How to do two (or more) integrals with just one

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Morphocular

Morphocular

Күн бұрын

Is there a way to turn multiple, repeated integrals into just a single integral? Meaning, if you, say, wanted to find the second antiderivative of 6x, is there a way to compute it all in one step just using a single integral? Turns out there is! In fact, any number of repeated antiderivatives can be compressed into just a single integral expression. How is that possible? And what does that single integral expression look like?
My old video about Double Integrals: • How to Set Up Double I...
The sequel to this video about fractional calculus: • What Lies Between a Fu...
A really nice video that derives the gamma function from scratch:
• How to Take the Factor...
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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Why Compress Integrals?
2:29 - Analyzing the Problem
3:46 - Visualizing a 2-Fold Integral
5:25 - Deriving the Formula
10:56 - Testing the Formula
12:14 - How Is This Not Impossible?
13:49 - Higher-Order Integrals
15:22 - Application to Numerical Integrals
16:25 - The Gamma Function
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For more on applying Cauchy's Formula to numerical integration, see this paper:
Tvrdá, Katarína & Minárová, Mária. (2018). "Computation of Definite Integral Over Repeated Integral." Tatra Mountains Mathematical Publications. 72. 141-154. 10.2478/tmmp-2018-0026.
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
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@morphocular
@morphocular Жыл бұрын
The sequel is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJXagoiLedlof9U
@CppExpedition
@CppExpedition Жыл бұрын
your integration is limited by 1 variable x. In control theory we have a more generalize way to do any integration in 1 step. The trick is to integrate a vector. for example dx^2 (int int aceleration) can be seen as x1=x(position), x2=(x1)dot (velocity) so int [x1dot, x2dot] is 1 integral, but internally you are doing a second one over x. if you want an n degree integral, you would need to integrate an n dimensional vector.
Ай бұрын
Yes
@jakobr_
@jakobr_ 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible! Calculus classes often teach a limited view of integrals, only thinking of them as antiderivatives. But now I realize the implications of just how specific the fundamental theorem of calculus is written: Only integrals that fit that pattern are antiderivatives, and there are way more than just those integrals out there!
@dexter2392
@dexter2392 Жыл бұрын
Yes. An integral is a pretty general tool, representing much more than areas under a graph. And that's cool!
@Xnoob545
@Xnoob545 Жыл бұрын
@@dexter2392 wait so what the hell is an integral
@randomguy2169
@randomguy2169 Жыл бұрын
@@Xnoob545 idk if its right to say nuch more than areas under the curve, but integrals are used for more things than just that. Integrals can act as sums, integrals can be used to represent functions, there are integral transforms, there is line integral and flux integral and both do not represent area under curve. but Integral more generally, is just a sum or continuous sum.
@kienthanhle6230
@kienthanhle6230 Жыл бұрын
@@randomguy2169 yeah, area under curves is just a visual representation of integrals, albeit a very intuitive one for beginner at that
@cparks1000000
@cparks1000000 Жыл бұрын
@@randomguy2169 To get technical, the integral is a linear-transformation of a continuous function. Even more is true: if you allow integrals with respect to measures, you get all possible linear-transformations of continuous functions.
@classicalmusic1337
@classicalmusic1337 2 жыл бұрын
The animation quality is incredible. For example the transition from a 2D to 3D view at 6:34. So smooth!
@pa.l.2499
@pa.l.2499 Жыл бұрын
Love the snake integral beasts vs derivative peons. Classic visuals not blatantly copying 3blue one brown and staying original.
@AC-ik2qq
@AC-ik2qq Жыл бұрын
And at 7:40 - 7:57 8:25 9:45 Pretty nice visuals
@xl000
@xl000 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing incredible about any of this. This is just made in 3D from the start, she's just changing the camera orientation.
@GetPsyched6
@GetPsyched6 Жыл бұрын
@@xl000 he made this animation library by himself. So there's the impressive bit
@xl000
@xl000 Жыл бұрын
@@GetPsyched6 what programming languages do you know ?
@AWellRestedDog
@AWellRestedDog Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely incredible. The intriguing and seemingly nonsensical question at the beginning (especially from the perspective of someone who only knows basic calculus), the pacing and 3d animation to visualize the intuition behind taking a double integral, and the teaser for the idea of in-between integrals/derivatives. This was mind-blowing to watch and appreciate, both from the perspective of a learner and an aspiring teacher.
@drewduncan5774
@drewduncan5774 Жыл бұрын
1:40 Numerically, derivatives are notoriously difficult because computing them involves subtractive cancellation. Integration is much more well-behaved from a numerical standpoint precisely because it only requires summation.
@zanekaminski
@zanekaminski Жыл бұрын
Very funny.
@creepervideo1106
@creepervideo1106 Жыл бұрын
@@zanekaminski this is actually true as you can’t truly animate the 8th derivative of y = (1/x)(sin(x+p)) where p is a value/slider, I tried it on my machine (16 gigs RAM, R3050, RY7) and it only animates 2-3 frames per second, I tried this in desmos. My machine can otherwise run elements with upto 10,000 elements quite easily (at about 40 Fps) and 1,000 elements effortlessly (at 144Fps!!).
@Howtheheckarehandleswit
@Howtheheckarehandleswit Жыл бұрын
@@creepervideo1106 Desmos is not a very well optimized application for that purpose, and cannot take full advantage of your hardware. You absolutely can animate that derivative with software more capable using the hardware available to it and more able to analyze the problem and find shortcuts. For example, Desmos actually calculates every single intermediate derivative numerically for every x value it draws every time the animation parameter changes, but software designed for that purpose would likely be able to symbolically solve for the 8th derivative of y = (1/x)(sin(x+p)), giving it a much faster function to recompute when p changes.
@creepervideo1106
@creepervideo1106 Жыл бұрын
@@Howtheheckarehandleswit Thanks for the tip!
@treelibrarian7618
@treelibrarian7618 Жыл бұрын
@Drew Duncan is still basically correct, it's a problem of relative precision when the curve values are much larger than the difference between them and accuracy is lost due to computational rounding - though I would think the solution to this is simply to translate the entire curve to put the point being calculated at the origin so that maximum accuracy can be maintained...
@LinesThatConnect
@LinesThatConnect Жыл бұрын
Awesome! This formula felt like black magic when I first saw it (and it still does), but it feels a lot less mysterious now that I can see such a straightforward derivation of the n=2 case.
Ай бұрын
Its him
@alecboyd6108
@alecboyd6108 Жыл бұрын
Derivative Compression, the "n"th derivative of a function, can be expressed for some nice functions as an extension of cauchy's integral formula in complex analysis. this result is highly related to the residue theorem and, consequentially, this yields no (simple) results in the field of fractional calculus, as inputting a fractional n changes the pole in the denominator of the integral to a branch cut, which is not easy (or often even possible) to evaluate. this function also only returns the value at a point, not a function over the entire complex plane.
@joshr5151
@joshr5151 Жыл бұрын
i understood like 3 of those words
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list Жыл бұрын
Do you know of a source that explains this in more detail?
@eduardonavarro4172
@eduardonavarro4172 Жыл бұрын
@@dj_laundry_list Complex analisis, complex calculus (calculus IV also works) and any type of advanced calculus courses, I just viewed las month on a mathematical methods for geophycisists so it was sparse but show how the Cauchy integration formula works and it's used (the course was more centered on series as computing is fundamental in the field)
@DokterKaj
@DokterKaj Жыл бұрын
So underrated! You explain things so clearly and present a very intuitive visual interpretation. You deserve so many more subs.
@cparks1000000
@cparks1000000 Жыл бұрын
In practice, we use this technique in reverse to replace an operator norm with a double integral. Also, (16:19) if you're content with working with complex analytic functions, the Bergman kernel allows you to write a derivative as an integral. You can write any power of a derivative as an integral also. I agree though that integrals are very powerful.
@robwarriors62
@robwarriors62 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. Really opens up creative thought at a high-school calculus level. Wish I had this sort of direction when I was learning. Instant subscription and can't wait to see what's next.
@jh8801
@jh8801 Жыл бұрын
ive never seen a person do a math cliffhanger lol
@cdkw2
@cdkw2 Ай бұрын
me neither lol
@qoyote
@qoyote 11 ай бұрын
you could do five or six integrals, or... just one.
@asheep7797
@asheep7797 2 ай бұрын
i dont need more, they disappoint me
@maysaraaljumaily
@maysaraaljumaily Жыл бұрын
Well done! The animation at 6:30 that change the 2D representation to 3D is very smooth!
@chanceroberson7517
@chanceroberson7517 Жыл бұрын
Just took calculus 3 last semester, this blew my mind. Well done, perfect video
@timelsen2236
@timelsen2236 Жыл бұрын
Most excellent! I've wanted to see this for so long and was frustrated about it, ever since seeing the formula in the first pages of a text on integral equations. Thank You so much!
@davidhjedwy
@davidhjedwy Жыл бұрын
you forgot the constant c
@newgreen956
@newgreen956 Жыл бұрын
I found it interesting, that the resulting formula is similar to convolution of x^n with f(x). After thinking about it it makes sense though and gives another way of deriving the formula: Using Laplace transforms we can transform a function from the time domain into the frequency domain, using s as the new variable. An integration in the time domain shows up as a multiplication with 1/s in the frequency domain, so double integration becomes 1/s^2 etc. Transforming it back we can however use the fact, that multiplication in the frequency domain becomes a convolution in the time domain. And what does 1/s^2 correspond to? It corresponds to x. 1/s^n corresponds to 1/(n-1)! x^(n-1). Plugging this into the formula gives the above result. It's quite nice how in mathematics all roads lead to the same spot.
@Pystro
@Pystro Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this works for compressing multi derivatives. You'd just need values for s^n in terms of x. Ah dang, that part seems to just cycle back to derivatives of the delta distribution, which means that EVALUATING the multi-derivative in practice means doing all the derivatives individually, just as for the compressed multi-integral. And my intuition tells me that numerical evaluation isn't simplified either.
@gaHuJIa_Macmep
@gaHuJIa_Macmep Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You have just reinvented Sobolev's spaces of fractional derivatives!.. :)
@hermaeusmora749
@hermaeusmora749 Жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing. I think this makes the entire concept fit in my tiny brain better
@urnoob5528
@urnoob5528 9 ай бұрын
frequency domain is fourier s is complex domain bruv
@berryesseen
@berryesseen 9 ай бұрын
The resulting formula isn't like the convolution with the function t, it is exactly that. The video is just visualizing the Laplace transform. This property is why the control theorists love using Laplace transforms.
@ralllao7295
@ralllao7295 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just great educational content! Keep making math learning more interesting & engaging!
@richardcoppin5332
@richardcoppin5332 Жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Very well done. You've made a pretty abstract concept very accessible and easy to understand.
@neelanshguptaa310
@neelanshguptaa310 Жыл бұрын
I just cannot put in words much this helped me understand why limit points for double integrals are the way they are. Just brilliant stuff.
@shakerzayani7655
@shakerzayani7655 Жыл бұрын
Wooow!! This channel is so underrated. I really enjoy your content, Thanks a lot.
@pa.l.2499
@pa.l.2499 Жыл бұрын
Legendary explanation I have waited for to explain in visual terms double integrals. New insights that bring nostalgia of first learning integral calculus and the FTC itself. I am giving a Subscribe and thank you.
@Happy_Abe
@Happy_Abe 2 жыл бұрын
How do you not have 100 times as many subscribers? Your content is of the best math on KZbin!
@abdullahyasinyagmur4687
@abdullahyasinyagmur4687 Жыл бұрын
This was amazing. It opened up a new horizon for me. Thank You.
@brighamhellewell6479
@brighamhellewell6479 2 жыл бұрын
Yay a new video from this math youtuber! Keep up the good work
@iamtraditi4075
@iamtraditi4075 2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! Keep it up!
@diplomaticfish
@diplomaticfish Жыл бұрын
Really outstanding video, every question I had as I was watching you answered two seconds later
@fizzarubab8959
@fizzarubab8959 Ай бұрын
Beautifully explained! Thank you!
@AgentM124
@AgentM124 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, half integrals? Fractional integrals? Can't wait to get the π's ∫ of a function
@victorribera5796
@victorribera5796 Жыл бұрын
I was going to ask about that last part just before it apeared, great introduction to fractional derivatives and integrals
@lifthrasir1609
@lifthrasir1609 2 жыл бұрын
Nice cliffhanger at the end ;) waiting for a sequel!
@MrShiggitty
@MrShiggitty Жыл бұрын
That was really cool, it was like seeing a u-substitution but in a perfect 3D form. Or like he turned the u-sub into an operator function, again, crazy cool. It's like this guy understands integration at a level higher than Riemann or Leibniz, well played. Like a version of super calculus?
@dylanparker130
@dylanparker130 Жыл бұрын
This was beautiful stuff - blew me away on a Saturday night!
@banhminuongmuoiot
@banhminuongmuoiot 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making calculus seems so easy and appealing
@madmorto2610
@madmorto2610 Жыл бұрын
This video is amazingly painful. As a high school student bored with the basic calculus I had been doing in class (volumes of revolution and arc length etc.) I began to play around with trying integrate the volumes of other solids. I eventually figured out how to tie two integrals together and find the volumes of lots more shapes - like ellipsoids. It’s really painful to see just how close I was to this amazing formula! I wish I had obtained it myself… Great video and great animations. Well done!
@user-zp3xc4to1t
@user-zp3xc4to1t Жыл бұрын
you were "close" to a cauchy formula as a high school student! thats insane. You should be proud of yourself
@madmorto2610
@madmorto2610 Жыл бұрын
@@user-zp3xc4to1t thanks. In the little experience I have, deriving or proving a result is often the easy part. Asking the right question and seeing something mathematically that you don’t already know exists is the much harder part.
@realcygnus
@realcygnus Жыл бұрын
If you're doing anything even close to this level in HS, there is absolutely NOTHING to be ashamed of & even some pride is in order. In fact, I'd say we can already expect great things from you.
@AJ-et3vf
@AJ-et3vf Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you!
@kobemop
@kobemop Жыл бұрын
A lot of this stuff appears in physics, especially when we're dealing with phase spaces where you have to expand out momentums and positions (could be in terms of hyperspheres, hypercubes, ..., etc). They also appear when you do higher dimensional Fourier transforms, can occur in special relativity too if your taking account of the fourth dimension (which is usually time), and as well as dealing with characteristic functions. However, I have to say that in physics we write our integrals as ∫d⁴x *which is a neat way of condensing it), and then it comes out as ∫∫∫∫dxdx'dx''dx'''. In terms of phase space where p is the momentum and r is the position, we have ∫d³p∫d³r = ∫∫∫dpdp'dp''∫∫∫drdr'dr'' = ∫∫∫∫∫∫dpdp'dp''drdr'dr'' (which is a six-fold integral). To take it further you can also write ∫∫∫∫∫∫dpdp'dp''drdr'dr'' as one integral ∫dpdp'dp''drdr'dr'', but have many integrals appear out looks nice and aesthetic. Sometimes the integrals derivatives are written with subscript x_1 and so on. These types of integrals appear in quantum optics (where you deal with a lot of things in phase space), quantum field theory, quantum mechanics, and statistical mechanics.
@fullfungo
@fullfungo Жыл бұрын
I’m curious, can you prove Cauchy’s formula for repeated integration by using a 2-to-1 integral formula repeatedly? So, something like proof by induction. Or does it give a different uglier result?
@mabm2308
@mabm2308 Жыл бұрын
actually the 'classical' proof is done by induction :) and yes, imo it's a messy and ugly task. Also, if you want to take this whole concept of repeated integration to a continuous case with, say, r (real) times of iterated integration instead of n (natural) times of iterated integration, you'll find out the Gel'fand-Shilov function convoluted with the f(t) function. Edit: references kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaaYZIeBoZ2Uqsk Solved exercises in fractional calculus - Edmundo Capelas de Oliveira. p.175
@gaHuJIa_Macmep
@gaHuJIa_Macmep Жыл бұрын
Try to read my comment up where I described how to get the general formula without induction, just from the first principles...
@DoxxTheMathGeek
@DoxxTheMathGeek Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I like it how you used 2*Pi, Pi, sqrt(2), Pi/2 and e and so one at 13:11.
@barrerasciencelabuniverse6606
@barrerasciencelabuniverse6606 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou! I learned a lot! Very good!
@blackestbill7454
@blackestbill7454 10 ай бұрын
Amazing video and visualizations
@IvyANguyen
@IvyANguyen 11 ай бұрын
Very fascinating!
@alexandrkovalsky1711
@alexandrkovalsky1711 Жыл бұрын
Great video, keep going!
@Schlaousilein67
@Schlaousilein67 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you !
@jucom756
@jucom756 Жыл бұрын
oooh another really fun derivation from this is the subfactorial complex extension, making use of the subfactorial property that is most similar to normal factorials (!n=n*!(n-1)+(-1)^n) you just have to modify the formula slightly to change the nonderivative term of the partial integration to match this property instead of the factorial "n!=n*(n-1)!" and then it turns out you get complex numbers in return (makes sense since the formula contains -1^(z))
@johnyeap7133
@johnyeap7133 Жыл бұрын
Just beautiful and poetic
@ts.nathan7786
@ts.nathan7786 10 ай бұрын
Super explanation 👌
@prdoyle
@prdoyle Жыл бұрын
Wow, the visuals are amazing. I literally said "slice it the other way" out loud at 6:55, just as you intended!
@jumisansu
@jumisansu Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this knowledge :> Hopefully I can use it when I encounter multiple integrals in my self study journey
@geraltofrivia9424
@geraltofrivia9424 Жыл бұрын
Amazing quality content
@diemme568
@diemme568 Жыл бұрын
beautiful video
@stevenschilizzi4104
@stevenschilizzi4104 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@Abhi-kr6df
@Abhi-kr6df Жыл бұрын
You made my day
@kcbandyopadhyay6747
@kcbandyopadhyay6747 Жыл бұрын
Magnificent Meticulously Innovative Method ascertain the truly ideal Teacher
@nilpunch2
@nilpunch2 Жыл бұрын
Holy.. Your's math is super fun!!!!
@pendragon7600
@pendragon7600 Жыл бұрын
There is a way to compute iterated derivatives using matrix diagonalization. Since derivatives are regular invertible linear operators, they can be encoded as a diagonalizable matrix. Using eigenvalue decomposition to compute powers of this matrix and representing functions as vectors with real coefficients in a function space is equivalent to computing iterated derivatives.
@yosoylibre
@yosoylibre Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn
@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn 2 ай бұрын
Also, another interesting thing is contour integrals. A contour integral is an integral that integrates over a boundary in any dimensions, unlike normal integrals, which only integrate in their respective dimensions. To differentiate the differentials of contour and normal integrals, we use s's rather than conventional letters, so dx -> ds, dA/dxdy/rdrdθ -> dS, dV/dxdydz/rdrdθdz/ρ^2*sin(φ)dρdφdθ -> dC (for cellular volume). Also, ds, dS, and dC are magnitudes of the dr, dS, and the dC vectors: dr = , dS = , dC = . These differentials are crucial in finding arclength, surface area, and cellular volume. For example, the arclength of a given function in 2-space is given by ds, which is √(1+y'^2)dx, √(x'^2+y'^2)dt, and √(r^2+r'^2)dθ. Surface area follows a similar pattern. The most common formula for surface areas are dS = sqrt(1+∂x+∂y)dA = |∂s x ∂t|dsdt, and 2πrds, from solids of revolution. Because of that, we can derive the formulas for cellular volume being sqrt(1+∂x+∂y+∂z)dV = |∂r x ∂s x ∂t|drdsdt, and 2πrdS. To evaluate contour integrals, you need to make sure your differentials are in magnitude form. Sometimes, they would already be in such form, like when you are trying to find the mass of a spring or a solid lamina, but most of the time, you are given a vector field and are trying to compute the circulation or the flux across a given path or surface, in this case, you must dot the vector field with the normal to turn it into a magnitude. You also need to parametrize the surfaces as well. However, there are some useful formulas: Fundamental Theorem: If a vector field is conservative, meaning it is the gradient of a function, a line integral is just taken as an ordinary antiderivative, as the differential of a multivariable function is just the gradient dotted with the dr vector. Divergence Theorem: The flux of a given vector field is proportional to its divergence and its interior content: ∯ F ∙ dS = ∭div F * dV, ∰ F ∙ dC = ⨌div F * dH Stokes' Theorem: The surface integral of a given vector field is proportional to its curl and its circulation: ∮ F ∙ dr = ∯ curl F ∙ dS
@berryesseen
@berryesseen 9 ай бұрын
In terms of Laplace transforms: Let * operator denote convolution. Recall the definition f(t) * g(t) = int f(t-x) g(x)dx. Then, int (t-x) f(x) dt = f(t) * t t = u(t) * u(t) So, int (t-x) f(x) dt = f(t) * u(t) * u(t) Since convolving by the unit step function u(t) is the same as integrating, int( (t-x) f(x) dt = int^2 f(x) dx. This video actually explains the relationship between the functions and their Laplace transforms.
@AJMansfield1
@AJMansfield1 Жыл бұрын
3:40 Well, I suppose using the laplace transform would be a way of integrating without integrating: ℒ{ ∫∫ 6x dx dx } = 6 ℒ{x} / s² = 3! / s⁴ = ℒ{ x³ }
@HUEHUEUHEPony
@HUEHUEUHEPony Жыл бұрын
a laplace transform is an integral..
@erikross-rnnow5517
@erikross-rnnow5517 Жыл бұрын
L[take](s)
@gaHuJIa_Macmep
@gaHuJIa_Macmep Жыл бұрын
How on Earth were you able to type in such a beautifully-fonted reply?.. I envy you... :)
@hermaeusmora749
@hermaeusmora749 Жыл бұрын
I can see this makes sense but I don’t understand this completely. Can you write out the general case as laplace transforms? I’m unfortunately not familiar enough with them
@AJMansfield1
@AJMansfield1 Жыл бұрын
@@gaHuJIa_Macmep using fancy unicode characters. Specifically: U+2112 "Script Capital L", U+222B "Integral", U+00B2 "Superscript Two", U+00B3 "Superscript Three", and U+00B4 "Superscript Four".
@drew1998
@drew1998 Жыл бұрын
Looks like this is really just replacing the "nested" integrals with other integrals that just happen to have a well known form (areas of rectangles, rectangular prisms, etc.). Reminds me of a video about the circumference of an ellipse having no closed-form constant w.r.t. axis, but a circle does - pi, but pi is just a special constant we've come to recognize and could easily define another constant for other ellipses
@sinecurve9999
@sinecurve9999 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy! Fractional calculus here we come!
@michaelhanford8139
@michaelhanford8139 Жыл бұрын
👍👍I think i remember learning this formula in 'calc 3', multivariable calc
@fantasypvp
@fantasypvp 3 ай бұрын
16:20 you may want to have a look into Leibnitz's theorem. It's a method for taking the nth derivative of a function. It splits the function into parts and takes the derivative of both parts n times then combines them together.
@hermaeusmora749
@hermaeusmora749 Жыл бұрын
At 12:44 you mentioned that the integrand is not the inner integral. This is because we are switching the limits of the integration, ie the inner integral goes out and the outer one comes inside. This is also what you did geometrically by slicing the integral a different way.
@krishnamania1
@krishnamania1 7 ай бұрын
Noice broooo keep making videos with moree quality over quantity
@ErdemtugsC
@ErdemtugsC Ай бұрын
The music and visuals are giving me nostalgia
@Vijwal
@Vijwal 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: to integrate (t-x)(f(x)), unless f(x) is a polynomial or some easy function, we would need to integrate x*f(x) using integration by parts, which requires us to find the double integral of f(x)
@vikraal6974
@vikraal6974 Жыл бұрын
Damn you really ended it with a plot twist. Fractional integrals and thereby opening doors to Fractional derivatives.
@HaramGuys
@HaramGuys Жыл бұрын
It can also be thought as taking the integral with the greens function for (d/dx)^n operator
@gaHuJIa_Macmep
@gaHuJIa_Macmep Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@kerr.andrew
@kerr.andrew Жыл бұрын
6:34! Brilliant!
@fraktaalimuoto
@fraktaalimuoto Жыл бұрын
Such a fantastic way to talk about calculus! Am I right that this principle applies only to functions dependent on a single variable e.g. f(x) but it would be different for multiple variable function e.g. f(x,y)?
@orlandomarchena4885
@orlandomarchena4885 Жыл бұрын
You know ; I just HATED it when he closed with a teaser about the Gamma- function and its role in computing a multiple integral. But that's the way to get more subscribers I suppose. And in my case : it WORKED. So I just subscribed and will DEFINITELY be back and recommend this channel to any math-geek I talk to. Keep up the good work: "Aux Revoir "......
@maxpetschack3342
@maxpetschack3342 Жыл бұрын
Mark my words it's only a matter of time before this channel blows up
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader Жыл бұрын
Clicked for the impossible task. Stayed for the amazing explanation
@user-vt4bz2vl6j
@user-vt4bz2vl6j 3 ай бұрын
Nested Integral : You can't beat me, I'm compressible. Derivative: You're right I can't. But he can. (d2y/dx2)
@ozzymandius666
@ozzymandius666 2 ай бұрын
I have an old HP15C that does numerical integration, and the manual has a whole section on dealing with cumulative error.
@brian8507
@brian8507 Жыл бұрын
Before watching video: cauchys integral formula for the nth derivative... and u can use negitive numbers to mean integrals.. but you gotta use gamma formula and complex numbers. But it works After watching video.. no cauchys integral formula is equivalent to the one you showed
@JanR1995
@JanR1995 11 ай бұрын
I definitely learned about that in university, but completely forgot - or didn't understood back then.
@badorni69
@badorni69 6 ай бұрын
Actually theres formulas for n-th derivatives for p much every function including chains, it's just usually a sum or product up to n, which isn't really expandable for non integer n, however they are p beautiful if you asked me!
@janihietalahti8667
@janihietalahti8667 Ай бұрын
When I thought thta 2:30 part problem, I think we can just make this as general form where: ∬6x dx dx can be expressed as k*∬x^n where n =1, k=6 for example, if we take one integral as in our mind, we see that it grow up power n with +1. Also we have to take division k/(n+1) * ∫x^(n+1) dx we see how it end up, we can write basic form multi-integral as formula: (k / (∏(n+i,i,1,t)) )*x^(n+t) where k=constant, n=x's power on starting, t=number of integrals. for example, if we have ∭∭14 sqrt(x) dx^6 . We can write this as: 14/((n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4)(n+5)(n+6)) * x^(n+6) where n =1/2 ((14)/(∏(n+i,i,1,t)))*x^(n+6)|n=((1)/(2)) and t=6 ▸ ((128*x^(13))/(19305))
@shakob2
@shakob2 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@TechSY730
@TechSY730 Жыл бұрын
Is this alternate way to think of nested integration related to how Lebesgue integration is considered superior for higher dimensions (input or output), as it tends to generalize cleaner than Reimann integration?
@bsharpmajorscale
@bsharpmajorscale Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I should have guess that factorial would show up. Still annoys me that the continuous version most people use is the gamma function, and not the actually equivalent pi function. (But I love gamma for Four 4s, since it makes 6 super easy to get, among other things.)
@giobrach
@giobrach Жыл бұрын
This formula for repeated integration also appears when expressing the remainder of a Taylor polynomial approximation in the "integral form" - because, unlike the Peano, Lagrange, or Cauchy forms, it uses an integral
@gaHuJIa_Macmep
@gaHuJIa_Macmep Жыл бұрын
Well, while the way you presented the Cauchy formula (frankly, I even was unaware of its existence) for the 2D case seems quite inventive and geometrical, but it lacks the n-dimensional easy visual interpretation and the similar easy derivation. Also it seems to be over-complicated a bit. I, for example, was able to derive it mentally myself although I, as I told already, was unaware of it. For a second "anti-derivative" I considered a linear differential equation F" = f(x), and, having general solution of the corresponding homogeneous equation F" = 0 to be F(x) = Cx+ D, I constructed the Green function and found the solution of the initial non-homogeneous equation as a single integral. It's clear how this method is generalized to an n-dimensional case, using the theory of ODE. And this method has a geometric interpretation too, as the solution via the Green's function is the output of a linear system to the given input while the Green's function is the output for the input of the form of a Dirac's delta-function. Sad you didn't mentioned the fact in the video. Anyway, thanks for educating.
@sanjoynathgeometrifyingtrigono
@sanjoynathgeometrifyingtrigono Жыл бұрын
Interpreting things with geometrifying trigonometry give meaningful visualization for Cauchys repeated integrals
@shoam2103
@shoam2103 Жыл бұрын
17:45 This is a good lead in to your next video, fractional derivatives / integrals
@ashwinjain5566
@ashwinjain5566 Жыл бұрын
the cliffhanger at the end was better than most netflix shows ngl
@alexandersmeets5031
@alexandersmeets5031 Жыл бұрын
the audacity you have to end this video on a cliffhanger!! Anyways, it was a really interesting video, thank you very much!!
@BRunoAWAY
@BRunoAWAY Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that IS the lebesgue integration applied tô dimensional reduction on definite multidimensional integrals
@Epidemeus
@Epidemeus Жыл бұрын
Great video by the way. Is using Reimann-Louiville's fractional derivative/integral considered as integral and differentiation compression? The fractional construction generalizes the differential operator, such that the differential operator of the order n defines derivation done n number of times, and -n defines integration done n number of times. The formulation is a single integral and it makes use of the generalization of the aforementioned factorial: the gamma function. Not only does this formulation take into account both integration and derivation, but also any differential operator that is of the order of any real number - even fractional integration and derivation
@UnrivaledLimit0500
@UnrivaledLimit0500 Жыл бұрын
This video was a trip.
@Tclack
@Tclack Жыл бұрын
Is this related to stoke's theorem? (not the surface integral to integral of divergence of a function over a volume, but the more general one) From what I understand it's a generalization of this "integral reduction" we see with the fundamental theorem of calculus, divergence theorem and the "little" stoke's theorem taught in a first course on vector calc.
@rat_king-
@rat_king- Жыл бұрын
@Morphocular heres one thing about differentiating.. it can go below 0 and integration can go above 0. why don't we regularly perform these functions? why do we infact simplify to cancelation as a rule? x^0 goes to # 1, but X^-1 is right there as a possibililty for the next differential. simarly the reverse for integration. why dont we go past these arbitary lines? Or is there something im missing?
@andrewsantopietro3526
@andrewsantopietro3526 Жыл бұрын
“How can I turn this double integral into a single integral?” “you integrate it, dummy.” “But I don’t wannnaaaaa 😭😭😭.”
@karolakkolo123
@karolakkolo123 2 жыл бұрын
Integration of a variable order next please
@Krishna-em1oo
@Krishna-em1oo Жыл бұрын
You may get a limit but it would not be tangent if the function is not defined at particular x( limiting case of secant❌
@Jee2024IIT
@Jee2024IIT Жыл бұрын
Can we get a video for partial differentiation?
@depressedguy9467
@depressedguy9467 Жыл бұрын
I want a video on lyapunov function please
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