I bought a 2023 Citroen ec4 recently with 6k miles for £14k (new they are over £30k) and super happy with it. Very comfortable car with a 7 year 100k battery warranty and I love it. Such a bargain if you can look past the propaganda
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
👍 great price
@richarddixon635415 күн бұрын
Great video and some really interesting prices. Your comment ‘At twelve and a half grand I am a very forgiving man’ did make me laugh. We all know your limit now!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru15 күн бұрын
😂😂👍👍
@harrisonajones19 күн бұрын
I am loving these videos. Really helpful to hear what someone in the know thinks about some of these EVs. Ive had some real beauts of cars in the past that were new/near new, but since I got rid for an old Citron c3 musher outright and no monthly payments, my next move is due to be around the 10-12k mark. So these are really insightful. Even though I don't do many long journeys, having 150m+ range would be a real help, meaning I can literally just charge at home. For a single car household, is that an issue with the battery if its not used to that extent over long periods? Or provided I am sensible, doing only smaller trips and a larger one once or twice a month would be fine? From a battery health perspective. Cheers for the help!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru19 күн бұрын
No, different battery chemistry needs to be handled differently but it’s no issue (lots of batteries like to be always kept between 20-80% whilst others (look up LFP batteries) can be charged regularly to 100% without issue. It’s important to keep charge in the battery however, I hardly ever let mine go below 20% and if I do on a longer run I get it back over 20% as quickly as possible.
@humphreychiu176725 күн бұрын
Good point on the NCAP rating early on in the video. Your Mii and my eUp gets only 3* because it was based on a car in the early 2000s without many of the (costly) camera based assistance systems. Last decade's 5* is not the same as today's 5*. Euro NCAP should separate ratings for those advanced assist systems.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
For me personally I find it less and less relevant as the years go by. I want to know about crash test performance primarily.
@crm114.26 күн бұрын
Great selection. I’m glad you made the point about the battery. People need to accept that, unless you’re very unlucky, an EV battery is good for at least 200,000 miles. And, if you are unlucky you’ve got that great warranty which also covers the drive chain.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Plenty of cars on sale with 250k+ on the clock out there
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Different chemistry types, lots of anecdotal nonesense on all sides but at the end of the day it’s different strokes for different folks at times. I’d rather have to refuel very slightly more often in a 10 year old car than replace cambelt, gearbox, clutch, head gaskets, sensors, exhausts, oil……..
@crm114.26 күн бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuruAbsolutely. In my 4 years of EV owenership, I’ve spent £195 in servicing costs and that includes wiper blades.
@mikegregory835326 күн бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuruHow many 10 year old cars need new gearboxes and clutches? Not all cars have cam belts. Ridiculous generalisations!
@mikegregory835326 күн бұрын
@@shreeshsaurya4203 And if you buy an 8-10 year old ICE car it’s still going to have the same range as the day it was built. And even if the engine or gearbox was shot, most ‘normal’ ICE cars can be kept going with even a £1000 replacement engine or gearbox. What are you going to do with a 10 year old EV that needs a replacement battery?
@Yorkie-UK26 күн бұрын
This is good stuff. When my P*2 is up, the 2nd hand car market is going to be worth looking at if the prices stay as they are! On the battery pretty much all cars come with an 8 year warranty as standard, this would probably only be voided if the car had a CAT write off status. There are a number of cheaper 3rd party battery warranty products available. For any normal use car the battery shouldn't give anyone any worries.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍
@bst162326 күн бұрын
Problem with the Enyaq is that most things were an option, so it's really hard to know what you're getting. At least with the ID4 (which isn't as good-looking IMO) you know the spec.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Good call 👍
@PeteMulv26 күн бұрын
For about £20 you can get hold of an OBD2 dongle and with aapp you can get your own SoH check when you veiw the car and by all accounts they are not far off a mechanica diagnostic tool, nice round up of cars. You have got me thinking about swapping my E208 GT for a little bit more range, probably a Kona, because at my age I'm not a boy racer anymore.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@trevorcrook256526 күн бұрын
Great video Jim! Another good buy is the 38kWh Hyundai Ionic. My son just got a top spec 2021 model for just over £12k. In this mild weather it actually betters its WLTP range of 195 miles, he's getting over 200 with mostly motorway driving, not seen less than 5 miles/kWh yet. Still got 2 more years of warranty too (5 more on the battery).
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍
@davidy700426 күн бұрын
I think the Niro was a fair bit bigger than the Kona in the first generation models? Certainly in boot space and perhaps also passenger space? Which may explain the price difference? The latest versions of both are more comparable in size as I understand it (Kona has grown a fair bit).
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👌
@Gopher3126 күн бұрын
I remember when Euro NCAP was about telling you how safe a car is. Now it tells you how annoying a car is!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
😂👍
@linedancer11125 күн бұрын
Wow that’s a bit of an eye opener!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
👍
@glengosling563626 күн бұрын
Another great show. I wish I’d waited to get a second hand EV , some great buys .
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I still think lease new / buy used is a good way to go and I’d still be leasing if I could (for one of the cars at least).
@MurshedIslam26 күн бұрын
Another useful video Jim, however can i suggest you also quote the torque figures as well please. I love how nippy mine is - see a gap, put your foot down and you're in like Flynn 😉
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍
@front242726 күн бұрын
mmmmm matron
@DavidBoreham-kk9dx26 күн бұрын
Congrats on the 48k subs you're getting there 🎉🎉🎉
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
Thank you!!
@OldCarsNewVan26 күн бұрын
Really interesting. I don't believe EVs are the environmental magic wand but I'm excited to get one because they are now fantastic value for money - 20/21 plate ID3 for about £12k - for my modern car that's bonkers value!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Me either although the effect on air pollution must be decent. Environmental reasons were not why I got the car and I’m sure there are plenty like me, a happy bi-product though. There is some amazing value around.
@mikebrueton671626 күн бұрын
I recently sold my Kia souls first edition 20 plate 35,500 miles £13k. It was a brilliant car.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍
@DjiKandyuk26 күн бұрын
Jim you forgot the ZS EV I got a 2020 exclusive with 31k miles for £10k, my dream of owning a car that new and also and EV became a reality and so far so good the car is a joy to drive
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
I didn’t forget, I just didn’t include - there’s a difference 👍
@Nabeel623525 күн бұрын
Hi Jim, The iD 7 Touer is on an amazing flash deal atm through Lease Loco, perhaps you can make a video on it?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
I’m on holiday mate but really appreciate the heads up - I’ve done a quick post instead thanks to you👍
@Travel_Day_Dreams26 күн бұрын
For that mid-life crisis moment it's worth considering that you can put yourself into a '22 plate Audi RS e-tron GT for about half the price of a similar age R8, that's what I call a bargain and you can tell the missus about all the money you "saved". 🤣
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
😂👍
@rascal195626 күн бұрын
Some great bargains in this video, not for everyone, but well worth considering.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍
@isackville26 күн бұрын
Some fantastic bargains there jim
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Yes mate 👍
@user-gb2bl4mg6e26 күн бұрын
Great vid as I’m considering the switch sometime next year. Would be great if you haven’t already done a video on getting an EV charger installed at home. Best chargers etc, general process.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
I have done one but have an update coming very soon
@gonzaloleviatanh26 күн бұрын
Waiting for the Tesla M3 2021 to be a bit cheaper. Also like the EV6
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Both great choices
@Pete.Ty126 күн бұрын
👍👍👍. Thank you Jim
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@DavidBoreham-kk9dx26 күн бұрын
Nice group of used EVs Jim definitely the best way to buy an ev do I get an extra medal for 2 comments?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Gold Star ⭐️
@DavidBoreham-kk9dx26 күн бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru my first 1 ever 🤣🤣🤣
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
👏👏👏
@Gopher3126 күн бұрын
I wonder when the government will put pressure on councils to find solutions for the 40% of people who cannot charge these things at home! Private companies have solutions but councils don’t want to help in most cases!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Needs to be handled at national level, not by the local paper pushers - it’s a disgrace how much investment is sitting there not being used due to planning issues
@pccorner10126 күн бұрын
During covid EV’s were selling over RRP, oh how times have changed.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Great eh!
@GrahamNewman-mq7gr22 күн бұрын
Regardless how you "Dress these EVs up". The problems are still there...Range/ Charging / Depreciation/ Insuring costs . With petrol, diesel vehicles you can always find replacment engines usable parts for older vehicles. These electric lemons are scrap when the battery goes .You are only buying what life is left .ALL BATTERIES DECAY FROM USE . RAPID CHARGERS DISTROY BATTERIES. COLD WEATHER REDUCES CAPASITY DRAMATICALY.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru22 күн бұрын
Don’t get one if that’s what you think. Nobody will mind what you drive.
@adrianwood256617 күн бұрын
House. Got the full Bingo card on EV myths! 😂
@jasperphillipsjp24 күн бұрын
Hi Jim I hope you are good can your share the link for autotrader toolbar with the enhanced info please as mine has been deleted thanks Jasper
@colhum126 күн бұрын
👍 Cheers Jim
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Thank you
@osm643523 күн бұрын
Been watching Fully Charged Show Jim? ;-)
@DefinitelyNotAGuru23 күн бұрын
Nope, why?
@osm643523 күн бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Meant Fully Charged Show. Very similar selection.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru23 күн бұрын
Ah ok. I guess they would be, the bargains are the same for everyone eh. I don’t k ow when there’s came out but I filmed this 10 days / 2 weeks ago.
@chelseaboyuk7526 күн бұрын
Defo a deal Tesla pal ….lol Mr McMaster ain’t stupid
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍
@Popeye14721 күн бұрын
That bloke who complains about his Taycan does my swede in. I did follow him for a while but it was the same rubbish every time he spoke-unsubscribe
@DefinitelyNotAGuru21 күн бұрын
He’s doing pretty well from it by the looks of it
@trader54826 күн бұрын
What do you think of the Jaguar i-Pace EV400 for about £18K? 4.5 to 62 MPH with 280 mile range?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
I like them but a couple did try to kill their owners recently.
@garybrown818326 күн бұрын
@@trader548 if you can stretch to a 2020 onwards with the reconfigured battery control system then it removes some of the risks. Also if you go for HSE then it is unmatched in regards to toys, comfort, quality and speed for a used ev bargain. I have a 2020 HSE and I love it. I also paid 1/3 of the new retail price. We must be close to the floor price before a slight rebound
@ChrisPeacock-rz6kq26 күн бұрын
@@garybrown8183 currently looking at 2019 HSE with 32k for under 20k. Should I not go for it and look for 2020.
@DavidBoreham-kk9dx26 күн бұрын
YES YES 🎉I'm 23rd again do I get another medal? 🎖🏅🥉
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
If I had a red pen I’d write “must try harder” Dave 😂👍
@DavidBoreham-kk9dx26 күн бұрын
@DefinitelyNotAGuru my always used to say that I was very trying!🤣🤣🤣
@leegorman832225 күн бұрын
Allow me to put it another way, can you see a flawless EV transition? Thanks 🤥
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
I simply don’t care to be honest and I don’t understand all the tribalism on both sides - it’s utterly boring. The government needs to do a lot more for those without easy access to home charging (that want it) and I don’t think the government should dictate what anyone drives but remember there’s no ban on driving existing petrol and diesel cars, you just won’t be able to buy new ones in 11 years time. ELEVEN YEARS! There’s just no place for the nonsense on this channel - there are plenty of others doing that. If you don’t want one, don’t get one Lee but please don’t burn any calories worrying about the rest mate. Life is short 👍🙏
@leegorman832225 күн бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Future might be ethanol, Jim, if we can make enough 🤗
@DefinitelyNotAGuru25 күн бұрын
@@leegorman8322 maybe, who knows eh 👍
@adriancunningham293826 күн бұрын
👏
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍
@mustafaassad291626 күн бұрын
👍
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
👍👍
@nickyboy.26 күн бұрын
9th
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Out of the medals but a solid showing from the veteran
@gregconnor877726 күн бұрын
EV's are a depreciation disaster. These prices wont do it for alot of people. Private individuals do not buy new ones or buy uses ones. It gets tiring hearing of EV's. Your content about what you can get for your money is good on this and lease deals. However, this is not the future. Trust me, car makers will make the change. Already seeing that with Aston and Mercedes. Watch this space.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Disaster? A right result for a used buyer. Q1 3024 used EV sales were up by more than two thirds (71.0%) to 41,505, so not none. Don’t get one if you don’t want one, nobody will care Greg. Be happy mate, you can drive what you want👍
@johnw65uk26 күн бұрын
I’m a private individual I bought an ex lease id3 that was £34k new for £14k with 25k miles. Its price according to motorway has flatlined the last 3 months, the lease company took the depreciation hit. Not me. Sorry but you’re talking nonsense.
@ssdma0226 күн бұрын
😂
@gregconnor877726 күн бұрын
@@johnw65uk OK, let me know what you get when you trade it in, then we will see who is making sense
@adrianwood256617 күн бұрын
Most private buyers purchase 2nd hand. Fleet and lease companies have been sustaining the 2nd hand market as long as they have been around. Private buyers are buying as lease or via salary sacrifice skewing the numbers. This is exactly what the market needs cheap 3yr old EVs. You only lose on depreciation if you are paying cash. Treat it transactional. It costs x per month ands that is what I can afford. You are commenting on a video that shows how cheap they are!
@worldofcars_ldn26 күн бұрын
Thanks Jim, always treat your kite, like you treat your woman…..
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
You mean take her home on weekends to meet your mother?
@worldofcars_ldn26 күн бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I think we both know where this is going!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
That’s what she said
@tadhgcronin17526 күн бұрын
Even if I won an EV in a raffle I wouldn't keep it let alone buy one.
@grantrandall167426 күн бұрын
That just goes to show how little truth you actually know, understand or appreciate about them. Try driving A decent one (there are some duds) and learning. (There is a lot to learn. I've been making the effort for a year to understand everything before I bight the bullet. I'm getting one this winter as my 9yr old Peugeot enters is 10th yr. I'm going for 800v EV6 for it's fast charging and towing ability.
@OM617a26 күн бұрын
Same here, i see far too many broken down at the roadside and on recovery trucks. This is not acceptable for cars that are 1-3 years old. I have been driving a 40 year old car for years without issue. Add smart motorways and it is very unsafe.
@Superman-nn4nw26 күн бұрын
@@OM617aSure you do.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting us know. I might take it off your hands cheap if you ever do so keep playing eh. I’ve heard rubbing a rabbit’s foot on your little gentleman can improve your chances 🤞
@DefinitelyNotAGuru26 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, I’m sure 😂 I never do a motorway trip without seeing a broken down EV 😂😂😂