Monster Hunter Wilds Weapon Tier List - Best Weapons To Use in MH Wilds Beta Test Impressions

[@darkhero2]

I wanted to take my time with this tier list and not release it just 1 day or 2 after the beta started, though it took me a bit long to finish the video. Of course keep in mind, the tier list is not final as weapons will likely change their ranks once the game releases

[@isaacnajera8823]

Capcom is buffing switch axe, SnS, and lance as we speak while already putting hit stop and glaive bounce that are returning 🎉🎉

[@dragon11742]

Very few people seem to be mentioning it, but they did add the bounce back to the insect glaive and will supposedly be giving it other buffs as well.

[@tiagoh.4120]

As a Greatsword main, i'm very happy with what they did with it in Wilds. Sure it does less damage, but the new moves look so cool and it's somewhat easier to handle. It doesn't feel as slow as in previous games and changing the direction of the TCS in the middle of it is massive so you don't miss the sudden position change of the monster. This game does however feel like a MHWorld 2 and has nothing that reminds me of Rise or Sunbreak. Still hope after Wilds they bring something for a portable console as it's really fun to play monster hunter games while i'm outside the house.

[@chaseatherton5381]

They have 2 different teams working on “main line” MH games and another on “portable line” MH games., for a long time now. You can bet between Wilds and Wilds 2, there will be another portable title (like rise/sun break) . But they are generally a little more arcade-y, which I don’t think is bad and can be really fun

[@tiagoh.4120]

@@chaseatherton5381 Oh is that so? Thank you very much for telling me that, i didn't know ! I look forward to what they come up with, i love to plays Rise and Generations on the switch when i have a break at work. ☺

[@LancerNobu]

Lance: -it is slower, has more animation comitments than in iceborne -a lot of counters like payback thrust and follow up rush are akward to use, for multiple reasons -charged counter thrust is a good contender for hardest to use move (to max effectivness) in the game and its were most of lances damage is -lance's damage is weak compared to other weapons, even cosidering it was the weakest in iceborne in terms of dps, it is espeacially weak here -lance didnt get any flashy new or returning moves -plus a couple of other smaller things +First i wanna say that a lot of the lance changes were good on paper, but they have problems that make them akward or worse than befor to use. As long as these problems get fixed i think those changes could be great. Second. They already told the recent testers to not bother trying lance since it will be recivieng an overhaul till the full game. So it's a bit pointless to talk about lance right now If i were to go by the original ranking system: Currently it is worse than in previous games and therfor a D tier. If they keep wilds lance as it is but fixed all of the small problems then it could be an easy A tier. It still missing the flashy moves and with other weapons becomming a lot more mobile and better at countering, lance really needed something new to set itself apart from the other weapons, which would keep it from S tier in my opinion. The 2 things most lancers associate with lance, the relentless attacking and standing your ground, just arent that unique anymore in a game full of counters and mobility If they fix the smaller problems and give it some new/returning "cool" moves and change it so that i thas it's own unique identity again (since anything lance can do, there are other weapons that can do it almost as well, some even better than lance) then i would give it an S tier It all depends on what they will do wit it from here on out Even though it will allways be my favorite P.S. when i say unique idetity i simply mean something that will immediatly make you think lance. This doesnt actually need to be a change of playstyle but could also be a form of attacking or a gimmick: Just as an example, (not saying they should do any of these) they could focus lance around throwing attacks or drill attacks, while still keeping the stand your ground never stop attacking playstyle. This would certainly be unique and lance already had a couple of drill like attacks in the past

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

I agree and I hope they fix the problems with the Lance I do hope they like my idea for a new combo for mobility. Mobility ideas example - Guard Dash R2: Guard | |--->R2+L+▲: Guard Dash | |--->●: Leaping Thrust | |--->▲: Shield Charge | |--->●: Leaping Thrust | |--->▲: Shield Bash Or R2: Guard | |--->R2+L+▲: Guard Dash | |--->●: Leaping Thrust | |--->▲: Shield Bash (Press) | |--->▲: Shield Charge (Hold) | |--->▲: Shield Bash (On Release)

[@megcomb8838]

"Geez Gunlance, how come Capcom lets you have TWO Wyrmstake Cannons?"

[@nova-animations]

Was actually planning on using the HH as a sub main along with my hammer. Good to see i wont be a backline bard half the time

[@Moondust_Maedae]

as someone who’s first game was rise and was a bow main throughout high rank i’m so happy it’ll actually be playable in wilds

[@kowiiino]

The lance run being slower and it feeling clunky made me a little worried about what state it will be released in

[@Hebinyx]

Trust in the thrust brother, lance already confirmed to receive major upgrade ^^

[@Rift0567]

Already said that its one of 4 weapons getting big changes

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

I hope the feedback does help Lance as there are a lot of problems. I do hope they add some quality of life to it for moves that people don't use. Also adding an option to Shield Charge after Guard Dash.

[@grokashrimp]

Thank you for all the hard work

[@dougdynamo9398]

Thank you for the video. It's nice to know what veterans are thinking regarding certain changes.

[@BatmanBeyondBelief]

He has a lot of good info but i disagree with his analysis of the heavier weapons. He mains IG so it makes sense why he doesnt like the heavy weapons.

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

Yeah there is a lot of problems with the Lance Like being slow (moving slower compared to previous games while Gunlance got more mobility we need a buff to our mobility which I game a few examples below that can help. But reverting moves to the movement values like they were before Wilds like Rise and World would be good. For example hops, Guard Dash, Leaping Thrust, and High Thrust. Next would be improving on moves we don't even see like Guard Thrust and Shield Bash from Guard Dash. Improving these moves or adding them to the move set would be nice. Like Guard Thrust could give us an Agitator skill whenever. Also, more options like Shield Bash on Dadh Attack are as powerful as Sunbreak’s Shield Bash from Shield Charge. The number one issue is that is Charge Counter at the end of a three-pole counter isn’t good and didn't feel like it gave skill to the weapon. So making the move easier to access would be nice. Victory thrust I like them to keep the first part as I use it in the kit a lot surprisingly. But yeah if they do change it I like the first part to stay. Leaping Thrust also needs to be more powerful and not jump forward so much. These are just some of the tone of problems with the Lance. Good things were Mid Thrust, streamlined block system, and Auto Shield Bash (but will say it needs to not throw you off your tempo when using but I want this to say)! Mobility ideas example - Guard Dash R2: Guard | |--->R2+L+▲: Guard Dash | |--->●: Leaping Thrust | |--->▲: Shield Charge | |--->●: Leaping Thrust | |--->▲: Shield Bash Or R2: Guard | |--->R2+L+▲: Guard Dash | |--->●: Leaping Thrust | |--->▲: Shield Bash (Press) | |--->▲: Shield Charge (Hold) | |--->▲: Shield Bash (On Release) |--->▲: Shield Bash (On Release)

[@megabyte_101]

The only thing that I want for hammer is "step smash" from rise please capcom 🙏

[@sevenvs13]

I like hunting horn so I use hunting horn (thank god they didn’t keep that imposter from rise that was not a hunting horn)

[@inigomontoya6968]

A excellent and comprehensive list for the beta. It's a pity beta 2 doesn't have the new weapon tweaks. I look forward to seeing your post launch weapon tier list!

[@Lolatyou332]

Probably going to use HH + DBs for most fights, then gun lance when things get more difficult due to gear imbalance as I'm grinding through the game and hit more difficult areas.

[@teanymonster5227]

DBs for life

[@JustinFretwell]

Db for life absolutely

[@blackdemonrala]

4L

[@teanymonster5227]

@@blackdemonrala

[@dindung182]

for eternity❤

[@Someone-v1n]

GS for life

[@maanavnayak8399]

excited for the main game

[@dividion]

So is the 2nd channel the main channel now? lol. Hope to see you pop off when wilds fully releases always been good monster hunter content here. I can't wait to see how much they change my swagaxe on release.

[@belovedwarrior3192]

My favorite weapons are Sword & Shield and Light Bowgun. But I also plan on playing with the Dual Blades, Insect Glaive, Heavy Bowgun and Bow too

[@SilentHuntress]

You forget to hold the atack button of Charge Blade to take 40+ damage

[@h3nrywhat3ver89]

Im hoping that there's a proper demo released, cuz the gameplay looks peak.

[@FutabaFato]

i started playing MHWI after 2000 hours of playing Bloodborne. so i was used to the small dash and stamina manage... i,m a DB main.. it is easy to use and quite fun. while playing the Wilds beta DB felt slower for me. also they nerfed how the heavenly blade connects, there are a lot of slopes but it looked like the move is not as reliable.. as you mention, maybe Capcom will update a lot of the weapons..

[@hectorlindow7905]

They added the quickstopp back in also the insect glaive can stay in the air now too

[@dibbo9823]

You mustve been doing something wrong with the gunlance focus strike cuz i could move perfectly fine when using it ._.

[@BatmanBeyondBelief]

Im honestly not liking all the animations canceling they added. Feels like its made the damage weapons less difficult to survive and making all weapons more homogenous to the ss

[@ascended8174]

I just wish they called the SnS charged chop something else cus it's not even a chop. Call it something thematic like Helm-piercer or whatever

[@mike_v02]

I watched some speedrun vids that CB, GL, and HBG are at the top at killing rey (without env dmg).

[@Arndinius]

CB is bae

[@iARmusic21]

Is the switch axe still able to latch on and do the zero sum discharge move???

[@kphuts815]

You can zsd it just has different inputs now. There's no clutch claw to latch on though so it will be like base world/risebreak

[@xKingSlayer517x]

Gunlance!! Yes!

[@xKingSlayer517x]

I became a MH enthusiast through Rurikhan and naturally went with GL with Sword N Board as my next weapon of choice. I hope the console version of Wilds maintains a stable 60 on this RE Engine. Keep up the great work on content Dark Hero!

[@primuschill]

Huh, dual blades can just fly now. Neat.

[@kazzinga9605]

my favorite weapon of the open beta was the lance, change my mind. I never stopped attacking and with every normal block i could do damage with the shield and continue my combo, in each hunt i did i only needed to 1 heal once, because i was so focussed to make damage and perfect blocking that nothing coulded stop me. But it's true that i never used anything except the normal block and the 6 poke combo

[@LancerNobu]

First of at let me say, that if you had fun with the weapon, dont let anything in between heaven and hell stop you. It is my favorit weapon and i always love when other people enjoy the weapon even in times where i don't. Further more we already know that lance will get an overhaul till the full release of the game so none of the points i say right now may be relevant at the time of release. With that being said: ->Charged counter was extremly difficult to use to max effectivness and it felt like you had to use it, since nothing in the kit comes even close in terms of dps . ->A lot of lance's attack have higher animation commitments than in iceborne, with the most talked about being high thrust, wide sweep and leaping thrust. ->2 of lance's main mobility options were made super slow. Specifically the guard advance into leaping thrust loop and the charge run without the speed boost. -> some lance counters feel akward to use. Notable are payback thrust and espeacially follow up rush (Follow up rush forces you to run for a certain amount of time befor allowing you to use the finishing thrust or reverse sweep, which usally meant you would miss them or don't hit the parts you wanted to hit. Further more the whole perfect guard into shield bash into heavy thrust into the chrage combo takes way to long. Maybe the heavy thrust should be removed and the damage of the charge simply increased or the animation for the whole combo should be significantly sped up, like the verry similar move in mhgu's valor lance had) -> the shield wiggle animation from perfect guard sometimes messed with the fluidity of lance's other options that use the guard button like power guard and guard advance. ->Perfect guard having less pay off than power guard while being harder to use. There is no high pay off attack you can only do after perfect guard that you cant do after power guard -> Overall lack of damage. Lance in the Beta was slower, has more animation commitment and on average harder to use counters compared to iceborne Lance. Unlike many other weapons which got better/easier in each of these categories but still lance did very little damage. ->A lot of other weapons are getteing better and better in standing their ground and playing aggressivley, some arguably better than Lance. As such it feels like Lance needed something new to set itself apart again. ->Lack of new or returning "flashy" moves like clutch claw counter/a new version of it ....cough or corkscrew jab cough I think my first message got deleted, because it identified something as a link that wasnt supposed to be one.

[@kazzinga9605]

@zawardo5909 yeah i don't see the other message, btw, all you have said it's true, a lot of the lance moves were useless, slow, low damage. That's why i never used them, so i get what you're saying, but i never achieved with other Monster hunter an aggressivity with the lance like in wilds. You can aggro the Monster with the slinger ammo thing and perfect guard everything while poking. I would love something to adjust the charge while on the seikret, because in the beta was useless, cool but you couldnt reach anything at that Speed. I Hope that the perfect guard and the Primary poke combo would not change, and make the other moves more intresting.

[@grantgarbour]

Kinda annoying that capcom keeps taking away attack commitment and calling it quality of life. DS are already one of the weapons with the least commitment in the game I hadn't even realized they buffed demon mode to now take stamina on knockdown. I felt that was one of the reasons to be in Arch Demon mode instead, because it's more forgiving in exchange for spending a guage

[@brunog8418]

Ig has bounce updated info

[@koidamaru]

38:15 thousand dragon was already in iceborne nothing new about it

[@PEPPE93NAPOLI]

Im between great sword, long sword, corn or hammer😂

[@hengkyleonhart]

Damn capcom if you want to delete SA from game just do it, dont play us like this...

[@tootalltoft35]

I hope CB gets tweaked a bit.

[@LowellGreene-gy6fg]

Good liss

[@BatmanBeyondBelief]

I dont disagree with your lance analysis. I just think youre not a lance player. None of those things sounded like issues to me. Why would the tankiest weapon not have slow movements. Based on this game play it seems like you’re not dodging in the right direction or shield walking at all. Also you dont need monsters to focus you in order to perfect guard. You can pg screams, tail whips and stomps. Good video though. Thanks for the info

[@srbaran]

The bounce has been confirmed to have returned on IG. It sounds like it may have been removed in the beta so that people would focus on optimal gameplay... I mean the new attacks.

[@GodEater015]

Not even optimal… just using it properly. IG in my opinion is the most versatile weapon in the game to be reduced to spin to win.

[@johnphileobaua]

​@GodEater015 yeah, I really just wanted them to revert the change to the infinite combo so I can easily get in and out and not spend my time charging an attack.

[@jaleelrogers4804]

Hate this there is no teir list it’s what your good with. I’ve seen time and again that weapon type doesn’t matter your skill level does .

[@darkhero2]

I mean, obviously. This is a PVE game after all. This is all my opinion. I think subjectivity and skill level are a given for any kind of tier list

[@robbyw.8616]

3rd

[@silver_n_gold5]

Still don’t get why we’re doing weapon tier lists when the games not out. Or just in general when we’re talking about a pve game where you should just use what you like.

[@darkhero2]

Yes you should use what you like. Always. No one is telling you not to. I see this comment on mine and others videos and I don't get it. It's just our (content creators) opinions, it has no bearing on what anyone does

[@silver_n_gold5]

I just think it doesn’t make any sense. If you want to do it then fine. But it does seem kinda pointless when the point of a tier list absolutely is to sway peoples opinions on what is “the best”. That’s how they’ve been used for years bud, you should know that. I’ll give you this, I do think that these might help the devs see what needs to be buffed or nerfed. The weapons ought to perform equally. But I seriously doubt most of these tier list are objective enough about the weapons different strengths and weaknesses to take anything other than dps into account when ranking. Which defeats the point.

[@BatmanBeyondBelief]

@@silver_n_gold5its just an opinions piece. This list is not agreeable to me at all but he can have his opinion on anything