Monster: Johan convinces Richard to drink (dub)

[@Rs2006REMAKEVids]

"Well, Richard, how about a drink?" Beautifully executed.

[@jacavanheesch4593]

nomimassen ka?

[@deanpetersen8691]

Literally executed him and made him do it himself Johan’s something else

[@loveless8816]

@@jacavanheesch4593 bro i can even read that in his Japanese voice in my mind💀

[@jacavanheesch4593]

@@loveless8816 do desu? i love the original voice of johan in the japanese version he sounds like a polite young man and he is kinda but then there is that underlying creepyness to it

[@oliviahughes3158]

"beautifully executed" Wait, do you mean the line orrr...

[@MrAltamashqureshi]

How weak the mind when it wants to forget

[@arnoldrivas4590]

What about when exposed to that darkness and despair, you want to hang on to it? Because forgetting or ignoring it is worse?

[@observingatoms]

@@arnoldrivas4590 its hard to ignore that. Something which haunts you throughout ur life with so realistic illusions like what happened with Richard while walking on the road. Its clear that incident had a deep rooted presence in Richard's heart. Thanks to that psychatarist, he was on the way to recovery. But Johan .... I wonder whether Johan spoke the truth or just used his manipulation like always to come up with such terrifying statements. He honestly sounds right tho, poor Richard just got a hint that Johan was behind all this and see, how quickly he got killed. That psychatarist was also going to be executed by Roberto, but Tenma came in time and saved his life. Notice something here? How Richard was so close to recovery and then got killed whereas psychatarist uncle almost died and Tenma just saved him. Johan and Tenma, two sides of the same coin just like good and evil. At the end, Tenma is also evil as he spoke that those bastards should die. Johan was also good for a time, supplying pleasures to people and working for children's safety. Good and evil looks the same if u consider this. Means there is really no good or evil.

[@rulerofroombas1443]

your mind maybe

[@darksideoftheforce7801]

A detective don't have a weak mind

[@ego5652]

@@darksideoftheforce7801 ?

[@raptorjesus6953]

This has got to be one of the most powerful scenes I've seen in an anime until now. The slow building-up of the tension until they reach the roof... "Well, Richard...how about a drink?"

[@lavahit]

Then watch the one with Adolf Junkers.

[@RythmiMink]

I was literally like PLEASE STOP FOLLOWING HIM HES A BAD BAD MAN

[@shannysalcedo3627]

@@RythmiMink Richard should have convinced Johan to follow him to his therapist

[@cristaljustice4534]

@@shannysalcedo3627 lmao

[@maxim7269]

@@shannysalcedo3627 if Johan did go to the therapist, i bet the therapist will go insane lmao after all Johan was born evil

[@xPrincessGarnetXVI]

0:57 Johan completely drops his nice guy voice and goes in for the kill and then goes right back to his sweet angelic voice like *"oh no im so sorry"* and its so fucking funny to me

[@jamesloucks2562]

He manipulated this poor man from the very start, to think what he wanted him to think. The way he throws subtle accusations to slowly build on the inherent guilt he knows Richard feels, but always backing down and playing innocent before its obvious what hes doing. This was legitimately frightening to watch.

[@xPrincessGarnetXVI]

@@jamesloucks2562 Richard was a cop who abused his power and pushed his principles above the law and acted upon it. We see cops do this today. Whether the kid was actually a pos or not isn't the point. The point is that Richard took it upon himself to serve justice instead of following the law he swore an oath too. And Johan asking him if he was certain of his crimes and Richard could only stutter is proof of his guilt. Richard would say he felt guilty but then in the very next breathe try to defend himself with his justification. The worst kind of people are those who lie to themselves. They are weak. And Johan took advantage of that. Johan embraces that he's a monster. He isn't ashamed. So he plays on the fact that others fear their own darkness. I love Richard. But he isn't innocent at all.

[@employeeattheffc9874]

@@jamesloucks2562 You kind’ve contradicted yourself a bit. Robert is not a victim. He was a cop that felt entitled to act of justice in a moment of poor judgement and blamed it on a lack of sobriety. He killed an underage suspect, which in that setting and time, was illegal. Johan picked at Robert’s points because it was the truth. That’s what Johan does. He doesn’t manipulate people, he finds out people’s moments of “inner monster” or fears, guilt, hatred, jealously, and cultivates it. That’s more frightening. You give Robert too much leeway. Whether or not the suspect did those crimes did not matter, what mattered was Robert hid his guilt over killing a minor through repenting and ironically, drinking. It’s sad that Robert died and yes, Johan is awful, but he is not the only monster or awful person on the show. If you don’t realize that, you are terribly simplifying the mangaka’s work.

[@jamesloucks2562]

@@employeeattheffc9874 the people who are "simplifying the work" are people like you. You are simplifying these 2 characters down to their BASE, taking ONE attribute and saying "they both committed murder, so they are basically the same." "Johan is awful but hes not the only monster, blah, blah, blah" *YOU* are the one being simple." I was trying to be nuanced, pointing out the tragedy of Richard being manipulated. Because despite killing someone, unlike Johan, Richard actually feels *Remorse* , he actually doubts himself and his choice despite what he tells himself. Highlighting the smaller, subtle details of his character is literally the *Opposite* of "simplifying the work" Your second paragraph makes me seriously doubt that you proof read before sending messages, real talk. "Johan doesnt manipulate people, he finds out people's moments of Fear/Guilt/hatred/jealousy and cultivates it" You *Literally* just described. manipulation. lol, wtf dude? Congrats, you can explain how manipulation works without understanding manipulation somehow. XD And Robert *IS* a victim, you may not know this but even *Bad* people who have done bad things..can be victimized. Robert is a victim of himself..and of Johan. I cant believe someone who doesnt understand that had the audacity to say I was simplifying the story. Smh.

[@xPrincessGarnetXVI]

@@employeeattheffc9874 Thank you. You have simply stated what I've been saying to James in our other thread on this video and he doesn't seem to get it. For someone who dislikes someone for being manipulative, he sure has manipulated and twisted a lot of what I've said into whatever it is he wanted me to say. He thinks we are condoning Johan's actions when we're pointing out how there isn't two victims here, just two monsters at play. This is humanity running its course.

[@scifinerd17]

Damn, Richard was doing so good, he came so far on the path of recovery.

[@jimjam1766]

Richard wasn't getting anywhere. He lied to everyone about the incident where he shot a teenager while "drunk". When Johan confronted him with the facts, his mind couldn't convince itself of the lie anymore, hence killing himself.

[@rheamayvillasan5615]

@@jimjam1766To the point.. This is actually the same from Adolf Junkers, the only sole member living of the group that Tenma help to start again to his life...(remember Tenma brought a gift to him)who at the end sadly cornered by an unknown young man as a matter of fact... Johan... behind the murders of foster parents using people as pawns and erased (his will) everyone who know him.. or acquaintance him with or without lifting a finger. Addedly, the murdered Stefan Joss age 17, a serial killer who also came from Kinderheim 511 just like Johan. That infamous place scared the people because of those brainwashing experiments etc there. so this Stefan was a part of bad upbringing to become perfect soldiers...Johan said Stefan Joss is a good boy who also like others had bad experiences and he wish to escape(as far as I remember) He is not legal age yet.. and he may wish to change... Due to his atrocious acts whatever.. he shoot him immediately as a policeman duty(why... because of that Rights of the Child and about that juvenile thing, be wary this is Kinderheim 511 we're talking about )but after that scene he was haunted by Stefan Joss... He lied, drink and even wanted to reconcile with his daughter to change his way...(Just like Junkers) redemption

[@sam.lipchutz]

Until he ran into Satin himself

[@madarauchiha8459]

@@rheamayvillasan5615 johan is showing hypocrisy in this. Lol he kills those who wants to change while talking about redemption and all.

[@BabyAnime41]

Vipul When it comes to a psycho sometimes they can be very hypocritical and their morals they don’t care about what their morals are they just care about shedding blood

[@roykitchener7749]

The way this anime makes you care about every single character is incredible

[@LilyGraceySa]

For real!! It's insane, even the characters who have done bad bad things!

[@mrHorrorLIVE]

Well not every single character in my case

[@FettyWappy]

Not every character. I laughed when Roberto died 💀

[@cromentsierre]

​@@FettyWappy omg yess he's the most annoying and disgusting character

[@OneBillionDollarGuy]

I mean, i was happy when blue sophie died

[@firstnamelastname754]

"You're guilty of murder" *Johan with kill count of 100+*

[@TobiIsAGoodDude]

But he doesn't feel any guilt at all...

[@mysteriousguy666]

Lol he killed thousands

[@lisboah]

Johan knows, but he doesn't care. He loathes humanity as a whole, to him killing other people is like killing insects. But Richard is perfectly sane and is an officer of the law. He killed a man without even knowing the latter was guilty, and even lied that he was drunk, as if to deflect blame. Not saying that Johan has the moral high ground, but at least he's fully aware of what he is: a monster.

[@pocenha]

Fantastic performance by Johan's voice actor

[@joeybradbury7684]

Do you get to the cloud district very often?

[@grimoireweissfan6969]

Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember

[@spongeyspikes09]

Johan meets the Dragonborn Johan: Good day Dovahkiin: So you have chosen... DEATH

[@markiss69]

@@joeybradbury7684 Oh, what am I saying? Of course you don't

[@satellitesnake]

Fly away, my little akuma

[@oliviahughes3158]

It's so terrifying how methodical and precise Johan's methods was. First, in the bar, he calls out his direct actions to remind him of the laws that he broke. Here Richard responds with being defensive and bringing Stefan's crimes to light to justify what he had done. Second, on their walk, discusses everything to do with Kinderheim 511, so he could humanize Stefan and cast doubt as to whether it was justified on Richards end to do what he did. After all, was Stefan really the absolute monster that Richard said he was? Or was he a victim of circumstances that could have theoretically been saved and turned around for the better? Now Richard is doubting himself. Especially when Johan brought up his daughter. Who is, presumably the same age. Third: Call out the lie about his drinking. Now that all the excuses he made have been thoroughly picked apart by Johan and he is currently left with no justification, he's easy prey. And then with the masterfully executed line "how about a drink"

[@swed8506]

I bought a Johan poster for my wall right after the first time watching this shit 😭 my first time watching Monster I swear to god everytime I saw Johan I get the chills, even when he was acting like a good boy every movement he made, I was just chill Johan, stop moving, just stay right there 😭😭 the shit that scares me about this scene, he had his back turned towards Richard, had his eyes closed when he got to the climax of his manipulation, if I knew about a Johan irl I would stay the fuck away from him 😂 or try atleast

[@shanktown]

thanks for explaining it! now i can do this to my girlfriend

[@oliviahughes3158]

@@shanktown Your girlfriend shot someone?

[@allftw2677]

​@@shanktown ayoooo

[@mephistopheles1765]

@@shanktown Σ

[@TheBeastBandit]

4:59 That expression is ice cold. Johan is having FUN. The dub makes his interrogation absolutely soul shattering.

[@micahjones2340]

He feeds off of his ability to command others emotions. The detective was an alcoholic, he prlly drank alone daily. All Johann does is pull at strings until the knot comes loose. He intentionally instigated the detective in the bar in order to gauge the amount of guilt the detective felt in regards to the murder. Johann is playing a game of darts. Unfortunately his aim is immaculate.

[@plzcme434]

5:48 That's my favorite Johan moment. Besides him just killing people or malipulate them, he almost always has a clear face with nearly no reaction. Just seing his pure evil side made him way better than he already was.

[@tofu8688]

Just another day for Johan

[@FlyingFocs]

This was the moment that made me realize that no, it wasn't just hype: Johan IS one of the best villains in anime.

[@Ciaramae7]

​@@FlyingFocs best anime/manga villain/one of the best villains in fiction

[@XD_L0L]

I agree. He has everything a perfect villain needs. Smart , charm , manipulative and being pure evil. I love that there was never a moment where he questioned himself and was like “hold on is that what I’m doing wrong?”

[@999doublekills]

​@XD_L0L His evil smile always cracks me up. Especially the mirror scene where he took off anna disguise. Or the way he suddenly faces towards the rifle lense even though afar. There is just something comedic about it. That he is genuinely evil and unafraid.

[@shannysalcedo3627]

I thought richard was a detective...He should have been skeptical of johan buying a whole bottle of alcohol

[@samsung4360]

@Yup Man To be frank that seemed like a trap from the beginning, yet Richard was already ,,trapped " by Johan's manipulation, so yeah..

[@usagimodoki8660]

@ave avia Dr. Gillen is Tenma's college friend

[@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback]

His analytical skills... were foggy at that moment.

[@atariartoria2207]

He's hungry for explanation

[@khususgabut5727]

He is not good enough like Lunge. But even Lunge would get clapped by Johan by bringing his family issues

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

Crazy how nice he can seem till his true self emerges .

[@kreep4776]

@@U.ups.uranus what did he say?

[@mikaelharding]

One of the benefits of being a remorseless sociopath

[@notreavenirevotreavenire436]

He don't seem nice at all, he is cold all and troughout. His smiles are ALWAYS so damn hollow.

[@gamerito100]

This is one of the best moments on anime. The build up and the final result are pretty well done.

[@regem2424]

johan talks about children's rights and then does the unthinkable to milos, stealing his childhood itself.

[@imjonathan6745]

He doesn't care about human rights but since he is intelligent he knows the law and he study it

[@deviljho4260]

Damn really? It’s almost like he’s lying to manipulate Richard

[@Yonkipog]

Its to manipulate him ofc bruh

[@bekzodabdusalomov1718]

Yeah man, not to mention the fact that he just want to watch the world burn simply because he was. Just saying.

[@frog3630]

“do you think your lies can free you?” damn.

[@joehill4094]

Johan has a 100 speech skill

[@joeybradbury7684]

He’s also that one guy from skyrim

[@nilavsarkar748]

More like, Johan has a 100 speech KILL.

[@zachariasjanssen8593]

@Flash Gaming even greater than that he can convince naruto to become a rogue ninja

[@ender8759]

@@zachariasjanssen8593 ohhh I can see that. A long the lines of: "What If the Village didn't change a bit Naruto, what If they are Just faking liking you because they want to use your power as a weapon to protect themselfs agaisnt Akatsuki? When the threat is over they wil abandon you just like they did when you were a child despite your parents sacrifice to protect them, Why do you think this time will be any diferent?" 😱

[@Zak-tk8wv]

Yes

[@mgabss]

I hate and love Johan at the same time 🔫

[@PenDragon-hg1lg]

Gabriela Duarte The mark of a true villain, is that you can transition between love and hate him at once

[@zacterkrackers751]

Funny how girls this generation love men who look like girls. Johan for example, he literally looks the same as Nina as he even cross dresses her.

[@moka1915]

Zacter Krackers cool

[@Hitman-mj6uz]

he scares the shit out of me evrytime he is serious

[@reinahernandez3463]

lol johan is my name xD

[@mr.mistersquidspongesquare9652]

0:57 omfg why did this line give me goosebumps. it sounds so fucking threatening out of nowhere. it’s really not that chilling unless you’ve seen the rest of the scene up till then though, because it’s such a sudden dip in his voice.

[@chelsmac3179]

Johan’s voice actor is so damn good

[@donaldmakalintal3975]

"how can someone with such a sin face his daughter?" That version is better, but still this is a masterpiece.

[@observingatoms]

I personally prefer this one to be more impactful. The sub one may sound more like as if Johan is brainwashing Richard, but still this dub doesnt fail to break Richard mentally and empty him from inside. He grows so regretful after listening Johan that there is no other option left than suicide.

[@donaldmakalintal3975]

@@observingatoms good to know someone having an opinion on this series these days. This one needs more attention.

[@observingatoms]

@@donaldmakalintal3975 Ya, the fanbase still exists but there are like two discussions in a week. Its underwatched definitely, but not underrated. This series deserves much more viewers, who can come to know that masterpieces like this exist.😞

[@yulimartorrealba5851]

@@observingatoms yeh

[@exponationnn]

@@observingatoms its better for th fandom to be small so it doesn't attract the wrong crowd

[@zahubshahid7944]

Look at Johan's face at 0:14. it's subtle but after asking Richard if he wants a drink, he has this little smirk on this face like he's saying "I'm about to end this mans whole career."

[@ekos8282]

And what was the last words of the video!

[@Brewing_Coffee]

I cried for Richard.... He wasn't even for long time in the show but his story made me sympathize with him

[@gurrenmed5319]

The fucking dub is really masterpiece

[@michaelmorse4444]

"Shall we walk, the night air might do us some good" "I'd like to purchase the bottle please, just something to take the edge off of the night air"

[@yasmeenm6435]

Holy shit

[@maximisxxx]

This man pull out and bottle of alcohol and said "here do as you wish" knowing what he did after what he deny, had fuck his head up in the meaning of so many ways...

[@hachiman205]

Usually I hate dubs for awful delivery and performance that makes me wanna cringe but the johan's VA in English is so good. It's perfect. Considering the fact how twisted the characters personality is it's hard to voice such character but the VA nailed it. One of the rare good dubs(I still prefer sub but this was very good ngl)

[@luqmanmohames677]

So you're one of those

[@hachiman205]

@@luqmanmohames677 disliking something is natural. If you want to group me into the "dub hater" category then sure I am.

[@luqmanmohames677]

@@hachiman205 nah I was just taking the piss lol don't take it to heart

[@hachiman205]

@@luqmanmohames677 oh alright

[@snapperhd]

Viz Media (the company that licenses some anime titles in English) generally has a really good VA roster and scriptwriting team

[@donaldmakalintal3975]

This is the most aggressive Johan has been.

[@i.n.o6425]

The way Johan voice became deeper and tone changed at 0:56 is perfect

[@hawraas.algarabi7419]

Johan: I manipulated people and make them questioning their existence !!

[@gustafa2170]

If you've done wrong, never run from your own mind. Might as well get comfortable, because there is nowhere to run.

[@elijahpautu1222]

DID go brrr

[@gatoradefactory1977]

This is what made me fall in love with johan. This scene is chilling and the manipulation is unreal

[@kreep4776]

Gay

[@Danfth]

You just got manipulate by seeing him

[@anisa3962]

people who downplay the dub are so wrong on this one actually...."how weak the mind when it wants to forget" come on nowwww

[@anisa3962]

"isnt her daddy a coward and a murderer hiding behind an empty bottle?" the dub is hitting me harder compared to the sub with this scene tbh

[@vicodinmethadone]

Idk why people don’t like the dub honestly it’s great

[@SoulSociety404]

Both are 10/10 for this scene, even though I prefer the sub slightly more

[@SoulSociety404]

The dub for this scene deserved way more respect though

[@BizarroGB]

That just might be the coldest quote in all of fiction

[@harshtech3804]

This character is amazing! He can even outsmart Light and Lelouch

[@elijahbaker781]

He can make Light of all people write his own name in the death note.

[@jesuspernia8031]

Lelouch with his power was playing on easy mode. Light on normal. Johan was playing on the hardest difficulty

[@bhawna5399]

@@jesuspernia8031 fax.i think light has best iq , lelouch have best battle iq and johan is best in manipulating

[@bhawna5399]

@Cities dude listen. U can call battle iq a form of intelligence like the intelligence used in battle. Light was good in making plans and lelouch was the best Stratigest. Johan had the knowledge of psychology that's why he was best manipulator, his iq was decent around (200) .

[@colgatelampinen2501]

Outsmarting Light wouldn't be hard, Light was pretty dumdum. He had magical tool to kill anyone in any way possible and its existence was unknown by rest of world. Proceeds to kill bunch of ppl by default way to be sure to raise suspicions. Proceeded to kill "L" right when he appeared on television, further narrowing down his presence used default death there as well. Death note was very flexible tool and rest of world not knowing of its existence would had allowed Light to kill way more ppl by doing things more carefully and not raise suspicions rather than rush things down. He even had simp who had similar power. Even with such powerful assets he managed to get himself into situation where he had to erase his own memory. I have often seen Light referred as smart character, so maybe I have just seen different death note than everyone else? I have only watched death note anime, not read manga so it could also be that Light is smarter in manga and ppl are referring to that.

[@starragon6198]

I really love the scene where Johan say's "Well, Richard, how about a drink? It's like Johan had already gone through Richard's mind and had manipulated him, and then he gave out his final checkmate to end his life.

[@commandervile394]

I thought this was one of the best written villains anywhere in a long time. I often hear him compared to Griffith from Berserk. Both are charming, charismatic, highly intelligent and handsome with clear sociopathic tendencies, however that's where the differences subside. Where Griffith was born semi-okay and chose his way of life to the top for glory, making many sacrifices and dumbass decisions that led to his tragic destruction, Johan was born tragically without being in control of his own destiny, shaped by others around him, until he developed that monster within him at a young age, he didn't make the choice and never had a chance otherwise.

[@IlikeDeathNote]

Yes, I agree. This is a well written comment with precise structure. As I am learning to be precise, your comment serves as an inspiration.

[@commandervile394]

@@IlikeDeathNote I'm glad to be of service, and thank you for taking the time to read and understand it, Have a nice day.

[@megashark1013]

Both are phenomenal villains.

[@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292]

Both are my favorite villains of all time

[@epichal4883]

Hands down two of the best villains ever put in manga and anime, good comparison. Another great one I'd put in the same category is Friend from 20th Century Boys, also from Naoki Urasawa. Much like Johan he's a charismatic manipulator and a terrifying presence through the entire story, even when he doesn't appear.

[@DoubleStudentLoans]

The way they made Johan’s eyes somehow look so hollow is pure art. Ive seen that hollowness before… do not under any circumstance mess with those people. While obviously Johan is an EXTREME case, aspd affects around 2-3% of the population. And while many actively act/are pro social out of convenience and it being the advantageous to them, the smart ones are capable of truly horrifying things. My younger brother is one. We all knew from a young age. Both me and my now adult step sister believe he may have caused my step mom, who he’s known since he was 9, to intentionally overdose on medication. I’ve seen him have that hollowed look in his eyes twice in my life. And it was fucking terrifying. Be careful seeking conflict with strangers. Johan is fictional, but people like my brother are not.

[@3mooryvip500]

And this is ladies and gentlemen what we call a fucking masterpiece

[@sticklegends5689]

The dub is well executed, i can understand how he manipulated richard very well in english

[@YungPinoy]

Yeah the subtitled version didn’t sell the manipulation for me due to me being an English speaker. But goddamn hearing it dubbed really drives home how charming and manipulative Johan really is.

[@sansamman4619]

The dub is kinda better, their voices are much calmer, English is generally a calmer language too

[@nooropiaa2253]

Johan voice seems blander in the dub which is suits him better imo, and tbh it makes sense for Germans to speak English then Japanese

[@denji5426]

@@nooropiaa2253 it always broke my immersion

[@narutospersona426]

Detective/mystery/dark shows and games are better in dub. Monster, death note, persona 3 etc

[@mydyingvalentine]

@@nooropiaa2253 agreed! i watched the series in sub and some scenes in dub and while both vas give johan this eerie calmness ,he just sounds more deadpan in dub (which is good considering his character)

[@moonn111]

He was just writing his college report guys, he was totally not manipulating someone.

[@somepiesheep4426]

Dang I forgot how much I liked the dub for this show it's pretty good

[@misterwacky3186]

Though he is stoic to a fault, you should NEVER piss off Johan unless you obey him.

[@OmkarGole-v9b]

The scariest thing about Johan is that you wont even recognize by the look and by his behaviour that he is the such psychopathic and terrifying criminal

[@BoomBang101]

3:56 - 4:03 THATS SO FKING CREEPY LOL!

[@nikgokuhil]

Even the atmospheric build up in animation and sound is good enough to make me feel the chill

[@__sniperintro__6167]

When devil offers you alcohol never take it

[@Jon-hd4qu]

I watched this last night and this scene was one of the most downright sickening, horrific, and heartstopping piece of media i have ever seen. Even seeing the manga panel almost makes me gag. That sickening smile johan does before pulling out the bottle is the most evil thing on the planet.

[@DoubleStudentLoans]

People die bruh. This is pretty tame compared to things many people have seen in reality

[@masterzombie161]

This scene should be studied in film classes on how to build tension, and a good twist. We followed this detective a good amount of episodes thinking he’s a good man who made a mistake. However within moments of talking to Johan he shows us who the detective really is and destroys him by revealing to us that he intentionally killed that man and used the whole alcohol thing to hide his sin.

[@grimpresence8911]

seems like methods worth studying.

[@ian6280]

Grim Presence okay edgelord!

[@observingatoms]

No pls. No

[@shin_a]

Lol

[@shin_a]

Why Just Why dude I keep on finding you

[@هدي-ه8ظ]

@@observingatoms yes

[@vesperrose333]

That drink would be the last drink he’d ever take

[@ahsantalal7131]

"Well Richard how about a drink". their his facial expressions was turned demonic from angelic☠️

[@cri-sesk2310]

"Isn't her daddy a coward and a murderer hiding behind an empty bottle"

[@markiss69]

Damn johans dub sounds so soothing and creepy its great

[@luisgerardodalguerregarcia1712]

One of the best scenes of Monster

[@Jauja...]

The dub really did a good job, but this specific scene feels much darker and brutal in the Japanese version

[@BenHopkins1000]

I wonder if this is what the serpent that tempted Eve sounded like…

[@dmitriigritiv6543]

Not hating on sub, but the dub nailed for sure, the vibe his voice brings certainly better in dub. Too bad we didnt get the german dub, I would really want to check that out

[@_.belladonna_]

0:56 the way he dropped his nice guy act

[@scourgeeditsidk]

Ah Yes! The best Villain in Anime!! And the best Manipulator in Anime to.. Johan Liebert is a legend bro

[@ProtoBlueGaming]

Never have a conversation with Johan Liebert. You will be broken by the end of it

[@dalenlewin]

This is Keith Silverstein‘s best role, even beating Hisoca.

[@Zak-tk8wv]

And maybe Zhongli

[@emilyrowl9421]

And Hawkmoth hands down. This is his best role ever.

[@ShenaniganJian]

It’s definitely up there. He even stated it was his hardest role because of how depraved Johan is

[@rayofhope516]

What makes this death so much more heartbreaking is the fact that Richard could finally go see his daughter at that point

[@jonseon5952]

Richard was in the right to shoot Joss, but Johan is such a good gaslighter he makes it sound like Richard killed a kid to be evil

[@Berserk_96]

yea Johan manipulated with the fact that he broke his ''Honor code'' by going against the law, kinda like ''hehe i know your secret you can't live with that''

[@tylerrenthewise7390]

“Do you get to the Cloud District very often Richard? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don’t.”

[@GigaChadh976]

“I’ll have you know that theirs no PUSSEEEE”

[@Zenciiiii]

No anime character has more aura than Johan Liebert

[@jaycobrichardson7041]

I prefer the English voice of Johan compared to the sub, thanks for uploading this version!

[@therattrap1997]

bro... i think both Dub and Sub did great job and a lot creepy character... trust me

[@centurymemes1208]

*Need help for having emotional incontincence? Ask johan!*

[@HaloJumper7]

This describes addiction perfectly and how it destroys lives and relationships.

[@chronicallyartsy]

This is the scene that made me watch all of Monster. Absolute masterpiece

[@missfanari]

wonderful scene

[@clintferguson6599]

Johan is like a young Hannibal Lecter!

[@jesuspernia8031]

I’m still going with the pushed theory. But it’s still up in the air as to how he fell. Which is why Monster’s writing is so great. I prefer the pushed theory as it shows despite Johan being a master manipulator, he still isn’t perfect and can still make mistakes, so he had to push him and he didn’t just take the drink and get persuaded so easily.

[@saverio_6990]

No reason to believe that tbh. There is 0 sign Johan failed in breaking Richard. Everything points to him actually drinking and falling. They probably played the rooftop game at the end😂

[@GameInOne]

Just when I started liking Richard then johan offered him a drink And as a detective Richard >> lunge

[@imjonathan6745]

The guy is stupid. Lunge is better

[@itsnegzz7100]

The man had Pennywise's smirk before it becomes a thing-

[@spongeyspikes09]

Johan better hope he wont say "Cloud" and "District" in the same sentence

[@bluesleeper8677]

Did you drink alcohol before the murder? Oh what am I saying, of course you did

[@spongeyspikes09]

@@bluesleeper8677 Dovahkiin: Well here Liebert I have 3 words to say for you... (whispers) fus ro dah

[@Marksman_12]

I can't remember but what does Cloud and District got to do with Johan? I know of the time Johan was fainted because of reading The Nameless Monster but what else gets under his skin?

[@spongeyspikes09]

@@Marksman_12 fun fact the dub voice actor for Johan, Keith Silverstein, voiced the character Nazeem in skyrim, Nazeem is notorious among players for being a smug asshole who constantly brags about being in the cloud district (think like the main castle in the city of whiterun) just when you pass him by what I mean to say here, is that if Johan met the Dragonborn he better not say cloud district otherwise the Dragonborn will fly into an unstoppable berserker rage (referencing the players killing Nazeem all the time) and if you think for a second that Johan will try to break the Dragonborn just like what he did here, well you're dead wrong as the Dragonborn will brutally slaughter Johan to the point he'd rather spend an eternity in hell than being brutalized by the Dragonborn

[@Marksman_12]

@@spongeyspikes09 Thanks.

[@harshtech3804]

Oh man! Goosebumps! Johan Libert is best villein of all time he's word's are enough to kill anyone he is true monster,a Namless monster! Monster is Masterpiece

[@tammy6522]

Rewatching this anime now and this scene still sends chills down my spine. It takes a special kind of cruelty to do what Johan did to this poor guy.

[@loveless8816]

The only flaw that Johan do in this series; he took the wrong brand of wine

[@commandertasty1723]

We need a Monster live action adaptation made by someone like Vince Gilligan.

[@boogus1670]

Imagine 💀💀💀💀😂

[@skipbayless557]

No

[@jamesloucks2562]

No.

[@025harsha9]

Too good bro. But we will absolutely need Peter Gould on board too

[@FineFictMen]

No wonder they chose Keith Silverstein to voice Zhongli. lol

[@nasserabdallh8203]

Johan is a monster

[@Robust-d7u]

A monster trapped inside the body of a german model and still has no name

[@arawn1061]

Roll credits

[@nobutasu3285]

which episode is this? and why is johan so perfect?

[@xxmonsterxx2530]

good genetic + smart + handsome = perfect man

[@fuzailhasan7856]

Because he is a psychopath . And you know what psychopaths in the real world works just like this you may research if you want to. True Psychopaths works like Johan

@Fruit Punch Samurai He is a psychopath. Being psychopath doesn't mean that you are a machine or don't have feelings.

@Fruit Punch Samurai well, the idea of kinderheim 511 was to create psychopaths and they said that johan was among them (we can understand that he was before of K511) About being brain washed, is true obvously, but that doesnt deny the idea that a psychopaths can be created... After all is psychological. And I think that is completely possible being psychopath and nihilistic. At least is what I think. I can be wrong

[@Kimi-xp2th]

@ except that psychopaths are born and cant be created. I think sociopath is the word you're looking for.

[@Ritosonium0233]

The way Johan made him regret ultimately made to do suicide which lead to car crash accident as the officer was drunk and got into the road and passed away

[@izayah1001]

What episode

[@Ritosonium0233]

@@izayah1001 it's around 34 or 36 just watch the anime your get it eventually

[@vorasiW]

masterful scene, you rarely see scenes like this now in anime.

[@shienamae5736]

Johan is just scary af

[@dennislima2757]

His voice is adorable

[@debel5971]

I feel like this is the only scene when we can see that Johan feel rushed because Richard know about him.

[@blackhawk_Enochserpent]

I guess I will write about it, though most didn't notice. Johan hasn't killed just because he was interfering, he feels contempt towards him. There are many good evidence but you can notice two incidents: first is the "you didn't know about his past and what he had to suffer" which he outbursted to him and the second is how he said he "extensively went through the case", as if it was important for him to prove his guilt. If he wasn't acting upon contempt, he would kill him the same way. Johan killed middle aged couples, his enemies and most characters in cold blood, this is rare chance of him comitting murder for revenge. Why? His motive is that he feels irritated at neglegance of Richard and a police officer. The victim kid is from orphanage and experienced the same torture as he has done in the experiment. He feels connection between survivors of kindergarten because they were broken like him, incapable of changing from monster. When Roberto dies in front of him, Johan also has that pitiful face and the reason why he has connection with kindergarten survivors is because he cared about them.

[@bensanchez4026]

He could be a accelen lawyer and a terrefine one as well

[@mbuszka5295]

Best psychopath image in anime EVER made. 😁 Maybe not better, but most realistic than Anthony Hopkins Hannibal Lecter. 🔟/🔟

[@baekseju3006]

he’s definitely not psychopath

[@mbuszka5295]

@@baekseju3006 Sorry, but You are semantically wrong. 🙌 I have this topic as hobby for 17 years now and believe me, as much as by plot we can see trauma, there is DOZEN of psychopathy symptoms, that he shows. Of course it is mixed with some other things, that happened in his life. BUT by portrait, along with fact of being 'born monster' and with things like extream constant boredom, lack of emotions, reflecting emotions demanded, lack guilt or remorse, inability of seeing himself and high cognitive EQ recompensating low 'feeling' part of it, seeing everything absolutelly emotionless(in normal case can be effect of theta waves brain influence, that often cause dream-like state). Also criminal acts, or lack of self-image since early age, seeing killing people as ways to hiding his and Annas identity. Yes. He felt CONNECTED to Anna, but part of it can be reason, he fill-in holes in his own self portrait. After all we have no information on twin psychopaths. Psychopaths often monopolize times of people, they connect to(and by it I can say, they perceive as theirs to 'love', even if they not fully comprehend such bond), always seeking way to monopolize their time. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I am not saying, Johan is ONLY psychopath. But if You know thing, or two about true psychopathy, which not only include human being killing machine, as is popularly seen, but most of all *void on a verge of depression* caused by low endorphine level, that is rising their tend to risking and lowering their ability of feeling FEAR, He is PURELY BEST FICTIONAL PORTRAIT of it. 🙌 Also, with psychopaths, nature vs nurture is also always-present question. Besides, being headshot AFTER getting to Kinderheim 511, or 'protecting Anna', he did it all BEFORE possibility of having his frontal-temporal lobe demaged by bullet. 🙌 AKA he came to all those things himself. Even with trauma implied(that is often portraited 'monsters being born'), couple year boy, who commit such things and is able repeat it NUMEROUS time *is* representation of psychopath, through prism of 'nurture vs nature' debate. Like, did John Wayne Gacy had been born killer, or it was effect of him getting his head demaged by swing, when he was 5? 🤔 Was Ted Bundy born 'evil', or we only see, as some sources says, effect of him being 'failed abortion' child? Naoki Urasawa PORTRAIT Johan Liebert as PSYCHOPATH, but give us open interpretation to it. Just check PCL checklist and see, if Johan check out box. And aside from being promisque, he check it all. I get, if You want to say 'no he is not by plot', but here, again, comes nature vs nurture. Out of ALL subjects, Johan got BORN different. Later incidents shaped him. Like, You think 'merciless killer', that You see in jails. But think about all those highly successful figures, like politics, CEO, businessmen, soldiers and so on, who DID terrible things every day... But stay on a 'verge of law'. 🙌 This is what MONSTER, aside from other characters, sbow most: Was Johan BORN that way? Did Tenma operation, even if saved him, along headshot cause it?' through our jurney we get answers. 🙌 And we can discuss ammound of trauma. Or how different than Anna Johan voice was during Bonaparta appearing. But, in truth. Even Johan' s mother, like those that KNEW about experiment, told, Johan was ONLY ONE SPECIAL. Since a start. 🙌 Again. Some say, it started, because of Johan being seperated from Anna, or Mother abandoning him. But... How big influence was having his mother dressing him as his sister? How big influence had, that he and Anna was considered SINCE BORN only 'perfect results', then corrected, only JOHAN was it? Johan is closest example of purest EXAMPLE of psychopathy from CLINICAL sense of it, You can get. Such is his creation by author and by it, such is what is reality. We always have, with 'special' children question: Nurture, or nature. Amygdala shape, theta influence, white/gray substance balance in organism. Cortisol level and so on... Or just bad accident, which can 'throw some gasoline into this fire', that already was in him since created by Bonaparta project. 🙌

[@baekseju3006]

@@mbuszka5295 i’m sure it's very exciting, but i don't know english well enough for that. some of the suggestions i understand, but i still consider johan a highly functioning sociopath

[@mbuszka5295]

@@baekseju3006 Sociopaths are easy to be angry, can't really pretend even close bonds with others and deep under stay emotional and hostile, even if from first sight they are looking 'highly funcioning'. 😜 You have right to Your assessment, but highly funcioning sociopath is someone like Light Yagami. But You have right to think so. 😜 I am saying about symptoms from more technical side, as person interested in such thing. But as with You, it is just opinion. 😉

[@baekseju3006]

@@mbuszka5295 you’re right buuut… how should i put this… like in some way johan had no control over himself. he often changed his plans and lost his temper. cried and screamed (once in the library, but still) i'm pretty sure it was sincere. my main point is that johan has no empathy but feelings. he is just a true nihilist besides, a sui🔫dal psychopath?psychopaths can kill themselves, but like for the idea in their head. basically even if they aren’t afraid to die, they don't wanna die and light yagami is a narcissist. not sociopath.

[@Titifoe]

“How weak the mind when it wants to forget” * thats were he GOT em..!! Manipulation at its finest

[@birdygamer5224]

4:41 That stare is chilling

[@TangensROH]

This is a very strong scene, but don't let that scene distract you from the fact, that Bungee Gum contains the properties of both rubber and gum, you see.

[@viniciusevaristo8490]

Drinkers in most anime : gyaaaaah this is the best shit ever made i love it Richard : being fucked up as hell by going to the doctor and drinking coffe as a weapon agaist alcoholism

[@Bonapartinha]

I love the english dub

[@hassaanmohammed1907]

Man i really liked richard ngl

[@fallenhuman2081]

The perfect portrayal of a psychopath who wants to watch the world burn. You better make sure your deeds are noble because if they're not, AND you're a conscientious person, this guy will take you to hell. He will pick at you and prod you until the guilt is too much and watch you suffer. Own up to your wrong doings, admit them and don't hide from them, because you can't. No one gets away with anything. At least not in regards to their own conscience. Thats the idea anyway.

[@txshiroo._]

Johan be out there giving that dude osmanthus wine to drink and then killing him

[@annieholstadt2262]

This needs to be shown at every AA meet.

[@jessicaderosa9625]

Johan speaks like Michael Jackson

[@askended6726]

And look's like Korean artist

[@jessicaderosa9625]

@@askended6726 hahahaha

[@askended6726]

@@jessicaderosa9625 but his shadows/sillhoute looks like David Bowie

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

More like Aizen from bleach.

[@ratdoggaming8700]

I couldn’t even think of a better comparison except one kills children and the other one diddles them