More misleading from other companies, even worse this time!

[@gt86life50]

You should probably explain WHY in these videos instead of just "they are lying". For anyone curious, the reason it's only pulling 122 or 300 watts is because the impedance of the coil is rising due to the movement of the cone. This is commonly referred to as back-EMF. The lower the frequency you play, the more cone movement you have, and the coil moving through the magnet is what generates this back-EMF. So when the sub is in a box, the box adds pressure to the cone so that it does not move as much, which in turn generates less back-emf and allows the sub to pull MORE power from the amplifier. Typically, the higher notes you play, the more power the sub can pull, hence why it drew more watts when he went from 30-35hz and 35-40hz. EMF Audio is correct in this video, I just wanted to explain the reasoning behind it instead of people just thinking its magic.

[@EMFAudio]

It isn't just cone movement that causes impedance differences. This is demonstrated in an enclosure where at tuning the cone movement is the least but impedance is the highest. The sub doesn't pull power from the amp, the sub does what the amp tells it to do. The volume knob and gain position dictate voltage, impedance dictates current. Those two combined give you wattage. Even in free-air, inductance plays a role in impedance change so it's not clean cut on cone movement then either.

[@gt86life50]

What else causes impedance differences then? Because there are no other outside forces. I guess the best way to put it would be that as you approach the resonant frequency of the driver(free-air) the cone starts to move inversely with the signal from the amplifier which generates the highest impedance. But either way, it is PURELY based on the coil moving through the magnet. Also, when it comes to current flow the device being powered is actually what pulls current from the power source. To say that the sub doesn't pull power from the amp is asinine, because the subwoofer is in control of the impedance, not the amplifier. All electrical devices work like this. When you plug your phone charger into the wall it pulls whatever current it needs from the 120v power lines. The voltage stays the same(ignoring line voltage drop) and the current is dictated by the impedance of the device. While I agree that the amplifier "tells the sub what to do" by changing the voltage, the amplifier has no control over the impedance of the driver, so the driver is what dictates the actual current, and therefore power drawn.

[@EMFAudio]

In terms of real world application, different aspects of the enclosure and installation effect impedance. Enclosure dimensions, enclosure placement, doors or window being open or closed, overall SPL, air temperature, and coil temperature all have a factor in it. Any time there is a force applied back on the cone impedance can change, even with the same amount of cone movement. Heat applied to the coil adds resistance, changing impedance. Your comparison of devices use of electricity isn't accurate. Yes, your phone pulls as much current as it wants/needs when you plug it into the wall, and your car amplifier does the same thing. When it is producing power, it demands current to produce that power. The output however, does not work that way. The amplifier puts out more or less current because the speaker is dictating the impedance, not the output. There is a response from the amplifier to a condition, not demand and supply. If you put a resistor on the output, the resistor doesn't say "give me 20 amps of current" because that would mean it would ALWAYS be 20 amps, which isn't the case. It isn't dynamically changing so if it did draw power like you say, wouldn't it be the same amount all the time?

[@BrqDwgs505]

Much appreciated knowledge

[@CrashPCcz]

There is even more to that... :-D

[@bigvell02]

Nice Video share. That is exactly why I tell people the truth! I plan on opening up a shop soon and the thing that will separate me from my competition is honesty, clean work, safety, educating the customer and offering services other shops don't.

[@muppetpaster]

If you are serious in this comment ,then that is the best way to adverise people not to come to your shop. If this is your level of knowledge.

[@vitalgod]

pukpukpuk wtf is adverise

[@vitalgod]

Dude you’ll get more high-end loyal customers that way, don’t listen to these other people!

[@AllaboutTheWoodrows]

It all comes down to cost and quality the best quality at affordable prices obviously it has to be a profit but still has to beat competitors prices ultimately

[@blech71]

I’ll gladly eat at a place with decent food with out of this world service, cleanliness and good attitude over out of this world food with mediocre environment & bad attitude. Price becomes a negligible factor after a good service relationship has been established. As the old dood said, “the bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the cheap price is forgotten” And that goes for all facets of a business and can be applied accordingly; from services rendered to a commodity sold. I’m sure most would agree.

[@DYLANTRIES]

Wow!! Thanks for the real knowledgeable information!! I'm 20 and am trying to learn as much as I can about car audio as I want a good sound in my 1997 camaro

[@uptobatentertainment]

What is the model of the clamp you are using in this video? Thanks edit: got it when you zoomed in ... this will make life easy wow !!!

[@UltraCon79]

I'm gain setting for clean power. What test tones put out the highest wattage between 29 to 125hz, and from 80 to 20k hz?

[@EMFAudio]

If you're talking about setting it with no speaker connected, it should put out the same power at all frequencies within the crossover bandwidth. If your crossover is set to say low pass 80 hz, above 80 hz will produce less power. The higher the frequency, the less power it will make. With a speaker connected that isn't predictable. Impedance is dynamic, the lowest impedance will produce the most power, highest impedance will produce the least power. So that will depend on tuning and driver resonance. It's a case by case scenario.

[@UltraCon79]

EMF Audio thanks. In the past I set gains with a 50hz pure sinewave and used a 2 ohm load made from 5 hair dryers connected in parallel. I just saw how your wattage changed with frequency and I guess I did not understand dynamic impedance caused by woofer movements.

[@AB-80X]

@@UltraCon79 While the theory is that the amp should put out the same power, unfortunately this is not always the case in the real world. Many headunits are also net completely flat. When I do it, I use 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60 80 and 100 for a sub amp. I've seen way too many amps do odd things to only rely on one tone. When setting up a full range, I use 500, 800, 1k 3k and 8k as well. If I set up an amp for mid or high, I start @ 100 hz and use the mentioned frequencies above 100. Also, if you use your EQ to boost any frequency, you need to use a test tone to reset the gain using a test tone of that particular frequency. Personally I prefer to just reduce the output on the DSP by the same db as much as the highest point I have boosted on the EQ. If I have added say 2.5 db somewhere, I'll reduce the output of the DSP channels by the same db. That being said, I only boost anything on an eq as a very last resort.

[@akolngto9314]

What do you mean by 30hz & 40hz tuning? Is it the box? Or the freq from music? I am curious. Coz my box tuned to 32.3hz. As understand, ypu said a waste of wtts . Thanks sir.

[@akolngto9314]

Coz i want more power from my amp. No wasting of power.

[@Supercharged1976]

What volume are they playing at on the deck vs what you're playing at? They cranking it all the way to max?

[@EMFAudio]

Flexin Five Hundred they've only stated max gain and stated it's getting over rated power because the gain is all the way up and it's wired to 0.5 ohm. No showing of volume level or actual power, or even output voltage.

[@Supercharged1976]

Misleading advertising is par for the course with sub par companies (Crunch, Boss, exc.)

[@EMFAudio]

Flexin Five Hundred People are eating it up though, responding about how amazing it is.

[@Supercharged1976]

Shit let em waste their money...they'll learn.

[@EMFAudio]

That just makes them sour on everybody, and some don't learn from their mistakes.

[@clipciti6977]

I think all companies should worry about themselves and not so much about everyone else. Regardless of whether they were accurate or not...I happen to have the nep advanced and running 1000 watts rms to it and she slams and sounds good. They make solid subs for the price. Everyone is worried about bashing each other for that extra buck.

[@muppetpaster]

point being?? You cannot measure this way and state that they are "lying". Makes no sense.

[@EMFAudio]

It's recreating what they were doing which conflicts with what they were saying. They were saying the amp puts 100% power to the sub in free air and it takes it, the video demonstrates that isn't possible under those conditions. Therefore showing they're lying.

[@leighpetersen3947]

Hahahaha. Boooom!

[@leighpetersen3947]

I would like to get a banhammer or another subwoffer from your line up.I need 2 12s that can actually handle 2000 watts with out spending 400 each subwoofer . let me know what emf has to offer or if there is any promo codes.I got my nep for 175 on sale this summer.

[@BrainHurricanes]

Hi, interesting test, nice to learn. Thanks for the information! It would be nice to know if other factors are also playing, like fase shift between current and voltage. Could you do the same test, but with a seperate volt meter over the speaker leads and a current meter in series with the leads and multiply the results ? I'm just curious if it would give about the same result. What I also wonder is if those meters give accurate reading @ 30Hz, because in think they are designed to operate @ 50-60Hz. Only, what do you mean by misleading from other companies ? They tested the excursion of their subwoofer on a 3.5KW Amp. Seen on the picture in your video, because that is the information we get. I'm not saying you are lying, but this could make YOU look bad, if you don't give a link to the video or information you are refering to. I'm fairly new to this topic and I don't know "them". Maybe other viewers don't know "them" either. I'm missing "them" saying "our subwoofer draws x amps @30Hz sine wave and max excursion, so it is taking x W." Or something similar. Thanks.

[@EMFAudio]

This was over a year ago, the people that know, know. If I mention names people get whiny about naming names and say it's "unprofessional". You can't make everyone happy, but you can make no one happy.

[@BrainHurricanes]

​@@EMFAudio I'm currently trying to fixing a verry old almost completely burnt Sub (Philips PXS120, made in USA) for my son and by searching on cooling of the voice coil stumbled on your channel, didn't see the date. For the rest I think it's best, in my opinion, to focus on the quality of your work and avoid pointing fingers (could always backfire or end up in an endless discussion). You make a lot of people happy teaching and you seem to make quality speakers. Sorry for the rumblings of my thoughts. Have a fantastic day!

[@akolngto9314]

@@EMFAudio What do you mean by 30hz & 40hz tuning? Is it the box? Or the freq from music? I am curious. Coz my box tuned to 32.3hz. As understand, ypu said a waste of wtts . Thanks sir.

[@K_Vang23]

Is the Banhammer going to be on sale again during tax season?

[@EMFAudio]

The only time they go on sale is Black Friday usually, they won't be on sale again till then most likely.

[@lucamarcel902]

Whats the model name of that clampmeter that also measures watts?

[@denshi-oji494]

It is an Amprobe ACD-51NAV. Nice little meter! You can also "Google" it and read the manual on-line. Of course to measure WATTS, you hook it up to measure the Voltage and the Current at the same time.

[@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083]

All nep said was that the sub was on a 3.5 k. In the title at least. Idk if they claim to actually be giving it that much power or not. But one could say you're doing the same thing, only on a 12k amp. It's a 12 inch sub, free air, on a 12k amp, you're not claiming it's getting 12k watts though. I have to go watch their video now lol.

[@DJInclined]

Anybody know where in newengland he is located?

[@caesarcesareo3984]

DieselPunk Cummins sterling ct

[@mpugne]

So I'm guessing their fs is right around 32-33hz.

[@EMFAudio]

Yup, 33 hz.

[@gsd321123gh]

mark Andrew nevermind I guess I was wrong

[@collinsmwaura1833]

Does the amp have a subsonic filter... Probably lowered the power level at lower frequencies??

[@EMFAudio]

A tone was played.

[@michaelkafoure786]

What were the gains set to on the amp?

[@EMFAudio]

Michael Kafoure That doesn't mean anything. Amps can make full power all the way down or all the way up. It's relative to the input signal voltage.

[@michaelkafoure786]

EMF Audio so are you saying the sub will only pull what it wants power wise? I'm not arguing but I like to do/see/ask ? About comparative testing. Also how can someone bottom out a sub mechanically on a smaller amp? Also I'm assuming you can with that sub you are testing with.

[@michaelkafoure786]

Not pull but take the power from the amp.

[@EMFAudio]

Michael Kafoure No, amps put out a given power at a given impedance regardless of what speaker is connected to it. Or in those stupid amp Dyno videos, a resistor. The gain adjustment is to match the input sensitivity to the signal voltage. I should do a video on this subject, people seem to be confused about how amps don't just put out rated power all the time.

[@michaelkafoure786]

EMF Audio I understand that the amp will produce different outputs of power based on impedance it is seeing. Which is always varying. What I don't understand is how your 12k amp isn't putting anything close to rated to that sub. Why? Shouldn't it see well over 7k power if your gain is turned up, head unit is turned up, voltage and amps are proper on power side of test bench. Also the amp dyno videos are not stupid but they are a tool. It is a measuring device. It is not a realistic representation of what everyone will see power wise because everyone's setup is different however we can tell if an amp will make actual rated power at certain ohm loads. A user can read what the output is anywhere from .5ohm up to 4+ ohms which will tell you what kind of realistic power your subs will see at a given ohm load.

[@Ronco160]

keep the facts coming!

[@oSTYNCLSYo]

I need 4" coil 5k wrms 18s what do you have? I need something thats comparable to the tc lms 5400

[@EMFAudio]

Jarad C The Ermagerd v2 is beyond comparable but exactly what you want.

[@oSTYNCLSYo]

EMF Audio neo motor?

[@EMFAudio]

Yes, it's our patented square motor.

[@oSTYNCLSYo]

EMF Audio do you have an email I can contact you?

[@EMFAudio]

sales at emfcaraudio.com

[@jamest.5001]

what a great name to put on a subwoofer! I was skeptical of them putting 3500w on a free air. looks if they did a burp with 3500w. free air. it blow the coil through the cone! they sub looks OK. I like a almost sound quality sub. but I like to make some SPL also. I just heard of your company. like yesterday. years ago this was basically kicker and JL & Pioneer country. I think the closest audio dealer is Walmart now. so we are in a black hole for subwoofers. I'm studying sub's for a new system. I like 12", 15" & 18" I don't think they dont make anything smaller in my book. thanks for putting things straight!

[@EMFAudio]

The sub you're referring to is just a catalog sub. I can tell you from customer feedback they don't perform well. People buy them because of hype and looking all great, then they suck and turn around and sell them. Literally the only people I've seen praising them are dealers selling them.

[@godzilla7391]

Very nice and informative. Those are some nice looking subs. Im on a budget, a very tight one at that , but those do look tempting, and you seem to really know your stuff.

[@EMFAudio]

You might be interested in the Lowballer line www.emfcaraudio.com/emf-audio-lowballer/ it is more focused on budget performance. They really are unbeatable at that price and a good bit above it.

[@jeremyblucherable]

Need alot more info like maybe your volume is really low?what ohm are this single voice coil? I have personally clamped 600 watts at 20 hz free air on a 15 in sub with only a 4500 verified by an smd amm1

[@EMFAudio]

The volume level doesn't matter. The gain could be set for maximum power at nearly no volume or set for maximum volume or anywhere in between. The impedance of a single coil doesn't mean anything when both coils are connected, and in reality, the impedance doesn't matter in any of this either. The wattage shown is the wattage it's receiving.

[@mariocisternas298]

Try Targa here from South Africa,rated subs at 20000w “peak” at only 2500 “rms” but cant even take 600 rms mechanically 🥲🥲

[@bradleewitt4048]

Ok so let me get this right, your saying bc sub is not in a enclosure, it’s not seeing full power of amp?

[@EMFAudio]

The sub isn't seeing full amp power because the volume isn't turned up. The volume knob is what changes the power level. It moves more easily on it's own because it's not in an enclosure, it will reach physical limits quicker. The video is demonstrating how little power it takes to make one move free air when they were claiming it was getting 100% of amp power.

[@tonyv33ee]

Weird...I just got my new subs, free aired them and had to turn it down when I put them in the enclosure at the same volume

[@subdynoman]

@@tonyv33ee yes that can happen at certain frequencies, some call it box rise. The box will load and assist depending on frequency.

[@1452-w3b]

What multimeter is that

[@muppetpaster]

Amprobe, dunno type tho

[@JonHunter80]

what a great deal! SOLD!! can't wait to hear this in the car, goin to start with one 12'' whats the max rms that u can possibly push outa that beast? thanks

[@EMFAudio]

Amir NY City We will never recommend using higher than rated power, no manufacturer will.

[@niZSht561]

Nice sub there! I wonder how they will do in a home theater application?

[@EMFAudio]

They would do pretty well I think. I was thinking about replacing the 15 year old sub in my home theater with a Banhammer 15.

[@1-Six-dee]

Can. U tell. Me. Exactly how u r getting watts out a a mm?

[@EMFAudio]

Short answer, no. Long answer is very long.

[@gavinmcclure8047]

Nice looking sub 😎.

[@jasonandrewz2214]

Wait that's amps right not watts? Watts is amps x volts?

[@EMFAudio]

The meter is showing watts (note it says kW next to the number, for kilowatts). That meter is taking voltage and amperage simultaneously and giving a wattage also accounting for power factor.

[@AaronBilger]

i'm wondering if a sub that has an fs of 31hz vs 26hz will the 26hz fs get much lower and louder at that vs the 31hz fs sub? we talking about when it's in a box tuned to 30hz

[@EMFAudio]

There are way more factors than the Fs to contribute to that.

[@Kalmortha]

It's not like anyone needs that anyway, unless you're trying to make a sounds system that is intended to fill a football stadium, my 10in 500watt in my trunk is enough and hell even a 20watt 5in sub for a home theatre system is fine too. No one needs anything over that, even if it is misleading, 3.5kwatts would be overkill, hell even my 500watt sub is a little over kill.

[@whocares5188]

WRONG! a 10 inch sub is crap it belongs in a barbie car.

[@Kalmortha]

@@whocares5188 Your funny.

[@davejo2611]

the current draw is reduced because the resistance is HIGHER at resonance. just look at the darn impedance curve charts ... what do you think is going to happen ...

[@EMFAudio]

I know that, you know that, people that don't know anything about speakers peddling catalog gear making huge claims don't.

[@ThatsToughTV]

I like the round surround.

[@pierregervais1567]

Love your channel! Super informative. Does the amprobe measure watts as VA or VxAxPF?

[@EMFAudio]

I haven't checked, I know it will measure PF on it's own so I don't see why it wouldn't include that in watts. For the purpose of comparison you should always use the same meter which is what I use that for. "accuracy" is less of a factor than consistency for that purpose.

[@pierregervais1567]

@@EMFAudio thanks for the reply! have you ever compared it to term lab magnum to see if it's in the same ball park? I'm asking cuz I'd rather invest in that meter as opposed to the amm-1. It has more of the features I'm looking for and is in stock (amm1 has been out of stock for quite some time now.) Also, could you the THD function on a car audio application?

[@EMFAudio]

@@pierregervais1567 I have used the THD function on car amps. I have compared to a Termlab but that was 4 or 5 years ago. I remember it being close but I don't remember how close. I don't remember it being more than 10% difference at least.

[@pierregervais1567]

Many thanks!

[@pierregervais1567]

EMF audio you should do a video with your acd-51nav and term lab for a wattage comparison. I appreciate all the info you put out, thx.

[@Superfreshdaily]

Yea but you can’t get the banhammer 12? I asked you about them not too long ago and you tried to steer me to the 15s because they were in stock. So yea they’re not 409 shipped to my door if they’re not in stock

[@EMFAudio]

This video was published a year ago. We had them in stock then.

[@matthewdefer8215]

I just wanted to say it’s awesome how emf answers all the comments and takes the time to keep the info flowing!! Thanks EMF!!!!!!

[@frankrivera9083]

I don't have anything rude to say about any company out there but i will say I do really love SUNDOWN AUDIO PRODUCTS and i will say that I really do love those badass EMF AUDIO PRODUCTS TO as of right now i have some SUNDOWN AUDIO SUBS A FEW DIFFERENT SET'S OF THEM AND IM PLANNING ON GETTING SOME EMF AUDIO SUBS I HEARD THOSE BADASS SUBS CAN HANDLE SOME POWER SO 1 WAY OR ANOTHER I WILL HAVE SOME BUT THERE R SO MANY DIFFERENT AWESOME COMPANY'S OUT THERE THAT IT IS KINDA HARD TO CHOOSE BUT I'M A TRU BASSHEAD4LIFE SO TO ALL THE GREAT AUDIO COMPANY'S OUT THERE THANK YOU 💯 FOR MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR US BASSHEADS TO BASS ON ✌🏼🔈🔉🔊

[@muppetpaster]

Stop screaming!! no LOUD MUSIC here.

[@denshi-oji494]

@@muppetpaster I think he has been listening too much already to loud music, hence the SHOUTING! :-)

[@BenaresDarkness]

This would be more convincing if you would have shown the gain setting and what the volume was set on other wise I will have to assume you had the gain barely just barely up and the head unit.

[@EMFAudio]

So you didn't understand the content of the video at all? The gain doesn't matter, the volume doesn't matter, the actual power going to the sub is what matters. The demonstration was actual power the sub is seeing and mechanically what is happening. It's got a 14,000 watt amp on it in this video, doing what you're suggesting would destroy that sub for no good reason, even in an enclosure.

[@BenaresDarkness]

@@EMFAudio the gain doesn't matter? Yeah my ass turn that gain up and volume up it'll pop that sub. I've done this plenty of times so yeah gain and volume does matter

[@EMFAudio]

Again, you didn't understand the content of the video at all. When you're playing at a particular power level, the gain doesn't matter, because you're at a target power. The idea isn't achieving maximum power. The entire video was done because a company was claiming they had a sub getting 3,500 watts free air at 30 hz because a 3,500 watt amp was on it. This video demonstrates how you can get full throw out of a sub with the same power rating nowhere near that power in free air, exactly how they were doing it.

[@EMFAudio]

Perhaps you should watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5rXfY2ljctmeZY

[@BenaresDarkness]

@@EMFAudio you can put 3500 to it free air I've seen it before not 3500 watt amp but I've seen one do it's power free air

[@leighpetersen3947]

I have a duel 1 ohm NEP authority hooked to a skar rp2000 wired at 2 ohm. It is about 1400watts going to it. Long story short I broke it with less that rated power in less than 2 weeks. When I called them they said they will send me a new one for 140$. I'm gonna get it and hope that I can adjust the subsonic filter to not let it extend to far I guess.if that one pops I'm going to a new brand.

[@EMFAudio]

They're answer to a warranty claim was charging you to buy another one? Are you sure it was because you were playing below tuning?

[@leighpetersen3947]

No . I'm am not sure.i had the subsonic set to 26. I used a formula I learned on KZbin from someone the guy at nep said to tune the subsonic filter to 2 below port tuning witch would be 30. .the sub calls for 2ft tuned to 32. So I paid 180 for a box that is 2ft tuned to 32. I'm gonna get another one for 150 and hopefully sell it for a little more than that and buy a different brand. I was kind of shocked when he said he would sell me one at half price instead of replacing it.especially since he claimed 1400 watts wasn't enough to cause any damage and it could handle twice that much.

[@EMFAudio]

@@leighpetersen3947 As you see, they make a lot of claims that don't hold up. You may have figured out this video is in reference to them. There are a number of factors to determine what's correct for a subsonic setting but I will tell you the same thing would have happened regardless based on what you're telling me. I rarely use a subsonic filter, I tune for what is being played and I don't play much below tuning if at all.

[@leighpetersen3947]

I might be looking into getting some of your emf subwoofers here real Soon. Please let me know if there is any coupon codes or sales going on or coming up. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you

[@EMFAudio]

@@leighpetersen3947 The Lowballer is on sale right now, no other sales planned right now.

[@skewty]

These numbers are poop anyways; more smoke and mirrors. The true output of an inductive load (speaker) (measured in VARs) cannot be accurately measured by a cheap meter because it goes out of phase with the voltage. The audio business is full of these garbage measurements because it makes people think they are able to compare products. Their goal is for you to NOT be able to accurately compare their product. An un-smoothed frequency response taken in an echo free chamber is all you need. It shows output at a given frequency. It shows how it isn't even across the frequency spectrum. A sub in free-air is likely to throw its cone when pushed to limits; it needs the resistance of a box to not self destruct. The video author can play something at lower volume knowing most KZbinrs will hear a clipping mic and be happy to accept what is being presented to them as truth. These tests can also be easily gamed depending on where the sub is placed in the room and what frequency is being played. Another thing is the mic being used is likely not even in its sensitivity to different frequencies and the results it measures need to be heavily adjusted to make it accurate.

[@EMFAudio]

You do realize this video nor the one it's referencing has anything to do with sound quality or frequency response, right? Literally 100% of your comment has nothing to do with the content of this video.

[@gsd321123gh]

I don't think they were doing 30 Hertz I think they were doing 20 and just raise up the volume I see what you're saying but when I seen that video I couldn't understand myself from New England

[@EMFAudio]

That's even worse! What do you stand to benefit lying about what frequency it's playing?

[@micahevans3443]

That 12k like a stack of amps but solid damn shit prolly heavyasf

[@EMFAudio]

It's close to 70 lbs.

[@kaybowers3849]

@@EMFAudio is this sub worth buying

[@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083]

N.E.P. ,Sundown and EMF are close competitors I take it? Except isn't sundown and emf almost the same company? Or are the same?

[@AB-80X]

Sure seems like it. They must really not like competition. Not a very classy video.

[@21tom21lin21son21]

ABOlsen69X literally nothing about Sean or EMF has ever been, or will ever be classy lmao.

[@jonathanpinders.r.5627]

Those videos they free air the crap out of them good point on here

[@Savvy_VR]

So if this is true, why can’t I buy a 300 watt amp instead of a 3.5k amp

[@EMFAudio]

You can, but you still have to consider that free air mechanical limits aren't the same as in enclosure limits. You also tend to have more impedance rise free air so you need a bigger amp to get the same power.

[@jimcatx3090]

I have a old ppi amp that would blow the coils out of that cheap speaker

[@EMFAudio]

Then you should probably learn how to setup an amp so it's not hard clipping all the time, and learn what a cheap speaker is.

[@1-Six-dee]

Worst thing is nep is just using a Chinese generic speaker and saying that it is something great is is basically an x series or a zvx series

[@EMFAudio]

Your mistake there is saying a ZVX is on par with an X series.

[@arnoldsalazar5851]

Wtf is a New England providore?? Is that’s how you spell it.

[@EMFAudio]

It's a company who came in hot with a bunch of catalog product and deceptive business practices, and a year later I'm not sure if they're even still around.

[@lowhertzhighspl]

2:50 *dying

[@danielbeavers8701]

12k represents the amount of the 10 year lone you have to get to buy one of these bad boys correct? Lol! Jk. But they are really really exspinsive!

[@EMFAudio]

Would you buy a car for $1,000 advertised as doing over 200 MPH?

[@danielbeavers8701]

@@EMFAudio O! I totally get it. There nice. You have to pay to play!

[@Revolutionaudio1]

Low baller rms?

[@EMFAudio]

Originally 750, rev 1 900.

[@fallofthezombies1379]

That's funny you busting their balls. Guys better pay attention lol. Some people are clueless.

[@marcusworld87]

Is emf another jld audio sub from asia?

[@EMFAudio]

Marcus'World EMF is a brand not a sub, and we have been building subs in house since 2013.

[@marcusworld87]

EMF Audio if that's the case will have to pick up some equipment from you all, used to only buy from Alibaba, while the can take a lot of power, they are a little distorted

[@EMFAudio]

Marcus'World I don't know why you'd do that, it costs more than buying some brands product and you get a warranty and support from that company. Additionally, you don't know what you're getting. They do supply companies with good stuff, and they supply companies with not so good stuff. They build what is designed, so the random stuff you've been buying is probably just bad designs.

[@materusendic4896]

I wish i could get this sub Shipping would be too much😭

[@EMFAudio]

Shipping to where?

[@materusendic4896]

@@EMFAudio croatia😢

[@EMFAudio]

@@materusendic4896 Yes that would be very expensive.

[@gsd321123gh]

Yeah

[@colorblind1983]

Witchcraft!

[@jeffreesrees9557]

looks like an old alpine deck from late 90s

[@EMFAudio]

They all do, they never really changed much but the displays a little bit on some. Their double din and flipout monitors look the same too, they need to update graphics a lot.

[@buckyflex1]

I'm here cuz I'm in the market for a sub and you are selling me my friend.

[@AB-80X]

While I don't care about either company, why base your business on talking smack? You could make a video detailing the capabilities of your driver, and the inform properly so that people know what to look for. This video do not educate very much, it just serves to trash another company. Way to stay classy...

[@EMFAudio]

Our business isn't based on talking smack. We have made videos detailing capabilities of our drivers. This video was made because THEY made a video doing that, but it was based on lies. You have to point things out to educate, people were going ga-ga for the misleading display they were putting on. The response from this video has been positive, they became educated on the matter. The only people complaining are the ones that got duped.