Lizzo Sued For Not Being BODYPOSITIVE | The Lizzo Lawsuit

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Michelle McDaniel

Michelle McDaniel

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@Michellemcd543
@Michellemcd543 Жыл бұрын
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@Pugetwitch
@Pugetwitch Жыл бұрын
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@phoenixredd721
@phoenixredd721 Жыл бұрын
We love the work and effort you (and the doggie babies😉🤣🤍) put into the videos for us ❤ if it wasn’t for you I wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on in the world half the time lmao so the time comes again where I wait for the next video 😭💕
@ominai1877
@ominai1877 Жыл бұрын
Michelle that mic aint even plugged up LOL
@willowshaffer7410
@willowshaffer7410 Жыл бұрын
Such a great video, always love your content :)
@BlackroseXX9
@BlackroseXX9 Жыл бұрын
I had to read the title a couple of times..........................................what?????? 😂😂😂
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios Жыл бұрын
The fact that people are more shocked about the FAKE BODY POSITIVE part than the SXUAL ALLEGATIONS is truly what's mindboggling about this.
@CaptainMorganne1227
@CaptainMorganne1227 Жыл бұрын
Well it's cause it's her brand (body positivity) and ig cause she's a woman
@Morbid_Freyja27
@Morbid_Freyja27 Жыл бұрын
Right!
@SpookiDoki
@SpookiDoki Жыл бұрын
Well, there is a difference between one being worse and one being more shocking, so that would explain it
@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel Жыл бұрын
I mean her visuals match? and honestly at this point, its all this industry. horrible things going on there
@heliotikis
@heliotikis Жыл бұрын
People love irony, and this is very ironic
@eileen8787
@eileen8787 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that if she “fat shamed” her dancers like, yeah it’s hypocritical but the biggest thing that can’t be ignored is literal sexual harassment. What if the boss was a man, making his employees do that?!! It would be taken seriously as it should be! I think this is where the focus should be, whatever about her hypocrisy - she is being accused of something MUCH more serious
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 Жыл бұрын
If a male boss took female employees into a notorious red light district, nobody would give him the benefit of doubt that he wasn't aware what kind of businesses you find there and that he just wanted to buy his employees some drinks and things went out of hand. When men go into the red light district they do so because they want some kind of sexual excitement -- why would women be seeking innocent fun there?
@krisdiane
@krisdiane Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even call it harassment - it's sexual ASSAULT. She was forced into physical, sexual contact with another person. She needs to be pressing charges for that.
@melanielake99
@melanielake99 Жыл бұрын
And she said as her response you can’t blame her for being “open with her sexuality and expressing myself” but forcing employees you hired to go to nude performances and be interactive isn’t expressing yourself. It’s not limited to yourself anymore! It’s not the same as her going alone or with a willing friend.
@eileen8787
@eileen8787 Жыл бұрын
@@melanielake99 exactly! I thought the same thing. You can’t use your “sexuality” as an excuse to sexually abuse others
@hattarapilvi
@hattarapilvi Жыл бұрын
yeah and if the things theyre saying are true its not just harrassment its sexual ASSAULT
@DeadLkeMe
@DeadLkeMe Жыл бұрын
Who cares if Lizzo is "fat phobic" or "bodyshaming"? What about the S3XL harassmnt allegations??! That is very serious and speaks to a deeper issue of a deeply insecure person abusing her power against people who rely on her for a paycheck
@sof7068
@sof7068 Жыл бұрын
I know those are "worse", but ig the others came more as a shock to people because it directly contradicts everything Lizzo publicly stands for
@TombNGloom
@TombNGloom Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking 💀 like let's not-
@Crocady1
@Crocady1 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting how many of these influencers that are controversial all seem to be doing something behind the scenes that is point blank just not OK. "Power changes people."
@anthea6669
@anthea6669 Жыл бұрын
Aren't the sexual harassment allegations the things that happened in Amsterdam?
@protoman1214
@protoman1214 Жыл бұрын
People can care about both. No need to minimize one. Also, irony/hypocrisy is always a lightning rod for commentary and criticism. How could you expect people to ignore that?
@chevgage6210
@chevgage6210 Жыл бұрын
My worst bully was one of these people. Toxic insecurity is dangerous because they feel entitled to be horrible to others since they see themselves as victims in a sense that justifies their behavior. It's awful.
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 Жыл бұрын
You summed it up perfectly. My worst bullies were people who stood up to the “popular girls” so they had a little cult of people who felt indebted to them, even when they started acting like the people they criticized. The worst part about those bullies is that no one else believed me when I told them about their shitty behavior. It is truly an isolating feeling. 😢 so I’m glad these dancers are speaking out.
@Iloveelliptsmith
@Iloveelliptsmith Жыл бұрын
Lets just pray lizzo doesn’t pick up a ukulele
@kimicappiello5480
@kimicappiello5480 Жыл бұрын
I'm probably going to hell for how hard that just made me laugh...
@Mundane_InTheMembrane
@Mundane_InTheMembrane Жыл бұрын
Or a flute 😭
@JayMich29
@JayMich29 Жыл бұрын
OOOP! 😂
@paperglu6640
@paperglu6640 Жыл бұрын
Nah she'll pick up her flute
@NathanDuabanTheSonicEnthusiast
@NathanDuabanTheSonicEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
If she does, I'm gonna laugh like a crazy person 😭
@inferiorinferno8859
@inferiorinferno8859 Жыл бұрын
As a Dutch person, the moment I came across a news article about this with the Bananenbar in the title, I had a feeling what might have happened and when reading through the sexual allegations, some of my immediate thoughts turnt out to be correct. This is why sane people don't set a foot in the Bananenbar, its high sexual nature is not for most people and it's easy for people to cross people's boundaries with things like peer pressure in a setting like this. Shame on Lizzo for doing this. Bananen is pronounced as bah-nah-nun .
@aeoligarlic4024
@aeoligarlic4024 Жыл бұрын
Does it always involve a banana?
@Bianca_Toeps
@Bianca_Toeps Жыл бұрын
@@aeoligarlic4024The name literally means bananas bar. It's their core business.
@inferiorinferno8859
@inferiorinferno8859 Жыл бұрын
@@Bianca_Toeps Exactly. I wonder if the dancers were actually informed about the nature of the bananenbar, or if like the Paris situation, they didn't knew what they were getting themselves into.
@bella-zk6sy
@bella-zk6sy Жыл бұрын
@@inferiorinferno8859 could be, though even if they knew, most if not all, force themselves to participate to stay on employer's good graces. you could be ostracized for not going... and not doing what you're told once there. lizzo is awful to use her position like this for shts and giggles.
@mahumia
@mahumia Жыл бұрын
Yeah same (Dutch too). When I read that they went to the bananenbar I was like 'ooh, poor things'. Peer pressuring people into things they do not want to do seems to be a staple at that bar.
@tj_6964
@tj_6964 Жыл бұрын
The fact that all of Lizzo’s allegations involved food 💀
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks Жыл бұрын
Oohhhh yes, even in the Amsterdam club. 🤢
@Fl0rales
@Fl0rales Жыл бұрын
Lizzo be eating fr
@eleisatrujillo3398
@eleisatrujillo3398 Жыл бұрын
😂 HILARIOUS 🤣
@taiyabazaheer9492
@taiyabazaheer9492 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@taiyabazaheer9492
@taiyabazaheer9492 Жыл бұрын
​@@Fl0ralesLmao
@carmendavila272
@carmendavila272 Жыл бұрын
I just quit a (good-paying) job after three weeks because it was the most hostile environment I have ever worked at in my life. I couldn’t take the anxiety, shame and stress of an environment of gossip, hateful coworkers, and overbearing management. Now we are scrambling just to try to pay for food, but I just couldn’t take it anymore. I start a different job in about a week, hopefully it will go better.
@bananafriel
@bananafriel Жыл бұрын
Good for you for having enough self respect to leave. You will make it ❤
@mikemodica2656
@mikemodica2656 Жыл бұрын
How old are you and what's "good paying" ?
@spacemountainvanity
@spacemountainvanity Жыл бұрын
I hope it’s better too, that took a lot of courage❤
@invisibleman4827
@invisibleman4827 Жыл бұрын
I get you. I had the same problem - bullying nasty POS boss & coworkers can be devastating. My boss and I work with young people and when we were talking about the hazards of porn consumption by young people (like kids accessing seriously nasty abusive shit) he asked me what my porn habits were after he and his mate telling me they were into gay porn and midget porn. 😒
@RS-tc2ct
@RS-tc2ct Жыл бұрын
Ayo same here homie! After a few months I'll say it's better to not have money for a bit than work in a place like that, no matter the pay
@rita8274
@rita8274 Жыл бұрын
The seggsual assault and harassment feels like it's taken a huge backseat in the media. It's what I have the biggest issue with. It's sad and sick but not surprising she's a body shamer, the one who screams the loudest is typically the reason people are screaming silently. Sadly.
@catrinacrystallina
@catrinacrystallina Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the racial discrimination allegations where her dancers are saying they were held to higher standard and called lazy when YT dancers weren’t.
@christal9440
@christal9440 Жыл бұрын
​@@catrinacrystallinathat's crazy!! I didn't even hear about about that
@catrinacrystallina
@catrinacrystallina Жыл бұрын
@@christal9440 it’s been mentioned in passing by some YTers and Podcasters. Which is kind of weird. I get the more scandalous stuff is going to drive more engagement but also can’t help but wonder if the body shaming is being put to the forefront since it’s maybe the weakest and least horrible allegation amongst the others.
@rita8274
@rita8274 Жыл бұрын
@@catrinacrystallina That's another messed up situation added on top of it. TBH I think the body shaming is forefront because that's been the main thing people attacked her for and she was known for standing against. She was also big about black empowerment, but it was criticized less than her weight. People focusing on it are trying to basically justify their anti-fat rhetoric. Regardless, the messed up and racial prejudice should be something mentioned as well.
@Lillireify
@Lillireify Жыл бұрын
Those allegations and body shaming is the most popular with the media, she was also accused of far worse - assault and keeping someone against their will.
@CourtneysCockpit
@CourtneysCockpit Жыл бұрын
As a fat person myself I appreciate your content. There is nothing positive about being big. It hurts and is exhausting. I've tried every revenue and it doesn't work. I need a hormone specialist to assist at this point. My body is breaking down and I get so tired of body positivity because it's just a bunch of people lying to themselves. Kudos. Ur body is bangin'!
@brendalauts8473
@brendalauts8473 Жыл бұрын
I hope you get the hormone specialist that you need.
@cataclysmic_catnip
@cataclysmic_catnip Жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised this happened, I’m surprised that it was LIZZO who did it. 💀 so much for body positivity.
@chanyisme
@chanyisme Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised it was Lizzo.
@tiffanykim2773
@tiffanykim2773 Жыл бұрын
Why are you shocked?
@tiffanykim2773
@tiffanykim2773 Жыл бұрын
​@@chanyismeyup
@ottz2506
@ottz2506 Жыл бұрын
is it really that surprising? In my experience within the positivity world, people like Lizzo (if these accusations are true) have been the meanest cutthroat people there and hate their bodies as much (if not more) as they claim other people do.
@aerog9860
@aerog9860 Жыл бұрын
Body positivity for me but not for thee.
@FreelysLifeLessons
@FreelysLifeLessons Жыл бұрын
How the heck did I go all this time without finding your channel??? Oh girl… you have a new bestie here. I’ve lost over 300 pounds and was never… a body positivity person. I am here for this!!!! Subscribed and now going to binge watch you this weekend!!!
@DBZAOTA482
@DBZAOTA482 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to scream body positivity when it benefits you
@bcpr9812
@bcpr9812 Жыл бұрын
The religious discrimination and proselytizing add another layer of hypocrisy, on top of the gross sexual harassment and body shaming.
@gloreeuhh-
@gloreeuhh- Жыл бұрын
The thing about that lady shaming a woman for being a virgin has gotten blame on Christians- more specifically Christ- even though it’s a sin to fornicate.
@brittanyd1013
@brittanyd1013 Жыл бұрын
This lawsuit honestly doesn't surprise me. Not in that it's against Lizzo, but I feel like any overly positive, "look-at-me" public-facing influencer is really a pos and/or just utterly miserable behind closed doors.
@carolynw8614
@carolynw8614 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@victoriadiesattheend.8478
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 Жыл бұрын
same
@imitationporcelain
@imitationporcelain Жыл бұрын
She can' back peddle tough, because she profit from body posi it is her brand (which I hope people who think like that are genetically blessed) I just been overweight have high colesterol and diabetes and hbp will catch me too if I dont loose weight assap, I can't imagine how people like lizzo feel daily to think "oh this is fine,been obese is healthy"
@anitadarling4592
@anitadarling4592 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m tired of being dissapointed even though I know the industry messed them up, so I just don’t like them if I don’t know them anymore. But I can still only appreciate it if they produce something good, but not look up to them anymore. Any human that is put on a pedestal, with the same limits as any other human is destined to fall the hardest from all those impossible expectations placed.
@missbumblebee8633
@missbumblebee8633 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I am about Lizzo's size and ain't NOTHING positive about that. People of our size have serious issues and the cure sure as hell isn't to tell lies about it. Lizzo is gaslighting the public. If she were truly brave, she'd come out and admit what a daily struggle it is living with that kind of weight. I'm surprised that people are surprised that Lizzo may not be the person she wants us to believe she is. I think it's obvious from miles away that the whole (body) positivity thing is a shtick. I've always found her to be quite obnoxious.
@imamajesticseahorse2548
@imamajesticseahorse2548 Жыл бұрын
I feel like anytime someone is accused of being overbearing and abusive as an employer, and they deny it saying, "I have high standards", they`re usually overbearing and abusive.
@tarotreadingsbysteven8545
@tarotreadingsbysteven8545 Жыл бұрын
I've found what most people mean when they say they are for body positivity is that they want positivity for THEIR body but reserve the right to tear others down for themselves and let's not forget how many fat influencers refuse to date other fat people. Hypocrisy at it's finest with this crowd.
@anhelaanhela4996
@anhelaanhela4996 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the way they dogpile on skinny women and mentally ill teenagers suffering from restrictive EDs. This group is pure evil.
@fh5047
@fh5047 Жыл бұрын
Yea, I do find that fat people think they can say what they want to thin people, like it’s not offensive the other way round.
@prg4647
@prg4647 Жыл бұрын
Plus the fact that they live to shame Skinny people
@ladyofthecentury
@ladyofthecentury Жыл бұрын
Body positivity is synonymous to obesity. That is all it is. Obese women people who are demanding that you praise them and shed unearned praise and lying to them and pretending that you desire them and like their looks. Women telling other obese women that they are desirable. It is very homoerotic. Why was Lizzo taking women to gay outings to view other women in sexual acts with her gay dance manager. But she won't talk about that.
@chelelee6321
@chelelee6321 Жыл бұрын
I have a story kind of pertaining to your comment. I had a very sizable friend who was 380lbs. I then met a guy called "Slim". He was nearing 450lbs. They were both single and wanting to meet someone. So, I set them up on a blind date along with myself and a date. Well, my friend and I entered the club and the absolute second she saw Slim, she screamed at me "you dumbass! Don't you know two fat people can't f***?!?". I was horrified. I hadn't even considered something like that. It was a very awkward evening, to say the least.
@user-0909
@user-0909 Жыл бұрын
I just imagine the dancers being like "Yes! Finally someone who will accept me" to then be fat shamed by her 💀💀
@robinswampangel
@robinswampangel Жыл бұрын
Lizzo saying "I was worried about you" because she confessed that she has binge eating disorder and then gained a bunch of weight isn't fat phobia.
@robinswampangel
@robinswampangel Жыл бұрын
I listened to her entire statement right from her mouth and she said Lizzo saying "Good, I'm glad you're okay, I was worried about you" is "very subtle and nuanced fat phobia"
@robinswampangel
@robinswampangel Жыл бұрын
I highly highly doubt there was any fat phobia beyond her saying "I was worried about you" and intentionally trying to be delicate and not mentioning the weight gain, but just taking what she knows and wishing her dancer well.
@cheycheyfriend247
@cheycheyfriend247 Жыл бұрын
sources?@@robinswampangel
@dukkulisa3542
@dukkulisa3542 Жыл бұрын
Wow, Lizzo didn't even outright deny or clarify anything. She just used the old, non-specific "I would never even do that!😢!".
@rilmar2137
@rilmar2137 Жыл бұрын
She pretty much used DARVO
@audreydoyle5268
@audreydoyle5268 Жыл бұрын
​@@rilmar2137 she exactly used DARVO. She's a covert narc
@ArThur_hara
@ArThur_hara Жыл бұрын
This is honestly a big problem in Hollywood and I find Lizo's actions enormously disappointing to the largest extent
@ArThur_hara
@ArThur_hara Жыл бұрын
@@era157 ???
@iburnedthegrassinmyfrontya9700
@iburnedthegrassinmyfrontya9700 Жыл бұрын
I cant tell if you did that on purpose or not LMFAO
@ArThur_hara
@ArThur_hara Жыл бұрын
@@iburnedthegrassinmyfrontya9700 😈
@darlingnine8803
@darlingnine8803 Жыл бұрын
Nice one
@StubbyLegz
@StubbyLegz Жыл бұрын
The best thing Lizzo and her team could do is to settle. They really don’t want to unleash the Pandora’s box that is the discovery process.
@pretzelicious4200
@pretzelicious4200 Жыл бұрын
what even is the lawsuit? Defamation for everything else other than the sexual harrassment or hwat
@raydragerns3657
@raydragerns3657 Жыл бұрын
That's the WORST thing they could do. They have no case. They're hoping she settles just from the societal pressure.
@StubbyLegz
@StubbyLegz Жыл бұрын
@@raydragerns3657 I have a feeling they’ll be opening a Pandora’s box if they decide to go to trial and have to go through the discovery process. If what we’re seeing and hearing now is bad, I really think discovery would uncover some really damaging stuff. It would be too risky. I follow some lawyer creators here because I’m training to be a paralegal, but I haven’t watched what they have to say yet so I’m curious about their analyses.
@StubbyLegz
@StubbyLegz Жыл бұрын
@@pretzelicious4200 you can find it online. I believe there are 9 claims in the complaint including hostile work environment, and discrimination - religious, disability, and racial. Among other things you can find in the court filing. It’s 37 pages so I imagine it will be a good hour so so to read and digest.
@laughysapphy6175
@laughysapphy6175 Жыл бұрын
@@pretzelicious4200wrongful termination as well as most likely abuse in the workplace
@theboredkid3620
@theboredkid3620 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Michelle started this off with “well well well”. I’m in tears 😂😂
@Crocady1
@Crocady1 Жыл бұрын
I've been so keen to hear your take on this situation! Seems like this whole body positivity movement is a snake biting it's own tail.
@itscarriebomb
@itscarriebomb Жыл бұрын
I've never been happier to be someone who never stuck up for Lizzo than I am right now.
@melanchlooe
@melanchlooe Жыл бұрын
mood :)
@hollyroseXOX
@hollyroseXOX Жыл бұрын
😂
@kupotenshi
@kupotenshi Жыл бұрын
Why would you be against her before this?
@biophype
@biophype Жыл бұрын
​@@kupotenshi im not the person u replied to but i just found her annoying before lol
@robertapascal6962
@robertapascal6962 Жыл бұрын
This is why we shouldn’t stand up for anyone we don’t know personally.
@MphoenixE
@MphoenixE Жыл бұрын
My mom is the type to call me big while being at least double my size. And now she makes a choking sound when I mentioned my gym gains or what I am now able to do.
@nataleeisjustchilling2737
@nataleeisjustchilling2737 Жыл бұрын
Your mom should be happy for you that you’re being healthy and working out, once I lost a lot of weight in this past year my mom was very proud, I think she’s just jealous of you or at the least very insecure of herself cause that’s disgusting behavior
@maddye117
@maddye117 Жыл бұрын
She's mad she can't do it herself
@MphoenixE
@MphoenixE Жыл бұрын
@@maddye117 I believe that. She does a lot of jealous mean girl stuff
@Trylica
@Trylica Жыл бұрын
Hugs. That's horrible 😢
@Cadacusdeity90
@Cadacusdeity90 Жыл бұрын
​@MphoenixE Parents should want the best for their children but there are some parents that get jealous of what their kids are accomplishing. You keep improving yourself and do what makes you happy. Your mom may not be applauding you but I am. You got this!
@Shnozzler
@Shnozzler Жыл бұрын
How Michelle could see through Lizzo lies for years is insane
@devdawg22
@devdawg22 Жыл бұрын
Out of all the allegations, firing dancers if they gain too much to properly preform logically makes sence for every other person but hypocritical comings from Lizzo. The rest are definitely hostile work environment and harassment
@reclusegoose4094
@reclusegoose4094 Жыл бұрын
Lizzo is always giving me vibes of narcissistic personality issues over-sexualization of things and the moral high horse she likes to stand from with people to make her feel better about herself.
@haylzLH
@haylzLH Жыл бұрын
When I first heard this story come out I immediately KNEW you were gonna make a video about it! 😂
@j524poc
@j524poc Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a video from Michelle on this because I wanted to hear her take!
@reiterated
@reiterated Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video as well.
@Rachelief
@Rachelief Жыл бұрын
Ever since these allegations came out, I’ve been WAITING for Michelle’s opinion. After all of her videos on Lizzo and the controversial comments… I just needed this take 😂
@AntaresSelket
@AntaresSelket Жыл бұрын
I watched the Big Grrrls Documentary as a fan of what Lizzo stood for, but came away feeling less than impressed. Her show reminded me of Tyra Banks modeling show where people enter a contest and have to make it through questionable tasks each week. Lizzo often showed up with a big speech on body positivity, and expressed how she wanted the dancers to feel like a family, but they were auditioning for a job, not a position as her best friend. It should have been more important that they could do the job, not just hang out with her and entertain her when she wanted them to. I don't know how these girls are going to fair in the lawsuit, but after watching the documentary Lizzo came off as the popular girl that says the right things but her actions are a complete disconnect to what she says. I wasn't surprised by the lawsuit. I can understand that dancers that she fired might sue, but a dancer that quit? Also, there are other people that were in that environment that weren't dancers who acknowledge that what the dancers are saying is true. Lizzo won't be cancelled, but this is a big ding in her career. It's best that she acts like the boss, and stops expecting group outings after rehearsals and shows. Being your boss's friend is something that happens over time not because your job depends on it.
@Vicky-du6ni
@Vicky-du6ni Жыл бұрын
You can still sue even if you quit. For the sexual harassment, hostile work environment, false imprisonment, etc. none of that requires you to be fired. You’re thinking of a wrongful termination lawsuit. But I believe there’s still circumstances where even that can be possible if you can prove that you were forced to quit, if that makes sense.
@AntaresSelket
@AntaresSelket Жыл бұрын
@@Vicky-du6ni I wasn't thinking of a wrongful termination. I was trying to say that the allegations have some validity because one of the dancers that quit is also apart of the lawsuit. She didn't quit and join the lawsuit later. She quit due to the toxic environment and because of the way the other dancers were being treated. Which is very telling. Thank you for your comment and explanation.
@sarahcollision7263
@sarahcollision7263 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how middle grounded you are, I feel like you're not biased at all you're just factual. I don't feel like I am being influenced to think anything like how Lizzo might do that to her audience and how other people on the right will do that to their audience. I feel like I am just listening to your opinion you never really say "you should/ should not think/say/do this" you just express yourself in a non-manipulative way.
@chanise2218
@chanise2218 Жыл бұрын
I am just so baffled that she is body shaming her plus size dancers. I bet she was so nasty about it too. She's such a terrible person.
@dobugswalkbackwards5392
@dobugswalkbackwards5392 Жыл бұрын
Someone commented that she might want to keep being the most overweight person on stage…
@AlKay38245
@AlKay38245 Жыл бұрын
Not surprising, body positive community doesn't want people from their own ranks in a romantic way, nothing stops them from behaving the same way professionally. Do as I say and not as I do as the saying goes
@Thealgorithm-k4x
@Thealgorithm-k4x Жыл бұрын
She didnt actually body shame anyone the rest of it tho she did 😂
@sillau9
@sillau9 Жыл бұрын
We don't even what truly happened
@robinswampangel
@robinswampangel Жыл бұрын
After watching the statement... Her claims of fat phobia are a load of crap. Apparently Lizzo saying "I was worried about you" after she said "I have binge eating disorder and it gets really bad when I'm stressed" and then gaining a bunch of weight Is "Very subtle... Very nuanced fat phobia"
@mercyfulfate666
@mercyfulfate666 Жыл бұрын
The dancers are not the only one calling her out: the oscar-nominated director that was making lizzo's documentary said she is 'a horrible person', and more. So... Yeah. There's other dancers talking about it as well.
@RedRoseSeptember22
@RedRoseSeptember22 Жыл бұрын
OMG Michelle I remember this girl in HS that was *WAY* bigger than me, and I mean *WAY* bigger than me had the audacity to make fun of me!!! She must've been close to 500lbs at the time no joke. I was thinking in my head the whole time "Do you own a mirror? And you're making fun of MY weight???" LOL some people really have nerve.
@KarlaHolland
@KarlaHolland Жыл бұрын
Major projection there
@RedRoseSeptember22
@RedRoseSeptember22 Жыл бұрын
@@KarlaHolland From her you mean?
@melodysafo5437
@melodysafo5437 Жыл бұрын
@@RedRoseSeptember22yes
@annasilvertongue
@annasilvertongue Жыл бұрын
The best part is before all this Lizzo dropped a song that basically spellled out exactly what happened; firing people, making them sign an NDA, "no loose lips," which implies something like this has happened before
@bcpr9812
@bcpr9812 Жыл бұрын
Which song was that?
@annasilvertongue
@annasilvertongue Жыл бұрын
@@bcpr9812 "Rumors"
@BridgetRavens
@BridgetRavens Жыл бұрын
I was always a somewhat chubby child and I remember in kindergarten, KINDERGARTEN, I raced a couple kids back to our table and a girl who was considerably larger than me laughed and said “hah! You lost to a skinny girl.” I’m almost 27. I have not forgotten 😂
@discardedroses
@discardedroses Жыл бұрын
That girl is a legend 💀
@melodysafo5437
@melodysafo5437 Жыл бұрын
That was ironic, coming from a big girl!
@pleinairlizfair
@pleinairlizfair Жыл бұрын
I just watched “The Whale”, the movie with Fraser in it. It hit hard as an intimate reality of death by obesity. It makes me think of how detrimental enabling behavior is for people struggling with eating disorders and other ways that it can get out of hand. It’s just… sad. That’s why I never enable any of these fat activist groups, healthy doesn’t come at every size, it just doesn’t.
@JH-kw8zy
@JH-kw8zy Жыл бұрын
I feel like another important point to make is this is also backlash from the OVERLY sex positive society we've built. Sex is not bad and shouldn't be judged but also sex is an intimate act that should be kept between the people performing it. We're just overly sexualized and overly sexualizing everything. It's like any other recent social movement we've gone too far. Too far and body positivity too far on sex positivity and other social issues. You can destigmatize something without overly glamorizing it and that's what we need to work on.
@flamevix
@flamevix Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's become way too shocking, and people are way too comfortable. If a child has easy access to seeing something, for example, that's not good.
@kecym.4808
@kecym.4808 Жыл бұрын
​@@flamevix true
@MadMax-dp2bb
@MadMax-dp2bb Жыл бұрын
​@flamevix i mean, it's not other peoples responsibility to raise your child for you. The parent is the one who needs to pay attention to what their children are watching and act accordingly.
@MadMax-dp2bb
@MadMax-dp2bb Жыл бұрын
Can you give an example of how we are over sexualized? I'm not sure i agree. There is more sexual content out there if someone wants it, but it's by no means being forced on anyone. You can still change the channel. It's just another option
@tj_6964
@tj_6964 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. It happens here in the gay community…I’m so tired of the amount of sex that gets praised here (but knowing men’s libidos I can’t say I blame them). I gotta say tho I’ve never been happier since I settled down with my man. We’re getting engaged this year ❤️
@slconley
@slconley Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, I’ve only been body shamed by overweight people.
@hazelynrankin9574
@hazelynrankin9574 Жыл бұрын
Not Lizzo commenting on someone else's weight smh I've noticed growing up that it's usually people fatter than me that have the nerve to call me and/or other people fat. That's why I can't stand the body positive/fat activists, they're the first to call out everyone else's flaws but their own
@paulanderson2963
@paulanderson2963 Жыл бұрын
I am not even one second into this video and I already know that you are going to be my favorite presenter on KZbin to discuss this particular topic. Let's go!
@stankyfx6001
@stankyfx6001 Жыл бұрын
The not so positive body positivity movement...who could guess
@LnzMQ
@LnzMQ Жыл бұрын
Work/life boundaries need to be a thing in showbusiness. Also, it freaks me out because I have the same last name as the dance coach.
@catrinacrystallina
@catrinacrystallina Жыл бұрын
The least is the body shaming! These allegations are horrible!
@sarahloveless1726
@sarahloveless1726 Жыл бұрын
Let's be real: this shouldn't be a surprise. EVERYONE in this movement is either deluded, a scammer, or a predator; and even worse, it's not a single choice thing. BTW I'm kinda still waiting to hear about Virgi Tovar being a predator. I dunno why but when Michelle covered her I got that impression that she was like that pearadise guy.
@CAI.DREAMS
@CAI.DREAMS Жыл бұрын
I told my sister about the lawsuit and in her own words: “I stand with Lizzo. I think people who believe she did those things are being fatphobic and anti-black” 😕
@Deanna0456
@Deanna0456 Жыл бұрын
The girls that are accusing her are black though. I know that must be so frustrating coming from your sister 😐
@KarlaHolland
@KarlaHolland Жыл бұрын
Don't be shocked if the allegations are proven true beyond doubt, and she resorts to claiming a conspiracy against Lizzo..
@netteloveszebras
@netteloveszebras Жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve been waiting for. I’m so certain a big part of the internet is gonna come out saying the exact same thing.
@ss012978
@ss012978 Жыл бұрын
Insane
@_Eisley
@_Eisley Жыл бұрын
Yikes... Your sister really needs to get lizzo off that pedestal
@Thealgorithm-k4x
@Thealgorithm-k4x Жыл бұрын
Girl you should have deep dived into the court documents! The story is in order makes sense and leaves nothing out. Its wild😬
@ConcernedCoffee
@ConcernedCoffee Жыл бұрын
Michelle I am so glad you covered this story
@Cat_Woods
@Cat_Woods Жыл бұрын
When it comes to this lawsuit, I just think the level of the alleged SA is so great compared to the fat shaming that I really wish the discussion would focus on the abuse instead of that. I don't know if it happened or not, obviously, but if it did, that is criminally abusive, not just mean and hypocritical. Almost all the outrage I see is about the hypocrisy of the fat shaming. I mean, WHAT ABOUT THE S*XUAL AB*SE??? Really pisses me off. Michelle saying, "I mean, I knew celebrities were weird, but..." cracked me up. It was a bit of a palate cleanser for this whole topic.
@whosaidthat4299
@whosaidthat4299 Жыл бұрын
My obese sister who was 13 years older would comment on my weight when I was a teenager, when I look at old pictures I was on the thin side of normal, I couldn't and still cannot wrap my mind around that, but it doesn't matter now as I don't care about her toxic opinions.
@Robertiena
@Robertiena Жыл бұрын
Did you just call your 13yr old sister toxic? She was 13!!!!! A freaking child!!! So it's your parents fault she was allowed to get obese. And clearly she was insecure and would take her frustration out on you, which I know is bad and hurtful, but come on, she was not at a point where she would know better. Do you have any empathy and understanding at all? This comment makes me think you are far more toxic than your sister ever was and you just play the victim
@brutalictesku
@brutalictesku Жыл бұрын
Your sister was projecting her own insecurities on you. I'm glad you're good now. 😊
@kellmac
@kellmac Жыл бұрын
@whosaidthat4299 - Same here! She'd call me every name in the book. A couple years ago, she actually posted on FB that I fat-shamed her all her life. Never happened. Even when she called me names, I never retaliated. I just cried.
@jenniferbond7073
@jenniferbond7073 Жыл бұрын
She was jealous and projecting.
@DannyJsPlaceII
@DannyJsPlaceII Жыл бұрын
self hate
@mariaxeldridge
@mariaxeldridge Жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEEEE !! so excited to hear u cover this story 😭😭
@j3551kuh
@j3551kuh Жыл бұрын
When this news broke I immediately thought of you 😂. You NEVER miss. You’ve been saying that you feel like Lizzo doesn’t believe the body positivity bs that she promotes and that she isn’t as confident in her body as she portrays 😅
@Cuddlingus
@Cuddlingus Жыл бұрын
9:20 she threw the whole case out the window of "lizzo called me fat" but the thing is in most states you can still sue over "feelings"
@MusiciansRule07
@MusiciansRule07 Жыл бұрын
And this is why I run away screaming from the Body Positivity Movement and people in it. I wasn't too shocked to hear about Lizzo ALLEGEDLY being trash behind the scenes because that's become standard operating procedure for celebrities/influencers but what shocked me was just how much of a sexual degenerate she really is. That would be fine if she kept things private and consensual but she didn't so it's giving James Charles and R. Kelly (without the underage people). Also, she's giving major Ellen vibes when it comes to being a terrible boss. She's giving Colleen Ballinger vibes when it comes to being a terrible boss that surrounds herself with bad people who can get away with their behavior with her blessing (Shirlene Quigley = Kory Desoto). It's just an amalgamation of terribleness. Lizzo thought she was untouchable, flew too close to the sun, and now she's getting a reality check. I really hope this isn't a false allegation situation and if it is, I'll eat crow but for now, I'll believe the victims.
@catrinacrystallina
@catrinacrystallina Жыл бұрын
The lack of consent around sex is what really bothers me. It’s also not the only time she’s crossed the line imho. She went on a live and talked about some erotic fantasy she has about Taylor Swift and she was incredibly detailed. She also did the same with Chris Evans even after she slid into his DM’s and mentioned he wasn’t interested. I just can’t imagine sharing thoughts like that and thinking it’s okay, especially about people who I know and see regularly in professional settings like award shows, fundraisers, and premieres.
@ptlovelight2971
@ptlovelight2971 Жыл бұрын
I've said this for a long time: Lizzo is....weird. And not the good kind of weird. Throughout the years, she's had a lot of questionable antics (like showing up to a basketball game with kids around and wearing a revealing outfit to "flirt " with the players) And no one called her out on it at the time bc of the BS HAES movement. She would just play the victim, saying no one would judge her if she was skinny, etc. But that doesn't excuse some of her reprehensible behavior. And she always came off as overly hypersexual for some...reason. Maybe she's a freak or whatever, but i just always found it odd behavior. Not saying the allegations of harassment are true, but if they are found to be true, ot wouldn't surprise me...
@gothicgirlfriend7375
@gothicgirlfriend7375 Жыл бұрын
People need to be able to pick their own dancers for any reason they want. I don't care if the singer wants everyone to wear chicken suits. But pushing someone to do something se×ual is weird. If a man did that it would be a slam dunk no no.
@Meansi
@Meansi Жыл бұрын
The “nonmandatory” events reminds me of a job that had “girls nights”. I was told I didn’t have to go when I explained I was uncomfortable with going. So I didn’t go. At my next check in meeting with my supervisor she went on and on about how “the girls” were concerned and hurt that I didn’t go. I caved and went to the next one. The event was fine but the week long anxiety about having to go wasn’t worth it. I was so glad when a man was finally hired in my department and the girls nights stopped.
@nehalilisays
@nehalilisays Жыл бұрын
You know some people just absorb the negativity they experience and then spit it all over the place. They project their insecurities onto others and as soon as they get power they abuse it instead of doing some self-reflection and healing and being the change they wanna see in the world. Plus: If normalizing fat bodies in the media is your main priority, there's a high risk that you get kind of blinded by that and ignore all the other things that are relevant in society...
@kassguerra9791
@kassguerra9791 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been binge watching your videos like crazy & my husband started watching them with me yesterday. We enjoy your channel & I have been looking forward to a new video!!
@Gresysa
@Gresysa Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how fast you got this one out.
@soggydelafries
@soggydelafries Жыл бұрын
as soon as i found out abt this i was WAITING for you to make a vid on it literally dropped everything when i got the notif
@724teresa
@724teresa Жыл бұрын
She claims body positivity and embraces her sexuality but it looks more like she's just crass and inappropriate. If that's how she is COOL .But when being an employer you have to think more professional , know where to draw that line or hire someone to do that for you . Charlene Quigley gives off mean church girl like Mandy Moore in 2004 SAVED
@catrinacrystallina
@catrinacrystallina Жыл бұрын
We know she’s crass and inappropriate. Look up the gross and objectifying comments she made publicly and repeatedly about Chris Evans. She also claimed she would work with BTS is she could have seggs with all of them. 🤢
@wordnado9788
@wordnado9788 Жыл бұрын
To be honest I wouldn’t be surprised whichever way this went. I’ll be happy when we get some evidence
@lexisdrach9981
@lexisdrach9981 Жыл бұрын
The beginning got me, I knew Michelle was a woman of culture.
@madmim8766
@madmim8766 Жыл бұрын
It's weird. With this whole thing I'm pretty nuetral, innocent or guilty, neither would surprise me. My main thought is "I wonder who Lizzo passed off to let this happen." Especially with the way it's happening. I'm surprised it's so against her everywhere, as opposed to being split.
@thisbelitha
@thisbelitha Жыл бұрын
The abuse of power allegations was danced around in that response "statement".
@littlemonster2483
@littlemonster2483 Жыл бұрын
Mhm yes exactly!!! Some people are saying well why didn't the dancers just quit is ridiculous IMO. The dancers might need the job to keep a roof over their head or want to be professional dancers. The thing that I think people miss is Lizzo damn well knows that she's the only one with those type of dancers!!! Dancers that aren't slim are not usually picked.
@Screamintothevoid123
@Screamintothevoid123 Жыл бұрын
I'm not actually surprised I've heard a lot of people talk about meeting Lizzo in real life or having interactions with Lizzo to Collab with her and her actually being kind of bitchy.
@shenyuan_meimei
@shenyuan_meimei Жыл бұрын
That allegations of sexual harassement were so disgusting that I almost puked. I really want to know if this is real!!! God, please, dont let this story end in here, I have anxiety.
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 Жыл бұрын
These are very serious allegations, but I think they are true. There is a sex club in Amsterdam that is known for incorporating bananas into the acts, it's aptly called the Bananenbar. I think 9 out of 10 women would not want to set a foot into a place like that. These sex clubs don't compare to what most Americans imagine a strip club to be. It's not just women dancing around a pole taking off clothes, people are performing actual sex acts for the audience.
@inferiorinferno8859
@inferiorinferno8859 Жыл бұрын
@@DellaStreet123 Like I mentioned in my own comment, no sane person sets foot into that bar. I've never heard of someone completely normal, who doesn't has something fucked up going on in their head, going to that place.
@catrinacrystallina
@catrinacrystallina Жыл бұрын
There’s an interview that TMZ found where she’s asking about the banana club because she wanted to go. It seems like it’s a thing and their gimmick. But as Michelle stated when she was reading the complaints of the lawsuit, the employees who went did not know what kind of club they were going to so they didn’t know what they were signing up for when they went.
@katyalambo
@katyalambo Жыл бұрын
Random comment. I’m such a language nerd and love how open, honest and unapologetic you are about not being good at pronouncing words. You got acquiesce DOWN! Much love Michelle, keep pronouncing words how you do, I love it 😂❤
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks Жыл бұрын
I'm so impressed how fast you got this video out! Thank you!! ❤
@rluciano287
@rluciano287 Жыл бұрын
Everyone loves body positivity as long as everyone loves their body, but hate it as soon as they see a body different than their own🤦‍♀️
@porksrgoth
@porksrgoth Жыл бұрын
Michelle, you don’t know how much I’ve been waiting for your input in this situation. As always you delivered!
@artwithsaya
@artwithsaya Жыл бұрын
help I'm loosing out on artists whose songs are pretty bop. First it was the curb stomp fella, then miss arigato grenade, the moo queen and now lizzo.
@silververnallbells191
@silververnallbells191 Жыл бұрын
Try IVE and Blackpink :)
@artwithsaya
@artwithsaya Жыл бұрын
@@silververnallbells191 I do love me some bp in yo area and girls crashing on airplanes.
@MettleHurlant
@MettleHurlant Жыл бұрын
I love watching you talk into the (unplugged) giant microphone because I know you’re telling us the T at that point. I’m not a Lizzo fan so my opinions of her are solely based on headlines and commentary. It’s okay to love yourself at any size but delusional if you think you’re healthy being morbidly obese. Her team sounds like a mess! She must have really pissed them off in some way.
@tjheaven799
@tjheaven799 Жыл бұрын
OMG I been waiting for this video for days
@liviam1497
@liviam1497 Жыл бұрын
Lizzo could be like Adele...but She is like Cardi B...sadly
@audreydoyle5268
@audreydoyle5268 Жыл бұрын
Difference I suppose you're getting at, is that Adele is classy, and only spoken about her weight issues in retrospect. Because she actually did something about it.
@liviam1497
@liviam1497 Жыл бұрын
@@audreydoyle5268 Yes and also they are both talented but Lizzo chose to be cheap...it's kind of sad ....
@alien-vu7yl
@alien-vu7yl Жыл бұрын
We could have had it aaaaaall
@Thecravingsstudio
@Thecravingsstudio Жыл бұрын
Couldn't wait for your video because I love that you call people out on their bs
@nana-pw1hz
@nana-pw1hz Жыл бұрын
the only thing i have to say is that if those allegations aren't true im 100% shocked by those dancers' creativity because how the hell does one even come up with those things😭
@Bard420
@Bard420 Жыл бұрын
I’m not saying they made it up, and I’m not saying they’re telling the truth, but I could see it happening as - maybe those events did actually occur, but maybe the dancers didn’t actually have a problem with doing those things. I hate to even imply that, but I imagine if they were petty enough it’s like the perfect set up. I do feel like it’s a good thing they’re going to court though, leave it up for the courts to decide
@KrisRN23935
@KrisRN23935 10 ай бұрын
If that is pure imagination, they should go into writing. There would be a market for it.
@sweetsweatypeaches1328
@sweetsweatypeaches1328 Жыл бұрын
700000? That is so crazy I've been with you since just before 100k I think it was like 70,000! Love to see your growth!
@Mad_Beefs
@Mad_Beefs Жыл бұрын
Since the inception of this news we all thought of your channel and this very video. This is the moment we’ve been waiting for
@Gresysa
@Gresysa Жыл бұрын
Ngl My brain kept playing an image of Michelle cackling maniacally as she read the fat-shaming part of this news.
@wonderlandian8465
@wonderlandian8465 Жыл бұрын
It took me way too long to realize that there is not a single cord connected to that Blue Yeti microphone 😂🤣🤣 I was like "The modules of her voice don't change no matter where the mic is, what is the acoustics in this room?" 🤣🤣
@tiffjak
@tiffjak Жыл бұрын
You are the first person I thought about when I saw the headlines on twitter, I was like Michelle is going to have a FEILD DAY!
@bsangel93
@bsangel93 Жыл бұрын
I seriously wanna know how one LAUNCHES a toy from their nether regions….my goodness. I wasn’t even there and im scared 😂
@kiaragilbert7777
@kiaragilbert7777 Жыл бұрын
I have literally been WAITING to see what your thoughts on this whole situation are!
@mercyfulfate666
@mercyfulfate666 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting LIKE CRAZY for your video about it! 😂
@richmiola9158
@richmiola9158 Жыл бұрын
So glad to hear your perspective! Legit dropped your video right as I was walking into the gym so thank you for keeping me engaged for me cardio! You are the best Michelle I adore watching your content keep on keeping on Queen!
@TwiDashFTW
@TwiDashFTW Жыл бұрын
I like how people are surprised that Lizzo is hypocritical. I am never surprised when I find out these body positive influencers are hypocrites because their opinion is something only a toddler would believe and they only make it their whole persona because it got them fame.
@TwiDashFTW
@TwiDashFTW Жыл бұрын
Not judging people who make something their whole persona get your bag queen, but I AM judging the harmful opinions and hypocrisy. I hate hypocrisy.
@TwiDashFTW
@TwiDashFTW Жыл бұрын
Also the fact that these women are not skinny makes me believe them more because it can't be claimed they're going after her just because they're "fatphobic"
@robinswampangel
@robinswampangel Жыл бұрын
Seriously, there's absolutely no leg to stand on with this fat phobia nonsense.
@robinswampangel
@robinswampangel Жыл бұрын
In the dancers claim, I watched her say everything right from her mouth and face, she said
@robinswampangel
@robinswampangel Жыл бұрын
When she first started she told Lizzo that she has binge eating disorder and it gets really bad when she's stressed.
@lovelymaryw
@lovelymaryw Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video!! Great assessment as usual. I really love how you always take the time to consider both sides of an issue and never just fall in line with the trending opinions.
@stephaniephouotrides2435
@stephaniephouotrides2435 Жыл бұрын
Lizzo, a Hollywood hypocrite?!? Who knew?!?? 😮😅😅😅
@liliarosales1961
@liliarosales1961 Жыл бұрын
LOL you know you love this channel when you hear a scandal and the first thought is “I CANT WAIT FOR MICHELLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS!!!” As soon as the poop hit the fan I was like yes! Here comes a good one from Michelle
@comelordjesus4078
@comelordjesus4078 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for YOU to make the video on this. So happy
@PolishDora
@PolishDora Жыл бұрын
I could not wait for your take on it :) In Poland we have a saying "Najciemniej pod latarnią" meaning "the darkest place is under the candle" XD Also if Lizzo was a man, just the accusation would be enough for cancellation. Just saying Have a nice day people! Comment for stats
@aliiivalley
@aliiivalley Жыл бұрын
Oh, never heard that saying before, I like it. Now to wait for the perfect moment to use it and sound cool. I'll be sure to give Poland credit. =)
@wild62meg47
@wild62meg47 Жыл бұрын
Stumbled on one of your videos last week & subscibed on the spot, which I never do. Been binging on your vids since. No regrets. You are my favorite KZbin creator/performer of all time. You are a star-quality entertainer. I love your humor, make up, voices (evil Disney laugh!) the dogs, still photos that you put in for emphasis and the stuff you choose react to. You are hilarious -- not to mention brilliant and beautiful. Keep up the good work. You should be on Broadway.
@Tyler-he4pf
@Tyler-he4pf Жыл бұрын
I love you Michelle!!❤ Thank you for the video!
@brittanyfarley-bk1hz
@brittanyfarley-bk1hz Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe she made people think she was so positive! But here we are, the truth comes out.
@Ohaipanda
@Ohaipanda Жыл бұрын
The intro “Well, well, well.” Im like girl GIVE ME THE TEA!
@CecilMcfly
@CecilMcfly Жыл бұрын
Arianna has gained a lot of weight since the show has aired like a concerning amount ???
@tommo2965
@tommo2965 Жыл бұрын
09:43 imagine the judge having to say this in court 😭
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