Morrissey on New York Doll Documentary - Part I (2005)

[@MyloXyloto94]

The way he described the Dolls is exactly how many people view the Smiths. To be around such a short time, to accomplish so much, and to have people actually take time to listen to them and understand where they’re coming from. It’s a beautiful thing to have true fans over mainstream success. Not that mainstream success is necessarily a bad thing, but having the smaller clique of people who truly appreciates and understands you is something prodigious.

[@burtmanly5208]

Yes, of course, because fans are fans, ultimately all of us fans are the alike, its just the object of fandom that differs

[@h.markhorton8188]

You make a great point. Mainstream success is a numbers game, but “underground success” with TRUE fans is love and passion and something special and precious.

[@FreudianSlipandSlide-s5g]

Yep. I agree wholeheartedly.

[@evilashxero]

I like this. Lots of Moz interviews, he seems like he doesn't want to talk, or he's being difficult. Here, he is just straightforward, and serious. Good to see it.

[@Andrew.Stuart]

evilashxero I agree, he's very open here.

[@evilashxero]

Yeah. It's refreshing. I wonder if there are more out there like it?

[@evilashxero]

***** I dunno about that one. lol He seems pretty antagonistic sometimes. Also, at times he won't be serious at all. It just matters who the interviewer is. Here, he is talking about someone he admires, and is being quite straight forward.

[@schwarzblatt]

Humble? Never difficult? We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Moz thrives on being difficult in my view. I think he'd be insulted by anyone who would consider him easy-going.

[@isla2753]

Not being asked about himself 🙂

[@TheBella2u]

He is a beautiful and eloquent man.

[@corychang3901]

Morrissey is such a class act.

[@jagguy1225]

I've never been a "fan" of Morrissey but after hearing the nice things he said about the Dolls, he has definitely grown larger in my eyes!

[@photonfartsqueeze6694]

He wrote a book about them before he formed The Smiths with Marr.

[@FredericaMussolini]

Lovely to used Moz speaking about a topic that is not himself. He's so much more relaxed and at ease. He is the REAL DEAL!

[@inikainika1523]

@Dave Wray no shit

[@EFRAINKING20]

I adore his accent, his enthusiasm on the dolls, he is my hero, can't wait to see him later. Thanks for coming to Winnipeg.

[@deedonnerramone4757]

Growing up in NW Detroit in 70's, The New York Dolls were gods and loved. Dolls play many shows around the metro area - and we loved 'em. I saw the new version at Cobo Hall, warming up J. Giels Band in June 1976 - and they rocked.

[@meatforyourmom]

As a New Yorker i envy you growing up in Detroit in the 70’s. Musta been cool AF to see all those amazing bands and how revered Detroit was. If you played Detroit, and did well, that band usually got big. Least that’s how it seems to me. All the times Detroit has been mentioned in songs and lyrics around that time was immense.

[@AnthonyMonaghan]

Great interview. Wonderful to hear Morrissey talk so honestly and with such passion about something so dear to him.

[@gigabrother458]

This is the greatest songwriter of his generation. I don't care if you don't agree.

[@tormentors]

He has the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen so bright and full of life 🤗

[@rhondaquintero7369]

Just a stunning man. Eyes, lips, voice, accent, intellect....all of it.

[@sebastianponce9658]

This is by far the most useful and credible source of knowledge and true recognition of the New York Dolls and what they accomplished as artists.

[@jacksonrocker1235]

The New York dolls were a great band, one of my favourite bands of all time.

[@antonydawson6932]

Jet boy stole my baaaaaaaby

[@godramen7104]

@@antonydawson6932 FLYING AROUND NEW YORK CITY SO HIGH!!!!!!!........

[@rjplamf61]

New York Doll was the most riveting rock documentary I ever saw.

[@chrisg9459]

Ooh I love Moz and the Dolls. The movie was excellent. I cried like a little baby. RIP Billy, Johnny,Jerry, and Arthur.

[@motorcop505]

And now RIP Sylvain Mizrahi.

[@sistersuetube]

I used to ride bus no 4 on Santa Monica Blvd with a nice blonde haired guy named Arthur. We sat in the back. He always got off at the Mormon Temple. I had NO IDEA who he was. Thanks Morrissey for the documentary.

[@DaltonCulture]

sadly, New York Dolls was the most underrated band in the history of rock music

[@entropyfan5714]

OMG, someone else knows about Turbonegro! I am really shocked.

[@arricammarques1955]

NYD were trailblazers victims of society prejudice.

[@kenpudsey6435]

Fidel -sadly that is very true,such a great band!

[@sickquads4me]

New York Dolls had so much talent . Sucks they split up after what .2/3 years?

[@janedawson1398]

DaltonCulture I disagree. Such terrible songs. Most overrated band ever. Influential as far as attitude but they’re a lot like Black Flag. Influential but they actually suck.

[@dannyhart3982]

The New York Dolls were a fucking brillant band!

[@johnsradios484]

Very insightful , another band that was very influential but made very little money . When you are ahead of your time you open the doors for the people who follow . Velvet Underground comes to mind as another influential band .

[@sexobscura]

The masses are simply 'behind the times' ie: Galileo was ostracised for telling the truth

[@scotthanback4530]

The verve

[@kurtashton4155]

Say what you want about Morrissey, the mans' a genius!!

[@ShineMoable]

Excellent! Ohhh, he looks super handsome! Also, Morrissey really has insight into the dolls. They were a special band.

[@chamberpot969]

Loved the documentary. Arthur 'Killer' Kane, a real legend.

[@nicholasmole-md8jw]

Best music interview I've ever seen,end of

[@jonsilence]

I saw the Dolls over several nights when they made their '73 LA debut at the Whisky. Arthur was bandaged up and miserable but played a bit here and there as I recall. Opening band Mayson from W. Virginia, with their mellotron-tinged prog/glam hybrid and androgynous look also provided a powerful part of the show; they eventually changed their name to White Noise Pink Noise and signed w/Bearsville but were shelved. Even at this early point on the timeline The Dolls were the proverbial 'hot mess'. Watching it all at ground zero at point blank range remains a vivid and palpable memory.

[@ElfeMusik]

long live the New York Dolls !!!!!

[@tattoofthesun]

i learned more here than on the damn NY Dolls Wikipedia page. thanks Mozz

[@seanfromengland]

Morrissey looking very well.

[@janpoortvlietforenglandman7959]

The New York Dolls Were One Of The Greatest Bands Ever!!!!!!! I Love The New York Dolls, the first 2 albums are classics, Johnny Thunders Is One Of The Best Punk Rock Guitarists ever. The Dolls Were The Best.

[@wallacelovecraft8942]

Good interview for the documentary. It's nice seeing his full interview.

[@angeliquetavares5141]

Moz from heart to art. And his, their trials. We the people will always look after you .

[@futurelegendfilms]

Moz is so great. I love his devotion to the Dolls.

[@berniee7858]

I love you Moz!!!! ❤

[@billytherhinonyc]

think i like morrissey more talking than singing.actually like him a bunch.how soon is now is one of pops best.

[@Kopperafiel]

Bless you Mr. Morrissey. The Dolls were the best band in the world.

[@marilurasonyi218]

Moz is looks gorgeous in this video!

[@dave308ek92646]

It took a lot of deaths to understand a lot of art.

[@jemima216]

David Kruse profound.

[@donniekellerman5833]

The documentary that this interview is taken from is done really well. It doesn't get bogged down with interviews from people nobody cares about. Arthur was the ONLY guy who couldn't turn his time with the Dolls into a life long career... but he had the guts to share that & risk being a joke where as most would never dare to. I hope he's finally found peace.

[@zepsabpurp]

Yes Morrissey Yes, NYD were and still are a great band, love them, love The Smiths. That's all that needs to be said.

[@arricammarques1955]

Enlightened interview! Arthur RIP, David & Sylvain remain. NYD the original bad boys of R&R.

[@tendercomrade2330]

"we still listen to pop music from 7 million years ago"

[@cowboysfan782008]

It's funny I graduated in 86' so I was right there in the Smiths/Morrissey era and though more a Zep rocker I did get into Morrisey, who seemed so cold and cockey and callous but at least now he seems to have a heart of gold. I saw him around 1991 and he played a blink and you missed it concert, which I also though wow the balls of this guy. It was seriously maybe an hour at best.

[@ivanasaavedrajumpa4676]

This charming man

[@meesalikeu]

all thx to morrissey for the dolls reunion that became so bittersweet.

[@spikesification]

The dolls kicked the door open...and everyone else rushed through...

[@Smooth0vibrations]

Beatles did first, then the Dolls followed suit in the 70s.

[@TimeTraveller010]

@@Smooth0vibrations The Beatles? You can't be serious? The dullest band ever to grace the planet. And irrespective of Morrisey as Fan Club prez of the New York dolls, the Smiths were boring too...Any pioneering seminal music came out of the U.S.A. It's not a moot point. End.

[@outis439-A]

@@TimeTraveller010 Kinks? Who? Stones? Abbey Road? Black Sabbath? huh buddy?

[@TimeTraveller010]

@@outis439-A Sure all boring bands, buddy!

[@outis439-A]

@@TimeTraveller010 Then what bands do you like?

[@arm5080]

Great picture

[@wimbledan]

Saw the Dolls at Hyde Park in a tent then straight after saw Moz on the main stage. Great night.

[@Anna-loves-you]

Say what you will about Morrissey, he really did right by Arthur and the Dolls. Rip Syl, Killer, Jerry, Johnny and Billy!!!

[@djgforce11]

"Those dreadful hairs bands of the 80s"...good 1 Morrissey.

[@rocknroll_jezus9233]

Crüe were pretty original although I understand his distaste for most of the bands

[@bradroberts4202]

Morrissey is such a clever dude! 😃👌

[@bradroberts4202]

I reckon when Morrissey retires from doing music, he should do documentaries. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@chrisarmstrong5057]

Agreed. I saw them in 1973 at university. Long live R&R

[@jakehall5487]

Eyebrow game during conversation is key.

[@drazenbabich]

Of course it is, that's one of the things we like about him.

[@markzee6331]

I think he’s really fighting back the tears here early in the interview. They were a huge influence on his teenage years, to the point of obsession.

[@twobyfour]

It is great to see the master curmudgeon be so effusive, and so lucid about something he really, really loves.

[@stephaniecunha3552]

Eu fico meio paralisada com esse jeito dele de falar. Como é possível tanta elegância? E a voz?? Uau!

[@schwarzblatt]

Fantastic interview... and, I want this hairstyle.

[@paulrobertsonmusic407]

This person inspired me so much. It happened a long time ago.

[@pierrehammarstrom3034]

New York dolls were one of my favorite bands! And i have spoken to Johnny in early 1986 R. I.P

[@gregtuco1]

The music! If only people would just listen to the music.

[@klausrain111]

"All those DREADFUL American hair bands in the 80s." Hahahahah! You got that right, Morrissey.

[@sickquads4me]

RIP Johnny thunders Arthur Cain Jerry Nolan :(

[@janpoortvlietforenglandman7959]

sickquads4me And Billy Murcia The Original drummer who sadly died, he was Then Replaced by Jerry Nolan.

[@VonHoganSchmidt]

very interesting. long Live THE NEW YORK DOLLS

[@donniekellerman5833]

For those that don't know, when JT & JN left the band the Dolls had live commitments that needed to be filled. Enter a New Yorker by the name of Blackie 'Goozmen' (spelling?). After he & Arthur went to L.A. & formed Killer Kane. That ended & Blackie formed the band 'Sister' which became 'Circus Circus'. After that, he changed his name to Blackie 'Lawless' & formed 'We Are Sexual Perverts' better known by the nomenclature as W.A.S.P.!!

[@MrClockworkbanana]

The dolls were fun AND EXCITING ❤

[@theboywithathorninhisside.4179]

And Trash, the Morrissey cover is a, and always be a Classic.. Shame he doesn't do it Post 'Introducing Morrissey' 90s days.

[@gavvino1]

Agreed. I saw it on the Kill Uncle Tour..30 short years ago..

[@mildred714]

Human Being is amazing too.

[@MetalHeadAZ]

totally agree with Morrissey 100%

[@p.l.h.9661]

Trash is my fave Dolls track too.

[@alexdebua]

P.L. H. Mine is chatterbox

[@sexobscura]

Puss in Boots

[@BasementPepperoni]

Imagine being diagnosed with cancer, and then dying within 2 hours after hearing the news. That has got to be the most insane case I've ever heard of.

[@clarkewi]

The Dolls were amazing. Johny Thunders stands as one of the greats.

[@bobdobbs7000]

Morrissey is mostly on the mark in describing the NY Dolls. I dislike and disagree with the cliche, " they were ahead of their time." A error. They were right on time for those of us aching for a band to shatter the MOR morass that was so prevalent at that time. It just took everyone else 30 years to catch up. The Dolls simply couldn't sell enough units for a major label to justify keeping them on contract. I loved them because they were the real thing. He's right--" those were very dark days."

[@AthleticDesign]

Yep, simple as that really. Very good comment

[@thursoberwick1948]

MOR or MOP morass is back.

[@DrewBludd]

I think he means in a larger mainstream sense. I'm the only one of my friends who knows who the Dolls are. You don't see them on TV or in commercials. Certainly not on the radio.

[@user-nd5jc8xv8v]

I like Morrissey hes down to earth

[@thursoberwick1948]

Not where veganism is involved.

[@angiemaclas9923]

He's just so hot 💐💋

[@estebansteverincon7117]

Remember kids: Morrissey was so adamant about reuniting The New York Dolls when no one wanted them to but everyone else is more adamant about The Smithe reuniting when Morrissey doesn't really want to ;)

[@Mobile-Game-Magic]

Amazing ;)

[@user-nd5jc8xv8v]

god their all dead bar the singer. To see this band together back in the day is magical.

[@John-ko3rm]

When Morissey tells you something is "taboo" it's really taboo.

[@angeliquetavares5141]

Iyz card no empathy. Humanity. And fear of true and Who one is..

[@kikidee3204]

The west ham United of the rock world no punk without them xxx legends x

[@GrayNeko]

New York Dolls forever! !m!

[@lamper2]

2:45 I forget who said it-(I think I read it on a johnny thunders cd liner note)-" The Dolls opened the door, held it open, AND EVERY OTHER BAND RAN THROUGH IT!"

[@JoshDone]

I would place Badfinger and The Ramones in the same class as hard luck bands as The Dolls...........

[@Decimator-jh4gu]

JoshDone Yea...

[@SeanLozano]

and the Replacements

[@carolleslie517]

Definitely Badfinger!

[@meesalikeu]

i wouldnt compare it to the ramones at all. they died off after it was over.

[@marguskiis7711]

@@carolleslie517 Badfingers weren`t just unlucky, they made pretty well but its members were pretty depressive persons.

[@paulrobertsonmusic407]

I went to a Billy Bragg concert and he made my blood...BOIL.

[@paulsingh9043]

Streets ahead of everyone at the time!

[@BritishArrow]

im off to get the music of the new york dolls

[@jebkush1052]

7:37 Dank

[@tonypasma1707]

coool

[@7125Mhz]

Do what you want. Think for yourself.

[@sexobscura]

regardless of consequence

[@selmaunsley6683]

Moz has said some iffy things over the years, but absolutely right this time

[@jameschavez6400]

The Genuine Live Shows In Morrissey Is Evident By His Mouth&Eye Movement’s

[@frasermacdonald6614]

The universe looked at Arthur and said, "Ok bud -- life's been a disappointment to you, but I'm afraid it's time for me to take you. Oh, what the hell... I'll give you one last taste of the life you once had -- make it count."

[@gordonbgraham]

I saw the Dolls in 73...Kiss was the back up band

[@sexobscura]

also a pale imitation

[@ivandesantis858]

I'm always fascinated and surprised by who inspired the artists I really like but I don't remember the New York Dolls being that big a deal and I am by no means trying to disparage them or their work in any way but other than Morrissey I have never heard anyone really talk about them. Of course musicians have a much better ear for music than I ever will and they hear things I miss so I'll just chalk it up to that.

[@karlaj.4056]

Yeah. Ramones have talked a lot too about how much The NY Dolls inspired them. Specially Joey and Dee Dee Ramone.

[@ivandesantis858]

Thanks Karla . Loved the Ramones on first listen so I have some redemption

[@leahflower9924]

The Ramones inspired kids to start bands more, Ramones were sort of ugly they had old pants and shoes and they didn't do guitar solos thunders inspired the pistols but most kids didn't think they could be thunders

[@ivandesantis858]

@@leahflower9924 I believe your opinion on that is right. However I recently watched this show on HBO called Vinyl and the lead character had this epiphany after seeing the NY Dolls at some show.

[@Fuck_knife]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@philipdalton1000s]

I'm the New York Dolls of KZbin, hardly anyone looks at my channel, especially not my discussions, I get far more views on my shorts that I make of scenes from everyday life than I do of my discussions. I have had extremely few comments on any of my video clips.

[@shadowplay5363]

Morrissey totally nails it when he explains about those dreadful 80s hair bands that sold like 20 millions copies of every album. It must have been so frustrating for the Dolls watching those fake third rate derivatives cashing on what they were doing ten years before, only without the art, originality and realness.

[@animalblack8482]

morrissey's articulation is wnd to none

[@chrisbennett606]

grey matters meaning

[@animalblack8482]

oh my bad. typing too fast. meant "second" to none. thxs for having me clarify chris

[@chrisbennett606]

grey matters thanks

[@animalblack8482]

very welcome brotha

[@stew6662]

The New York dolls remind me of another band ahead of their time; The Pixies

[@rogerpeet7399]

I wish the best for these rockers.... who are they ?

[@MKRein]

I was also wondering why the New York dolls have never been really successful. I guess that one reason was, that John peel didn´t like them - and he was the most influential person for the success of Punk and New Wave - at least in Europe.

[@thewhoman3182]

Morrisey on the Smiths at 0:46-1:02

[@philipdalton1000s]

If he had never earned a wage from being in this band, what did he actually do for a living? Does anyone know?