More Downforce for the K24 Civic

In the last episode, we put on some drag reducing, body widening parts. In this episode, we're going to make better use of those parts and add MORE DOWNFORCE. I'm maximizing the rulebook for my time attack class to produce as much downforce as possible on my little civic.
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[@hichirokaze]

Gears & Gasoline videos are just soo satisfying to watch

[@mootew8735]

Very good production quality, basically movie standards

[@johnm5451]

Never a bad episode honestly.

[@jonathanchristopher5239]

agreed

[@stephanmills9732]

tell me about it.

[@vadimpak5204]

So calming

[@sniperthehunter]

Give the editor a raise. Each of these videos I watch I'm always blown away with the subtle syncing of cuts/actions to the music.

[@DAAN_MUSIC]

They edit themselves mostly I believe with one employee.

[@bonda_racing3579]

So Ben should give Ben a raise?

[@Ed-qr7kz]

@@bonda_racing3579 Ben pays Ben and Ben pays Ben, so Ben’s Ben should give Ben’s Ben a raise yes.

[@DAAN_MUSIC]

@@Ed-qr7kz Ben is the best host and editor on G&G by far

[@MohamedAli965]

@@DAAN_MUSIC i prefer Ben but Ben is also decent

[@miniclip886]

Don't you hate it when you get absolutely gapped on the track in your new Porsche by a clapped out 90s civic

[@fazeobama8872]

running wooden aero

[@angry_mxrcy9877]

With Porsche brakes as well

[@jameshaulenbeek5931]

🤣 Gapping 'Vettes too

[@The_Professional_Hobbiest]

@@angry_mxrcy9877 he's basically a 911 at this point

[@peepeepoo8262]

I would agree but this thing is far from clapped

[@christianm2303]

Ben: we need more weight Also Ben: I got a super light carbon fiber hood and mirrors Edit: Yes. I did hear why he took weight off the hood so he could add more to lower parts of the car

[@GearsandGasoline]

I'm a walking contradiction.

[@jameswedding9635]

He can put a higher % of the total weight under his seat to meet class rules, I would do the same.

[@dwen_.]

Lol

[@yohance11111]

@@GearsandGasoline Extra weight coming from a turbo ??

[@fiisho]

@@yohance11111 can't ismt within ruled

[@nealesanchez9989]

That’s 13 minutes of my life well spent.

[@hemi3005]

What about those 9 seconds

[@MG-ko6jf]

yeah I learned quite a lot from this and will apply it to my Fiesta ST front splitter project.

[@uuzhp8505]

well i enjoyed the 9 seconds aswell

[@bodes_26]

I wasn't expecting a full on lesson on how areo works but im glad I did.

[@TheIcyWulf]

When this project began: "Let's k-swap a Civic!" Now: *R a c e c a r*

[@jacobenglish5940]

And before that it was slammed and riced out when he bought it, gotta give him props for making this car what it is

[@Fred_the_1996]

@@jacobenglish5940 riced??? It had a B16B

[@mohammad6002]

Oh the satisfaction to see how this civic progresses🌹

[@dbong1021]

Thank you for my “Saturday morning cartoons as a child” nostalgia fix

[@samuelaudet845]

I was about to comment about the splitter being wood, then I remembered you're like 100 pound light for your class XD

[@alexgrant6965]

I don’t know why but I just love how this thing looks. Can’t wait to see it race!

[@GvR927461057374]

I’m still saving up for my fun car. I’m almost there but until then I’m stuck with a boring Altima and your videos to keep me inspired

[@GvR927461057374]

@Grant definitely plan on doing work myself. That’s half the fun. I just need to move out of this apartment and get a place with a garage so I can do that 🤙🏽

[@fsega3669]

Search Craigslist cars or auto parts everyday. Eventually you’ll come across a decently clean vehicle for the low. I picked up a clean civic for $300 it needed a trans but I found one for $60... Good luck 👍🏽

[@ethanrainsford4251]

Im saving to k swap my del sol so i know how you feel good luck youll get there eventually itll be worth it

[@R03333]

What fun car are you buying/building?

[@spicemint80]

@@fsega3669 Thats how I got my integra, $200 needed a Trans found a K24 at a pick your part place engine trans and computer for like $300

[@ma77bc]

I've literally made it a routine every week to go get sushi, sit in my car, eat and watch G&G... Expensive, but worth it.

[@xKairel]

My job buys us lunch around noon every Saturday. I share a very similar ritual

[@jamesbogart7767]

Fr I legit just ate sushi

[@joedim]

Greetings from Greece! Keep up the great work guys!

[@wheelg307]

From a Type R copy for under $5000 to a Track monster! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@justinturner4850]

G&G could film grass growing and edit it into a great video. Well done as always guys.

[@ajinpjseph4014]

Its like a therapy for me to watch you guys every Saturday waiting for the Luke's 240SX continuation.

[@Dukelax510]

I thought leave the skirts black after the last episode but now looking at it more I think painting the side skirts white is the way to go. Another epic video boys!

[@CS-lh3oz]

What a cliffhanger! Keeping us in suspense seems to be what Ben&Ben do best

[@FRIEDWINGZ17]

the way he said that last bit, "we've got some changes to make.. to the power train." sounds like itll be sick!

[@fastexoticcars6945]

You know somebody is well versed on a topic when they can simplify a complex topic like aero into a simple picture. Mike is certainly an expert at what he does.

[@ltwracing]

This video is very underrated for the tips & shots on how to build splitters. This was the catalyst for me starting my splitter build. Thanks guys 🙏🏾

[@gouldnj]

I skipped through all my KZbin “journalist” videos to watch this one. You might not believe this in yourself, but your videos have become truly interesting to real automotive fans. Keep up the great work!

[@blazedxjan]

The quality of this content is insane. It's like Saturday morning cartoons.

[@brycefujimoto8023]

The look of the Honda Civic hatchback transformation looks phenomenal. I like how it turned out.

[@Vittinable]

Very good and simple aero package. The only thing I'd add is actually tape where the air dam meets the splitter. If there is even the smallest of gaps there the air flows thru it and lowers the pressure slightly over the splitter (also added drag). If you need more rear downforce but just a bit, not a big chunk, look into putting bigger endplates on your wing and a gurney flap, it'll make a noticeable different for very little money.

[@Dirtyz1234]

These Saturday morning uploads are what I watch as a 40yo instead of Saturday morning cartoons. Keep up the good work!

[@camennordstrom3267]

Man I love this channel. Between gears and gasoline and Donut media, my car itches are throughly scratched. Thanks so much for the amazing video quality in all of your videos, much love from Kansas.

[@dylandinino1295]

My favorite civic build ever.

[@R21654A]

My favourite build on the KZbin platform. This was liberating and life changing. I can’t even describe how much I’ve enjoyed this series. Incredible work gentlemen. Here’s to many more!

[@astletruscott6291]

"I'm under weight so it doesn't really matter" "Let's a carbon bonnet and mirrors"

[@schmuhf]

Makes sense, though. If you need to add ballast because you're underweight, you can place the added weight wherever it's best for weight distribution.

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

Didn’t think to cut the bumper opening before paint. The little things make all the difference, otherwise don’t bother even painting.

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

@@svgPhoenix I personally wouldn’t have bothered painting those parts, but he can do what he likes. About the rest, how does one convey an idea here without commenting? How much easier is it for people to learn and get better with outside input? Then imagine a world where you couldn’t give or take advice, that has some George Orwell vibes. Constructive criticism is real, as is learning and education. Seriously no offence, and no offence to you too. Everyone is wound so tight with being PC when it’s just conversation. I guarantee somebody has mentioned the cutting bumper before paint to him in conversation. Happy Easter!(Apologize in advance if Easter offends anyone in the comments)

[@Vge21x]

While I'd probably look into blacking out the molded bumper opening around the radiator ducting, just for style, the little thing looks like a weapon now. And from the driving footage, sure seems like it is. Love it.

[@johnmitchell2269]

Best automotive channel on KZbin. Advance Auto Parts, please sponsor this channel!

[@BenWalther1]

So stoked on the Progress!! Can't wait to see both Bens on track.

[@Pcheddah]

On the weekends, I go out for bike rides, relax, hang out with my fiancée and watch this Gears and Gasoline’s new videos.

[@Ch28Kid]

I love aerodynamic. I think the next thing is a clean flat floor like “f1” to minimized turbulence and a functional diffuser to channel the air for a tighter / clean package. Like most hatch, the area between the glass and near bumper generates a lot of weird vortices, so cleaning that would be the last thing I would do. As a engineer, the hardest thing is ‘side skirt” and keeping air on the bottom package as smooth as possible. If you want to go a bit further, you can find the cheapest way to scan your car as a model and run basic fluid dynamics simulation on any modern 3D software. It’s a lot cheaper than a wind tunnel. Good luck!

[@addeats]

Progresssss!!!! Yesss!!! It'll be in unlimited Class next year (I hope). Let's make it come true Ben! 😁👍

[@samkunugi5319]

Try a gurney flap on that wing if you need more rear downforce. Can add downforce without too much drag. That’s how the 917k’s worked so well! Love the car keep it up!

[@KevinTheRant]

I’m a huge fan of F1 and just finished Adrian Newey’s How to Build a Car book. All this talk about aero is exciting to watch. Awesome content.

[@ALLINONEFILM]

Honestly, i love the videos you post and honestly i wait for it to drop all the time . Love all the changes and performance in the car.

[@TheW3s]

You don't even know how bad I want a EK style Civic because of this series. Keep up the awesome job guys!

[@john-sy1bw]

This car is so nicely built. The lines are so good.

[@jordonboring3729]

Was never a fan of your older videos. It felt weird and something was off, but these newer videos are amazing. I'm excited for every release so far, watching the miatas and the honda is great.

[@psewgobind]

Back in the early 90s, the local performance shop had a Spoon engine and offered it up to complete my 98 Civic Hatch build... If I can only go back in time :-(. ....at the time, no one here in North America thought a front drive could be a real race car and I didn't realize I'd never own another car with that level of handling.

[@GreenNoman]

I love your videos man! and I cannot agree more with the direction that you are going with your civic. I met you once at gridlife midwest before covid hit. keep it real man!

[@JDM_ez]

Damn, you guys never run out of ideas and parts 🔥🔥

[@levesquejp4964]

This is my new favorite channel ! I feel this racing life through your videos its purely genius to me ! Love it

[@pocholo151299]

Hello Ben, just a tip. I would recomend to put some kind of net or even a executive shock in the intake of the radiator. If you don't, then the radiator is going to be destroyed by the gravel of the cars in front. I say this by experience. Nice content and keep going

[@phinkss]

“I’m still under weight”.....installs carbon bits LOL! Love this series, wish it was more often!

[@JDM_DREEZY]

This car keeps getting better and better! Well done Ben! 👏

[@FutureBoosted]

So glad you made a video on this! I sent a dm asking about the build, the video answered my questions!

[@jameswedding9635]

Imagine driving a porsche on a track and waving a Honda Civic past you...

[@Andrew-hh3ol]

Porsches are surprisingly bad at the track because they are no where near setup enough to be competitive you need to get new suspension, drop it closer to the ground , make the coilovers stiff af you need strut braces and chassis stiffeners and you should probably run a smaller rim size for the track all they have is speed and they’re only setup for being a straight line car a beginner would possibly be faster in a Honda Civic then a Porsche if the civic is modified because they’re usually more used to a fwd car

[@Osprey1994]

You guys are focused on the Porsche and it makes you all sound bitter, but he passed other cars that are running track setups and he was gapping a Camari that also looked like it was running somewhat of a track build.

[@thatcopenguy]

I met a guy on a particular German race track ( I heard it's really famous ) who had a 400hp turbo civic. My god that thing was fast. I was in a minivan so every car just overtakes me but that Civic flies by as fast as GT3RS and any other supercars. Doesn't sound as good as a Porsche N/A Flat 6 tho.

[@Skittlezz45]

Put the same driver and purpose behind both cars and the Porsche isn't getting beat. Period.

[@TheDaemon66]

@@Andrew-hh3ol what are you talking about? Porsche’s are probably the best out of the box track cars you can get. There’s a reason caymans and 911s win almost every group test they are in. And GT Porsche’s are literally made to be tracked. And finally any race car will be better than a road car. That’s just common sense.

[@olliegti6]

Love your videos and approach, this Civic has come a long way. I look forwards to seeing how you get on in competition

[@foxtrotkilo9772]

I always look forward to watching these on the weekends!

[@alchemistboy7765]

Honestly, watching these videos inspires me to rebuild my integra for track. I have started ordering parts for this season and I'm super excited to see what my car can do.

[@Mai.LostArk]

Seeing this car evolve is amazing.

[@DrinkTan]

Great job on the aero bits. I'm sure Mike has mentioned this to you but you will also need a vent/heat extractor on the hood. It not only reduces under hood temperature but also let's out the air coming in from the radiator vent and reduce lift. If the class you are competing in doesn't allow it then ignore my advise.

[@bryanchocolatl4029]

Watching their videos actually gives me ideas to make my car better

[@AruKun]

Changes to the powertrain.... EXCITING!

[@TastyGnocchi]

Just so you know, drill bits can be re purposed and with a grinder and steady hands can be sharpened. We used to do this at the machine shop top avoid buying drill bits when they go dull.

[@cameron9122]

Loved that reverse tracking shot @ 7:23

[@jihadjoe]

The extra bracing probably helps since it's weight that's mounted so low. Remember how Penske's Mustangs in 2018/2019 intentionally used heavy steel for their exhaust coz it put a LOT of mass low on the car? That's the sort of stuff you can do instead of addding ballast when your car is under weight!

[@christianmorales4886]

I’m surprised someone hasn’t said ‘Why do you need a big wing on a civic. It’s front wheel drive’

[@vcdrny]

Love how he sneaked in that last shot overtaking a corvette.

[@vinie.-z.3565]

Some of the best quality videos on KZbin.

[@koritousnickelni6734]

To think that this car went from a cheap reliable Honda civic Type R replica to a full blown time-attack car.

[@asylumville8544]

How many Tshirts would I have to buy to get a video every 3-4 day's 🤔 Love the content.

[@jadenquintana9482]

This thing has turned out so damn good! It looks amazing!

[@Princess_kitty14]

match of the century guys! Ben VTEC sound vs James VTEC sounds

[@mehdimohamed6291]

Watching this man slowly go down the modification deep dark rabbit hole.

[@carenthusiast172]

8:42 Front bumper: Bwahhhhh My brain with voice of Kimi Raikkonen: _bwoah_

[@patricksantos361]

Its Coming along nicely, good luck on the upcoming season.

[@MitchCarveth]

Proper video👌 that car is going to break some hearts on the track.

[@RickyGinn]

You guys deserve every bit of hype you get. The Civic is so sick. I have a ek hatch my self, Its Rhd Turbo B16b. Its a blast to drive, next time your come around iowa let me know. Ill let ya take it out.

[@adamstilldrives]

The journey this little civic has made is amazing and inspiring. Usually after they are built to af decent road spec they soon get sold and broken for parts, I'm glad this one evolved into a functional beast. Looking forward to the power train upgrades. I'm hoping for a Super charger or some nasty meth fuel system

[@ThatBustedVQ]

That carbon really changed the look of the car, I love it

[@gundamzaku214]

i was just thinking, with all that aero, you're ready for morpowa!!! great video as always, keep up the great work and can't wait till the next video!!!

[@goorasan]

Now looks like real track machine. Props!

[@lealue442]

Where are you going to vent the hot air from the radiator, Ben?

[@fernandocavawatson2808]

Like this , I saw the Honda since the beginning it's turning amazing

[@AltitudeProductions]

Was cool to meet you while I was working the false grid over at VIR! Love the videos man

[@chanhuor]

Probably 1 of my favorite EK build on KZbin.

[@BajaDeezNutz]

The wing looks kinda funny on a hatchback. Definitely something to get used to seeing lol

[@evilf23]

Loving the evolution of the hatch over the years. You guys are killing it the last few years. Hope to catch you guys in Williamsburg some day! If you see a clean gray TSX with a bunch of Euro R parts say hi!

[@tanmay______]

G&G videos always drop at night here, what a cool way to end the day!

[@UncleRico371]

Definitely one of my top five favorite channels right now!!

[@griffithhawkinson9278]

She's looking serious! I would think the smaller frontal area of the mirrors would bring a bit of a benefit, although not a big one. Every little bit though!

[@thekralj9600]

i love how you added weight with that carbon fiber bonnet and mirrors mia is looking goooooood😍😍

[@KTM228KID]

My favorite channel on youtube

[@_Oliver-]

Best high quality videos on this platform such a nice build so awesome we get to follow the build at first I didn’t know splitters were made from wood

[@juliendaoust6391]

Totally crazy! Keep going Ben its awesome for us to watch. High quality build.

[@MikeAllen]

I’ve seen the professional awesome evo in the flesh. It’s amazing

[@herobrinenuno]

Really really excited to see whats gonna happen with this car

[@frankenelimtangco2400]

That civic already comes a loong waay! I remember you drivin it into canada and all other places on the roadtrip. She's a big girl now!

[@14thtn35]

Ben! Have you tried adding a gurney flap to the rear wing? Since downforce balance is really close this might be what youre looking for and it doesn't add too much drag as opposed to a bigger wing!👍

[@acematthewocampo2181]

Powertrain upgrade. I’ll definitely wait for that. I’m more of a galant fan but you’re making me want to have a civic even though I like crx.

[@JTmoto]

Things shaping up to look like a proper time attack car, awesome!

[@christophernestor]

Always top notch videos. I anticipate every video. I can’t understand why this channel is at 5 mil subscribers

[@datboy5009]

This is inspiring me to finish school ASAP so I can build a race car myself. Love these videos ❤️❤️❤️❤️