MONTBLANC 1858 Geosphere Limited Edition 1858 X Reinhold Messner

#Montblanc1858 #MontblancGeosphere #ReinholdMessner @montblanc
The Montblanc 1858 Geosphere is one of the key icons of the Montblanc 1858 line with its two domed turning hemisphere globes and in-house worldtime complication. Inspired by the explorations of legendary mountaineer Reinhold Messner, Montblanc unveils the new Montblanc 1858 Geosphere Limited Edition 1858 that pays tribute to his five-week solo trek across the Gobi desert in 2004. Reproducing the rocky terrain color scheme, the timepiece harmoniously combines a micro-blasted bronze case with a special engraving on the case back, a bi-directional shiny brown ceramic bezel, a smoked brown and beige lacquered dial, and a matching vintage-brown sfumato calf strap.
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Montblanc uses a very special technique to highlight the Gobi desert on the back of the watch giving it an authentic rendering in 3-dimensions, providing depth and realism as if it was a photograph. Made of titanium, the metal must first be structured, which means that the decoration will be engraved by laser, taking into consideration the relief of the drawing. Then the desired finish (matt and shiny) is also achieved by laser.
Finally comes the coloring phase. The colors are created with laser-generated oxidation. It is the level of oxidation that determines the final color obtained (and desired). Montblanc is one of the most advanced Swiss manufacturers to use this technology on such a large surface.
Special attention has been paid to the dial with smoked brown to beige. A lacquered finishing combined with warm rose gold-coated elements, such as hands and applied indexes, complete the overall design of this modern tool-style watch. For great readability, the day/night indicator, the cathedral-shaped hands, the indexes, the compass indications, and the hemisphere globes are all coated with beige-coloured Super-LumiNova that has been applied by hand.
The Montblanc 1858 Geosphere Limited Edition 1858 is powered by the Manufacture automatic Calibre MB 29.25. The timepiece has two domed turning hemisphere globes at six and 12 o’clock, which are surrounded by a fixed scale with the 24 time zones and include a rose gold-coated and brown day/night indicator (for both the Northern and Southern hemispheres). The longitude reference meridian for both hemispheres is highlighted with a black line coated with Super-LumiNova. Furthermore, a second time zone, used as a home time indication, is located at nine o’clock and a date aperture (linked to the local time) is located at three o’clock.
Movement Calibre: MB 29.25 with Manufacture world-time complication
Type of movement: Mechanical movement with automatic winding, world-time
Number of rubies: 26
Power Reserve: Approx. 42 hours
Balance: Flat hoop
Frequency: 28,800 A/h (= 4 Hz)
Hairspring: Flat
Displays: Hours and minutes from the centre, date at 3 o’clock, second time zone at 9 o’clock
Domed turning northern and southern hemisphere globes at 12 o’clock and 6 o’clock with a 24-hour scale and day-night indication
Case: Special alloy of bronze with slim curved horns featuring microblasted-finishing
Bi-directional bronze bezel with shiny brown ceramic, knurled finishing and engraved cardinal points coated with Super-LumiNova
Crystal: Scratch-resistant, domed sapphire, antireflective crystal
Back: Bronze-coated titanium with Gobi Desert landscape & wind rose compass special engravings
Diameter = 42 mm
Height = 12.8 mm
Lug-to-Lug = 52 mm
Water-resistance: 10 bar (100 m)
Crown: Special alloy of bronze with polished and fluted finishing with Montblanc emblem in relief
Dial: Smoked brown to beige, lacquered with rose-gold colored luminescent applied Arabic numerals, rose gold-and beige-colored luminescent cathedral-shaped hour-and minute-hands, beige-colored luminescent second time zone hand, beige-colored luminescent northern and southern hemispheres globes, historical Montblanc logo at 3 o’clock
Wristband: Brown sfumato calf leather strap with beige stitching and bronze-coated stainless-steel triple-folding clasp
Certified by the Montblanc Laboratory Test 500
Limited Edition: 1858 pieces
Price: 6000 CHF incl. VAT

[@WatchAdvisor]

PLEASE do also read the description of this video! I am looking forward reading your comments and answering your questions ...

[@valentinalonso7457]

I have bough the number 1/1858. Its wonderfull

[@user-bg6px8vy9n]

ух ты, оч изысканное сочетание цветов необычная модель

[@ChasT-ns7pi]

A great watch and thanks for the review - i'm very lucky to have the 1 of 858 geosphere ultra black that is stunning - i've added two white dots to the bezel by the North marker so I can use it as a conventional timing bezel.

[@albertbremner8173]

That lume completely blew me away! I wasn't expecting that at all. As you said, spectacular 🤠

[@WatchAdvisor]

Not seen anything comparable so far … Montblanc is setting a new standard …

[@CorvusHyperion]

Very attractive watch

[@WatchAdvisor]

True! Have you ever seen it in real?

[@CorvusHyperion]

No, would love to@@WatchAdvisor

[@WatchAdvisor]

Keep us posted please!

[@livingston5932]

Alexander thank you so much for quality content you giving this industry new face Finally we could see bright CEOs and passionate people which create timeless beauty . You helped a lot to understand the core of this industry

[@WatchAdvisor]

I am happy to read this, we love your comment … thanks for sharing our passion! Always let me know if you have questions…

[@quiterioalbertobaezbenitez5739]

Thank you once more, for bringing us such an amazing and beautiful pieces. In this specific case an authentic piece of art Alexander!. Yes, so gorgeous!! Thank you. Saludos!

[@WatchAdvisor]

My pleasure! Is it the first time that you see a Geosphere?

[@quiterioalbertobaezbenitez5739]

@@WatchAdvisor Well, thank you first of all. You asked if I ever watched a Geosphere in a wrist-watch, and I must say that no like this way with that high artisan level. But in the other hand, I think that is very common to observe in digital wrist-watches. The purpose should be the same in both cases. Saludos!!

[@WatchAdvisor]

@@quiterioalbertobaezbenitez5739 Analog is always better! Check out the other Montblanc Geosphere models… I am sure you will like them too..

[@tonycornish79]

Quite possibly the best looking watch I've ever seen

[@WatchAdvisor]

Thanks for sharing! Go and try it on your wrist... keep us posted please...

[@slicksebring]

An absolutely stunning watch. Thank you for the outstanding and detailed review. Great videography.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Our pleasure… thank you very much!

[@jeffreybialowas4637]

Great in detail video I bought my first Mont Blanc 8 months ago, the nicholas rieusses and love it. The geo spheres are really nice and something very different. I think Mont Blanc and Minerva have a great future of making amazing pieces,Jeff.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Congratulations and thank you for sharing our passion! You first need to understand what Montblanc is doing in watchmaking to be able to appreciate it ... BRAVO!

[@tiberiuvincze8288]

This is art, you are lucky to touch something like this! Unique complication I think and very simple to reed! as always very exquisite!

[@WatchAdvisor]

I am happy to read this! Thanks for sharing your passion with us …

[@alejandrokovacs2424]

Súper cool the technique on back side. Regards Alexander.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Pretty unique…

[@matgorelsp]

This montblac is stunning ive finished my collection but this would change my mind i enjoyed the review.

[@WatchAdvisor]

… “ive finished my collection” … does this mean you are no longer buying any watches?

[@bbrebozo6417]

That’s some lume! The laser ablation on the caseback is impressive but that lume is the show stopper.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Like the ambient light designed for cars … Montblanc with this Geosphere did set a new light 💡 standard …

[@b.2221]

Fed up with the oh a watch made by a high quality pen 🖊 manufacturer who cares?. Its beautifully made and a gorgeous piece , end of story , and thank you for another top quality video Sir 👍 Tam.

[@WatchAdvisor]

My pleasure! Thanks for sharing your passion with us!

[@sosin]

Good job Alex

[@WatchAdvisor]

Thank you!

[@lesgillard1508]

A nice bronze colour, will it patina. On the Australian site -The 1850 Geosphere Messner Limited Edition has a Blue dial (looks the same as the one your demonstrating, 262 pieces , AUD $9680 , but its sold out. Does this modle come with 2 different couloed dials or is this the new (2021) modle? There is a 1850 Geosphere Limited Edition , 1858 pieces listed as well. It looks like the one your demonstrating.

[@WatchAdvisor]

I don’t know if the bronze is stabilized or not… I hope not, since some patina looks good… thanks for sharing the details about the Messner edition…

[@adilbaria8139]

Nice, the Nt & St hemisphere have red dots which are highest mountains & their names are inscribed at the back.

[@MarcosVenti]

Montblanc is coming up with serious horology!!!

[@WatchAdvisor]

That’s not the first time though …

[@michalval1]

Great review! Thank you for that. I am the owner of MB Reinhold Messner LE with the blue dial, but I have to say - this Gobi desert version with plastic hour indexes are much better then my printed. Black zero meridian is better as well - white zero meridian on my watch si hard to see. And caseback is absolutely amazing!

[@WatchAdvisor]

I haven’t seen yours in real so far, so it is hard for me to compare… thanks for sharing your thoughts with us… May your Montblanc always show you HAPPY seconds, minutes and hours

[@stephenc1337]

just FYI: All watches have engraved 1 of 1858. The identifier of each watch is above, on the same side of the caseback.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Thank you for letting me know! Of course! I already apologized in another comment for this lapsus ...

[@adrianobanak2824]

Wow, that back side is fenomenal! What is the caliber inside? Is it ETA/selita or in-house?

[@WatchAdvisor]

Val Fleurier ... the Richemont groups movement manufacturer...

[@adrianobanak2824]

@@WatchAdvisor OK, so it could be considered as an 'in-house'?

[@WatchAdvisor]

@@adrianobanak2824 It is a calibre done for Montblanc exclusively by the group’s movement manufacturer - yes!

[@dwightlooi]

Pretty darn good for a Pen Company! But I guess buying Minerva helps.

[@johnmcdonagh1607]

Agreed, Dwight, to buy into “respectability” within the watch world.

[@dwightlooi]

@@johnmcdonagh1607 Unfortunately, I bet their customers won't know or particularly care.

[@johnmcdonagh1607]

@@dwightlooi Agreed pal, admittedly I do have a Montblanc fountain pen, which I like. Cost me lots 😉, but I consider it a “luxury”. Watches, nowadays, I consider myself “lost” to be frank. I purchase what I perceive to be “value”. Longines and Zenith 🤷‍♂️. My Rolex and Omega days are over 👍.

[@dwightlooi]

@@johnmcdonagh1607 Longines quality is amazing for the price. Especially the new "Heritage" stuff they are putting out lately. Seriously, a Longines Spirit is every bit as well finished as a Rolex Oyster Perpetual -- textured dial, applied numerals with inset lume, etc. Besides, the 2892 derivative movement wouldn't break and costs $300 to fix it it does. Regulation was also nearly perfect at +0.02~0.1s. Most of these don;t have a glass back though (if that's your thing). -- There's also the thing about value. What is value? Getting lots of quality, tech and performance for your money? Or, the fact that the Rolex retains its value and sometimes sell for more used than you paid for it new, whereas the Longines is worth 30% of what you paid the second you leave the store? -- The thing is though... QUALITY DOESN'T SELL watches and brands. Prestige, hype, scarcity, status and ever creeping prices do.

[@guillaumeperret7828]

Beautiful watch, but I didn't understand the globe complication, is it to show times on both hemispheres?

[@WatchAdvisor]

Yes, exactly… but as I said pretty difficult to read time from…

[@anthonystevens8683]

I love the way mechanical watch companies look into new and interesting complications. Although this watch is unlikely to spend much time on my want list I can appreciate the thought and engineering know how that has gone into its creation. The twin hemisphere complication is great but like you Alexander my sight would not be able to appreciate the information they bring. The second 24 hour time is a very useful one as is the hour jump adjustment (why don't more manufacturers have this?) all good,. The compass marked bezel is of limited use other than set it to the orientation of the N mark on the top dial and align with the sun. Here in the UK cloud cover tends to be the norm a lot of the time so not easy to gauge but we have smartphones that can do all this for us, even telling the time allegedly :-) The rear of the watch looks fantastic. Unfortunately for me (fortunate for my wallet) I'm not in the market for a bronze timepiece at the moment but if I was I would certainly give this piece a second look.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Anthony it is a pleasure to read your personal summary! Montblanc is good in storytelling … that compensates the lack of horological heritage … once you plunge in the world of adventures this watch is really cool… There are also several other versions, I don’t know if you are aware …

[@anthonystevens8683]

@@WatchAdvisor Thanks Alexander, I agree this piece is like an adventure on the wrist. I'll need to find time to look at some of the other offerings from Montblanc. Recently I've been drawn more to simpler, arguably more classic watches, but I do not rule out any piece that catches my interest, classic or new, mechanical or otherwise. Thanks again Alexander.

[@WatchAdvisor]

@@anthonystevens8683 Let me know if you have questions and/or need an advice…

[@raziel5280]

Very nice, I really like this watch in the mountains edition but it’s little expensive for a Sellita movement.

[@WatchAdvisor]

This is a Val Fleurier movement…

[@hummerone6714]

Is it a screw down or push in crown?

[@lorinstanciu2050]

Just to shed some light about the engraved mountain names on the back... if you look very carefully on the globes, you will see some tiny red dots. They are the 7 summits of the world.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Saw those of course… still was wondering why they added these names… the watch is a tribute to the Gobi dessert ….

[@daddymo7387]

Hey Alexander thank you for this great video. I have a request; can you please do a full tour to Vaucher Manufactur facility? Thank yiu

[@WatchAdvisor]

Please check our Hermès videos… Three of them show the manufacturing power of Hermès and as Hermès owns a 25 % stake in Vaucher we also show the manufacture from inside …

[@daddymo7387]

@@WatchAdvisor I want to make my high end watches with Vaucher too. Hopefully one day we will sit and talk together too :)

[@gyang333]

Can you please share what the point of the bezel is? I understand that it has NSEW but it doesn't adjust as you head in any direction, what's the point?

[@WatchAdvisor]

No, I can not! This is pure design, nothing else…

[@stephenc1337]

@@WatchAdvisor It isn't pure design. Knowing the time of day and the position of the sun, one can figure out the cardinal points. Whether one needs to turn the bezel for that, I guess it is another matter.

[@WatchAdvisor]

@@stephenc1337 The use of such a bezel is questionable

[@michalval1]

Just small notice: this watch is not "first of limited edition". MB sign each piece of the Limited Edition the same way - "1 of 1858". Every pieces of this Limited Edition has the same signature. It means "one of 1858". Probably it is easier / cheaper to produce.

[@WatchAdvisor]

This is something I only realized after filming the watch… normally you read “one out of XXXX” … it was a bit confusing …. I personally don’t like these limitations… to be precise none of them… that does not add anything to a watch IMHO…

[@zhan9207]

Anyone who buys this watch is more for the aesthetic than for the function. I really like your videos, and is it possible to make micro shots in the future?

[@WatchAdvisor]

Thanks for the kind feedback! What exactly do you mean with micro shots? What do you want to see?

[@zhan9207]

@@WatchAdvisor Really close up look at the watch details, dial, hands, indices,etc.

[@AhmadAlsanad]

Is it field watch?

[@WatchAdvisor]

"Field watch" ??? What does this mean?

[@cedrichaberey9649]

Cool watch but I’d rather like to see a remake of the Oysterquartz he actually wore on his Everest expedition 🤔 and regarding the names on the case back, this is the Messner version of the 7 summits (highest peak on each continent).

[@WatchAdvisor]

Thanks for clarifying 😉

[@mohammedines6182]

Combien coûte cette belle montre

[@WatchAdvisor]

6000 Euro inclu la TVA

[@khoocheepeng]

Ceramic?

[@WatchAdvisor]

No, bronze! Ceramic inlay in the bezel - yes!

[@marvihaemmer9881]

I‘m a simple man: When I see WATCH I click, when I see Reinhold Messner I click, when I see both I‘m over the mountain😍🏔

[@WatchAdvisor]

I hear you! 😉

[@nkamboh]

These are the seven highest peaks

[@WatchAdvisor]

Of course, I simply didn’t realize when taping the video 🫣🤭 … Thanks for sharing!

[@yochanankooijmans9378]

The mountain names on the back of the highest mountains on each of the seven continents ("the seven summits") all climbed by Messner. see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Summits. Awesome watch!

[@WatchAdvisor]

Thanks for sharing!

[@midas1929]

Personally not a big fan of the bronze, although it fits the theme well. Very interesting watch though. Montblanc did a real effort here.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Although Montblanc makes cool watches meanwhile… they are struggling to get their feeds on the ground … the brand is still seen as a pen maker

[@midas1929]

@@WatchAdvisor It's not the watches, it's the marketing, especially the brand positioning.

[@jongoodman7563]

What is Montblanc’s fixation with even Arabic numbers?

[@WatchAdvisor]

A design choice I would say …

[@josephknecht4272]

I love the watch; the logo on the dial, not so much.

[@WatchAdvisor]

What is wrong with the logo?

[@seanthomez5869]

Hi, Alexander! I wanted to make a comment just because I’ve never been so early... lol a bit childish, I know.

[@WatchAdvisor]

Sean, I am happy to see/read that you are enjoying our channel!

[@andreizamfira]

Does anyone know if this brand is in the top 10 of most recognized brands? Or it does not belong there, with Rolex, Omega, Breitling and the rest...?

[@andreizamfira]

But what about Blancpain?

[@WatchAdvisor]

No, this brand does not yet belong to the ten most recognized brands. Montblanc watches are still pretty new in comparison to many other brands...

[@WatchAdvisor]

Blancpain - yes!

[@andreizamfira]

@@WatchAdvisor Thank you sir. Many people make comparisons among these 2 watch brands, this is why i thought they are same prestigious... I know though that Montblanc are famous for their pens and writing tools, but many praise their watches too... this is why I thought that maybe belong up there, with prestigious watch brands also...

[@wafflemon1858]

Although Montblanc's main product is not watches, they are well known as makers of fine things. You won't be sorry by having one of their watches on your wrist.

[@allenby3202]

In the dark cannot tell time in southern hemisphere & have to kind of guess time in northern hemisphere, it's a cool watch for £6k I expect great attention to detail or I can spend a fraction of that price on something way cooler! I think montblanc as a brand pretty accessible for products,. But with watches I think this might not be correct approach it's a cool watch but it's overpriced

[@WatchAdvisor]

These “Geosphere” models sell very well … in all its executions… and there are new ones to come soon…

[@waseemfairoz1718]

Please remove the"Reinhold Messner" from this video title. That's not the Reinhold Messner watch, that is just a regular geosphere 1858 pieces for each colour. The actual Reinhold Messner limited edition is 262 pieces worldwide only. And it has his signature and says "Limited Edition Reinhold Messner" and only available in blue. Your video misleading to collectors and owners alike. And also brings down the value of the actual Messner Limited Edition Geosphere.

[@WatchAdvisor]

When filming this Geosphere it was clearly associated in the communication with Reinhold Messner and his adventures. They changed/specified the communication after they decided to launch an own dedicated RM version in blue…

[@johnmcdonagh1607]

Mmn, Alexander, bronze, in itself an ALLOY, does tarnish . Not in a “nice” way either 🤷‍♂️

[@WatchAdvisor]

Depends! I saw some watches looking pretty cool 😎 too …

[@radidoc4832]

Very beautiful watch, but not very practical and essentially an antique looking toy-jewerly for the grown man who wants to dress up as an explorer on Halloween. Ok, may be I would have been tempted if it had a running second, but I'll pass. Thanks for the review, though.

[@WatchAdvisor]

I agree to a certain point and don’t think it needs Halloween 🎃 to wear it, but for sure affinity to adventure and also Reinhold Messner…