reviews of this game without digging into the clickbait titles or fake outrage. As someone who's more into the two newer MH than the older ones (with GU sort of in an awkward in-between that I also like,) I understand the appeal of the older titles.

[@Spinexus]

Rise is difficult for me. It literally destroyed my favourite weapon (CB) and it broke the classic prepare, track, hunt, craft loop of all previous monster hunter games. I think Monster Hunter 6 will show if the series is going away from me or not. I really don´t want a super fast paced monster hunter that is broken down to the minimum, hunt and craft.

[@geekjorge]

Guess I’ll add astral chain to my shopping list and play it after rise

[@slommie1649]

When i played worlds its felt very full and had perfectly weighted combat. When I got to elder dragons in rise I was like, "oh." Also wirebug dodges trivialize getting hit and allow the player to be avoid trying.

[@Kastafore]

I dunno I really like the Wirefall mechanic when you're hit. I can't tell you how many times I got frame-trapped by Raging Brachydios like it's Street Fighter.

[@slommie1649]

@@Kastafore I mean its useful but it feels like there are far less consequences to your actions and that hurts the experience imo. Also they bronk my CB SAED

[@Kastafore]

@@slommie1649 Wait what happened to SAED?

[@slommie1649]

@@Kastafore Basically pinpoint hitboxes and usually wont hit monster parts not touching the ground.

[@Kastafore]

@@slommie1649 Huh that's the first I'm hearin' of that, been using CB for a couple weeks and it seems fine but I could be overlookin' it somehow.

[@benmoran4]

I agree with a lot of what you said but something I feel I need to mention is how many people call the game easy but really have very little skill and take forever to kill the monsters. I agree it is very easy to complete quests in this game, but the skill is learning the monsters behavior and learning to exploit it and kill it quickly. The vast majority of people I have played with under HR like 300 are still quite bad at the game and make hunts take much much longer than when I play with my higher rank friends. If you intention is just to complete each quest once then yes the game is easy but if you intend to replay quests and learn the monsters inside and out it still takes a lot of time and practice

[@ExRetribution]

I don't know man. I remember hitting several walls on the past monhun games even in world. Rise felt so easy because there is so much player agency compared to other games.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

World was considered easy, even mh generations because mhgu players play world, even before the mh4u players played mh generations and think it’s easy lol.

[@YonaSuzuki]

funny and insightful, i feel called out about my longsword playtime but im glad i watched

[@KingRoturix]

The video says is 40 min long but it felt like 5 min. i really did enjoy it. I understand everything you said after I went back to play 3U in years. Old MH has its charm and I still love it for that. 5th gen MH did change a lot that I'm not a fan of but I do enjoy it the same way.

[@WH40KHero]

16:27 Probably the best, most concise yet elaborate explanation of why planning in Old Gen MonHun makes the game so much more engaging and fun then Worldborne and Rise

[@Funnylittleman]

This was my very first MH game and I started after 3.0 came out. For a new comer, it was SUPER intimidating. The game throws a lot of info at once at you and doesn’t explain some concepts very well (or at all). It had a huge learning curve. I fought through it and learned to enjoy it. I picked up MH Stories 2 and this game is more my style. A bit simpler, not quite as grindy but still plenty of grind, a cutesy and relaxing atmosphere.

[@smillerbee8115]

Yes, that preparing part before going to hunt is what make me feels like really going to hunt a monster

[@idonotmakevidsyet]

Rise is definitely not game of the year material. As a vet this game just has too many issues getting in the way of it being GOTY. MH4U was the best MH change my mind.

[@deaj8450]

I don't think it's possible to change anyone's mind on their favorite Monster Hunter, but FU and 3U are my favorites.

[@kurosan0079]

@@deaj8450 True. While I think World: Iceborne is the GOAT, it can also be someone else's WOAT. Every MH fan has their own ranking and there's nothing that will change their opinion, unless the next game shakes things up.

[@4thQueen]

You appear to have some incredibly well articulated and thought out opinions, but unfortunately your lack of reverence for the kabuki-style monster intros means your entire thesis goes in the trash.

[@mrbigglezworth42]

The game is vibrant and colorful, but definitely lacks in detail and, well, life in the environment. By that I mean it's missing all the little endemic life that makes the world feel like a living ecosystem World had. That's a personal bugbear for me, but doesn't detract from the core of hunting monsters and crafting gear. On that front? Every weapon feels pretty damn great, with my mainstays of Swaxe, Glaive, and LBG being better then ever. Right now it feels about the same as base World in that it's got stuff, but I just wish it had more, and hopefully Sunbreak has that, because Iceborne was an absolutely great expansion to an already good core. ALSO Rampages lose their luster when, to date, I've never lost a single one and the rewards aren't much better over single monster hunts. Hopefully that's also fixed.

[@wakapout630]

I like the review it's pretty well made, I do agree on certain points : The preparation for a hunt is basically gone and it's pretty sad sure it's better for noobs to be able to change weapons or to restock after going on a quest without potions. But added that plus the temperature mechanic where you have to take drinks with you to hunt efficiently in difficult environnements, I get that it can be annoying but it's part of the charm of the game in my opinion it's really much more immersive. Also I loved the multiplayer experience in 4U which to this day in all of the games I've played was the best experience I've ever had. To achieve the same vibe there is one mecanic that in my opinion is not good : being able to join a quest without joining the room of the host. Being able to join a quest after it started is necessary I think but it should have some restrictions or features either : not being able to join the quests of people in a room you aren't in or after a quest that you've joined finished every players come back in the same room so that you can still have easier time finding people to play with but with the ability to interact with strangers. My last complain about the game is it's lack of content unfortunately and I've played a non G rank game before : Generations. That game wasn't my favorite, in fact, it's the opus I've played the least, but one thing that was awesome with this game is that even without G rank the content was way bigger. In my book a monster hunter game has to have some subspecies and I was pretty disappointed not seeing them in this game as of more quests with a lot of monsters. Anyway expects these points I truly enjoyed Rise (as of writing this I sank 350 hours in this) and the content shortcoming will be fixed with sunbreak I think. So yeah I'd love to see the multiplayer experience bring people together more and getting rid of restocking during a quest and we'll have a perfect monster hunter in my opinion (at least the next best thing).