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[@ElrocStone]

I remember driving through the city cycle hangouts, seeing the chamois cream addicts looking for a fix. It makes it hard to get a coffee when they are constantly hassling you for some cream in their shorts.

[@jonpoon3896]

When gravel was new, max clearance on bikes were 700x38-40 and 650b x47. But now more gravel bikes can take 700x47-50, so the smaller wheel isn’t as necessary anymore except on XS size bikes

[@richeeg3271]

I'm surprised they didn't mention the weight advantage. For the same price, 650b are usually going to be lighter. That's why I'd say they're a good option for budget gravel bikes

[@lenolenoleno]

​@@richeeg3271 That's because the weight advantage is moot and in many cases doesn't exist. 650b WTB Byway 47mm 535g + DT GR531 650b rims 500g = 1035g for tyre and rim. 700c 44mm = 479g + DT GR531 rim 535g = 1014g. The 650b setup is 3mm wider, but actually weighs more. It has less inertia sure (so spins up a bit quicker) but people aren't riding 650b gravel wheels to optimise for sprint intervals. 650b benefits are to get increased traction/comfort, without sacrificing geometry (this is bike dependant, so long the geo is optimised for it) on size XS and some S (with conventional road geo/short front center measurements).

[@xPowello]

Chamois cream as a heavy 100kg+ rider is a god send. When you have a lot more contact pressure on your saddle any extra anti-chafe relief is welcome. When you are a 65kg racing snake? Not so much.

[@brianbrowne206]

Indeed they are speaking as people without much spare flesh to rub together. As someone also in the 90+ kg category i can agree that chamois cream is a life saver on long rides where chafe can be horrible

[@jackholloway272]

Snap, as a 108kg triathleite, Chamois cream for races is so needed

[@jmurphy3350]

Pros use chamois cream ffs

[@charlesmansplaining]

I use chamois cream religiously because I ride looooooooong rides and spend hours in the saddle. I could ride an hour without it but not on my weekend rides that are usually half the day or longer.

[@mattb6512]

115kg here, used to regularly do 200km rides, tried cream a few times, made no difference, however wear expensive knicks and have decent saddle and bike fit

[@simonlynch4204]

Underlayer can help with nipple shafe too. Bib straps directly on nipple isn't a great feeling for some...

[@charlesmansplaining]

650b wheels can be a dream come true for a custom made road frame for small riders. Think about the difficulty in geometry of 700c for someone under say 5 ft. The bike wouldn't handle the same or you couldn't get properly aero. 650b have multiple scenarios where they are the perfect size. No way they are over-rated.

[@kbd13-n9c]

Yes, but how many cyclist are sub 5ft? I bet less than there are riders over 6.5”. So I guess 750D is going to become a thing.

[@quintennn]

GCN once made a video on Emma Pooley's bike. She used to ride 650B on her tt bike and specifically used 700c on her custom bike because 650b tires, innertubes etc were a lot more difficult too get.

[@johndef5075]

Mtb is much funner than road. If I could only choose one it would be mtb.

[@christianb.1028]

I believe you, but the word "funner" doesn't exist, so you are wrong.^^

[@macvos]

@@christianb.1028 It does in the MTB world, because it believes in doing things that are fun instead of 'right' ;-)

[@christianb.1028]

@@macvos I believe you, I stand corrected.

[@alexandergilmour8451]

Chamois cream made sense with old style leather pads but not now.

[@dannylo4807]

650b works wonder with shorter riders! Especially pair with gp5000 or pro one 28-32mm. Toe over lap is a nightmare for shorter rider (160cm or shorter) with 700c with the trend of increasing wide tires (imagine going from 25mm to 32mm thats another 7mm robbed)

[@brianpurcell9058]

Nice chat guys ! Off to put the kettle on ! There's a coffee calling 👍🤣

[@vonWeizhacker69]

baselayer feel is 100% true

[@giordanostramare]

Speed play solve my problem of adjustment of the ankle, taking away knees problem and opening a bit the hips accommodating my anatomy. I would never come back.

[@MegaSixpac]

I have a Salsa and swap out my 650b’s and 29ers. Use the 650b for commuting and the 29er for trails.

[@swordmonkey6635]

The terrible/good thing about caffeine is that you can take it to relieve headaches, but if you get hooked, you have to take it to keep from getting headaches. lol Caffeine withdrawals are no joke, but one of the lighter withdrawals (physical symptoms wise) in the spectrum of drugs/chemicals. The body compensates usually within a week as long as you don't focus on the act of caffeine injection method (getting a coffee/tea/soda/energy drink).

[@MegaSixpac]

Mountain in biking is not over rated boys, much more fun and needs more energy, concentration and skill. I live within 10 minutes of 450m hills and loops of 2 or 3 hours.

[@billydeewilliams8909]

I just got a set of full bib shorts as an MTBer, and I got a baselayer to have somewhere other than my skin to put the shoulder loops.

[@psy-v]

I get bilateral saddle sores in a specific spot under my thighs. I have monster thighs... so they rub against the seat where its at its widest. ive tried the thinnest of saddles and the only thing that has helped has been a bit of chamois cream on the back of the thighs. (The other things: bike fit.. saddle experimenting, good bibs, they all helped up to a point though, admittedly. Chamois cream just brought it the final mile)

[@paulseaman7773]

In the mid 90s there was a plethora of bike manufacturers using 650b wheels as it got picked up by triathletes. So Quintana Roo , Principia etc. by 2000 I think they pretty much disappeared? Probably due to availability of tubes and tyres.

[@leightondavies8884]

Tubeless question gents : 28mm Pirelli cinturato TLR - had a 4-5mm tear that would not seal so put a tube in for now - how effective are the dart/ bung kits - do they last or should I just get a new tyre ? Love the show 👍👍

[@Mrich775]

I wouldn't use them for a long term solution, especially with having a tear v. a standard puncture, I'd suggest a new tire myself.

[@vaska00762]

​@@Mrich775 unless you're able to vulcanise the tear from inside the tyre, replacement is best bet.

[@benjaminurzua8100]

A piece of jeans or sidewall of another tire, glued inside will solve that, would comfortably use that with tubes, dont know about sealant, I stay away from that messy stuff.

[@WillPower46]

The problem with mtb is that most people need to travel to get to a trail. If you have to do that and go through all the effort you may as well load up the 300cc two stroke dirt bike and have a really good time.

[@gregschramm8180]

I have to use it cause my bike fit isn’t good enough

[@evanmclean4893]

11:19 convex not concave

[@matthewlewis2072]

Over-rated? Apple Macs

[@neilrobinson7965]

surely base layers are not overrated for winter riding?

[@stevennorth6484]

I've had trouble with my undercarriage recently, both sides! I put it down to a lack of regular riding which toughens up the skin. Coffee overpriced......yet we all have rather expensive machines. 😂

[@freesteveman9712]

Add the heat and humidity of Houston, TX and you will ride with chamois cream to reduce chaffing. I am in Scotland right now and have not worn chamois cream nor when I was riding in Norway.

[@kbd13-n9c]

I ride in NC even when it’s 100 degrees with 90+% humidty. Never used chamois cream, and I’m the person that sweats when it is 70 outside.

[@monrezee]

Good base layers work well with good jerseys

[@mf0u3021]

Baselayers are defo overrated. Except the old Assos baselayers, which are insane at wicking sweat and drying. Like some voodoo magic.

[@birkaster]

Base layer: some bib shorts rub my nipples and the layer is a good protection against that

[@vaska00762]

Why do you think women wear bras? 😅

[@birkaster]

@@vaska00762 funnily, the pros wear "bras" as well :D

[@vaska00762]

@@birkaster I keep seeing a lot of people spotting the HR monitors that a lot of pro athletes wear, and thinking "bra". I see what they mean. But let's be honest, an actual sports bra tends to be a bit more functional in multiple ways.

[@Toneychaplin]

@@vaska00762 I think he meant the jersey under the normal one that is cut off below the chest. Mainly TT riders wear it and claim it's more aerodynamic.

[@C22RLD]

Speedplay, godtier for testers

[@bigdarbs19]

I have raced on the road, TT and mountain bike for over 30 years. Mountain biking wins hands down.

[@leglessegg]

Poor plant 😢

[@RichardMigneron]

Sorry, I don't agree with you guys on Speedplays, love them, will not use any other pedal systems (on a road bike).

[@matthewlewis2072]

650b for small riders. Gravel 650b are... pointless

[@MegaSixpac]

Coffee is NOT underrated. Jimmy is not invited to my home in New Zealand.

[@bantolphbantir9605]

Chamois cream is also necessary when the body has assymetry. I have a small cyst on one side that becomes inflamed on longer rides if I don't butter it up first...it's either chamois cream or surgery.

[@silichamps7704]

Mountain biking is an awful take being overrated, the skill needed is significantly higher than road biking, and the amount of fun you can have is unmatched

[@livibam]

Said no one ever

[@anteros3584]

@@livibam 🤣🤣

[@silichamps7704]

bro, I am ranked 2nd in my state in mountain biking, I still wipe the floor with 95% of the roadies on my shop group rides, it requires no skill, it's just power @@livibam

[@vaska00762]

​@@silichamps7704MTB isn't as accessible - if you're not near a trail or facility, it can be a long journey to one, that's assuming you're even in a region or country with locations for MTB. Road cycling just needs a road bike and roads. In theory, anyone can do it.

[@silichamps7704]

@@vaska00762 Good point, ill accept that argument rather than than some 4 word negativity. I live in the US, where you're never more than half hour from some trails. I do appreciate road riding as a matter of fitness, but would never race a crit or a stage race, and just enjoy mtb far more.

[@DaxPlusPlus]

MTB is not so bloody focused on FTP, HR, miles, ridiculous rules and race faces (why so serious?). MTB is more skillful, more fun and tends to be more sociable.

[@randomdude4620]

i disagree

[@vaska00762]

MTB tends to have a bit of a gym bro culture in it, which can be off putting, I feel, especially for women or queer riders.

[@silichamps7704]

I disagree with this statement, am on a junior team which has about 30 members, at least 10 being women, and they love riding equally as much as us men do. @@vaska00762

[@veganpotterthevegan]

It's a lot harder to chat with multiple people at once on singletrack

[@cjohnson3836]

@@veganpotterthevegan I find this a positive

[@shrkys4]

cycling spandex ftw! around here it's always cool in the evenings when I ride, I like short sleeve baselayer/compression shirts

[@geetee4037]

Questioning chamois cream?!? What the actual?

[@848evo4]

old speedplay great, wahoo speedplay crap

[@alex-murphy]

What’s changed? I’ve got the old ones and was considering getting new ones.

[@848evo4]

@@alex-murphy my old ones have a round wire that easily engages the pedal, the wahoo ones have a flat wire that I found much harder to make clean easy pedal engagement with. I have since switched to Spd sl and like it much better after 20 years on speedplay

[@veganpotterthevegan]

​@@848evo4that same cleat has been around for a very long time. The real difference is that they're not rebuildable and you don't get color options

[@johnclement4781]

650b utter marketing nonsense....

[@whynotride327]

You can get 650B tires and tubes easily?? Not anywhere close to where I am and that is in the midwest US.

[@whynotride327]

@@justinofboulder The point is that they are NOT easily available.

[@nicolaspade1341]

Road biking is overrated (says the mountain biker 😇)

[@lenolenoleno]

Mountain biking is overrated? One of the stupidest takes. I've said this in a previous video. Francis is often the voice of a normal reasonable person and Jimmy is just being deliberately obtuse, having little to no idea about cycling outside road cycling. Should just refrain from having such strong opinions outside his lane, clickbait be damned. Yeah sure it takes more effort to ride MTB (for most people) than road cycling from your front door. So does a lot of gravel riding. So does a lot of road riding. By that metric commuting cycling is objectively the "best". You've got a hell of a lot of videos showing you travelling to ride different terrain. Just because you ride MTB doesn't mean you exclusively ride MTB and that's it. It also provides a totally different feeling/high than road cycling (which is all performance focused, not a hell of a lot of skill, fitness based) vs. MTB where you can really get into a flow state aka Type A fun. If MTB isn't accessible due to location/topography and your primary driver for cycling is "convenience" then don't do it. Ice climbing isn't accessible for almost everyone in Australia but I wouldn't then be pressed to say it's "oVeRRaTeD" because there aren't walls of ice where I live.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

They're both clowns

[@matthewlewis2072]

Oh please. Let's all spend hours setting up our forks, then drive to find somewhere to ride.

[@lenolenoleno]

@matthewlewis2072 if you find setting up sag and rebound a difficult task, something my 8yr old son has done on his own, then sure MTB isn't for you. But being a diachonomous luddite because you find bumpy surfaces and dirt scary. "Oh please"...

[@bocksteinbikes]

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