Morrissey - The Ordinary Boys (Omitted From Viva Hate Redesigned Edition)

"Morrissey has opted to replace The Ordinary Boys with Treat Me Like a Human Being, a Viva Hate outtake released in 2011 as a B-side."
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LYRICS
Ordinary boys, happy knowing nothing
happy being no one, but themselves
Ordinary girls, supermarket clothes
who think it's very clever to be cruel to you
for you were so different
you stood all alone
and you knew
that it had to be so
avoiding ordinary boys
happy going nowhere, just around here
in their rattling cars
ordinary girls
never seeing further
than the cold, small streets
that trap them
but you were so different
you had to say no
when those empty fools
tried to change you, and claim you
for the lair of their ordinary world
where they feel so lucky
so lucky, so lucky
with their lives laid out before them
they're so lucky, so lucky
so lucky, so lucky
so...
SESSION: Viva Hate
ALBUM: Viva Hate - March 1988
SONG WRITERS: Morrissey/Stephen Street
Musicians on the recording were Vini Reilly (guitar), Stephen Street (bass) and Andrew Paresi (drums).
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[@jeffmorse645]

This was one of the best songs on that original album. Its actually one of the best Morrissey songs period.

[@AlsatianCousin]

Its definitely one of my favorites. Someone once asked me a long time ago......what my favorite song was and I named this song. Itszzz GREAAT!

[@forgivemejesus1409]

I agree, but I find alot of bside and non album songs are better than some a side and even some singles.

[@fightsforrights9744]

Such a beautiful song, my teen memories with my brother.

[@xnslrzn]

what makes you say this?

[@jonlacey316]

I agree 100 percent

[@CharlesFlahertyB]

My wife and I were at the same Morrissey concert about a decade before we met.

[@nolava88able]

I love the way he sings " in their rattling car".

[@aronlenaerts8549]

All the memories of being 14. Man, I love this. The Smiths changed my life 💛

[@paulgenta4819]

Icried for years listening to the music of The Smiths and the words of Morrissey. Lucky so lucky so...

[@alygator95]

Haven't heard this track in over 30 years, and can instantly recall the lyrics and feels. 🥲

[@georgebowles8338]

I sadly missed out on this feeling as when I was born it was just around live at Earl’s Court! This so is so basic lyrically but just amazing, i really like seeing people share these feelings!

[@kenpudsey6435]

Nostalgia is great isn't it?..when you hear a certain song that you haven't heard for years and then when you do,all those memories come back..where you were,what you were doing..who you were seeing at the time..Priceless!

[@thomasdef634]

I grew up in East Boston in the '70s and '80s. This song resonates.

[@VanirTraditionalist]

South Shore boy. Same.

[@adamh2900]

This song is a lyrical masterpiece 👍

[@drewdunn1823]

The cold, small streets that trap them.

[@AlsatianCousin]

It truly is!

[@adamh2900]

@@AlsatianCousin I'm from Aberdeen in Scotland. The imagery portrayed here - happy knowing nothing, supermarket clothes, round and round in their rattling cars - it describes so many people I've come across here with no ambition. Along with "Everyday is Like Sunday" this track captures the essence of life in a depressing small town immaculately

[@modsheff1]

what a Beautiful piece of music! x

[@decaffeinatedafrican5997]

you only think that because you love it you fool

[@pacu9]

Shout out to Vini Reilly whose subtle guitar stylings add so much to this album and especially this song.

[@genxtv4697]

This was my favorite song, too! Silly...

[@thewildmitchell]

This is so Smiths, it's brilliant!

[@AlsatianCousin]

He's BRILLANT!! A genius.

[@mrpentium]

Ahhh. But it’s not. Give credit to Vini (?). It wasn’t Morrissey or Street who wrote this music

[@TheElliotloveday]

I don't think Morrissey's voice has ever sounded better.

[@fwankman145]

Adam Loveday his voice is good on the world is full of crashing bores

[@mauriceholohan3355]

Genius.

[@estebansteverincon7117]

@@fwankman145 and Skin Storm

[@tinakolaweski4071]

My favourite Morrissey's song ....

[@AlsatianCousin]

Same!

[@Luke-Harno3]

Every time I listen this song I am always enchanted...

[@heyss9576]

One of his best songs. Why the hell did he not include it in other versions of "Viva Hate"?

[@sarcofaygo6218]

Because morrissey hates the world lmao

[@THESM1THS]

Ordinary boys live in blissful ignorance. We unfortunate Morrissey followers are doomed to a life of pursuing Truth and Wisdom.

[@gabriallavossli8659]

Unfortunately Fortunate of us eh?😉

[@Haasenpad]

i took a lot of courage from this song when i was young... nothing changed

[@joeljonsson6751]

sick down to my heart, well that's just the way it goes-

[@faunoram]

This song is even more relevant these days

[@mobbsmcg]

love this song. So many memories attached to it

[@markmatthews6291]

Morrissey love u.. This was my childhood..

[@315Bodhi17]

Thanks for these amazing lyrics! so lucky, so lucky with their lives laid out before them they're so lucky, so lucky so lucky, so lucky so...

[@maydavalle]

but you were so different ❤️ you had to say no when those empty fools tried to change you, and claim you

[@beelee9998]

This is such a Fantastic Song. It brings tears to my eyes that it’s not included on the digital remaster of “Viva Hate.”😭 To be honest, it’s the reason that I haven’t purchased the album on iTunes. Perhaps one day the album with it’s original track listing will be remastered for iTunes and available for purchase. Here’s to hoping.👍 I Love You, Morrissey.☺️

[@mu8554]

loved and still love this tune.it reminded me everyday what i wished to leave behind. did I?, of course ,with the help of music like this.

[@somosanahuakas5867]

My Favorite songs from him... silly.

[@colinabboud]

This song is unreal...so good

[@AlsatianCousin]

It's one of my favs!

[@davidserlin8097]

I used to play this song for my LBGTQ students. We’d read the lyrics and I’d say: your lives will be challenging and sometimes even difficult, but they will never be ordinary. So I was shocked to learn that this great song was jettisoned from the rerelease. What a bloody shame.

[@barkley8285]

thanks David

[@free322001]

That's nice... what did you play for your fat students? For your short students? For your ugly students? For your slow students? For your awkward students? For your weak students? For your poor students? For your students of colour? Or was it just the LBGTQ ones you identified with. See how the inclusion thing can go? By the way, there was no "+" on your LBGTQ list! You excluding +? But consider your virtue signaled, Dave, especially for telling us about it.

[@davidserlin8097]

@@free322001 What a lonely person you must be to exert so much effort on an unnecessarily aggressive comment. I hope you eventually find some greater satisfaction elsewhere.

[@mattstewart1637]

Thank you for being there for your students ❤️!

[@Anglo-Saxon-y4b]

Cringe🤢🤢

[@1000WinstonSmith]

It’s on my reissue of Viva Hate here in the UK

[@ctapaulo]

Nor in Brazil, unfortunattely!! 😢

[@mikeycbaby]

This is my favorite song on Viva Hate and i HATE it that I can't hear it on spotify. Moz Ive been a lifelong fan and I beseech u to bring it back xo

[@AlsatianCousin]

The first person to ask me what my favorite Morrissey song was, I named this song.

[@jelenanede]

One of his best!!!! Thanks!!!

[@jozefserf2024]

Even in 2021 he's still the greatest singer songwriter in the world. He's closing in on Dylan as the greatest ever solo artist.

[@markmanzo6711]

That's hilarious. He stopped being good in the 80's

[@mimi1578tube]

Why can't I find this on Apple Music! I need it. I miss it! This is why I never sold my record albums, tapes and CDs!

[@adamharris9904]

Just around here in our rattling cars ❤️

[@3rdWorldNola]

me listening to this in my rattling car.

[@advancedraymondology2914]

I know we're supposed to be all mad at Morrissey now, but the only thing I'M mad at him for is what he did to Viva Hate. The album IS the album. You can't change the tracklist 30 friggin years later. Did he ever offer an explanation? He removed "Ordinary Boys" and he totally truncated the ending of "Late Night, Maudlin Street." The original fadeout was amazing. ("Wherever you, I hope you're singing now...") I would love to know the mindset behind either of these decisions. It's really infuriating. The new version is what's on Spotify. If the videos get removed from KZbin, this song and the original verison of "Maudlin" basically won't exist. Yes, they are his songs, but these albums MEAN something to his fans. You don't get to just change shit. Imagine if a novel you grew up loving, the author decides decades later to rewrite the ending, and from then on that's the only version you can get. I don't really care about Star Wars, but I've heard George Lucas did something similar. Apparently he changed some scenes when he rereleased it in the 90s, and the only DVDs you can get now are the changed version. Do these artists not understand their work is IMPORTANT to fans?? I'm a writer and if I'm ever in a position where people actually know my work, I swear I will NEVER pull some shit like that. I guess Morrissey no longer likes "Ordinary Boys." Well, fine. He can choose to not perform it live or put it on compilations. But you don't get to CHANGE a work of art after it's been released, certainly not DECADES after it's been released.

[@mrpentium]

Well said Fred

[@enigmaticadventure]

He changed up Ouija Board too. Disheartening.

[@Loneboner]

He pulled a George Lucas.

[@renebascur4290]

jusr stop criying ... you have the original Lo or not? so you can listen righ from her now anda always.. spotiffy puafff... before a re edition theres another re edition expanded and re expanded once again you repeat HE ..HE ..HE . did you know theres a label a record company a market .. he is own company and make money on his own work. and pleasse don't buy a cristal rooftop ..maybe you became a old crappy man some day ..

[@kenkovar2647]

@@enigmaticadventure ha

[@nolava88able]

I have loved this song since the day I got this "tape" back in the day.

[@ashleyohohoh]

His voice is so so beautiful in this song. I could sleep to it. Angel.

[@AlsatianCousin]

I use to fall asleep to his music everynight back in 2014. 😴 💤🎵

[@MariaCalleSanti]

#Madrid #Spain I love Morrissey He took me to England with that marvelous accent,he made me fly 🕊️ so high! But I was not an ordinary girl ha ha

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

kinda defeats the purpose of having an expanded edition if you take out a song from it

[@kenpudsey6435]

Amir Pourghoureiyan -I completely agree,and he replaced this great song with 'treat me like a human being' which is bollocks compared to this!

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Ken Pudsey I don't mind that song but I'm a bit annoyed that this song's more or less erased from his library, it should have been kept with the other one being released as a bonus track like on the Bona Drag re-release

[@kenpudsey6435]

Amir Pourghoureiyan -yeah,on the 'Bona Drag' release,you got 6 extra tracks without the original being touched,he did the same with the reissue of 'Malajusted' he took off 'Roy's keen' which was a single,and got in the top twenty,my point being 'Viva Hate' was a classic album,you don't mess with perfection.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Ken Pudsey I'm still awaiting a full anthology of his songs

[@kenpudsey6435]

Amir Pourghoureiyan -an, anthology of his work would be interesting to have,and quite an extensive one at that!

[@johnwolcot]

I love the picture. I wonder if Bobbie who sprayed his name on the lamp post is still around?

[@mtzlflk5111]

happy going nowhere!!...

[@drewdunn1823]

In their rattling cars

[@drewdunn1823]

With their lives

[@drewdunn1823]

Laid out before them

[@drewdunn1823]

Just around here

[@thodeus]

I really didn't noticed it until I can't find it on spotify.. so I went here... wtf why omitted!

[@free322001]

Unique.

[@edgetaker]

What's even stranger - and I guess no surprise - you can't even get this track on iTunes (at least in the U.S.). They only have the redesigned edition. When I tried to click on a song listed for the original release, I got "the item you requested is not currently available in the U.S. store". So either you have to find a used copy, a friend who has it, or borrow from a library.

[@erickleppel2732]

why was it deleted? It's not on anything else which is unusual given the amount of repackaging he does. i always loved this one.

[@pythonbyte]

a far superior song to "treat me like a human being", someone had a brain fart in thinking otherwise.

[@free322001]

Omit THIS!

[@AlsatianCousin]

LOL!

[@mattharrison5068]

I quoted this song in my high school yearbook entry even, and you take it off the album? ...and the songs that saved your life

[@player-coach]

puzzled on why he took it out of the expanded version, brilliant song

[@johnpajak2442]

Reminds me of Sally’s Pigeons by Cyndi Lauper. This song came out first so her group may have borrowed some of the chord changes.

[@riseuplight]

Omitted, wow...

[@AlsatianCousin]

I KNOWWW! I NEEEEEED this song.

[@riseuplight]

@@AlsatianCousin it's a masterpiece

[@PD-jj4fo]

This is a better turned heir to the Jam’s Saturday’s Kids off their Setting Sons album. Ordinary Boys is a great song

[@Redhawk03a]

Why tf did he get rid of this song? Lyrics are amazing and melody is gorgeous

[@angelagak399]

'90s. After that, sadly...shite.

[@sunshinedesign]

Always in my life

[@labnine3362]

Not sure why Morrissey abandoned this song - it's not as dated as "I Don't Mind If You Forget Me". He really should have just left the album alone. It's really difficult to find the original release on vinyl without paying an arm and a leg.

[@marcosjoselimadasilva8822]

This is about people that just see superficial things.

[@v-town1980]

Why the hell did they omit this classic gem?!

[@arricammarques1955]

Working with Steven is seldom ORDINARY.

[@joakimlundgren7043]

unusual things sometimes dwell in usual places

[@christophe051]

Prequel to The lazy sunbathers..(?)

[@officialjohnsmith4127]

Who’s decision was to take this off the album? Unbelievable.

[@DH-uq1zw]

Every town in the UK

[@christophercrackers2493]

Even in Austin Texas in the late 90s my highschool was right out of this song

[@DarrellLEE-uw3fz]

Freaking Love Morrissey ✍🏽🤡🧐

[@AlsatianCousin]

Me too!!

[@MaxOoz-do2rx]

I was 25 so lucky so lucky

[@unloveableandre]

Change to 1.75 X speed. You are welcome.

[@sifarhad5636]

I was skeptical but it works. I wonder if a song starting at at 1.75 and slowing to the normal pace would be better kind of dragging him to the ordinary world. Seems to work best slwoing down on the the line "claim you for the lair of the ordinary world"

[@thodeus]

Interesting..👍

[@speakertreatz]

what?? that's mental, by universal acclaim the best song on the album, if not his best ever, replaced by a ..b-side? that can't be just a perverse creative decision, there must have been a business reason for it.

[@snowbelle74]

Might have been omitted to spite Preston from The Ordinary Boys? Ok not probable but certainly possible. As much as I love Moz we know he can hold petty grudges against people better than anyone

[@gilesdunn5728]

There is also a US tribute act of the same name. For what it's worth... I loved The Ordinary Boys. They had all the right influences..

[@jessewaughcom]

Why’d he omit it??

[@GersonRicardoPerez]

A track out of context in this time and age (i love the song as well and simply dislike remastered...anything) which i furthermore suspect would in some people eyes make him out as a blind racist. In other words i suspect this has to do with avoiding a potentially politically charged accusation thats he's had to defend and explain away. I understand the interrogation-esque interviews with hardball, steely eyed reporters misconstruing as is normally done with Morrissey/Media.

[@jessewaughcom]

gerson joel - Having lived in Manchester, I’m certain he’s referring to specific types of White people as ‘ordinary’. I think there’s some other reason for the omission of the song, though I fully agree with your point that Morrissey is constantly attacked by the media mislabeling him with ‘ists’ and ‘isms’.

[@ReubenWalton]

gerson joel does this song mention race somewhere that I’m not aware of?

[@AlsatianCousin]

Yeah, I agree. This song shows no racism.

[@ReubenWalton]

Alsatian Cousin I don’t know why anyone would ever even think it did.

[@sherkonia644]

Why was this omitted and replaced with an inferior track?

[@G.Lopes.96]

It is a crime

[@tobyritter6611]

can anyone please tell me where pub in the picture its located? Is it called the Queen Victoria ?

[@sifarhad5636]

It is the original set of the Queen Victoria from the TV Soap Eastenders when it was green not red. This soap is watched by ordinary people that Morrissey disparages. Of course is would not disparage the Rovers from the other big soap opera Coronation St from his beloved Manchester.

[@tobyritter6611]

@@sifarhad5636 Thank you! Very interesting and kind of puts a different spin in my head as I listen to the song. Cheers from Nowhere New Jersey

[@simonedgbaston]

My favourite off Kill uncle ❤

[@NEOMASS0]

Viva Hate

[@sarcofaygo6218]

Morrissey is Hated for Omitting.

[@ogfunk187]

he went a bit George Lucas there

[@waltercoyle6393]

Stephen Street was the second best thing to ever happen to Morrissey. His George Lucas-ing of this album sucks. In the book of analogies the entry for 'shooting oneself in both feet' would have an illustration of Morrissey with a shotgun shooting his two feet (Marr and Street).

[@sustainableREV]

Nowadays this seems a portait of young (ordinary) people that vote "for Britain"

[@sustainableREV]

@@free322001, no man. Fortunately we are living in democracies. If you like you may also vote For England. It's your own choice. Your own life

[@kenpudsey6435]

Yes he took this great track off the album and replaced it with the God awful 'Treat me like a human being' WTF?

[@maxmirror7260]

As if he’s standing in front of the queen vic instead of the rovers!!! Sell out 😂

[@donmackay7610]

I am Morrissey. No seriously... Not one of his somewhat outlandish and delusional fans. No, I am He And he is Me. Comprendo? 😐🇬🇧🇺🇸🇮🇱

[@joeljonsson6751]

Wowsers

[@donmackay7610]

And if you don't believe me Use your imagination.

[@joeljonsson6751]

@@donmackay7610 And if they don’t believe me now, will they ever believe me?

[@donmackay7610]

@@joeljonsson6751 As they say about Donald Trump: He sucks people into his orbit and bends reality according to his will.

[@unloveableandre]

Play at 1.25 speed. You are welcome.

[@lalalalalala8147]

I have no idea why this vanished from Spotify. Possibly because Morrissey took a lurch to the Trumpian fascist right, which is a travesty to his 80s career as someone who appeared to be intelligent.

[@MN-kp2lm]

He turned into a complete twat which really left me isolated from all those songs i'd loved in my youth. I've never felt good about listening to them since then. Such a shame.

[@wardochurchfan9166]

Blah blah blah

[@capitanlevi203]

progres

[@estebansteverincon7117]

I used to think this song was about Morrissey being jealous of the said boys and girls, for being 'lucky' but I've finally come to realize that he's glad he isn't one of them. Amazing!

[@P-Bass_Pete]

I hate that this was omitted from the remaster. One of my favorite Moz songs