Monte: LAG WILL be AUTOMATIC W/ this: HOLDING it only destroys it! Be Better Golf

[@louissmith5298]

Monte is hands down the best golf teacher on youtube. Nobody else breaks the swing down into fundamental forces and moves as well as he does. He doesn't make compensations or leave things out to fit his teaching method like most of them out there, he actually looks at the physics of the golf swing and makes the method fit the physics of the swing.

[@adolfozayas3359]

I can watch Monte and Malaska all day long. Both are teaching really similar stuff esp with this split grip drill. Good Stuff.

[@Greenballed]

Broom Force and Hockey drill changed my driver swing 100%. Thanks Monte!

[@Arkade_Perfect]

I fully agree with all of this! My swing thought of late is to get the club head on “path” asap from the top of the swing. As much as it feels hands first, my body starts moving early and I hit from the inside. Similar idea to keeping the back to the target longer etc.

[@JPPLCNeto]

same with me :)

[@MrBlacksharpie]

I really feel that these kind of practical swing drills and thoughts should be the way golf is taught. Just swinging a broom stick on plane and also hitting balls with a spit grip did SO much for my swing. Any time my swing is a little off I go back to these and it comes right back.

[@LeinonenHannu]

This reminds me off Steve Pratt and Mike Austin's swing

[@glennwiebe5128]

I was messing around with the split grip on the range and was amazed at the accuracy and consistency of produced. However, I had my hands together as opposed to inches apart as Monte was demonstrating. Everyone has said not to use it for a full swing but I have used it now for several rounds. Technically I think it would be considered a baseball grip. After watching video of myself hitting balls, it's clear that I now have shaft lean due to my own shoulders and lag due to my hips initiating and driving the swing. My intention is to transition back to my overlapping grip but in the meantime I'm enjoying the solid contact.

[@maxwired2235]

Awesome! Malaska demonstrated this in his early videos too.

[@bengreen1262]

Light bulb moment ~ great drill with split grip ~ Brendon you nail a lot of topics for the journeyman armature seeking improvement .I have realised myself that as time goes on the answers are not where you expect to find them and as you get older like most things get harder ~ the only thing that you have when you get older is the wisdom and experience to be smart about improving. Great work 👍👍

[@golfdoc1950]

Some years ago on the Big Break reality show, one of the players used a split grip on his chip shots. I forget what he called it. It was almost a scrape, which would have been illegal, but he made good ball contact. Not sure if I'd use it in a round but it seemed to help him. Maybe he had chip yips.

[@bradytorvik6294]

Just watched a video by the Titleist Performance Institute guy and he said the same thing -- all players down hinge first and then rotate the wrist. Kind of blows my mind.

[@chillyerbeans3756]

No turn cast drill fixed my snap hook in one week, Monte is a legend!!

[@westham11996688]

What you both discuss at 5.00 is that possibly the vertical drop and horizontal tug Moe Norman called his feeling of greatness?

[@Mateo-yx7tp]

Monte...If you unload the vertical hinge (early with a nice soft/loose/oily grip) and just simply swing through, doesn't the horizontal hinge just naturally happen because of the swinging motion? I don't want to have to account for anything else? Am I being lazy? (Love your videos).

[@maxwired2235]

Great drill for teaching that the hands need to return to address position from the inside of the arc, not swinging hands at the ball.

[@davecohn6407]

Two years ago you did a much more detailed video of the split hand drill with Bertie Cordle

[@napkimplz5416]

So in between P5 to P6 is when you want to start releasing that vertical hinge not right off the bat in transition correct? And horizontal hinge just before and through impact

[@RiseUp1000]

Jack Nicklaus said it was never too early to release that vertical hinge. If you wait until between P5 and P6, that’s too late.

[@Amsepamse]

I love it when Monte turn up on the channel. I see all these other instruction promoting "turn" (like Milo Lines) I know it wont help me, but it seeps into my subconsious and my drive turns into a slice (or "fade" as dilusional players call it). Then Monte show up with the no turn cast thing and everything falls into place again.

[@billygraham5589]

Just to add moral support; I swing “hands and arms” style, and though I “turn” I do things to minimize my turning before contact. One thing I do is what Lee Trevino instructs on, to keep my left knee behind my right (lead) knee as long as possible. I also strive to keep my right heel down as long as possible. I could go on, but the hands and arms approach has plenty of power for me and, honestly, I don’t get any more power from a purely rotational swing - and I am just not good swinging that way. But I do very well with an emphasis on the hands and arms as the main power generator. I “turn” only as much as I must. And I am not the only person that swings that way, and plenty of examples of a hands and arms swing in golf history; Hale Irwin as the prime example, but maybe others we would not normally think of - like Jack Nicklaus? (Mike Milaska said Nicklaus told him he never thought about turning in his swing...)

[@maxwired2235]

@@billygraham5589 yes, Malaska demonstrated where speed comes from during a group lesson on YT. The body slows down and the arms and hands sling thru with extreme speed. Best money spent joining his site.

[@billygraham5589]

@@maxwired2235 Joining Milaska’s site? I’m old school. I like the idea of going to a pro and paying for a lesson. But I guess that it is better to read or view the videos published by pros - learning that way. So few guys tell you to swing hands and arms off the top. I guess a fully rotational swing concept is more appealing, and easier to talk about. Milo said he would work with any swing style. But I have not heard Milo talking about the use of the hands and arms as a power generator and as a main feature in the swing. Here Monte is hinting at it, Milaska more than hints at it. Good. But more to the golf swing than that, but not getting that puts guys behind. Tough game, but tougher if you’re doing something difficult or impossible to execute. I was a fully rotational swinger for years, BUT I swung like Moe Norman and DeChambeau. Getting older I switched to a conventional swing, as I learned over the years all the pats for that. Couldn’t really find a pro that could beat me though, so I had to teach myself. Oh, there were pros that could beat me, but not too many. And most both were not teaching and would not teach the fully rotational swing. (My clubs were set up 2 degrees flat and 1-1/2” long.) But even with the fully rotational swing you got to be good with the hands - can’t let your torso turn too much too soon or it’s all over. The hands got to move from the right side of the body to the left for contact. To much turning at the torso off the top and that cannot happen, the hands and club get stuck. Anyway, looking like Monte is teaching right, at least in my mind - Milaska too.

[@pbabs3389]

Milo doesn’t say to hold off. He just doesn’t talk about how to release all that much, but he echos what Monty says

[@nunyo7259]

And the academy award goes to... Monte S with Monte S golf 9:13

[@bl6369]

Would love to see a long drive competition as well as a heads up match between Monte and Milo. Who's your money on? I say Milo in Long Drive and Monte in match play.

[@Callofthegame247]

You have to release the club. "Lag" is BS. Shank central. The hands work downward, then you release, because good contact is ball first-ground second. A lack of "lag" is people lifting the ball, period. If you're hitting ball first-ground second, the hands, sequence, and release occur perfectly.

[@persona250]

Earlier this year i got a feel on the range , the feel was flip the cub hard from the top was crushing the ball ,

[@Callofthegame247]

@@persona250 I mean the release starts from the top anyway. The only reason the "lag" occurs is because the downswing arc is narrower than the backswing arc, and the hips shift targetward to start. Again, the hands work downward, which narrows the arc. Lag is an appearance, nothing more.

[@billygraham5589]

I fire with the hands and arms - works for me. What Monte is saying here is about what I would teach someone if I were to give a lesson. I should go to work for Monte. (I actually do things to reduce the effects of my lower body on my upper body - which is why I call myself a “hands and arms player.” But what do I know?🤡🤙) And just to finish this off with a a citation to a renowned pro; Ben Hogan said it is folly to try to swing holding off on the release.

[@calibreentertainment5528]

Opposite of Milo Lines method

[@555Trout]

Curious how you see it this way? I didn't.

[@arjanpetersen]

Not at all

[@willpollard4983]

i thought the same

[@bengaliinplatforms1268]

It's not the opposite, he's not teaching you to lose angles, he's saying do not hold on to angles they lose themselves even in Milos swing. Milo doesn't need to lose as much angles as his timing is so unbelievable and he rotates so much

[@billygraham5589]

No not opposite - but sort of sounds like it. Hogan said it’s folly to hold off the release. I’m a hands & arms swinger, and I even do stuff with my legs and hips to reduce their effect on my hands and arms and the mechanism of that release. I think Milo teaches similarly, but Milo has emphasized the spine angle and legwork and Monte emphasizes the release. I don’t think Monte is downplaying the importance of the forward shaft lean at impact, but he is not emphasizing it. You can release AND have forward shaft lean. Maybe Milo and Monte should clear that up for the audience.

[@RollYourRock]

2:03 to 6:23

[@scedab]

pretty sure you did this with Mike Malaska ;-)

[@dry509]

Not sure how to step up to ball and actually do this swing on the golf course in one fluid movement. Appears to have two parts…down and then across,…etc.

[@Frank-yx1np]

again great video

[@kimgolf5997]

Bravo, 100% Malaska

[@OnTheSnap1]

So Sergio with his downcock as he starts down is load up horizontal while dumping vertical? Get this guy a 3D system so he can show us what pros are doing

[@paulpm]

I thought this was "casting"? I've been doing it for years and now it's what youre supposed to do? I don't get it.

[@brianm.9069]

Casting is when you release your right wrist and straighten your right elbow. Here you keep you right wrist bent back while you move your left wrist so it points your left thumb and the club behind (pointing parallel to the target line) you instead of up in the air (ulnar deviate your left wrist). The other part of lag that is rarely talked about (except here) is horizontal lag. You would clearly see this is you mounted a camera over your head looking down at your swing. The club moves from behind your body out to the ball.

[@cryogene]

No. Casting is when you release the vertical hinge WITHOUT proper sequence of your body! Your body needs to move along with vertical & horizontal hinge, replay this video to hear Monty explain.

[@555Trout]

Casting could be thought of as moving the club head into the aim line. Can you imagine a way to move it parallel backwards to the aim line?

[@sirtogii5216]

@@cryogene This. All players "cast" or as it should be called release. It's a matter of when it's done and poor players release too early due to poor sequencing of the body.

[@bengaliinplatforms1268]

No, Casting is losing the angles because the body and arms stall, he's talking about the vertical and horizontal wrist release that happens naturally, to tell you why you don't hold on to the club. He's not saying lose all your angles he's saying you WILL lose angles into the ball and after in a good swing.

[@dry509]

Phil Hurrle appears to be teaching the same swing.

[@theraynman397]

Kallassy Swing Magic

[@persona250]

I watched rory doing this drill earlier in the year

[@jimgeorge72]

After all Milo has taught you, you still fall for these salesman golf instructors. Haha. Yes, all good golfers release the wrist angles. But pros do it slower so the club never passes the hands before impact. They have optimal forward shaft lean. They have optimal body rotation. Most of their speed comes from a fast moving lead arm during the first half of the downswing. Their speed is not because of a fast releasing wrist release. But, yes, they do release the wrists. Just not quickly or uncontrollably. I’m talking about the many pros who swing this way, not the few who do release the wrists faster with less forward shaft lean at impact. I really like to listen to Monte. He’s fun. He’s confident. He teaches many good things. But he’s off on this point. Yes, many amateurs can’t body rotate like the pros and therefore can’t control the speed of the wrist release like Milo and most pros. They simply don’t have the body to do it. But if they could, they should. Who wouldn’t want to look like Rahm and hundreds like him. It is the best way to swing and release the wrists…so there is optimum forward shaft lean at impact. Yes, the club head will, soon after impact, pass the hands on all full power shots. It has to. All pros flip eventually, it’s just a matter of when. Most amateurs are not in control of this. They don’t have a choice. They think it’s okay because that’s all they know. It’s all they can do. Some amateurs, like some pros, have excellent hand-eye coordination and can do very well with none or minimal forward shaft lean, but not very many. So, we can go along with the L to L drill, but it’s not how most pros do it. Milo is right. His swing is also right. Can everyone swing like Milo? No. But we can understand the concepts and do the best we can do with the body we have. To think that a fast, uncontrolled wrist release is the goal is not correct thinking. It doesn’t increase club head speed enough to justify it and it doesn’t square the club face in the most consistent manner. If it did, more pros would use this technique.

[@tomderrer7468]

This is all wrong. The swing is arms and wrist sequenced to contact the ball for maximum club head speed at the ball. The full release of the wrist should be slightly after ball contact to get maximum club head speed and a slight forward shaft lean. If you release the wrist early as he explains you will hit a very high weak ball flight.

[@richyclubsport5155]

Incorrect, release from the top, i spent two years trying to hold the lag, saw Monte, no turn cast drill, gone from 11.4 to 3.8 handicap in 18 months, hit everything with a low piercing draw, unless i intentionaly want to fade, and I'm no spring chicken

[@TopblokeGolf]

It’s a shame he didn’t question this method to his partner Milo lines

[@555Trout]

Convert the vertical hinge into horizontal hinge with clockwise rotation. Milo has it right. Austin said the same thing too. Moe shows his "move" where he says and shows it so far behind him. Of course it's not actually so in his swing but its his sensation of the vertical hinge conversion to horizontal. Whoever came up with the "delayed release" nonsense should be an honorary entry into the hall of golf shame.

[@mudddge]

“Whoever came up with the ‘delayed release’ nonsense should be an honorary entry into the hall of golf shame” *Sam Snead has entered the chat*

[@555Trout]

@@mudddge 😂 Did the Slammer say something like it?

[@mudddge]

@@555Trout 😂 yeah

[@555Trout]

@@mudddge That's awesome. I hope to run across it.

[@RiseUp1000]

Add Steve Pratt, Mike Malaska, and AMG to the list, too…..

[@Tigersmundo]

*I would have won the bet again about Monte. Describing the swing with hands and not mention the actual VERTICAL forces going on at impact on the left leg just calling it the body this or that. Primarily fall back safe spot a hand description. Hence Be Better Golf birth to continually be searching from the beginning to the present.*

[@BamaPaul]

Malaska preaching

[@kevinhartman7465]

Somewhere, Mike Austin is watching this and smiling.

[@davecohn6407]

If Monte does not believe in maintaining flexion of the lead wrist past impact , then why is he selling the training aid” 300 yard impact “?

[@BEBETTERGOLF]

In flexion, moving towards extension Rather than in flexion moving toward more flexion

[@slytown]

Holding lag is probably the worst instruction in golf, especially for amateurs.

[@billygraham5589]

Those Irish farm workers dress like they work in an office.

[@markfitzpatrick360]

Love the channel and Monte but the bottom line is we have 1000’s of golf professionals and 100’s of KZbin driving range Pro’s teaching us the way Dustin or Rory swing it ha. Everything is compared to Tour players. None of us should be worried about what position they are in compared to us. At best most ppl play twice a week and practice once a week, some have lessons and some actually do drills. But the bottom line is we all have different physical capabilities and time and mindsets etc, stop comparing novices to Tour players. I sure as shit don’t pick up a basketball at 45 and think “right let’s dunk it like MJ” !!! At 5”9 I think I would struggle. Instead I focus on what I can do and that’s not magically grow 2 feet!!

[@krhoden82]

You're completely missing the point. He's not in any way saying you should expect results like that of an elite player/athlete (e.g., dunking the ball or swinging your driver 125+ mph). That's what makes these guys special. He's saying there are basic fundamentals to a good golf swing (sync'd up motion with an athletic release) that people need to focus on. Using your basketball parallel, this would be the equivalent of teaching someone to shoot with a balanced foundation and letting the wrists release the ball as opposed to shotputting it at the hoop. An athletic and dynamic synchronized motion is what every golfer should aspire to, but expecting elite results would be foolish.

[@markfitzpatrick360]

@@krhoden82 thanks for letting me know what Monte meant. I should follow your KZbin channel instead, what’s it called?? Let me guess…..Mindreading by Rhoden? or Backseat Golfer? Sorry it’s probably Another double figure handicap giving people advice!! Your reply wasn’t necessary or wanted. If I want anyone’s opinions….. I don’t

[@krhoden82]

@@markfitzpatrick360 Don't cry. I gave no advice, nor do I feel qualified to give advice on the swing. I was only trying to help you comprehend what I thought was a very clear and simple message. For someone that doesn't want opinions, your initial comment was littered with opinion, assumptions and outright advice. At the very least, I'm glad that you got some of the attention you were so desperately seeking.

[@beavisjones9199]

Yeah people playing golf shouldn't look at all at how the best at playing golf do it. What a genius thing to say.

[@markfitzpatrick360]

@@beavisjones9199it’s so hard to care or respect anything you say with a name like Beavis. My opinion was aimed at Brendon, I am sure if he has an issue he can tell me. He probably doesn’t need you to back him up as much as you love him you have to let him grow. Let me know where to find your channel for more expert opinions and game changing advice!!

[@davecohn6407]

Why have you not improved.?Because you have a very well ingrained flip. Simple neuroscience describes this as a well developed neural pathway in your brain . When you swing slowly without a flip, you are trying to develop a new and correct neural pathway in your brain . The problem is that you ( and others ) will revert back to the well ingrained older neural pathway until the new neural pathway is developed. So you must emphasize maintaining the flexion of your lead wrist via thousands of repetition . You would much better served by sticking with the exercises that MILO teaches through the winter than the BS emphasis on ulnar deviation that Monte teaches.

[@maxwired2235]

Rotation does not create speed though.

[@davecohn6407]

@@maxwired2235 The arms are connected to the shoulders which are connected to the rib cage . Although the RIB CAGE rotation is not the only factor in clubhead speed it is an important one. Even though pelvic rotation is not directly involved in creating club head speed , it is a factor in the range of motion of the rib cage rotation

[@maxwired2235]

You must be an instructor or member of rotaryswimg with Chuck Quinton?? Mike Malaska and ZEN Golf have great intuitive instruction content on KZbin too. Brendan was filmed a lot with Mike.