Mormon Repression Goes Too Far

[@KiwiMarmaladeJr]

I can't help of the coach from Mean Girls who says "Don't have sex. You will get pregnant and die."

[@xx_ratfucker321_xx2]

Don’t have sex standing up,or have sex, cuz you will get pregnant AND DIE Me and the other gays,bis,and pans 🔴🔴🔴 👁 👁 🔴 👄🤚🏻🔴 I I. I _I_.

[@RobinSwede]

"our God is a god of love" "Wanna make love?" "God says that's not allowed"

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

makes perfect sense

[@monsieurbobblehead3854]

Brilliant.

[@v.c.105]

It's allowed if people are married to each other. Also, sex does not always equal love.

[@roojackaroo8517]

@@v.c.105 and also love does not equal to marriage, many people make rash decisions which they end up regretting and getting married to somebody they don't actually love

[@v.c.105]

@@roojackaroo8517 yes. They sometimes mistake infatuation with love.

[@AK-jl2wm]

No touching other peoples' sacred body parts? So they can't be certain types of doctors unless they marry all of their patients Got it

[@dextrician5932]

You cant be a doctor period. spiritual healing and all god does that for you.

[@TheRachaelLefler]

Well if you're female why would you be a doctor at all, you can't tell a male patient to take certain medicines, that's women expressing authority over a man. Expressly forbidden in the Bible. biblehub.com/1_timothy/2-12.htm

[@sindelcarr6570]

Well yea true but I know a few Mormon drs no woman that i know of personality I'm sure their is

[@NickKzig]

Technically that means only men can be Gynecologists... they just have to get temple sealed with their patients... >_>

[@kiera6326]

@@TheRachaelLefler+ If it saves the man's life, then I don't think Jesus is going to be upset with you for 'expressing authority over the man.' You are the doctor. He is the patient. He came to you for *your* guidance. If you tell him to take medicine that will make him better (which is presumably his goal,) then he better damn suck it up, and take it! There are some instances where there's no room for stupidity or absurdity...

[@realmofthemisunderstood166]

Ha! He never said I couldn’t touch MY OWN sacred parts.

[@heatherfarewell6851]

Realm of the misunderstood but there is a full section about the sun of masterbation given to teens, it was really awkward to read

[@utah133]

Oh, they say that a lot! I'm former Mormon.

[@randommemesweekly4417]

LMAO

[@realmofthemisunderstood166]

@@heatherfarewell6851 it was a joke

[@f0xygem]

Oh, don't worry; that's covered in another video.

[@generalkudzu8362]

*sends to my radical mormon mom*

[@monst3rderek259]

How dead are you now?

[@aratay3117]

@@monst3rderek259 He doesn't even have an afterlife anymore

[@tylergriffin3667]

They're safe. Most likely the mother could SMELL the sacrilege and just automatically ignored or deleted

[@ttrev007]

The sexual repression and shaming of the LDS is the longest lasting damage. The way they approach it is emotionally abusive. I am pretty sure God would not teach harmful ideas about sexuality.

[@darthutah6649]

Lol you wish. God also hates gay people.

[@ttrev007]

I was working under the assumption that God was good not the bible is true. Growing up the goodness of God was emphasized. So my concept of God growing up was that he was all good and moral. The Bible and Book of Mormon would be compared to the moral standard. It sounds like you are referring to the Bible God where it is the other way around (morals compared to the Bible Standard).

[@faie1806]

Darth Utah 66, as one of the members from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints, I know that both God and Heavenly Father loved all of us. It doesn't matter if what age, height, weight, sexuality, or gender that people are identified, they both love us. As a Mormon that grew up in the Mormon church, is Mormons will support anyone who is or isn't LGBT. I believe there was a video about it too, but it was a probably five or six years ago. I don't remember when but I know there is. Just putting it out there. I don't want to cause any trouble or anything. Have a good day, evening, or night.

[@Tur713]

I understand, I grew up in the church and the oppressive environment regarding sexuality left me with nothing but shame and wondering why I couldn't just be better. Things get better when you're out and you can accept yourself as a human.

[@KarlAndArma4ever]

I'm asexual as fuck and probably would've been okay if my branch (or, more specifically, my parents) didn't automatically assume I was an aspiring sexual deviant by sheer virtue of being a teenager. It was suffocating.

[@andybee1381]

That "teenager" has male pattern baldness

[@johnnygreenface]

Miss Adjusted ya

[@otakuman1218]

Miss Adjusted that 50-something looking “teenager”.

[@bonniebunnie1714]

The truth comes out

[@charliedawson8509]

And Mormon dads start balding in their 30s and they have extremely dry hands

[@tylergriffin3667]

Draws an allowance AND social security.

[@krrris11231]

I went to a high school with abstinence only Sex Ed, and it was HORRIBLE EDUCATION. My senior year, we were asked to write a five-page paper on a “controversial” subject and if you got an A you could do a presentation for extra credit. Almost everyone did something about marijuana. I wrote mind on how sex education in school effects teen pregnancy rates, and the main point was how abstinence only programs result in a higher risk of teen pregnancy (and other stuff about how fucking stupid these “educational” programs are). I got an A because my English teacher wasn’t a moron, but the guidance counselor told me I couldn’t present it because It was inappropriate and went against our school’s values, as in religious values. Why sex education can't actually be EDUCATIONAL I don't understand it and it pisses me off to this day.

[@thatgirlthathatestumblr785]

Gorillaz

[@bradycall1889]

That must've sucked. I was lucky to have been in sex ed classes that taught a combination of both abstinence and contraceptives.

[@youtoo2233]

People are so obsessed with marijuana, I think they look like idiots smoking it, and I've noticed people who have used it a long time seem to have memory loss among other things, even young people

[@chrettycanon4252]

My parents tried to not tell me about sex and tried to act like it didn't exist and I was reading hardcore porn by 12 so *shrug*

[@AK-jl2wm]

Reading Like... Fanfics? Because that seems to be where a lot of people start lol

[@menendez6218]

u mean SMUT

[@samwindlove6844]

Ruby Føx _SOME GOOD _*_LEMONS_*

[@menendez6218]

Brianna BlankWANT SOME MILK ?

[@xx_ratfucker321_xx2]

9 for me

[@elise6080]

i live in oklahoma and all they teach us is dont have sex or you will die. In class i spoke up about this once saying sex isnt always a big serious thing and it can just be a good fun time between 2 people. I was called a whore, and the teacher accused me of not being a virgin, and said i will die of an std before i am 25. I was in 7th grade then. And you know what else? Oklahoma has the second highest rate of teen pregnancies in the US

[@pixelmuncher9967]

Damn, I feel so bad. That's so fucking stupid. If you're old enough, prepare right, and know the possible consequences then I personally think that you should be able to have sex if you would like. Also why the hell would a teacher say such a thing? That's horrible.

[@ryukobestwaifu3319]

Gyllen Boll without straight sex cus you know

[@jamiehamel3183]

Jenny Cork im sorry that happened to you! I received a pretty good sex education in 6th grade health class in kansas, but now live in oklahoma and i am appalled! I am impressed u had such strength to speak out! Good for you!

[@lil_ykan]

yes!!! I go to a catholic school in oklahoma and our sex ed was basically "don't have sex or you'll betray god!! homosexuality is a sin!! birth control is a sin!!" and yet kids at my high school are having sex left and right, not knowing how to be safe.

[@elise6080]

Lily Noobengoobler well i dont go to a catholic school i go to public, but i know a few people in catholic school, and they even even got sex ed. The closest to that was learning about femal anatomy and periods.

[@lolkiu64]

Here's a Mormon joke I heard today... What do Mormon girls do at a party when they bring the beer out? Put their shirts back on and go home (credit goes to: generic_apostate)

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

lol. thats funny

[@cidneyhart4917]

Can someone explain this one for me

[@lolkiu64]

There's a Mormon girl stereotype type where they are known for doing things they are not supposed to do (blow jobs for example) on days like Saturday, then on Sunday they go back to being perfectly normal. (This isn't true for most Mormon girls of course) The joke just makes fun of the fact that a Mormon girl (who is an example of this stereotype) wouldn't do anything against their religion (beer at a party) but they come up with a excuse to make sex ok for themselves before going back to being perfect or whatever. I hope that's enough for you ;)

[@OxyPox]

They never even take their shirts off.

[@lolkiu64]

It's just a joke, as I stated before it's just a mormon girl stereotype Honestly now that its been a month I don't really think it's that funny anymore.

[@shwommers]

About the military pilot analogy: It doesn't just work that way. Alright, you set yourself a limit. (abstinence, which is perfectly ok if you want!) But what happens if you accidentally fall lower than that 500 feet? You probably wouldn't know how to do anything, even after flying for 5, 10, or even 15 years. That's the point of sex ed - to teach them how to have safe sex, should it happen anytime. Promoting abstinence until marriage isn't a bad thing, but if they don't know how to use a damn condom at the age of 19/20, it's probably the school's fault.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

i agree. but over half the states take funding from the federal government to teach abstinence only sex ed classes

[@shwommers]

Telltale Atheist Might as well have no sex ed at all.

[@pinkishtoast3561]

Galaxy Mormons are educated on how to have safe sex by their parents, but it's still considered a sin outside of marriage.

[@KarlAndArma4ever]

My Mormon parents taught me through science books checked out from the public library how reproduction works and added that sex was only for making babies, so I'd better not be having sex before marriage. They also demonized the ever living shit out of masturbation and all things birth control (y'know that myth about BC pills causing infertility? They peddled it like no tomorrow). Bizarrely, they sat me down when I was in middle school and said that, should anything happen, they'd be willing to provide an abortion.

[@johnw5584]

StoppedGalaxy Is it really that difficult to know how to use a condom, that you need to have a class to do that?

[@loffeine3454]

"your drawings SUCC!" -Telltale, 2017

[@motor5737]

I was drawing when he said "your drawing sucks" and as scared for a second because it's 12 am and I'm on an art rampage help.

[@cursedwithsetience4017]

Smoke LOL, I get you.

[@alejandropoczynokh]

Puberty sucks

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

My opinion of how to handle sex education. Encourage kids to wait. Not necissarily for marriage but for someone they care about. We all get exactly one first time and we should try not to throw it away casually. After saying that give them a clear understanding of the forms of birth control, their use and effictiveness. While I'd rather kids wait till the time was right I'd much rather a hundred kids have a casual SAFE first time then one teenage pregnancy or std.

[@dontburstmybubble686]

Paranormal Encyclopedia agreed

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

Holy fuck that already sounds much better than the current sex ed curriculum

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

Joe Mama My family was Catholic but they didn't really push anything on me.

[@PrincessNinja007]

It needs to be supplemented with general good decision making. Like I knew the risks and I was 100% pro-condom, refused to negotiate that point, wanted to wait for someone I cared about... ...then two weeks into college this guy sulked for 3 hours, which made me cry and give him whatever he wanted, unprotected, just to get him to stop sulking.

[@zeineb8870]

@@PrincessNinja007 I am sorry you had to go through that and by the way what that guy did is really not okay, it's sexual abuse if not rape because you didn't consent for having unprotected sex.

[@kyrabell6216]

5:52 totally agree that's it's creepy, when I was a Mormon kid I thought it was so weird. People called each other "Brother John" and "Sister Mary" and seeing the same picture of Jesus everywhere, it felt like a cult and today when I think of it, it reminds me of how in North Korea there's pictures of their leader everywhere

[@arop5458]

Kyra Bell I used to be a Mormon and I definitely agree with your comment

[@MrWebbja01]

Your comment really gave me a flash back lol. That same creepy ass Jesus painting, everywhere. Every house, every room of every church, I even saw it at the store, gas station, and in the principals office. It always stared at you.

[@kyrabell6216]

MrWebbja01 I know exactly what you mean lol

[@ditzyrose700]

My entire family is Mormon, and I didn't even give it a second thought until videos like this one pointed it out.. It's scary how easy it is to not question these habits.

[@KarlAndArma4ever]

I actually got nauseous watching this video, it was so creepily surreal.

[@elizabethpetersen5226]

Joseph Smith Logic: Joseph: No dating till' you're sixteen! Joseph: *marries 14 year old*

[@stephenaviaspace5056]

Joseph didn't say that it was said a couple years ,ater

[@treffs3929]

Does this apply if your gay 😜

[@marclikesmoths]

Atheist Alien hopefully not

[@memedojo5436]

Telltale Atheist ha i get it "but fuck it"

[@ihavenooriginalnameideas9036]

thats a good point 🤔

[@aes2621]

Nah, they would just send you to a pray away the gay camp

[@miles1902]

The gay rule is like don’t be gay it’s bad pray it away so when that doesn’t work fuck whoever you want and leave the church

[@abditorysystem4877]

Well, I wouldn't shower or go to the bathroom in front of my parents, so I guess I'll die a really smelly death via constipation?

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

urea poisoning first

[@kostonforever2005]

So what's having sex then? Flying into the ground?

[@Sandstimes]

GameStuck Zeta u can fly ur plane into my ground 😩

[@ThickiVicki]

Yes.

[@TruffleSeeker54]

I guess sex during marriage would be like this dallasnews.imgix.net/1046-f35%20refuel-thumb-400x314.jpg

[@reptilprinceoflizardpeople5797]

How about I land the plane? Then what?

[@nightcollapse]

Janet Kazarowski Haha, that's just hysterical 😂

[@buringplumbranches]

My abusive mother drilled into me about waiting until marriage. i was really hard to have a boyfriend because they all thought i was a prude. as an adult i still have a hard time with being intimate with men. but i decided that if it requires batteries it doesn't count as sex outside marriage :D

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

lol that works. personally, i decided that i don't care if i have sex outside of marriage. i'm technically married but my wife and i have been separated for 5 years so i guess i NEVER have sex outside of marriage, no matter who it's with.

[@kushydank4203]

burningplumbranches counts as masturbation. Hell here we come!

[@dodojesus4529]

So tinder? Jk

[@dx1450]

I've heard others who were brought up in a strict "no sex" family say that they also had problems becoming intimate with someone in their relationships, as well as having issues getting into relationships in the first place. I'm starting to believe that sexual repression is not only bad for your mental health, but also makes it hard to have healthy relationships.

[@ProfessorYaoiI]

burningplumbranches lol why do you put batteries in your ass thats nit safe

[@alphaforce0939]

lol instead of playing over watch in the background you draw anime 😂 also you make good points so I subscribed

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

lol thanks. i don't always draw anime. it's hit or miss

[@holdenroberts6973]

Telltale You're a good artist though. Definitely better than those you were refuting.

[@oliveryt7168]

@@holdenroberts6973 You do realize that this is most likely not drawn freely..

[@JackCashStuff]

The Mormon videos lately have hit really close to home. One of my friends was forced to condition herself to believe she wasn't attracted to anyone. It's fucking terrible. She has plenty of problems with her church but they just re-word stuff, lie, and give the illusion of leniency to get her back in line.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

i know. it's really sad

[@stephenaviaspace5056]

@@OwenMorganTelltale hi how are you

[@cheekybastard7798]

"When you feel the Holy Ghost confirm your standards" how many joints did that guy smoke before making this video

[@ryukobestwaifu3319]

7:05 when your killer is smiling

[@acutechicken5798]

Sorry, can't like: it is at 123 likes now.

[@TheoryWitch]

AHHHHHH!!! THE EYEEEEEEEESSSS!!!!!!

[@blakethecommunist3301]

"By touching somebody's sacred parts you'll crash your plane into the trees! But, if you don't and remain pure you'll safely crash your plane into the building!" -religeon

[@jvttblvck103]

He is the only one who can have nice drawings

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

thats right. all other drawings SUCK

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

except for fan art. those drawings are the shit

[@jvttblvck103]

Telltale Atheist Not I mention the ones that they drew were like super creepy. Their pupils are too small and slightly cross eyes xD Cool talking to you man!

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

lol for sure. thanks

[@ミコムみこむ]

Come here constantly to find a new video and I nailed one. I recently came out as an Athiest, but unfortunately my mom still wants me to go to church. I respect her and her wishes and still go but I don't really care about it. But now I have to go to church and face my friends and the church leaders (because I quit the choir and told them it was because I'm an Athiest) Im not sure I can do this, I feel scared, and exposed. I don't know how to feel.

[@CalmSanity]

MCP I'm in the same situation, I'm not sure what church you used to be in but I'm an ex mormon bit i still have to attend church or move out. My mom is fine with me being an atheist as long as I attend church. and since i didn't go on a mission it makes it really awkward.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

feel powerful. you aren't at their mercy anymore. you have no responsibilities toward them anymore. the fact that you are now atheist after being christian implies that you have strong convictions and you know why you don't hold those beliefs anymore.

[@TheJatinderAU]

I have a Mormon wife and i was a Mormon when i got married and now I'm atheist and antitheist on top of that. I tried to have a discussion with my wife but it doesn't end well as i compare her beliefs with other made up things and ask her how would she tell the difference. It offends her. I love her but i can't believe nonsense cuz belief is not a choice as opposed to what she thinks. I go to church once in month or something but then i can't help but mock their rhetoric, false analogies, appeal to emotions and testimonies. I can empathise with you guys. Its hard when you have to go against whole family in order to live an honest life. I would rather live an honest life than lie everyday to keep the peace but its just me. Your circumstances could be different. I hope you guys find a way out of it. Btw i still wear those magical underwear but for different reasons. Cuz they are comfy

[@NoU-jc4kq]

calmsanity Sweet Deal

[@treffs3929]

Just make a deal with them. You get half a hour to try to convince them and your Christian wife, mother, friend etc get half a hour to convince you (which will not work )

[@xianestyles68]

i grew up a witness and I'm still currently being forced to go until i move out and there's this lady in my Hall that believes she's one of the 144,000 that will be up in wonderland, whoops I mean "the heavens" with jehovah when the world will supposedly end. the other people in the Hall believe her and kind of treat her like she's some kind of higher being and its weird as hell. the part in the video about the mormans having "living prophets" reminded of this lady.

[@BrookerBracker]

Mormons, Morproblems

[@tomasthebroski9326]

WTF DOES TREES HAVE TO DO WITH KISSING!?

[@kkwun4969]

You can kiss my tree Sorry lol

[@nightcollapse]

Federal Bureau Of Investigations lmao the fbi is flirting with you, be flattered 😂

[@doc8125]

Carly Dream it makes the wood hard

[@reclamike3691]

Yh i guess.. it is ... ???

[@vylbird8014]

These religious sorts generally don't care about contraception because they believe that unmarried couples shouldn't have need for it and married couples should be ready for children. Even if they have no steady income or secure accommodation - don't worry about it, God will make it all turn out well in the end. And women shouldn't be worrying about their career anyway, that goes against God's design for them.

[@xaenon]

+Vyl Bird Religion's obsession with abstinence is just one more mechanism of manipulation, one more string they can yank to make you dance to their tune. That's all religion is - manipulation and exploitation.

[@xaenon]

+UnbaptizedHeathen The concept of marriage has been around for millennia. It predates all current religions and can be traced back to tribal cultures. Religion claims dominion over marriage; each faith claiming that it is the source of the institution of marriage, and attempting to codify it. Almost universally, each religion identifies the 'ideal' situation as this: both man and woman of the same faith, married according to that faith's laws, sex only within the bounds of that marriage, producing as many children as possible and raising them according to that doctrines of that faith. And divorce is not an option, at least not according to religious doctrine. Take away even ONE of those factors, and the indoctrination of the child is at risk. Mixed-faith marriages, children raised outside of wedlock, , etc. tend to produce children who question that religion's doctrine. And no religion anywhere has conclusive answers that prove their ideology is absolutely true to someone who was exposed to other doctrines. Marriages that are electively childless are an abomination according to the doctrines of most religions. Same reason. No child to gain influence over. One less obedient follower in the next generation. In fact, if I remember correctly, a marriage that is childless due to a medical issue is still grounds for an annulment, at least according to my upbringing as a Catholic. Yeah, 'annulment' - the Catholic method of ending a marriage without divorce, by declaring the marriage 'invalid' from the beginning. While there is some merit to your argument that religion isn't 'obsessed' with abstinence, they DO rather insist that sex take place only their jurisdiction, because they have a vested interest in the outcome.

[@cruj2255]

UnbaptizedHeathen the ancient Greeks where pretty open about sex. being bi was the norm, and their religion didn't shone sex, since one of the main characteristics of their most important god was literally the fact he couldn't keep it in his pants. And celts could divorce, there were even rules about the splitting of the money and who got to keep what. Making sex unholy isn't that universal (but it's present in quite a lot of cultures)

[@vylbird8014]

It is worth noting that, while all religions do try to codify marriage, they to not all hold to the one-man-one-woman model. In the ancient world polygamy was common, for quite practical reasons (the importance of rulers producing an heir, and an excess of women due to men tending to die younger). It still is allowed by some schools of Islam today, as well as a very small number of Christian and Jewish sects. It's also rather interesting that, among those religions which used to allow polygamy and now prohibit it, they don't actually acknowledge the change - instead believers will universally explain that real marriage was monogamous from the very beginning, it's just that people were practicing the religion incorrectly for the first few centuries.

[@xaenon]

+Mackenzie B Well, I imagine that there are significant limitations with regard to how long, and how MUCH, assistance you could expect, and I also imagine those limits are flexible dependent on a number of factors. I mean, if we remove the religious component for a moment, this is the very idea behind a commune. I'd also bet my bottom dollar that there is considerable favoritism involved, too, although I'm sure it would be worded in such a way as to appear otherwise. I'd also guess that there is considerable pressure (passive-aggressive, of course) involved once you're the recipient of such aid. After all, religion is renowned for the guilt trips, n'est pas?

[@philipligget8436]

oh its worse, my ex was a former mormon and she told me about their "law of chastity" where they legit ask individuals if they've done anything forbidden, (btw masturbation is forbidden) and if you broke the law of chastity you're barred from going to temple.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

fucking insane. poor people. i feel so bad for people who are still on the inside

[@ThickiVicki]

HA im definitely banned and I haven’t even joined yet.

[@Tur713]

This is very, very true. It feels like shit when someone tells you that you aren't worthy to participate in the temple trip the other teens are all going on. Once I had become not "temple worthy" (actual words they use), I could never quite clean up my act enough to ever go again.

[@S3rial777]

One word for all of this: Doublethink.

[@doxd7441]

Ayyy. 1984 tho

[@denz4133]

to anyone who doesn't know what 'doublethink' is, go read "1984"

[@marcuseverett1642]

I dated a Christian girl who broke up with me because she freaked out after she found out how badly SHE wanted sex... It's a long story but I'm a male who isn't motivated by sex, so I'm in no hurry. We didn't have our first kiss (it was her FIRST kiss and she was in her 20's!) Until 3 months in... and she... Literally... couldn't handle it... not because she didn't enjoy kissing and some petting... but she literally couldn't grasp the fact that she was a human... with needs. I always wanted to date a "real Christian" until that fiasco... the baked in shame of purity culture ruined an otherwise great relationship.

[@bradycall1889]

Now that's a very awful and horrible story. Hope you can recover from it eventually!

[@sparklethefarkle]

My science teacher said: abstinence is the most effective birth control, but teaching abstinence is the least effective population control

[@SilliesrShark109]

I like your drawings you do in your videos. Your very skilled First

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

thanks i appreciate it

[@jackmartin4657]

Random Gasmask actually, 7th

[@emilyyoung9285]

*you’re

[@braindead8269]

YOU’RE* REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@wolf1066]

I was raised: "keep it safe, sane and consensual... and wait until you're legally of age."

[@austintea]

"Oh and BTW your drawings suck", tell tale has changed alot, now he avoids insulting people so going back and watching him insult this person's drawing ability constantly is very weird

[@sarahdougall9535]

Honestly, I have been a mormon all my life. I did a lot of stuff that they say we shouldn't, and honestly, the only emotional issue that I faced was the fact that I had anxiety because I had been told not to do this all of my life. I don't know where they're coming from on this one honestly.

[@sarahdougall9535]

But I do know why they have this rule. It's so that you can "build stronger relationships without having sex" as my seminary teacher put it.

[@mcruz1120]

Wow, just, wow. ( also, it's great to see you again telltale. Keep it up. )

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

thanks. ill try :s

[@HannahMoore]

As a teen currently being raised in the faith i find It's all really weirdin all honesty. you're not allowed to date until you're 16 (I'm 17 now and still no date tbh) and even then you can only go on group dates and you can't go on multiple dates with the same person in a row until you decide he's the one for you. I've even known girls who aren't allowed to go out with someone twice in a row so they have to find another to use as filler between dates. Plus there's just so many rules drilled into our heads and so much detail in the religion.

[@candybomb8082]

Okay but how does flying too low to the ground: Killing you and smashing someone with protection and proper use of birth control: Which doesn't kill you the same thing?? I don't understand????

[@sandisue8249]

They also teach that men can not control themselves when aroused. That the man is innocent if something happens, even if the victim is underage or did not consent. The questions they ask the victim are about what they did to cause the mans behavior.

[@battlepants8]

As an exmormon, the ONLY piece of good relation advice I ever got from the cult is you should set some time (usually weekly) with your spouse away from whatever would keep you two apart such as kids, your job, etc.

[@bearhugzfam649]

This is the big area that me and my LDS friends disagree on so damn much, this pisses me off to the nth degree. It's not just telling teens and YA's not the be sexually active with each other, it's also big on no porn, no masturbation, etc. etc. which... no! I've seen evidence, both scientific and anecdotal, that men (especially teens and YA's) who go for even a few days without popping one off can suffer from higher levels of aggression, poor focus, poor problem solving and decision making skills, they're more likely to take risks - basically they're walking around drunk 24/7. Want to know some of the consequences of safe sex outside of marriage? Fuck diddly. Wanna know some of the consequences of sexual abstinence? Pretty much everything up to and including suicide. As a mother, this worries the crap out of me. And then it comes to their hit and miss sex ed in general. Some LDS to actually teach safe sex pretty openly, they're not ALWAYS abstinence only, and many churches do encourage their members to be more open with their kids about sex. That's great, that's a step in the right direction... and yet, I have a pair of LDS friends who got married 2 years ago who will forever remember their wedding night as "the night she found out what the hymen was" "the night he learned why foreplay is important" and "the night they both learned badly done sex can be really really painful, and they spend 4 hours in ER because she started bleeding and thought she was gonna die." It's also "the night her sacred place reserved only for her husband" was examined by two complete strangers she'd never met to make sure she wasn't actually hurt. They remember that night the way most people would remember a rape, and have both come away from it with pretty serious emotional issues. What was that the church was saying about consequences of sex outside of marriage, again?

[@mysteryheart53]

Doesn’t porn do something bad to your brain tho? Masturbation doesn’t tho

[@bearhugzfam649]

@@mysteryheart53 yes and no. There are bad things that *can* happen to your brain on specific types of porn same as there are bad things that *can* happen with masturbating, both coming down to how addictive we find sex and orgasms and how dopamine chasing works. There’s some nuance to what the bad stuff is it but ultimately education is the answer not aggressive denial or premarital sexuality

[@lucistaker7960]

what about people who are gay?? still a sin? ridiculous..

[@cavejohnson4306]

Luci Staker yeah, Mormons hate gay people.

[@humanbeing7565]

Oof mormons are the definition of homophobic. If ur gay u can't get into vip heaven, u can't get married to the person u love, and u can't become mormon if ur parents are gay unless you are over 18, moved out and openly hate your parents marriage. Also technically you can't go to the temple if you agree with lgbg people having the same rights as cishet people

[@foxtoons1999]

Find the box that's gay and CRUSH IT! Okay?

[@raptureofscion9465]

Being a former member of the church and seeing all the young 20 something getting married after only dating a month made me feel they only got married to have sex

[@caribbeanman3379]

Look, they're using whiteboard animation just like the JWs! Are they copying from the JWs or are the JWs copying from them?

[@fantage20012]

Caribbean Man It's a template from a website. I think it's called powtoons or something like that.

[@jeremyschultze4429]

My mom died when I was a 12 so all I had was my dad. He would talk shit if I wasn't trying to do things with a girl. I'm so glad he was ok with me kissing or doing whatever with a girl. He caught me having sex in my room and all he did was shut the door and walk away. He never said anything about it.

[@charadreemurr_undertale_1983]

I go to the lds church but I am always happy to hear another oppinion

[@zoe.h.nelson04]

Other Christian sects definitely say 'Heavenly Father'. It's a very common start to a prayer

[@BurnerAccountForschoolstuff]

Hey telltale. I have a crush on a very attractive very kind, but also very religious Mormon guy. I think he's so sweet, but he's very religious. I don't know if I should stop liking him or what. Help?

[@WoWNimblybimbly]

Abbigal Smith I wouldn't suggest getting involved with someone who has strong religious ties since that would be ground into you, and your children, if you both were to extend the relationship. From what I've seen, and heard women aren't valued as equal people to men in that religion. The moment you get married that could come out of him. He might just be love bombing everyone around him, and then the real guy comes out behind closed doors. But, it's ultimately your decision to hook up with him, or not. Be careful, and take care hun.

[@mikesirman3148]

Gotta be realistic. If u dated him and things went to a greater level are u ok with ur children being raised as mormons? Do you want to be a part of the LDS culture? Are ur values compatible with how eachother wants to live? Are ur politics compatible? On a nice note, mormon men tend to statistically be more loyal than the national average man. Good luck

[@Sam-uj9kn]

I know I'm late. But its okay have feeling for them, but you should respect their beliefs. Take it slow and warm up to then in a relationship. And worse comes to worse, their other people for you!

[@BurnerAccountForschoolstuff]

samiam wouldyelikesomegreeneggsandham Hi! So its been a while and we've become super close friends. I ended up telling him I like him and he told me that he can't date until college cause he's a Mormon. This made me sad but we're still really close friends, but sometimes I feel like he's flirting with me or he wants more then just a friendship now that he knows the truth. So now I'm all confused.

[@idontcare4242]

You should corrupt him

[@meganrasmussen9595]

Oh my god, the video started playing and all of a sudden I was frozen as a self-righteous,16-year-old Mormon in Sunday School who was absolutely judging everyone around me based on how close to the treetops I'd heard they'd gotten.

[@bris6553]

Ugh I used to be Mormon ( my dad always made us go) the sole reason I want to go at ALL was because I had friends I really liked talking to. There was a bunch of things you could and could not do for example you can’t even date anyone before you’re 16 for something like to being too emotionally attached (probably something else related to marriage)before ‘courting age’ to someone. I mean that wasn’t a problem for me but I thought it was stupid. No alcohol or drugs, no sex before marriage, no dishonesty(like I was going to keep this rule whenever we didn’t go),donate 10% of income ( I’ll keep my cash thank you. I earned it), don’t view pornography( I can somewhat agree), no same sex relationships (while they do tolerate it apparently you can’t marry), you have to keep ‘sabbath day holy’( you HAVE to go to church, you cannot work on Sundays), no cussing or ‘taking the lords name in vain’, no abortion, and no cigarettes, tea, and coffee( yeah right like people are going to do that). Rules for missionaries are even worse I’m not going to list it because it would be even longer so I’m leaving a link instead. www.lds4u.com/Missionaries/rules.htm

[@stephenaviaspace5056]

You can still work in sundays if you need to... Just remember about Heavenly Father and his son Jesus Christ... Join in sacrament meetings as much as you can ok i stop i'm telling too much

[@anepicotter4595]

As an atheist who was raised Mormon, Mormons haven’t actually been allowed to practice polygamy legally or religiously in a long time.

[@daniboy9198]

Happy to see that you put out another video. :) Man, that Mormon cartoon is CREEPY. And intrusive! How is it anyone's business what happens to another person's "private, sacred parts"? Pft! Sorry, can't even type that w/o laughing my a$$ off! :D So funny. Reminds me of my days in the SDA church. Actually, I don't recall being allowed to even talk about our private, sacred parts... B/c, u know, NOT talking about something makes it either not happen or go away... 😔

[@moonmann4072]

Are Seventh Day Adventists cultist in anyway? I've always been an SDA member until recently but I don't think I ever felt I was in a cult.

[@daniboy9198]

Hmm, good question. I've heard some people say no, SDA is not a cult, but I've also heard other people say that yes, it is. There are checklists that people have used to determine if SDA is a cult or not. SDA does tend to be quite different from other, more mainstream branches of Christianity, so that probably doesn't help matters... If you are interested in looking into this, I'd recommend doing some research. I've read a lot of books, articles, etc. on this topic over the years, and I can understand why the SDA church is viewed as a cult by some. When I was SDA, it used to bother me whenever anyone "attacked" my faith in any way, but as a former SDA member, that sort of thing doesn't bother me anymore. :)

[@moonmann4072]

Dani Boy I'll definitely look into this. Thanks for the response :)

[@daniboy9198]

You're welcome. 😊

[@dinonid1234]

"Don't do anything to arouse the emotions..." were you a teenager? The only way to not arouse sexual emotions as a teen is to not be conscious, and even then that's not consistent. Actually "were you ever a teenager" is a pretty good question for these people. Did y'all skip from 10 to being married? Not ever doing anything sexual before marriage is pretty dang impossible for teenagers that don't want to be suffering.

[@bobthet-rex2718]

That's sad that your parents refuse to talk to you

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

it is

[@saralawson116]

There was an advertisement for a Mormon church before the video

[@ariachermansky7836]

Don't lie on anyone? But what if I just want to snuggle with someone I love? I just want snuggles (;--------;)

[@atozed932]

Kiwi Kitty103 OwO just don't join a cult.

[@coriander2358]

What if our friend group lays on each other creating a huge human sandwich for fun?

[@elizabethjohnson4623]

holy shit. I watched this video growing up. The fact that it's brought up is wild. Now that I've found my way of agnosticism, being an ex-mormon, this is amazing. Thank you for tearing this garbage disposal of a church a new asshole.

[@fionamoran8510]

YES YES I WAS BINGE WATCHING HIS VIDEOS TODAY AND HE UPLOADED

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

a good time to binge watch my videos. i usually upload on weekends. but be careful. the further back you go in my vid history, the cringier it gets

[@beltrancaston]

I like the cringy stuff......?

[@beltrancaston]

@telltale Atheist please do more cringy stuff.....?????????!!!

[@mayanightstar]

Hey I'd appreciate it if someone could give me advice. I have a friend from high school who is mormon whom I haven't talked to in a good while, for many reasons including my realizing how cultish mormonism was and frankly it was creepy. She's an intelligent person and there's a chance she's seen through the bullshit and is trapped. How can I reach out to her in a way that wouldn't offend her beliefs if she really does believe this stuff, but also offers her help if she needs it to get out? If she wants to stay I don't really want to continue the relationship, but I'm a decent person and I don't like to offend people...

[@putzthewondersloth]

Honestly, you should never even let yourself become attracted to another human being. It's all just a slippery slope from there. Actually, never going out or interacting with anyone else would be a good idea.

[@zeteri4563]

putzthewondersloth That's not what's taught in the religion. Alot of what he says in the video is half right and at the end when he's drawing the temple he was actually completely wrong.

[@billiegrimm-stone3866]

I used to have to buy pregnancy tests for my mormon cousin all the time lol. She refused to buy condoms or let her boyfriend buy them because "if we have condoms then we might have sex". And then they always just had sex anyways. Logic lol

[@Dooms-Daisy]

Spooky Mormon hell dream

[@rajanogray9088]

dooms daisy You blamed your brother for eating a donut and now you walk out on your mission companion?

[@reoij]

Lol it's just a song from the musical "The book of mormon"

[@thelifeofwyatt8316]

Omg wow great refernce

[@kaitocross]

Civil marriage does count in the mormon church as a marriage that allows you to have sex with that partner. And practising polygamy will get you excommunicated from said church. Civil marriage and sealing may be done in the temple at the same time and same place in the US as far as i know. In the EU that is not allowed, so church members must have a civil marriage with another church member of the opposite sex first before being allowed to be sealed to one another.

[@upsidedownhogwartsposter5821]

Telltale, I really love your videos and I love your sense of humor. I think it would be awesome if you did a video on the mormon "magic underpants" and have you ever listened to The Book of Mormon the musical? If so did you like it?

[@TheRachaelLefler]

I don't see what's so weird about temple garments when many religions have clothing that they wear all the time for religious reasons. Like a Jewish man's skullcap, a Muslim woman's headscarf, etc. It just means the same thing. Some bit of clothing worn as a sign of religious devotion. I'm just a spiritual-leaning atheist. But if Mormons are crazy and stupid for their temple garments, than everyone is equally stupid for thinking that a cosmic God entity cares about something as petty as clothing. And Mormons are contradicting Jesus' message about 'consider the lilies' (www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A27-40&version=ESV). The reason non-priests don't wear special clothing in Christianity is part of Christian philosophy, because Jesus told people not to be concerned with petty, material things. Including clothing.

[@introvert4931]

I love Matt Stone and Trey Parker... I was laughing so hard when I first saw The Book of Mormon, they are truly comedy gods :>

[@Bibky]

Although I still disagree with the classification of Mormonism being a cult, I do agree with your criticisms of the church, I used to be mormon and as a teenager I completely ignored all teachings of the church and decided to be active in intimate relationships. Many of my Mormon friends were so sexually repressed, that at one point (usually after their mission or once out of their parents supervision) now with little sex education get STD's or a pregnancy, it's dangerous and is VERY common among MANY Mormon teenagers, these pregnancies are usually covered up by these young women due to their overwhelming shame that any woman would have Mormon or not.

[@anunluckyducky4157]

Yes papi posted

[@braindead8269]

wat

[@theycallmemagic]

Honestly i think its more dangerous never having sex with your partner before marriage then it is having it after marriage only to realize you never loved the person and you just wanted to have sex with them. now your stuck with a toxic marriage and a kid you dont want.

[@berylredburrow__8810]

Thank you. I remember this one to, and I hate that I believed this stuff. BTW, your art is awesome.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

thanks

[@winterandruin5232]

I was made to go to semenary as a kid and I actually had to watch this damn video in class. Ironically going to semenary made me an atheist. Something about being bombarded with horseshit for 80min. a day really turns you away from it.

[@protoss523]

The seal between a man and woman doesn't let anyone get around anything you can only be sealed to one person at a time. If your husband or wife passes away then you can be seal to another and no this isn't just for men.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

interesting. I'm going to add that to the description

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

except that what i meant when i said only men can do it is that only men can be sealed to multiple people. that's true. women can't be sealed to multiple men, but men can be sealed to multiple women

[@protoss523]

That not the main branch I grow up in.

[@ThomasJDavis]

+protoss523 If you're Mormon (yes, the sect of Mormonism headquartered in SLC), then I'm sure you'll be familiar with past and present leaders such as Joseph Fielding Smith, Harold B. Lee, Howard W. Hunter, Dallin H. Oaks, and Russell M. Nelson who are all on record as sealed to a second spouse after their first spouse had died. It is _absolutely_ the case that polygamy has evolved in the church now to merely being sealed to another wife after the first wife has passed away, enabling polygamous relationships in the Celestial Kingdom.

[@protoss523]

Thomas Davis I'm not still part of the chruch for a number years but i was taking about is the main chruch not the fdl they are not same group and yes i am awere of the leaders who ether allowed or promoted but that was long before i was born

[@ShotgunLlama]

Turn that poop. Into wine. Turn that poop. Into- Oh sorry, wrong cult.

[@jessegro4]

ShotgunLlama L. Ron Hubbard was a BLACK MAN!!!!!!

[@Jay-rc5ix]

I'm exhausted but you know what imma still watch because I love your videos and I can relate to them so it's totally worth it

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

thanks. i hope it was worth the watch

[@kayethebiromanticnon-binar9187]

I’m asexual and an exmormon so I never had the issue of being abstinent but that being said I am still expected to have sex and give birth to baby’s when I am married. I am a perfect example of abstinence and they feel like I am broken.

[@dr.nosborn6330]

I remember when I was in highschool,my friend was a mormon and I was a JW, we know for years, and she had a boyfriend for another grade,I respected that and say to her in the ways of the questins young people ask,practical answers about the diferences about love,and other things,she agrees with all of that.Is amazing how similar was between two very diferent cults how work .(Sorry if my english is not so good)

[@o0Avalon0o]

1:19 i'm not normally into cute things, but that's the most adorable baby I've ever seen.

[@MrNazir10]

It's 2 am but what can I do

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

nothing to do but watch the video i suppose :s

[@MrNazir10]

Telltale Atheist too late, I already did 😊

[@declankerekere5999]

As a Mormon who had this convo it's like they want you to be friendzoned. Pick your poison what they preach or your freedom I choose freedom

[@rainbowgang5594]

No Passionate kissing. But casual kissing is just fine. No lying on top of each other? What if there are no blankets around? No touching the privates of another person? Sorry, no help for you, young children, who can barely talk, where parents may need to. Or for anyone getting a physical checkup. Don't allow others to do that to you? What if I have a genital infection that doctors have to physically operate on? And yeah, many people, would be fine passionately kissing and lying on top of each other when their parents are around. Also every time he drew the woman she looked like a psychopath who was gonna tie down, torture, and kill her husband.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

ya i noticed that too. weird as shit how they depicted the female right

[@catsmom129]

3:32 “powerful emotions that MUST be expressed” kinda smacks of the old “men can’t control their urges.” Weird how sexual repression and sexual abuse often go hand in hand.

[@badtzmarub3772]

It's always the things that are enjoyed that religion hates. :'/

[@karenblan4505]

It's even worse if your an LGBT kid trapped in the church. My parents make me go to church every Sunday, and I have to sit though 3 hours of them telling me that I can only be happy if I marry a man, (I'm a lesbian), and if I get sealed in the temple. It's awful.

[@jessegro4]

emo bandito I already feel like crap sometimes when they tell me a need to marry someone of the opposite sex simply because I suck at getting people to like me.....so I couldn’t imagine how it feels to be a member of the LGBT community

[@marclikesmoths]

Me: Ooh I like those drawings Telltale: Your drawings SUCK! Me: I HATE THOSE DRAWINGS

[@darksidecola4529]

Sex is shamed in cults because it gives them control. If they can make you feel guilty and unclean about a common desire, then they can convince you to come and be cleansed of it.

[@kalynmarcus6307]

I'm LDS (mormon) and have watched this in church. I suppose that since I'm asexual and have no interest in others it just went right over my head, I never thought more about it. I'm currently 17 and still haven't made it to "first base" because I'm just not interested. But, yes, I do believe everything that the video brought up. however with the last bit of the video, quite a bit is incorrect. we believe in living prophets, yes, but our prophets don't contradict one another. We believe in following the laws instated and due to previous laws, we no longer practice polygamy. I don't believe everything in my church, after all I'm studying to be a bio engineer, but my viewpoint on religion is hey if it's true great, if it doesn't end up being true meh why should I care.

[@cursedwithsetience4017]

Kalyn Marcus I've just found another sane Mormon. My faith in the members is restored. My deepest gratitude.

[@kalynmarcus6307]

Fantasmagoric ZiZi no problem mate

[@smw45smw92]

Normal mormons are everywhere, but damn are the sheltered ones so weird

[@Nigarj]

The church still believes in spiritual polygamy. Men can get sealed to multiple woman within the temple. Do research on your own religion.

[@TheRachaelLefler]

Would your family still love you if you stopped being a Mormon?

[@darthfader733]

This video makes my "Sacred Parts" tingle, Thanks

[@Okamare]

god i remember this fucking video, start of my "fall from grace" as my mom put it

[@nikstockwell611]

Okamare Well, congrats. If your mom has a problem with your questioning beliefs you were raised with, too bad. I personally find it awesome when people “fall from grace” though. It means they're all the more open to questioning other aspects of life as well if they fall far enough. ;)

[@trannyplanet]

to what you said about abstinence only sex ed, in mississippi, where i live, we have that and we have the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country as well as no abortion clinics within state because of laws put in place to shut them down

[@smallredboy9138]

I mean it's 2:44 here but who cares lmao

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

lol... sorry guys. i just worked on this vid for 5 1/2 hours and i wanted to get it released asap. ill try to release earlier in the evening next time

[@halfapersonalityaquarterof9871]

Telltale Atheist how late until after an upload do I have to comment before you stop responding

[@smallredboy9138]

Telltale Atheist Don't worry, i'm from Argentina and I asume you're American, the timing must be pretty difficult

[@everyman1983]

Dude when you said you don't talk to your parents I laughed out loud. Love your video. Can't believe I shared these videos on my mission

[@mxar2074]

I believe that the Lord God created the universe I believe that he sent his only son to die for my sins And I believe that ancient Jews built boats and sailed to America I am a Mormon! And a Mormon just believes I just felt like this was an appropriate place to comment this

[@cursedwithsetience4017]

mana_narie x A Mormon doesn't just believe. We act in faith. Even if religion is an elaborate hoax, I will have spent my days serving others and pursuing being an educated and compassionate person. I can stand by any region that so actively encourages that in their doctrines. Any way, hello from good old Utah!

[@summahthevegan3796]

I really like the funny somewhat sarcastic way that you shut these people down. I think that it's awesome what you do.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

thanks i appreciate it

[@armadilloalien854]

No kissing •-•

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

i know. its horrific right

[@armadilloalien854]

Telltale Atheist Also sounds like a very unhealthy practice. *edit 0_0 omg typos everywhere lol* (fixed that)

[@8unnylover]

I'm sorry, but I REALLY want to know what this intro song is... I've heard it all over the place and it's really cool. Anyone know??

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

ether by silent partner

[@hakianabenioni9666]

Umm everyone's talking about sex Ed but what does that have to do with their religious beliefs? And what's wrong with the name heavenly father? They call him that because they recognise him as the father of our spirits and because they belive that we all share a spiritual father that makes us all brothers and sisters. It's much better than imagining him as a cruel deity like other Christian faiths would have you believe. You will never see a Mormon band screaming god hates gays. Another thing that you have to remember is that this video is aimed at teens. They are too young for sexual intercourse and serious relationships anyway. Like have you seen the drama that comes from relationships? Grown men commit suicide because their girlfriends broke up with them. I'm not hating on anybody I'm just saying this world is already filled with so much hate because there are so many one sided people. Before you judge try to understand and if you can't understand don't judge

[@mavioli3303]

it's just super creepy to some of us just saying

[@kiera6326]

Mormons don't teach sex education. That's the problem. They preach abstinence, and that's it. The only sort of information they give, is that the male sacred part, and female scared part 'conjoins' and creates a baby from within the female- and that's when they're seventeen... My mom's a doctor. One time, a young Mormon couple came in to see her, saying that they were having trouble making a baby. After running some tests, my mom found that they were both perfectly fertile and shouldn't be having any trouble. She asked some questions, and later found out that the guy was putting it in the girl, but wasn't moving, and neither had reached climax before. They legit did not think that they had to do that for her to get pregnant... As for the 'father' thing, well, I'll admit, it's just a little creepy...

[@anthonyrodriguez5053]

Well, I mean, how well could abstinence education reasonably be expected to work in this country? You got your elderly, "lame" biology teacher pushing abstinence but you turn on the TV and these hip teens are boning each other left and right. Because humans are humans, most teens would consider the latter to be the more credible authority on the matter.