Monster Hunter Wilds - Focus Mode has Strange Problem...

[@everybodylovesaids]

Definitely make them aware. I did my time playing claw on psp I'm to old to start doing that shit again

[@iq_damn4397]

Agree, let's not glorify bad design choice

[@ShadowNerd92]

Funny enough this is almost perfect for the Razer controller i just with paddles on the back and up top that can only be assigned as existing buttons.

[@JoelLinus]

Then learn how to use gyro.

[@mkv2718]

@@JoelLinuswhile this 100% better, not all platforms and controller have access to this. basically, anyone using any Xbox controllers (or xbox in general) don’t have gyroscopes i their controllers. the Kinect gave Mocrosoft motion senser ptsd apparently.. …but yeah, if you have access to it, you should 100% use it. it’s not an issue for PS5, but pc users should make sure to get a controller with a gyroscope in it. so Sony of Nintendo controllers, or for 3rd party i’ve had good results with 8bitdo.

[@c0ur5ge4]

cant claw cause of the trigger buttons

[@nevardool13]

For a M+KB player, i find the issue with random actions being bound to other actions. So you are forced to use 1 button for more one thing with no way to separate them. In world this made things like slinger aiming a pain. Let us bind things more freely especially since it wont conflict. Also let us bind modifier keys like an MMO. I want to press Alt+wheel to scroll my ammo so my keybinds arent different between melee and ranged. Or can alt+1/2/3/4 for quick items rather than 6/7/8/9. Im sure i can use third party tools to macro it, but that shouldnt be required.

[@jinoflies]

feeling this a lot. I've been having loads of weird issues with the shortcuts on m&kb, I found that for some reason you can continue to press item use OR confirm to keep using items from the shortcut which feels REALLY bad when trying to quickly grab something with the hook slinger after drinking a potion

[@baconberries8097]

YES! It's like you bind your keyboard and mouse to a button on a controller, not an action in the game! In iceborne, there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to press two different buttons to aim your slinger on those weapons that need to. I played the beta on an Xbox, but I'm gonna get it on PC, so this is disappointing to hear. Although they did add kbm support for consoles, or at least xbox, so good on them for that.

[@nevardool13]

@@baconberries8097 Sadly i didnt get to test much over the beta weekend due to my rig not holding up well, but seemed like the keybind menu looked the same as in IB. One crazy default keybind i did manage to see was for HBG where if you wanted to manually guard its rightclick + R + F....

[@NihongoWakannai]

@@nevardool13 you could do this with an AHK macro script

[@elfireii328]

Same. It’s a big annoyance to me for hunting horn since I always accidentally roll when trying to put down an echo bubble.

[@CRBRUSX]

That's my main gripe with IG. I can hold circle while I do my triangle attacks but if I do that I cannot move my camera at all in or out of focus mode unless I do finger gymnastics on my controller.

[@IThinkIStoleYourSandwich]

Left index finger on left stick, left thumb on right stick. It's awkward at first but no real crazy stretching or twisting

[@khaild7856]

@@IThinkIStoleYourSandwich YOU ARE TROLLLLLLLLINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG. THAT'S EVEN WORSE THAN CLAW GRIP.

[@kozako2253]

@@IThinkIStoleYourSandwicheww

[@Rain1]

There is an option kind of like that where, when you press focus mode it will Target your current target.​@@NoiosoBearPews

[@joshuadehler5039]

Gyro

[@DarkHunterCXV]

I believe that this is intended or a unavoidable limitation of focus mode. The Carge Blade for example has this new move in focusmode in axe mode called someting like 'fade slash' which requies you to pull the left stick back an press triangle. The left stick can then not be used as camera controll because it is bound to the weapon attack. Thats what i think at least. I use claw so I didn't even know you can aim with the left stick until now 😅

[@-siranzalot-]

This. Charge blade now has way more moves to reposition during combos. If the left Stick would also be used as a camera control during those, it would render the left stick inputs ambiguous. The alternative - Having the mapping switch back and forth mid combo - would likely be more confusing than helpful. Mouse doesn't have this restriction as it is used for camera movement anyway.

[@vaporizel]

@@DarkHunterCXV gs third attack doesnt allow left analog control for aiming. need claw finger tech

[@sovietspeago]

The charge blade fade slash, along with the new gunlance movement with shelling, the lance movement with poke and the existing lance directional guard dash can all be done outside of focus mode. Naturally forward is the only one easily done when not in a combo, but they are not locked behind focus mode as I have seen many people assume - they are just enabled by it.

[@shock6228]

@@-siranzalot- The only way I see for them to actually "fix" this is by enabling gyroscope on the controller, but then that creates a whole lot more issues when you're not using focus mode. Maybe have a specific gyro when pressing L2? Honestly don't know how they would tackle this

[@fence_seagull]

@@shock6228 You can enable gyro when holding L2 in the options, actually, at least on PC with a DS5 controller. The gyro controls are actually pretty good.

[@Mecheka]

Insect Glaive feels really awkward with focus mode. But you NEED focus mode! Not being able to rotate my character while charging the new B (xbox) attack is really annoying. Maybe the play here is to switch to Keyboard and mouse OR for the developer to implement a hard-lock on system.

[@Mecheka]

Another solution could be remapping all face controls to shoulder bottoms. It's ugly as hell, but it would be effective

[@sobervision1049]

I appreciate the creativity with the charged input but why couldnt they at least just map the charge attacks to a 2-button input like SAED? IG has the weirdest button management in this game so far and I think thats really whats hurting it for me which sucks cuz I like it alot.

[@UneditedChildbirth]

Switching to claw grip when needed becomes second nature after you get used to it but requiring it for the majority of play time is bad. Just let us map attack to shoulder buttons, it should've been an option since world tbh

[@midgarzolom26]

I switched to kb/m when I found that I could not do my rotation without claw gripping and found that its a LOT better. AND it won't give you carpal tunnel!

[@Nami-Swwaaan]

Or.....or.......or remove the charge system and make it a one tap since you already collected all your juice

[@lanecruiser6535]

100% agree. I noticed this myself straight away, thanks for making a video about this. What bothers me is, Left stick moves the camera slower than Right stick for some reason, so even the moves that have Left stick camera movement enabled, you’re still better off using the Right. And most importnantly: Left stick is disabled during the TCS animation. The most important use case for focus mode on GS has it so you have to claw grip… So why bother using the left stick at all!?!

[@anyany2021]

Hey Rurikhan, love your content. I'm a gunner, both LBG & HBG, I use bow as well. This may be obvious but gunners don't have this issue since focus mode is enabled by default for us while aiming so we can freely move the reticule & camera in anyway we choose at any time no matter the type of ammo we use.

[@KhangNguyen-ij4xh]

I mean yeah, cause your command attack is R2, while our command attack is Y and B, which absolutely requires The Clutch Claw

[@CupOfJoe91]

I haven’t gotten use to Focus Mode yet but you are bringing up a good point. There needs to be a way for this to be easily done on controllers too.

[@johnwalters5374]

These are serious control problems. I can not imagine this was a conscious choice by Capcom. I really hope this video helps get the word out for a patch. Great explanation of the problem, too!

[@maxmustermann3938]

They likely thought it's fine because they just used gyro aiming or something and didn't think about the fact that many PC players won't have that feature.

[@saithvenomdrone]

@@maxmustermann3938 I’m using gyro on PC. But I also do play claw on every controller game I’ve ever played. So I am not feeling the same issue everyone else is.

[@danilooliveira6580]

I'm actually feeling that the game plays A LOT better on mouse and keyboard compared to World, to the point I think it's a very valid way to play the game now. but I can see how focus mode wouldn't work so well on controller, for controller you are expected to aim with movement, while on mouse you are expected to aim with the mouse.

[@jinoflies]

@@danilooliveira6580 tbh keyboard was always a very valid way to play monhun, the games don't utilize any unique qualities of controllers that make them a superior input method. The games just need a little of binds tweaking to get perfect, even wilds has this factor. so far as a keyboard main wilds plays about the same as world or rise on it (very good)

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@jinoflies for me it plays better, SPECIALLY ranged weapons. just the fact that you don't need to rebind to aim with right click and fire with left click is already a major improvement.

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

i believe this is the intended way they have implemented movement into the weapons based on how it varies weapon to weapon. CB and SA for example have the same problem as GS, but that's because the left stick is used to trigger specific moves in focus mode such as the moving dashes on SA. basically they have reserved the left stick to commands for the focus modes expanded moveset. the reason lance differs is because most of its new moves are not focus moves, they are base attacks or passive attacks like the shield bash on block, so it doesn't need the extra inputs from left stick to trigger new moves.

[@Nora-rb6tr]

this makes sense to me

[@1upchavez]

Whoa I didn’t even know about this issue. As someone who enjoys precise motion aiming in Splatoon, I was really glad to see the option for motion controls in the Wilds Beta. I enabled it as soon as I could (I only have it enabled for focus mode) and It mimics the mouse and keyboard camera control you mentioned, but you can have it on a controller. I know it’s not for everyone, but I think it’s great!

[@gwagner1380]

Splatoon fan here and yeah I can totally agree with ya. I am an IG main and that changed quite a bit my take on Wilds iteration of my main weapon because I was not liking the changes it got. It might not be the cup of tea for everyone but I feel it is better to have motion controls rather than claw gripping a controller. Less hand pain and cramps when I enabled them.

[@1upchavez]

@ it’s so fun with it on! It makes grabbing stuff while riding the Seikret so easy! I just hope that more people warm up to it, though, I understand it can be an issue of motion sickness for some players.

[@notsorrystory]

​@@gwagner1380Damn maybe it's time to embrace the new tech

[@1upchavez]

@ try it out! There really is no downside. I hope you enjoy it!

[@yunglilschillymane261]

​@meatbasedvegan4859you might have steam input enabled. Which could lead to your controller mimicking a Xbox controller which do not support gyro

[@bnasty9384]

Let’s make capcom aware. They r one of the few AAA devs that will listen still

[@esmolol4091]

@@bnasty9384 Are you sure about that?

[@epsilon1372]

@@esmolol4091 Capcom, especially the monster hunter team, is very good at taking in feedback. So yes, I myself am in agreement that Capcom actually listens especially when compared to other AAA studios

[@bnasty9384]

@@esmolol4091yes I am sure of that or I wouldn’t of said it

[@esmolol4091]

@@epsilon1372 Good luck then.

[@Racer-X-090]

@@esmolol4091 😥

[@10XSeiga]

I just move my camera between swings. Didn't even consider this an issue. Every attack has an animation and I move the camera during that animation

[@ZackFairlady]

I think the issue here is when using something like the lance, where weapon attacks are fast and switching your thumb to the stick and buttons aren’t really viable. I’ve had no issue doing this with the gunlance tho

[@Bairyhalls47]

Depends on the kind of weapon you’re using. Take saw attacks from chargeblade which you have to hold the input. Focus mode doesn’t help much. If I use focus mode, I won’t have enough time to register a (hold) input for the attack

[@rivenirvana]

It's clearly an issue because the inconsistency was clearly presented. You just worked around it, and fortunately your weapon allows for it. As the others have said, it depends on the other weapons' movesets.

[@Texasalterr]

Try using charge blade savage axe mode

[@ChuckLorris]

@@Texasalterrexactly, already hated in rise how you need to hold the button, here its just sad because they have focus mode, why dont they implement it properly like when charging the sword

[@sanctified665]

Definitely felt this with insect glaive. Having to hold down circle while using triangle attacks and also needing to adjust the camera is brutal on my hands. I’ve had to do the claw grip but that’s just not a good feeling or healthy for your hands. Tbh I also feel like the targeting cam is also not very good in this game. In past monster hunters I usually rely mainly on target cam by hitting my left shoulder button when I need to. Wilds has the world style target cam which is just not helpful at all. That’s personal preference but your left stick camera suggestion would definitely help avoid the claw grip

[@lurakin88]

Isn't there different types of target cam you can swap between in the settings? I have it off entirely but I swear there were options

[@sobervision1049]

Also not to mention Aerial combat having no left stick input for the camera because you obviously cant move your character airborne anyway. Now I have to hold circle while agressively adjusting my camera for the aerial transitions.

[@JustAnotherMike_]

About Target Cam: In both World and Wilds, you can find an option to turn off "Focus Camera" which toggles it from the auto-target lock-on to the "Target Cam" lock-on from 3U,4U,GU and Rise

[@sanctified665]

@@JustAnotherMike_ oh I actually had no idea about that thank you so much!!

[@AaronALAI]

There is also an issue with key binding, like some keys can have double usage but you can't change them without conflicts 😕

[@CherikoSol]

This was frustrating

[@TyroneTech-01]

@@CherikoSol agreed, I feel like key bindings were ignored a little for some weapons

[@sovietspeago]

The two issues I had were the shift key in focus mode to sheath after unbinding it from focus strike, even tho shift (sprint) does nothing now it still wont let me sheath - however sheathign from focus mode using E (use item key) works fine? I assume this is because shift is default bound to focus strike. The second is with use item on the radial menu, I wanted this on middle mouse - from world/rise muscle memory - but this conflicted with my binding for held focus mode. Which frustrates me since going in and out of focus mode with the item bar expanded to use the radial menu is... pointless? There is no reason for this conflict. Edit: There is also no 'Added Key: Aim Slinger' for gunners only 'Added key: Aim Weapon/Slinger' so the keysbind is always shared. Which begs the question why there is even an added key option for gunner at all, especially since the game does not let you have the added keys for either gunner or blademaster unbound. At least for blademaster the added keys are only for slinger and not focus mode. I would like to have the same controls for my slinger when my weapon is not drawn for both gunner and blademaster but I cannot with the binds like this. Tbh this specific issue could be easily solved by giving us two seperate binds for 'Aim Slinger' and 'Aim Weapon'/'Focus Mode' (for Gunner/Blademaster respectively) which wouldnt conflict with each other if bound to the same key

[@Goefrei0516]

@@AaronALAI This man. Hoping it gets better on actual release. Pulling back my pre-order for now.

[@Dyonivan]

I had this problem with the light bowgun on controller. The B button is to switch to energy mode, but B is also used for chaser shot. Every time I hit B, it was a gamble on which I would actually use.

[@Mortal_Indeed]

For me I just locked onto the monster and press L1 in focus mode for large angle adjustment, this is ABSOLUTE KEY to controller focus mode I think. I only ever do fine adjustment when there is the absolute need to pin point a part i hit with. Still, it will be great for what is said in this video to be implemented better, especially consider I am not one that speed run so my need for pin point attack is a lot less.

[@zaryck13]

Locking the camera seems to be pretty essential to avoid the claw grip , specially for weapons that are very reliant on focus mode. While using lance I kept thinking that maybe the better solution for it would be to adopt the soul style control, right shoulder buttons for attack, focus camera by pressing on the thumb stick, left shoulder buttons for blocking

[@jayng9144]

I guess I will practice on mouse and keyboard on the last day of beta just in case nothing changed at final release

[@breakr16]

I ended up swapping myself. I can’t manage doing claw

[@breakr16]

On another note the mouse and keyboard is smooth for the first time ever. There is a couple of bad presets (who thought of r+f?) but you can mostly bind your way out of these issues

[@oakwooden]

@@jayng9144 Just enable gyro when holding L2. Problem solved

[@leojart]

@@breakr16 I assume it's aiming and clawing while unsheathe? you can use right click + F instead

[@argelblargel]

You're totally right! As a Lance main through Rise, the demo was giving me hand cramps trying to turn with claw grip while poking. I'm so glad we can turn while attacking now, but I wish the control was less painful. I sure hope that's something that can be fixed on full release.

[@juanbarb57]

Yeah man, very interesting topic, I've also noticed this right away after only using the focus mode for a couple of minutes, so much so that I'm actually considering playing Wilds with M&K, something that I used to do in World whenever I played ranged weapons. I also didn't know there were certain moves in which You could rotate the camera with the left stick LOL, I just clawed it constantly, it felt natural after sprinting in Souls games with a pad, it certainly feels like the devs were aware of this issue and were trying to fix it, but the inconcistency is definitely annoying.

[@CalebAdams]

As a Lance main, this has been quite a challenge using the focus mode. Knowing you can toggle it is already a helpful tip.

[@Vell1981]

Yep toggling it solves Lances whole problem you can use the left stick to aim with circle attacks most weapons can't look at IG for example.

[@mathieu499]

100% agreed, if i have to go focus mode for that reticule, let the camera follow the direction i'm inputing on left stick ffs, who can input ABXY combo while moving both stick at once .. it's really not convenient :(

[@Layn2321]

I have a similar sort of issue that I think is even worse but isn't mentioned anywhere because people seem to have given up on Insect Glaive without trying it too much. They have a new attack where you can charge up the kinsect and have it do a piercing attack to get multiple color extracts at once. With good aiming this can actually frequently net you all 3 colors in one go, greatly alleviating one of the biggest issues with the weapon (getting your buffs quickly to reduce downtime). To do this attack on PS5 controllers, you need to hold right trigger (R2) and Triangle. But this is an attack that sends your bug out like a projectile, so it has to be aimed as well. And aiming needs to be precise to try and get all the colors in one go. Focus mode does NOT allow you to use left stick to aim with this mode either, so the only way that this can be used with any degree of success is with the claw technique, and it makes me so mad. When the weapon has had so much needlessly removed from it (aerial shenanigans, earplugs built into orange buff, etc.) and basic QoL things have gone ignored for generations (such as renewing triple buffs before they expire), having a new move added that would actually be useful hidden behind nigh-unusable control schemes is such a hard pill to swallow.

[@mkv2718]

turn. on. gyro aim. learn to use it. people are weirdly resistant to a definitively better aiming method on controller. gyro aim can be just as precise as a mouse if you dial in your settings correctly.

[@Joshamin2169]

@@mkv2718 Only problem is that not all controllers have gyro. If it was universal I'd agree. Full button remap is the better solution imo.

[@Revonlieke]

There is also an issue of FM removing some recovery frames on dodge-rolls. If you roll forward and backward normally with your weapon out, your character does a 180 degree turn before the 2nd roll backwards. But if you press focus mode you skip the recover animations of the roll and are able to do much faster rolls consecutively. This makes focus mode almost a necessity for certain weapons like the HH that really benefit from lesser roll recovery. But not all weapons have the benefit of this so it creates this weird inbalance between weapons where some weapons benefit from it a lot and others don't

[@shock6228]

I agree that it's a problem, personally I somewhat circumvent it by pressing L1 so that I snap the camera back to the monster (so hold L2 and then tap L1 when needed). To be fair though, it doesn't fully resolve the issue when I want to hit a specific part of the monster (mostly Rey Dau because he's the only monster big enough for now). Hopefully they find a way to smooth things off for controllers players...

[@ernjdasdd]

I appreciate bringing this up as an issue, but can we PLEASE also bring up the forced radial menu issue aswell? I really REALLY dont want to be locked out of using my camera when selecting items. I want to use classic camera and item bar like in previous games including World which introduced the radial menu which allowed you to disable it.

[@mkv2718]

did you check the options menu? seemed like there were plenty of options pertaining to how the radial me works, same as World and Rise.

[@ernjdasdd]

@mkv2718 there were options on how to operate it, but not to remove it

[@atutahi]

This can almost be entirely solved by mapping attacks to R1 R2 and I wonder if they need to rethink their default button binds and UI flow through

[@spooky8662]

I agree big time. Dark souls has the button setup to not need lock on, and it has lock on. Monster Hunter has a button set up that gives you less control over the camera, yet it has no lock on. (I think no lock on, shoulder buttons for attacks is the best for game design. 1st person shooters figured that out a long time ago)

[@N4tschoss]

I understand what you two are saying, but I have to disagree. I played Nioh with that setup and put countless hours in. Later, I realized how much of a pain it is to get the combos right with the triggers. Now I know not every weapon in mh is heavily focused on combos and the gameplay is slower, but still. But they could implement the option to choose between these two.

[@spooky8662]

@@N4tschoss I definitely think they should just let you key bind the entire controller like you can with keyboard

[@charlieprince8671]

@@spooky8662 this is the solution. I don't know why they won't just let us freely bind.

[@F-aber]

That would only work if the game didn’t have attacks that trigger when pressing Y and B at the same time, it’s not a problem with face buttons, but with R1 and R2 it is because they are two different kinds of buttons so pressing them at the same time feels weird

[@iraqnid5013]

you're absolutely right, it definitely feels like an oversight. would recommend passing it along

[@IrisSaiya]

As someone who plays Mouse and Keyboard, my only real issue with Focus Mode is there's no perfect key for me to bind it to. My side Mouse Buttons are bound to some attacks and other things, and there's no good left hand keys that still let you have full control over your Hunter besides Shift/Space, which are obviously taken by the important Sprint/Roll. I also don't like to have it set to Toggle, so I've currently got it on C which means moving right during Focus just isn't gonna happen. I wrote it in my Survey, but I wish they could add an option to have Focus Mode activate on Shift while your Weapon is out, and Sprint as normal when it's away, even if that means disabling the weapon sheath on pressing Sprint, and if I want to aim while my weapon is away I can use a secondary keybind for that. Seems like a complicated setting to add but I couldn't think up any better way for me to really enjoy using Focus Mode, currently as a KbM players it's my biggest gameplay gripe. Nice video as always!

[@maxmustermann3938]

Use the toggle option. I get you don't like it but that solves your issue.

[@incrediblegenki8416]

@@maxmustermann3938 i dont think you can toogle it on mnk i think its controller only as far as im aware

[@EloNis93]

@@incrediblegenki8416 You can. On default mapping its on Alt key. It kinda feels like KnM is simply superior to gamepad if your playing on PC because you have full control over your attack direction at all times it seems. Im currently trying to learn the KnM in Wilds as i used to play on gamepad and its crazy how good that is. The only downside is that you have to remember to toggle it off when you try to do things like sprint on Sekrei or carve a carcass, cos for me that was creating some confusion as the inputs change slightly if you have focus mode toggled.

[@DirtyPandaMTB]

@@EloNis93 I found this out by accident but I’m happy with alt 😂

[@denodagor]

@IrisSaiya Meanwhile I put mine on Toggle and I'd love if it would cancel when I press Sprint. I'm so used to just holding sprint to sheathe and run away with one press but if I have it toggled on it won't let me sprint and I have to press the toggle button again before sheathing. Really hope they improve it.

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

As long as they allow the option to always adjust the camera with left stick whlle in focus mode, that could be all it needs. Otherwise, the micro adjustable attacks vs the movement attacks are all the same as before with probably new additions more or less.

[@brewhaus_]

I feel like the left stick should always turn the camera to keep it consistent even in cases where there is a movement option in the attack. Just to keep it consistent and make it make sense in my brains muscle memory. Just release focus mode to do movement or swap it to the right stick in focus mode.

[@zuxx00]

Honestly, I still play the game like Monster Hunter World. I don't really use focus mode to aim at the monster that much. Just the good old fashion face the monster and start attacking. I'm a CB main, and most of the time I only use focus mode to aim my AED/SAED. If I REALLY need to move the camera while pressing buttons I just claw it, and I don't really like using the claw, but that's just how it is.

[@FreaK1261]

You can just press L1 to turn the camera to the marked monster instead of using the right stick in focus mode

[@Bukkets264]

Isn't that just in lock on mode? (I don't use it so ive forgotten)

[@GASA1997]

Yeah but then you’re forced to aim at the center of the monster not the head, arms, or tail.

[@Roxlimn]

Growing pains, of course. What we're seeing here is Capcom trying to have BOTH a first person-style MELEE control concept married to a fighting game melee concept and then marrying the controls so you can intuitively swap between them in real time. That's frankly insane and super ambitious. The fact that it works as well as it does shows a good understanding of brawler game design and controls. I do think a bunch of the buttons can be remapped for various weapons so that they make more sense, but it'll involve more than just thinking of each mode separately! You'll have to think about having TPS controls in first person and vice versa and having each mode be kind of a hybrid. For Charge blade, the left analog stick has to be motion-mapped in Focus Mode when pressing the circle button because that allows you to Sliding Slash from neutral, which is a massive deal for CB users. So for the control scheme to work with the control flow for combos, it has to be camera-mapped for triangle inputs but motion mapped for circle inputs while in Focus Mode for Sword Mode attacks. The reverse has to be applied for Axe Mode, as the triangle attacks in Axe Mode move, but the circle attacks don't, so in Focus Mode while in Axe Mode, the circle attacks are camera-mapped, but the triangle attacks are motion-mapped. Clear as mud?

[@Dyonivan]

Honestly, the game is becoming increasingly difficult to play as a disabled person. Every weapon now has multi-input attacks, and that can be a major challenge for someone with hand disabilities. Take hammer, for example - big bang now goes into mighty big bang by going B -> B -> B -> R2 + Y + B -> Y + B. That R2 + Y + B is difficult to press altogether with one hand.

[@ehrerik3786]

And as a hunting horn main, this R2 + Y + B is my parry, which is the worst decision ever capcom.

[@petercottantail7850]

insect glaive has it the worst, every move in focus mode lets it do extra, besides the added benefits of aiming, so you are always holding focus mode down, the cherry on top, you have to HOLD circle down to charge a move, and can be done while you're attacking, so left trigger circle and then every other button you need, i managed but my right hand was cramping after an hour it was rough

[@10XSeiga]

That's tough and solutions for this would be appreciated but developing options for the myriad of human disabilities is a difficult ask for any game developer. They do as much as they can without fully retracting from the main game.

[@Rain1]

Switch focus to toggle ​@@petercottantail7850

[@Such_Am_i]

What weapon do you use anyway? Curious. Just trying to think what weapon would be easiest to handle with 1 hand.

[@joshrolfs9520]

I absolutely believe like this is a problem that should be resolved. Speaking for CB, trying to use focus mode with many attacks and especially with the savage axe holding felt discordant and unintuitive I'd like to offer an argument against the comments suggesting that this is a necessary limitation of focus mode due to new movement-input attacks in focus mode. Look at GS charge slash. In focus mode before the attack, left stick is used for movement control as normal. Once a charge slash begins, left stick switches to camera control to redirect the attack (an advertised feature of focus mode). So the function of the left stick while in focus mode toggles between movement control outside of the attack animation and camera control during the attack animation. Movement inputs for directional attacks occur *with* the attack input, not during the attack animation. So toggling the function of the left stick in focus mode for *every* attack (instead of only limited charging attacks) would still allow for the new focus mode movement attacks since you would be back to movement control once your previous attack ended. Not in an attack animation: left stick controls movement and allows movement attacks. In an attack animation: Movement inputs do nothing. left stick controls the camera. Focus mode feels gimmicky right now. If this change was made, it would feel more like the key feature of combat I suspect Capcom wants it to be.

[@ajschwartz3924]

As a souls veteran the claw grip is second nature to me so i get your point for this but I dont seem to be having any issues with focus mode atm

[@johnny_shikadance6728]

Lance main here: thank you for this. I didn't know how to articulate this exact issue with the focus mode. Its especially more of a challenge with lance than it is with other weapons since lance is such a precise weapon.

[@my_username_was_already_taken]

Lance has been a frustrating nightmare for me to play. I'm so used to the snappy responsiveness and precision of the weapon from World and Rise, so now having to rely on focus mode for that precision and it's not even as precise as I want it to be? It wouldn't be as bad if I could have my camera follow the head or specific body part but then I feel like at that point the game is almost playing itself for me. I've never felt so disappointed in my favorite weapon before, I'll either have to learn it on MKB or just pick up a new weapon altogether

[@XiasIV]

PSP reference 1:56 ??? 🤯

[@jacobharold3204]

Just a head up that you can turn more than 90 degrees between your first and second hit of TCS using focus mode correctly, you can do similar broken stuff on every weapon, making focus mode a complete broken QoL in this title, so they really need to fix the control of focus mode on controller.

[@morofingo]

Yes! Forward this concern to the team. I main Charge Blade and it’s frustrating to use focus mode aiming with it.

[@joshuadehler5039]

Gyro

[@RasenShot]

I personally didn't bother using focus mode besides attacking wounds. What annoyed me was that the savage axe attack that follows the wound attack with RB usually misses because the monsters moves awkwardly, missing a lot of potential damage.

[@mike35424]

Yes! Finally, someone is talking about this. I thought I was doing something wrong with my Charge Blade. They should absolutely fix this. Please forward to the CM!

[@GunslingerKFG]

Back buttons on the controllers could easily fix this problems in future gaming. next console generation could have the back paddles on all, not just elite controllers, as an option. so u can have triangle and circle programmed to the back und control the right stick, with ur thumb.

[@maxmustermann3938]

You can buy pretty good but cheap controllers nowadays with extra buttons. Like the 8bitdo Ultimate 2c, it's just 30€. This one has additional shoulder buttons (instead of back buttons or paddles) which I bound to Y and O. That one isn't for PS though

[@Boss-lp9ce]

Back buttons should be a standard, it’s true. But this problem has been solved buy many games by using shoulder buttons to attack. Just look at FromSoftware games.

[@MHVideos777]

I believe the intended use for the Toggle Focus Mode feature is to tap it, make camera adjustments, and untoggle tactically. I was already doing this with the default hold option - you don't need to be in Focus Mode 100% of the time, only to aim your attack. You will be toggling it and untoggling it (or holding and letting go) as a "weaved" input during all of your combos and movement while fighting. It's actively worse for mobility to stay in Focus Mode after you've already aimed your attack and initiated the attack.

[@RaptureSR]

Definitely an issue. I noticed it heavily when switching between weapons on controller. I started with Lance on controller and thought focus mode was useless. Swapped to Great Sword, and I could 180. Couldn't figure out why. Realized I needed to use the right stick for certain attacks, but thought it was stupid because it required a claw grip. Tried mouse and keyboard, and literally every skill worked how I expected it to. It needs to be fixed.

[@augstradus]

IMO this needs to be addressed, I hate differences between input mediums and this is a big one. Btw one of the cool things about Destiny 2 and controller, they basically let you do anything. Want to have Shoot on left DPad long press? There you go. Emote on R2 Double Press? Why not? I want that for every game

[@deividz93]

Ruri can you please make a video talking about the feeling of the lack of weight and impact some weapons have in wilds? For example the glaive and dual blades doesn't feel as good like they are in world.

[@michaelschuhle7389]

Most definitely a issue with all weapons on controller. I thought I was just doing something wrong or sucking at the game. I played world, rise, and wilds now. This was a non issue prior and you were just committed to all animations. This really has effected the joy of playing when a key new feature that made me excited to finally try great sword was swiftly changed due to this issue along with the lack of power behind strikes. Great observation and this has got to be some of the best content you have put forward. Thanks for the great play test. I'm looking forward to the release and to see how polish the game will become over time. Great beta feedback.

[@Raisuru]

As a M+K user since MH:World, I think focus mode is the future of the genre and they should just make it the default and remove the ability to toggle it off.

[@Golemming]

Not exactly fair to compare left stick to mouse. Because mouse functions as a camera control which is on a right stick. Try to do the same with WASD. Sure, not exactly convenient to do a claw grip, but you don't exactly need it for most weapons, because your commands are pretty muck buffered during a combo, and you can press it and while animations for previous part is going you have plenty of time to ajust camera. Honestly, i can see your point, but i much prefer clear distinction between "movement stick" and "camera stick".

[@GetonthestiiX]

Tldw: it takes you out of lock on

[@rurikhan]

What? This literally has nothing to do with anything I say in the video.

[@Ethman16]

@@rurikhanthey posted that a minute after the vid went live lmao didn’t even watch it

[@phailupe2941]

Bro wanted to be the first comment lmao

[@MonsterHunterEnjoyer-zq2qz]

The real Tldw: focus normaly you have to use the camara stick to move the hunter but it would be better if you can use the movement stick with movement look animations

[@Mayhemtheone117]

I am glad you brought up the issue with the charge blade. I thought I was tripping when something felt off.

[@choppachino]

So, all this time I have been claw gripping unconsciously cause I don’t find any problem with the controls at all at the moment. Funny thing is, lately I have been trying so many different games and they have very very bad control mapping but Wilds is pretty good for me

[@jinoflies]

I really think this might be able to be solved by having flick stick + gyro active for focus mode. This way you get to have normal camera movement like you're used to without focus mode on (also gyro when not in active gameplay is kinda silly) and with focus mode on you're not so strained trying to claw grip or whatever wierdness you might be trying to get your hand to do. I don't have a solution for xbox controllers tho. (microsoft please put gyro in your damn controllers, everyone else does it..)

[@EndersupremE]

I noticed this the few seconds I played with the GS, which is my main. Thx for putting this out there

[@CrackingCritic]

You’re an absolute legend for putting up the controller… I’m new to Monster Hunter entirely and it’s good to see the inputs because unlike everyone else I haven’t memorised every combination and it’s good to see what you’re doing.

[@kommissarleber8527]

I'm playing Wilds exclusively on M+K and it feels optimal for almost all the weapons. I usually just hit the Alt key for locked focus mode once and then just free form all around the monster with basically unrestricted camera. Interestingly, the default settings had the non-locked focus mode on my mouse 4 button, which is totally superfluous there. I just re-bound mouse 4 with R key, which is the guard/morph/etc key. That one absolutely has to be on the mouse so that your left hand is almost exclusively resting on the movement keys. I think M+K really shines for this title.

[@Remosaur]

I tried to play with focus always toggled on, but I ran into the issue of being unable to use any item but slinger ammos. It auto-set a filter restricting which item see in your item menu. So I have to constantly leave focus to use potion and stuff.

[@luigiongaming3959]

Im torn. On the one hand it would be nice if focus mode camera movement was more consistent, on the other hand capcom has done such a great job of making every weapon feel like im playing a whole new game that I'm fine if I gotta work around it.

[@Dan-ps3mq]

"advantage" ... it's still a coop game

[@chronosoul1837]

Those inconsistencies definitely stood out for me, too. Another inconsistency with Focus Mode, that was really annoying with melee weapons, is the inability to adjust the Focus reticle on the vertical axis with the left stick. Trying to readjust the reticle in the middle of an attack on the vertical axis, due to the monsters moving around, made it very difficult to maintain a combo, only because the left thumb would need to move between the right stick & buttons.

[@LeRagna]

Whole heartedly agree, noticed this myself when switched from CB to GS

[@killuah971]

Thanks for putting a name on it. Encountered the same but couldn't put it into words. Just felt kinda weird for movement and didnt try M+KB to actually notice it that clearly. Figured mostly on CB and i think Hammer. Like you said hitting O attacks in a good way sometimes was a pain with the right stick. Hope they just add another option for us (as there are already tons) to change the behavior as it might be situational depending on the weapon/monster we fight. Also would prefer to still use controller on PC as its more comfortable.

[@Jojo_Tolentino]

Thanks for making this video ruri! Playing lance was so hard in wilds due to the camera controls, it’s confusing

[@UrbanBeatz9]

Another example is doing the diving wyvern with insect glaive. Holding circle to do diving wyvern makes it difficult to aim the camera

[@chilrue427]

Thank you! Yes i realized this also while playing Charge Blade! You cant turn the camera while charging the SA ticks. Especially in contrast to GS play this was eminent.

[@xleaselife]

Absolutely worth pointing out to them. It will become a major pain point very quickly once the game fully releases if there isn't complete parity across all weapons and the two control schemes.

[@CodinskiSchwartzando]

I agree, the inconsistency is weird. It wasn’t a problem when I ran hunting horn, but that’s more a consequence of hunting horn’s moveset and my experience with it.

[@statesminds]

When i learned i could toggle it i was happier with it. But doesnt work for every weapon. People with ps5 dualsense and like gyro can also use it but i dont like that. Also prefer xbox controller

[@pasta_boi8266]

During the beta I personally used gyro controls for focus mode. That was really helpful since it was way more natural to do than a claw grip.

[@gegeplombier]

Only seeing the examples given in the video, an hypothesis may be that it depends on the "width" of a combo. So, generally, a charged attack will trigger the unlocking of the horizontal movement in Focus Mode ; then, the slash combo with GS cover a certain horizontal area, just as the general combo for the charge blade whereas the poke with the Lance is much more narrow. So most non charged swipe attack may not unlock the horizontl movemement given that there is more chance to hit thus less adjustments with left stick (which remains the basic input for redirection) ?

[@Ketsuekisan]

I thought something seemed off when I turned the left-stick camera movement on and nothing happened. It's because I was using Charge Blade. I've been claw-gripping Monster Hunter games forever, so this isn't that big of a problem for me, but they should really fix that if they intend for you to aim with the left stick in Focus Mode.

[@MasutaMJ]

Had no idea this was an issue. Mainly use hammer. Good on Rurikhan for doing the work.

[@proudlarry8225]

Welcome back Claw Grip! The true Monster Hunter Veteran.

[@Icredivm]

As a Hammer/SnS/Lance player, I dont really see a problem. Do what you seem fit, but it is more of a non-issue. Would be funny tho, if the free aim on MKB is the oversight, not the other way round

[@ehrerik3786]

This video makes me happy that I'll mostly play the game along my best friend and that he play weapons with far more value in their focus attacks so that I never have to bother with focus mode at all.

[@--ginebra3589]

You can almost turn 180 in the middle of TCS with focus mode.

[@leki674]

Yea, thanks for pointing this out Ruri. I couldn’t pinpoint the issue like you did here but this is why lance feels so weird when I tried it. Great vid!

[@Pumpkingamingzz]

As a charge blade user I 100% agree and would love this to be fixed 🙏

[@lindstromra]

In my experience with this, I know some weapons have different animations depending on the direction your holding your left stick. Like the charge blade you were using as an example. In axe mode, left or right with triangle are different attacks swinging either left or right. Maybe I don’t want to look left when I’m trying to get my left swing animation. I know toggle is an option for focus mode, but if you let it go you can look around faster and press it again and you will attack in the new direction you are focusing. It’s like if you were playing a shooter and always looking down the scope, you don’t do that. There might be an easier way they can come up with, but I think it works as intended with those different animations in mind.

[@sirsmarf]

I agree, the biggest issue is that it isn't as accessible for non M&K players, and some people aren't going to be able to claw grip easily, especially if they don't or haven't played games that benefit a ton from claw grip. If they make it so that the moves that have movement implemented into the left stick don't move the camera, but ones that are mostly static do allow you to turn it with the left stick, I think that'd feel amazing. Hopefully it is possible for them to make that change easily, but I understand they are two very different input methods.

[@Arkyuu]

I only learned about this when I played Lance then I realized the left stick becomes a camera control when I am doing the charged poke with circle. But I agree, Ruri. Focus mode should I allow us to free move the camera with the left stick as long as the attack do not require a directional input

[@georgewashington7533]

I literally control savage axe charge blade by holding L2 with my left ring finger and reaching over to the right stick with my left thumb for camera, while using my right hand to hold circle/triangle for my swings. Its more comfortable than you’d think but clearly theres a problem when this is my best solution. Reminds me of trying to play monhun back on 3ds with the awkward camera movement lmao. Also worth considering is actually using the lock on in either mode, which I also have not used since 3ds. Only reason I don’t like it is it aims everything to the middle of the monster, meaning you cant really focus parts, which is a problem because wounds are a super important factor now too.

[@Timberpelt]

I knew exactly where you were gonna go with this video!!! I'm facing this issue with charge blade especially! It makes sense that your circle attack, being your fade slash, would allow you to input direction on where to slide, but I would like for it to then switch the left stick to allow you to turn the camera after you begin the attack because, the fade slash can have your character change the direction they are facing by the end of the attack!!! Also just like the great sword circle combo. The charge blade triangle combo does NOT have directional inputs! Therefore you should be allowed to rotate the camera while committing to those attacks, but you can't! Aughhh I already submitted my beta survey response so I can't speak on it but oooough, this sucks!

[@Timberpelt]

I also agree with the notions that the button mapping for insect glaive is not great too!!! I loved insect glaive, charge blade, and gunlance in world, those are my big 3. But not being able to aim the kinsect to do charge sucks!!! Why can't we charge the kinsect by holding r2 while aiming to send out for extracts? You hold R2 for a longer duration and it resets the charge anytime you hit triangle or circle, so there's basically no reason to have to hold triangle. Also having the R1 button to shoot a marker is also awkward and arbitrary! Why can't it be triangle + circle to shoot a marker or L2 like it was for Rise? If you activate kinsect aim mode first then you shouldn't be allowed to enter focus mode unless you hold the focus mode down first, during which, if you are holding R2 you remain in focus mode until you let go. But there wouldn't be a point because if you hold both L2 and R2 you can only send out/retrieve your kinsect and you'll be aiming with the right stick and have a reticle anyways. It doesn't make sense! As for the tetraseal slash and the rising slash, as well as wyvern dive, it absolutely sucks to have to hold the face button and have to rely on gyro and or having focus camera (monster centered in screen) instead of gyro. I tried IG with focus camera in world and it ruins your ability to reposition effectively especially if you have input 2 (left stick relative to the hunter rather than camera) because everything is moving around too much for you to keep track of which direction you should move the stick. (for aerial combat but I guess that isn't really relevant now outside of the first dodge and circle attack) I don't want to have to change my game settings every single time I want to switch weapons just to be able to play optimally! Not unless they give me the ability to adjust the settings for each individual weapon and keep it that way for those weapons! If a weapon attack has a movement mechanic where a directional input results in a fade/directional swing, it should allow you to start the attack by pushing the left stick in that direction. From there on, if the attack does NOT have a directional input/ability to move your character with the attack, it should allow you to move the camera instead. The attacks for insect glaive are cool because you can weave it in with your regular combos yes, but as far as I'm aware its going to be a combo finisher most of the time anyways. Insect glaive also DOES NOT have any Triangle + Circle attacks!!! Instead of having it be a charge mechanic it should be a Triangle + Circle input to perform those! The charge is superfluous and serves no purpose other than to emulate FF XVI or DMC style of combat where you prime and attack in the middle of a combo string. If a move has only a BACK directional input, then the camera should still be steerable as well! Like the backhop for the SnS or the SAED cancel! Hold back to initially cancel it, and once that animation starts you should immediately be allowed to adjust the camera with the left stick!

[@Lexgamer]

In the boarder scheme of things, you're 100% right. For me personally, I can still play like normal without focus mode, and I don't have too much issue moving the right stick, then quickly moving back to hit a button, and back to the stick again to slightly tweak aim, etc. Is it as good as PC? No. But as with any FPS that plays fine on console, PC controls for aiming is just a clear advantage, always has been, always will, and no different here.

[@jrod12389]

As someone who is not usually a super optimal or not-picky hunter, I do think this is kind of a big deal and do hope they address this for us controller users in the main game, great find Ruri

[@Raika63]

I prefer M&KB, so I'll leave a comment here for the algo. (Also, focus mode on M&KB feels *great*) I know this isn't directly related to the video, but I was starting the game while watching this, and the start screen is really awesome. Brings me joy.

[@navarrjenkinz]

I play claw on ps4 and will once I get a ps5, so it’s not a huge issue for me personally. However, for someone who doesn’t want to play claw, I fully understand this being a quality of life change that would make a huge difference in casual gameplay.

[@trublood6410]

Bro it's 30 fps on ps5

[@navarrjenkinz]

@@trublood6410Okay? Not everyone can afford a great PC setup. Also, it runs the game at 60fps, not 30. 30 is switch level graphics. Just let people play on the setup they wish. I didn’t ask for your opinion; respectfully it’s rude and annoying.

[@epsilon1372]

@@trublood6410 bruh

[@Zulban48]

Inconsistencies should be remedied and you illustrated it pretty well here. Personally my biggest gripe about inconsistencies isn't about focus mode but rather control method 2. I'm probably one out of the dozen or so people that use control 2, but it's weird that they would change how it works from all the previous games. Using lance as an example, no matter which direction the camera is facing I can hold down on the left stick and press dodge to do the big hop during combos. Holding left on the stick and dodging will make me hop to my character's left even if the camera is looking behind me, which I've gotten accustomed to. The problem begins when you are using the dashing attack. I want to hold down and press dodge to do a quick turnaround but it doesn't work if the camera isn't directly behind my character. Same with side hops, they act as if I'm using control method 1 instead of 2.

[@KOBULT92]

Def needs to be addressed, good find. However all I can think about right now is getting everybody to ring the alarm bells for capcom about performance, we NEED to confirm it will be fixed before launch day.

[@lindstromra]

BTW, if you have the devs ear, being a fellow GL main for years, I would kindly ask that moving wide sweep become an offset move with unique animations for a follow up if we hit it 🙏😁

[@jjy3k10]

In World I would often times make micro adjustments in between button presses or reach my left thumb over to the right stick to adjust the camera mid action.

[@thedarkemissary]

Doesn't make sense on CB, because there is a movement input after every swing in regard to the sliding slash.

[@Que_Pasta]

100% They should address this. I don't want to lose that held damage during savage axe if I have to adjust my aiming while in focus mode.

[@dargothan9678]

I noticed this too. Maining Lance I found that while poking with triangle it's hard to aim using focus mode because right thumb is pressing triangle. I'd love to have an option where you could swap left and right stick while using focus mode. This way I could keep my attacks and be able to look around and aim into specific parts of the monster. Hope this will be added in the full game.

[@NingjaTerdo]

DUDE! I had this problem trying to charge the kinsect for the piercing kinsect shot and realized I had to claw for the most optimal use. Maybe if they could allow keybind of weapon attacks to R1/R2?

[@RuthlessShadowGamer]

Omg I thought I was the only one that thought this!!! I play CB and savage axe didn't make sense as to why I couldn't use the left stick in focus mode! Let's hope capcom change this, otherwise it might be a half baked feature missing potential

[@prettyboyvolf3364]

Love the palico name, it’s like Gaijin hunter’s right there with you!

[@lyotesharaia4829]

The isssue might be that the Mouse camera control during combos is the anomaly while the limitations of the controller camera is the intended experience.

[@rurikhan]

There are no limitations, you can move the camera with the right stick.

[@lyotesharaia4829]

@@rurikhan Ah sorry, i misunderstood. I blame my Gunner brain XD

[@RedBeard-qw4hc]

You're right I did notice that too and thought that focus mode should just allow you to turn the camera with left stick on all weapons

[@celeste5932]

Yeah, send it to them ASAP. Great find! ♥

[@RazeIII]

Read the video title - instantly knew what this would be about. Yeah I play on PS5 so I dodge this mechanical flaw by using the gyro feature. But other than that I would recommend console players get a controller with at least 2 customizable back buttons, unlearn probably 10+ years of muscle memory and get blasting that focus mode