Leaving LDS Prepper-ism - Kim and Josh Coffin Pt. 3 | Ep. 1830

Kim and Josh Coffin's candid discussion with John Dehlin delves into their journey of faith transition within the Mormon Church, exploring the challenges and triumphs of rebuilding their identities and relationships post-departure. Kim's exploration of her LGBTQIA identity, Josh's shift in parenting roles, and their mutual reframing of mental health and gender dynamics are emphasized. The interview highlights their shared experiences of loss, disassociation, and the transformation of their personal and communal beliefs. The Coffins' unwavering commitment to rediscovering authenticity and embracing personal growth serves as an inspiring narrative for those navigating the complexities of faith and identity within and beyond religious communities.
Kim & Josh's channel: ‪@SweetRedPoppy‬
Episode Show Notes: www.mormonstor...
Chapters
00:01:04 Tom Harrison wrote Visions of Glory, he is a therapist in Utah
00:03:44 Josh and Kim were different believers, Josh loved the community, Kim was true believing and dedicated to the doctrine
00:05:50 Reading the Gospel Topics Essays
00:10:40 She wasn’t looking for a way out of Mormonism, she wanted to defend it
00:16:50 What you lose when you leave the church
00:19:25 Kim started up her business
00:22:30 The rebuilding held the most joy for them
00:26:10 Loss of identity in a faith transition
00:28:00 Loss of security
00:31:55 Kim was able to come out on the LGBTQIA spectrum
00:36:10 Loss of Community
00:41:13 Change in how they approached parenting
00:48:30 How they handled grief and loss
00:52:56 Rebuilding with mental health
00:53:27 Postpartum after childbirth
00:56:10 OCD/Scrupulosity - Intrusive thoughts, baby getting hurt
01:08:50 How their identities have changed
01:10:30 The world their kids will grow up in
01:18:35 Rebuilding community
01:23:35 Rebuilding with parenting
01:31:45 What they feel the most proud about
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[@3dbabe299]

One more thing…. the husband is an amazing man. He’s just so kind & self aware. it’s so cool to see this couple THRIVE❤

[@joshcoffinator]

Thank you!!!

[@TheSaintelias]

So true. He is very self aware of his wife and kids. Great couple.

[@JonLeavitt]

Same thought! Only a couple minutes into the episode and that was my main takeaway!

[@nuloo]

This couple is full of so much love, wisdom, integrity, and intelligence. Watching parts 1-3 of their story has been such a gift!

[@joshcoffinator]

Thank you!!

[@madeleinesutherland1623]

Agreeeeeed!

[@carolboettcher7654]

I’m a Christian who just loves watching and listening to you. You do excellent and very respectful work. Thank you!!

[@lizkrafft4343]

Agreed 💯% !! 🙏🏻

[@drvondakaye]

The descriptions given about OCD are probably the best narratives for what OCD is that I have ever heard/read. I’ve studied psychology for over 30 years. I have personally been helped. The emotional dialogue coupled with the realtime processing is invaluable.

[@joshcoffinator]

Thank you!!

[@christina-clairegeorges3661]

This is so true.

[@SweetRedPoppy]

Thank you for this kind comment! It means a lot to me. I've done a lot of work to better understand my OCD as we've left the church and I'm grateful for the chance to share about my experience!

[@phoenixflamefeather]

I am neurodivergent (multiple-diagnosis as an adult) and I've never heard OCD explained this way, and I relate so much. I've had periods where my mental health was less balanced than it is now, and I fully believe after watching this that my anxiety showed up as OCD. There were times where I couldn't sleep because I was sure I would hurt myself or others while sleep walking - even though I wasn't a sleep walker.

[@drvondakaye]

@@phoenixflamefeather Thank you. That was so helpful.

[@justamom863]

I love it when Margie takes over the interview. Her questions are so personal and help bring out the nitty gritty details.

[@kelellisa]

Josh is so self-aware…such a great couple

[@joshcoffinator]

Awe, thanks! I credit that mostly to my wife and my incredible therapist!

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

I wish most men were this self aware!

[@DuchessChau]

I always thought it was weird when one person in a couple talks for the other one. But when i watch these two wonderful people do it....IDK it feels like they just have a great understanding of each other, beyond religious ideologies. So when one cannot voice a feeling or remember a moment, the other is there to pick it up.

[@joshcoffinator]

Appreciate this comment!!

[@moorlilly]

Kim and Josh love for each other brought me to tears! The pain expression on their faces was very, very touching and moving! As an etheist,who lives in Europe, it's kind of hard to fathom that such thing are happening in people's lives! Have been a lurker for a while now, and as an honor to Kim and Josh, together with my admiration to your podcast, I am going to subscribe!

[@joshcoffinator]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@LucyBarley]

I have fallen in love with this beautiful vulnerable and real couple. Such a great (3 part) interview. Thank you for introducing us to two such insightful kind thoughtful humans. Thank you as always Mormon Stories, I learn so much every time

[@joshcoffinator]

Thank you!!

[@MissAmanda616]

I was completely engulfed in this couples story & came here to continue listening to part 3 right away, as if the first 5hrs wasn’t enough! Haha. So I’ll be back tomorrow for the ending of this portion of their story! 💜💜 Thank you for creating such a wonderful safe environment where people feel accepted & supported by you & your community. I’m sure these are incredibly difficult conversations to have, but I’m willing to bet that once they tell their story & the conversation comes to an end, they are able to walk through life feeling lighter. Providing a space where your guests feel comfortable enough to share their experiences, almost all that are riddled with trauma & years of shame is invaluable!

[@joshcoffinator]

Thank you for your kind words! ❤️ 🥹

[@joshcoffinator]

Starting to feel lighter thanks to comments like this! ❤

[@natashavandekamp145]

Same here. I have literally been waiting for the next episode to be out. I wish I could be friends with them but I’m way over in Iowa. ❤️ sending all the positive vibes to your family!

[@MissAmanda616]

@@joshcoffinator​​⁠I hope you both are able to continue to build your own lives with your own families raising your own children in a really kind, patient, beautiful way! Your children are so lucky to have parents so informed on the best practices for marriage & families. Also, Josh the way you talked about being a girl dad made my heart feel full & my eyes well up! You seem to be such a strong yet calming presence in your home. You 2 seem to make a wonderful team, which is the best thing any couple, family can even hope for. Your girls will grow up feeling safe to talk to you both, safe to ask questions and safe to be part of your family unit. It’s so beautiful to see how you root for eachother & how your relationship has grown so much & so deeply in a relatively short period of time in the grand scheme of things. I’m a new subscriber to Kim’s channel & I look forward to watching you both grow & bloom!! Thank you for digging deep & choosing to be brave to share your story. I’m certain it will find many many people who need it, when they are ready to look for more info.

[@JessicaNebeker]

Margie, you are such a wonderful interviewer! Thank you.

[@BG-ig6fd]

I always love when Margi is present.

[@mkm1225]

Hey John, I wanted to say I just joined your channel. I'm not Mormon but am a sexual abuse survivor. I have experienced the lifelong damage this abuse caused and learn so much from listening to your podcast. Several years ago I finally found a very good therapist and feel like she saved my life. Although I didn't benefit from therapy until late in life, I am so very grateful to have found a great therapist. Better late than never. It has helped me understand 'me' and why I am the way I am. Your podcast is undoubtedly helping thousands - thank you!

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

❤️❤️❤️

[@christina-clairegeorges3661]

I really hope many people hear Kim's story about the power of intrusive thoughts. I have been debilitated by them at various points and continue to manage this. It is so important to reach out the way Kim did, as she so rightly deserved and was able to see the strength in finding help.

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@MsFuzzyBuddy]

Great series. Josh and Kim seem like such a sweet couple. Thanks Margie and John for being such empathetic, compassionate interviewers.

[@MamaVee50]

I find the hardest part of most religions is if things go right in your life, it’s God’s gift to you and if they go wrong, it’s all your fault. You never get credit for the win, and always get the blame for the loss. True in Mormon, Catholic, even Scientology. No wonder you are left with no confidence in yourself. You are winners and survivors. So much credit to you both!

[@jayylad38]

josh is one of the kindest one of the most empathetic people i have ever listened to. i have NEVER heard someone go from "i'd never been taught about mental health" to "institutions actively work against the mentally ill". josh, thank you for everything you've done for kim and for your sibling - as well as for yourself.

[@chelsidavis455]

Three parts and time still flew by and left me wanting more. Easily one of my favorite interview series I’ve listen to on your platform. Kim and Josh are so articulate and genuine. Thank you for showing up and sharing. Margi holds so much space and is so empathic, and thank goodness for John and his willingness to create the space for it all to happen. Well worth the listen❤

[@SweetRedPoppy]

Thank you, Chelsi! We are very grateful to John and Margi for creating a safe and welcoming platform for us to share our story.

[@judycheng766]

Hey there, it’s Jude a never Mormon here! I absolutely adore your show. Kim and Josh are an inspiration for all. Thank you much.

[@firebird189]

Oh my goodness. Long time viewer but never a premier. I think we have all fallen in love with this couple!

[@joshcoffinator]

Oh thank you so much! Means a lot!

[@GarterGa1956]

I came here via Sweet Red Poppy, which I found around the start of Covid. I have seen in a few years increased happiness show in Kim's face and presentation. It is nice to get to meet Mr Poppy and see his personality and love for his wife and family. Pure joy to see and experience, now living their own lives, bravo :).

[@SweetRedPoppy]

What a sweet thing to say! You're right about that! I've really found my voice over the past few years and feel so much more happiness now!

[@mabelquintanilla8168]

Looking forward to watching this episode! Kim and Josh are simply a lovely couple who deserve the best.

[@susiekathryn8570]

I love this concept of deconstruction, reconstruction and rebuilding…we are doing that now.❤

[@Agadora]

I've just binged these 3 episodes ones after the other. Following this couple's struggles & growth over these hours was profoundly moving. I just feel so much love and admiration for them. ❤️ Thank you.

[@maegannorris]

I am so deeply touched by this couple and their story. When I was in my 20s and had two kids, we were extremely involved in our church. I didn't get help for my anxiety, depression, & panic attacks that entire decade because of my beliefs around medication and mental health treatment. Even medication the doctors had me on for blood pressure during my second pregnancy, the pastor and ladies at my church would make negative comments about. (I worked there at the time). 5 years in therapy and treatment later, my husband and myself are still trying to reconcile what religion took from us as individuals, as a couple and as a family. Thank you for sharing your story ❤

[@malindagunderson]

Such a great series of episodes! Thank you! AND, subscribed to SweetRedPoppy! Can’t wait to explore your channel!

[@lynnwalton814]

This couple is so young but so wise

[@michelleanderson8663]

What I love most about Mormon stories and the guests who share their stories, is the awakening that seems to take place in their lives. It’s amazing what happens on the other side of living thru hard experiences. We are ever evolving creatures, and to hear of others evolutions of growth is always such a positive thing. Even when the stories are hard, and often times heart wrenching. Thank you so much to the Coffins For sharing their story, and of could thank you Mormon stories for all of the work you do!!!

[@joshcoffinator]

Love this so much!! ❤

[@kristinb4535]

I agree with this!

[@Truthfromthemiddle]

The two of you are so inspiring. I hope many follow in your footsteps.

[@3dbabe299]

I can hardly handle the religious abuse this couple has suffered. Threats of demons and evil -satan as a means of control helps me know I grew up free. I love this woman’s voice even tho it’s in despair. She’s absolutely come thru the other side and THAT warms my ❤heart

[@Ari-zo7ve]

Kim’s postpartum story made me cry. There’s so much stigma and postpartum psychosis is so terrifying and lonely ❤

[@SweetRedPoppy]

It really is terrifying! And while I never had a formal diagnosis of postpartum psychosis (probably because I withheld my actual thoughts with my psychiatrist), I definitely relate to that diagnosis. It's absolutely terrifying what it can do to your mind. That coupled with a high-demand religion that expects perfection, is incredibly isolating.

[@veronicahaymond8444]

The Coffins are a power couple. It is awesome to watch your relationship interaction. Great examples!

[@PattyMclean-i3o]

I've listened/watched several Morman Stsories videos. I'm so impressed with the courage of the people making this transition from such a high control religion to living guided by love. This couple are so beautiful.

[@retiredrn4356]

Both Kim and Josh are kind and sweet at their core. The love they have for each other is something very special. It’s a testament to their strength that they were able to come out of the terrible treatment they endured in the name of this religion. Cruelty is not something Jesus promoted. 💜

[@indicatmusic]

These two are are so beautiful. They emanate unconditional love and kindness. I'm incredibly grateful I was able to hear so much of their stories. The amount of people they will reach with their combination of wisdom and compassion is just limitless.

[@realmms]

Your craft channel was so helpful during the lockdowns, I am so happy you are thriving !

[@joshcoffinator]

Thanks for supporting us!

[@justamom863]

It is so obvious y'all have done the hard work on yourselves as individuals and as a couple. As a 20 year post mormon, it took me a long time to realize how badly I needed to deconstruct my mormon past. Therapy gave me the tools that my mormon upbringing never could.

[@username.not.known2473]

I'm so glad these two have each other.

[@jessicarae28]

Kim, thank you for your vulnerable recount of your experience with post-partum depression! I resonated with SO much of your story. Grateful to hear you were brave enough that get the help you needed! I know so many women will be encouraged that they aren’t alone in this experience.

[@eojuka]

Kim and Josh - thank you for your story. It’s beautiful to see the respect and gentleness you show towards each other. Your crafting channel is so so good!

[@joshcoffinator]

❤❤❤

[@kimschofield911]

My father grew up in a strict mormon family, but my mother didn't. Each had trauma. I grew up in Utah, and there were not many families that weren't mormon, so it was very confusing. All of my friends came from strict mormon families, but I wasn't raised in the same environment. I obviously was baptized at 8 because that is what every 8 year old did, but at the same time, the baptism and confirmation felt shameful because my father wasn't the person to baptize and confirm. I wanted to fit in with friends so I tried as a youth to attend church, primary then young women's. The things I learned at church told me my family wouldn't be together in heaven, but it didn't make any sense because I was doing what I was taught, I was fulfilling all of my callings but because things outside of my control, even though I was trying to be faithful and good, my parents did not go to church and were not sealed...I was not good enough to be able to be with my family in heaven. Then my father died. I was sad and angry. Now, 50 plus years later, I'm coming to terms with all of the contradictions. I am such an inclusive person, and the church and it's members are very much exclusive. If you do not embody all of it, there is no room for you. I choose to always have room and a plate for everyone at my table. I will never fit into that box, and that's okay with me.

[@pauloguerra1599]

This couple REALLY grow as human beings .. my GRATITUDE, from Lisbon PORTUGAL 🙏

[@patsycovino5222]

Beautiful enlightened couple..we need more

[@JayPee575]

I want to give Kim a big hug. She is so strong and sweet at the same time. It’s very powerful. I don’t think she realizes her amazing presence.

[@joshcoffinator]

Constantly trying to remind her of her powerful presence! I’m going to keep asking her to start a podcast with me 😂 ❤

[@kkaemper]

@@joshcoffinatorBrilliant idea: My situation is completely different, but I still learned so much from these interviews 🙏

[@debbiedonovan8362]

This is another 'great' to Mormon Stories Podcast, thank you for this story!

[@IndySpirit]

Best wishes to Josh and Kim. Thank you for sharing your story!

[@heatherhammersmith8997]

I absolutely LOVE how Josh seemed to always question the patriarchy. It's truly remarkable that he was able to so clearly see it for what it was while personally immersed in it! Same for Kim being able to recognize living in whiteness and willingness to examine it when BLM was so vocal - it says a lot about them. A beautiful couple and I'm certain their chilren are growing into lovely people as well. It does my heart a lot of good to see people like Kim and Josh in this world, a world that really needs them in it.

[@carliemccracken5089]

Thank you Kim and Josh for your openness and vulnerability. Although mental health is something I’ve been working in for some time, I’m learning a lot about it from you and I’m feeling so grateful for your honesty and willingness to talk about these topics. I’m so impressed by your self-awareness and the language you have around psychology that I’m finding myself wanting more of that for myself and my family. You are both beautiful examples of integrity and courage and I’m so grateful for this conversation. And Margie - what you bring to these conversations is SO beautiful and impactful and emotionally intelligent. Thank you, for coming on the show. All the hosts are great, but you are my favourite ❤

[@LittleOrla]

Love and prayers to these two strong and beautiful people. ❤🙏

[@indicatmusic]

Yo John - just reached the end of the interview. This dynamic between you four was so endearing. Your authenticity really was apparent here and it was a nice to see to this degree. This interview was mind blowing and I felt the whole thing. Also I love everything you bring to the table Margi, I just want to hug you.

[@mormonstories]

❤️🙏

[@JackieCooligan-ci7wm]

These two young people are so honest and reaffirming if the best of humanity. Amazing interview. TY

[@Ambimom]

You two seem like lovely people. I am sooo sorry you endured such sadness. Your children are lucky to have you as parents.

[@nadjajohansson8569]

It's a beautiful and moving thing to watch people starting to think for themselves. Especially when the real world stakes are so big. The cherry on top is for a couple to stand together through all that.

[@sweingold5686]

I watched all 3 parts in 2 days. Such an amazing journey they went on together. I loved hearing about them rebuilding their lives with joy and authenticity. They were both so vulnerable and thoughtful. Thank you all so much.

[@DeanneSanchez-q8u]

Thanks for sharing Bless your hearts I came out 5 years ago It is so hard and I felt so alone at times . Thank you John and Margie for all you do so we know that we are not alone and that all of have a story to tell . I have a very unique strory I was a Temple Custodian here in Manti for 5 1/2 years That was the beginning of my deconstruction journey . Have a Beautiful , wonderful blessed day ♥️ I wish you both the very , very best ♥️

[@musicgirl125]

This interview series might have been my favorite Mormon Stories ever. Wow. All 4 of you are amazing. I started watching thinking that this was all going to be about prepping, but it ended up being a really touching and inspiring story I could relate to. I’m not crying, you are!! 😭

[@joshcoffinator]

Ahhhh that’s so kind! Thank you!

[@gaylasparks]

This is so good. I understand that I am not experiencing this alone. I’m 5th generation and the 1st of 12 children. I put 6th, 7 th generations into the church. I have continued to believe and have a relationship with my Heavenly Father. I really have deep generational beliefs that I’ve tried to undo. I have lost the position in my original family, and my7 children and 22 grandchildren. I only have God. I’m married over 30 years to a non Mormon, but a believer. …so for the first time since my deconstruction I have looked at my marriage as real! All this time, thinking that since it wasn’t a temple marriage, it doesn’t count.

[@mefford67]

The authenticity and courage of this couple is truly impressive. ❤️

[@ackrackpack]

Thank you to Kim and Josh for talking so openly about their experiences with mental health, being able to surpass the shame they learned early in life around talking about such topics or seeking professional mental health help. I hope they are an inspiration to others struggling with the same types of issues. There are valuable descriptions of OCD, panic attacks, postpartum depression, scrupulosity, and coming together as a couple and parental team to build up themselves and their family.

[@hollih4839]

Most impactful story I've listened to so far. Just starting my journey and just started listening. These 2 are amazing.

[@NancyPurkelly]

I was "introduced" to the both of you when I first became aware of Sweet Red Poppy during the lockdown in 2020. I thought you were both great then, for sure. However, my admiration has grown exponentially since watching these 3 episodes. Your honesty, courage, transparency, love for your family and each other, eloquence, and strength are to be admired by all. Congratulations!!

[@danielle7397]

I didn't think this set would be interesting and I am so glad I watched all 3. My heart fills with joy for this lovely couple and little family. The possibilities are indeed endless for them.

[@jamieferreira4928]

I have followed Kim’s facebook page and KZbin for years. At the end of part 2 I realized why she looked familiar! I am so glad they decided to share their story. ❤

[@SweetRedPoppy]

Thank you, Jamie!! ❤

[@dominique___1980]

What a lovely series. Thanks to all of you!!!!

[@kendrazoa958]

such intelligent, insightful, courageous, kind people. deep gratitude for sharing your journey.

[@Mama_T_448]

AMAZING! What a wonderful podcast!These two are truly inspirational. Welcome back to the Church of Human Beings ❤ We are your tribe! We are lucky to have you ❤

[@catht9653]

This couple is amazing. I wish I could find a guy like him!

[@ValBarber-by1sd]

What a sweet couple. Josh is a wonderful husband who is so caring and so there for her. I’m so glad she came around to share with her husband. It’s beautiful to see the love between them. Blessings on them and their family.

[@LKY1357]

SG, ex-mo, and LGBTQ here, so you all are not alone and I really appreciate you sharing your story so beautifully. ❤

[@jodiebostrom5675]

Omg. Intrusive thoughts are valid. I appreciate her honesty. As mothers, we are vulnerable to the neglect of our ‘perfect’ societal norms.

[@Madly98]

These interviews spoke so strongly to me, thank you for sharing 💙

[@ExmoRaymo]

Agreed. Thank you john and margie for all you do to help people.

[@meli_mellll995]

This couple is absolutely amazing I’m in tears

[@labgirly3642]

Thank you both for you vulnerability and openness. It help to know that we are not the only ones to struggle with things in life.

[@angelaarnett3333]

I have so much love for them both. Serious couple goals. I’m so struck how they’ve found the unconditional love and support in eachother that a church is supposed to provide. I’m so grateful they have eachother and so grateful their kids have them as parents.

[@lisakavanaugh6989]

Hi Kim! Subscriber here! Thank you for sharing this with us! Such strength you both have shown. You’ve both been through so much, thank you so much for sharing! I just don’t have the words right now, it’s an incredible experience and your new journey is just beginning!

[@fullamhoneyfiber]

This was an AMAZING share, thank you to everyone for taking the time. So relatable as a BYUI Alumni and Millennial parent whose left the church

[@elisabethrettenwender8650]

These two are inspiring and wondefful, thank you for these interviews. Great perspectives.

[@emilyfoster6487]

I'm a girl on the spectrum who also suffered with purely obsessional OCD for many years. Although my intrusive thoughts were not of a religious nature (my family is not at all religious) I related SO much to your story. It's been years since I've had those thoughts and I consider them mostly behind me. There is hope and good mental health is possible. I'm so glad that neurodivergence is being more openly talked about as it helped me finally realize that there was nothing "wrong" with me, just that my mind was made differently. I love seeing a successful and well spoken woman on the spectrum around my age.

[@Suzyslly]

You both are so inspirational. Just want to let you know that if I were your parent, I would be beaming with pride!

[@joshcoffinator]

Awe, thank you!!

[@marlenemeyer9841]

Although their faith transition was difficult for them at a young age, they are lucky that they can raise their children in a much healthier way. I have many regrets for ways I parented but all I can do is apologize for mistakes, forgive myself and do better now that I know better. I love this quote: “No amount of regret changes the past. No amount of anxiety changes the future. But any amount of Gratitude changes the present.” I’m grateful I have a chance to live an new authentic life outside of the church.

[@joshcoffinator]

Love this! Thank you!❤

[@andreapaul2818]

Qqqqqqqqqqq

[@mefford67]

Thank you for posting that quotation.

[@lizahernandez950]

I watched all 3 episodes. I saw the thumbnail for the first episode and recognized her right away. I sometimes watch her youtube channel for crafting inspiration. I had no idea about all she had gone through. I have family members who deal with OCD so my heart goes out to her. Having had my own faith deconstruction, I could relate to much of their story. Their kindness towards each other was so heartwarming to watch. I wish them nothing but the best for their future.

[@SweetRedPoppy]

Thank you for watching and for the sweet comment, Liza! ❤

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

Loved this interview. Thank you to all!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@SimplyLore]

Thanks to Kim and Josh for this inspiring interview. I wish them all the best for the future. Thanks John for giving them a voice 🫶

[@julieprince5538]

I love Kim and Josh ♥️ Thank you both so much for you vulnerability and authenticity! You are changing life’s by sharing your story and experience! I wish you and your family the very best ❤

[@ChubbyUnicorn]

Thank you SO VERY MUCH, Josh & Kim! I listened to all 3 shows back to back to back and am very inspired.

[@adelaidesocki]

You are both such remarkable people.

[@jayylad38]

kim i really needed to hear your transparency during 57:00. oh my god i started crying. my psychiatrist refuses to give me an OCD diagnosis despite my violent, often sexually repulsive intrusive thoughts. thank you. i'm so sorry. thank you. i'm so sorry.

[@1hourdryfloors786]

Where did this man come from and can we please have more like him?

[@MxTeal]

You two did the healing I wish my parents could have done. Maybe then I could have a relationship with them. Thank you for sharing this story ♡ I was very moved. This couple is so courageous because of their vulnerability. It's beautiful ♡

[@juliemendelsohn3306]

What an amazing and inspiring couple! The honesty about their journey through life was incredibly brave and so courageous. Thank you all for bringing Josh and Kim to us.

[@walkinthepark-withcoffee]

As an ex-Catholic I can relate to many things this couple has shared. You both are tremendous for sharing your most insightful and inspirational stories. Much thanks to your therapists for bringing out your inner light to share with all of us and pouring such healthy inspiration into the world😊❤

[@jillcarlson2076]

Wow! Josh and Km should be so very proud of themselves! Prayers, love and hugs for them and their beautiful family! Their children are so fortunate to have such wonderfully rounded parents!! 💞👍🏻👍🏻🥰💕

[@bookchick]

Thank you for sharing your beautiful story, your courage, your vulnerability, your truth, and your growth.

[@aubreyforsyth873]

It's been amazing and healing to hear Kim & Josh’s story. Kim’s story really resonated with me. Much love and continued healing to you both.

[@maryskaggs3208]

So much empathy for these wonderful & brave people. Especially the post partum OCD & dissociation. I was southern baptist, and it really hurt to feel you’re just a bad mom & if you prayed enough, it would go away. That’s how I wound up being super productive and not remembering how. Please accept this huge hug. ❤

[@sarkahalastova9667]

Josh and Kim, thank you for sharing your story. I am not LDS but so many things you went through are universally relatable. So many women suffer with postpartum depression in silence, lacking support from their loved ones. You have overcome so much in your relationship. And after being raised in high demand religion, you found more tolerance, compassion and honesty in yourself than many people do. I admire your strive to be better, emphatic people. Good luck to you.

[@jodiebostrom5675]

Josh is a wonderful man - a wonderful husband. Thank you for standing by your wife AND your children!

[@MisterBrewer]

I am so impressed with these two beautiful people. This is another trio of interviews that really meant a lot to me and made me reflect a lot on parts of my journey. So healing. Thank you!

[@hildagreen7143]

Josh for President! You are both so intelligent, wise and all round amazing people. I loved all the episodes, thank you for what you taught me. Much love to you both 💜

[@jennapruner7989]

Kim you are so strong and brave for seeking help and figuring out what you were/are dealing with in having OCD. OCD is torture and unfortunately the dogma and shame and cultural beliefs that are so powerful in Mormonism create an unsafe space for those who have OCD. Thank you for so vulnerably and clearly expressing how that is true. I just want you to know this is not something that only exists for Utah mormons but for mormons (and quite honestly most faith communities) everywhere. Please take care after this interview. You did something important in fighting stigma today ❤️