Mortons Neuroma, 3 Instant Pain Relief Options at Home, From A Real Patient

Mortons Neuroma, 3 Instant Pain Relief Options at Home, From A Real Patient
Bob and Brad discuss mortons neuroma and options for instant pain relief.
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[@aidahayes7896]

I’m a board certified Pedorthist so I see this every day in my practice. The nerve that runs between metatarsal heads is being pinched so the worst thing for this condition is tight footwear, this includes tight socks. And of course high heels as it adds pressure to the area. So you must wear a wider toe boxed shoe (with little or no heels) than you are used to. Toe socks help separate the toes. The met pads you described are helpful as long as the shoes are wide enough to allow the metatarsals to separate. It basically pushes up and separates the metatarsals where the nerve is located to relieve the pressure. But the location of that pad is crucial. As you mentioned. A 3/4 length insole with met pads allows more room in the toes. A stiffer shoe or a front rocker helps to prevent pressure in that area, at toe off. So Birkenstock sandals, Haflinger house slippers, true “walking” shoes, hikers, cross trainers vs. “running” shoes are better since they do not bend at the toes. But I cannot stress the importance of the wider toe box. Tight shoes are the culprit!!!!

[@anitarussum4590]

Aïda Hayes ...AMEN! I’m surprised at him! Telling us to stop wearing high heals. He needs to go and buy new wider shoes!

[@aidahayes7896]

Anita Russum ha ha ... well high heels also put pressure on the metatarsals so I do agree with him there!

[@pcreel52]

I get “A Lot” of relief when I wear my “Oofos” flip flops. They are heavenly. They cost around $55.00 dollars. I buy them from a Store called “Lucky Feet”. They are a relaxer, Flip Flop. Not made for Shopping....but I shop in them all the time because of the comfort. They are a lite weight, black rubber Flip Flop. Two or three different styles and colors. For my work Shoes.....A wide Toe box is a must. I buy mens tennis shoes for that reason. Still dealing with DAILY Pain from my Morton neuroma : ( Pointy shoes were a part of my life years ago.

[@Ralph198431]

The older style Crocs have a wide toe box and are incredibly comfortable (newer styles are more of a traditional width and not as good).

[@marlynnek6449]

I wore a pair of pointy, tight-toed shoes ONCE and I've had problems for over a year now.

[@katiesdumbvideos5418]

Whenever I have aches and pains and search for help, I’m SO HAPPY when Bob & Brad have a video on it. 😊

[@roberth9650]

Hi guys, we want to thank you so much for this video. My wife has been suffering for months with this problem but after following your instructions she can now walk virtually pain free. A big 👍 from us

[@Hbd2002]

I wish more foot docs would design shoes especially ones for people with longer 2nd toe. Most toe boxes are not shaped like a natural foot, they gradually get more and more narrow so your foot gets squeezed

[@cesarmejia1900]

I have morton's neuroma, I use toe spreaders while I sleep and during the day I go barefoot or wear minimalist barefoot shoes and it's helped me 100%, no more pain.

[@californiahighdesertpreach2261]

I do all of that and I still have pain.

[@halcyon-cg2eb]

@@californiahighdesertpreach2261 Yeah, isn't it depressing when you read about the things that people do and how it helps them, and then you try it and it doesn't?!

[@DebbieTDP]

Glad it doesn't snow where you live. The moment you'll wear normal shoes the pain will return.

[@DebbieTDP]

@@californiahighdesertpreach2261 Get surgery. It's risk free and you'll fly and run afterwards. Personal experience.

[@californiahighdesertpreach2261]

@@DebbieTDP Thanks.

[@vanessajones9455]

Thanks guys. I was hit by a car at 16yo and lacerated my tendons and broke bones in my foot (Im 52 now) and starting to experience the pain. So these are very handy tips where I don't have to fork out hundreds of $$ on new shoes, to start my journey. Thank you (from Australia!)

[@Nan-59]

I had this!! My ortho doc sent me to the podiatrist. Didn’t tell me about things I could have tried!!! That’s why YOU GUYS R O C K!!

[@kennethmadore867]

it"s all about the money why they rather give you drugs and treatments only your insurance will pay for. it's the whole new twist to do no harm by not offering what can help you. giving you free advice does nothing for their pockets. that's the American health system unless you have above exceptional insurance with deep pockets.

[@gwynethgrove772]

Really helpful, I’ve had increasing pain from this for the last couple of years. Right foot more than left and some shoes are agony. But this is very good and I’m gonna try some of the ideas. .

[@denisevolmering5432]

I had cortisone shots but what really helped was toe socks and metatarsal pads everyday! I also wear wide zero drop shoes.

[@sharonmitchel1377]

Denise Volmering, do you walk much? I’ve had best success with wide zero drop shoes too. However, I’ve had a low back problem this summer. Now that it is better, I’m back to walking to a mile and now my Achilles’ tendons are both screaming.

[@denisevolmering5432]

@@sharonmitchel1377 I do walk everyday. My favorite shoe is the Altra Loan Peak 4 trail shoes. They have some nice cushion in them. Very comfortable! I just wish they lasted longer. Depending how often I wear them 6-12 months.

[@laurelrancitelli2271]

@Hoosier Googler I find ASICS has THE most narrow toe box of ALL!!!!

[@nhughes7872]

This is my game plan too!

[@michaelf.3846]

Cortisone shots for the neuroma is the shizz

[@dcat2004]

Great video! I ran my first marathon with it! Ouch! I made it to finish line at 3:24! I modified my shoes and no more high heals! 👡👠🥿

[@guesswho2390]

HOOOLLLYYY You actually answered my question about neuromas?! Thank you thank you thank you Merry Christmas!

[@deniselecompte]

Me too. My foot hurts so bad. I have stopped wearing heels but was still having a problem. Tried using a pad but obviously it was in the wrong place. Will try this. Wondering if you still had the pain when you wore something like sandals where you don't have the tight shoe?.... my feet still hurt but only when I walk for a while.

[@nancydiffee4312]

I have them in both my feet. The podiatrist wanted to do surgery. But I opted to try other things first. I went to KZbin and learned about KT taping. Game changer for me. I can walk most days with zero pain and some days with a little pain. When that happens I change how I wrap my feet. Bam, all good. I suggest you check this out also as the pads did not help me. Hope you find relief.

[@cindymarks5839]

I realize this is an older thread but can you please tell me the name of the KZbin video showing the KT taping for Morton’s Neuroma? Thanks!

[@nancydiffee4312]

I have tried this but not much relief. I then tried KT tape and wow, it worked amazingly well. It was a game changer. I recommend this to anyone who suffers with this.

[@tstarcher2001]

How would you tape for Mortons Neuroma?

[@mary-alicesullivan5671]

@@tstarcher2001 I'm curious too, to know how to apply the tape. Sounds like a great idea, as the tape has helped me in other ways too.

[@vivwilcock186]

How did you use the KT tape, where did you put it

[@NancyBradshaw]

I got wider shoes and still had the problem. Then realized it was my ultra comfy Bombas socks as they had too much mid/forfoot compression. Many sock brands nowadays had compression through the "mid foot", but many have slid that compression too far forward and will give compression to the forefoot instead. Make sure your socks aren't compounding the problem. Go back to socks without the compression band through them. Agree with the Met Pad and wider shoes. Nerve glides can also be helpful.

[@artandminisbyvilma8116]

Exactly the same experience with "Bombas". I fear they might have created some of my foot problems. And I used to love them.

[@RichardHartian]

Crazy if this turns out to be my issue - not sure, but the problem may have started around the same time…

[@natwinkel7790]

Could you please do episode on cervical stenosis? Would like to know exercises and stretches. Thank you!!

[@westermangolftraining3992]

Really good info. I have had a neuroma but have helped out alot by ensuring that my gait mechanics are better and that I am not externally rotating my hip and consequently my foot while walking. I also found doing some tibialis anterior strengthening also helped, maybe just coincidence but whatever works...thanks

[@typarsons9936]

I had this for months, I tried putting3pads inside my work shoes which are wider than my old work shoes. Took a few weeks but it’s a 1000% better. Thank you

[@glennalderton1313]

Once again you guys have come to my rescue! I thought my planar problem had returned but no it was Morton's Neuroma!!! Just tried your fix and relief at last! I swear to never try to start my dirt bike using bare feet again.....

[@vice8063]

Currently seeking a doctor to see if I have this! It hurts SO MUCH can barely walk some days and I’m limping when I can and as a nanny that’s not great! Just bought some pads so it’s nice to see I can use insert in the bottom lol thank for the video 🥰

[@motherhenn8850]

My husband got bigger shoes which helped a lot. He has also used toe separators - the kind used for pedicures and wears them in bed for about 10 minutes before falling asleep. It seems to help alleviate symptoms.

[@amycuaresma]

Very cool 👍 much appreciated friend Are you familiar with "PediPlast" a silicone compound that lets you fabricate soft, customized digital appliances? You can make toe cushions, straighteners, separators or protectors to treat hammer toes, overlapping toes, corns, bunions, even replace amputated digits. Would love to hear your feedback on this product? www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TK76W/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_Pr.KEbKBYRAH6

[@DebbieTDP]

Alleviating pain doesn't make the neuroma disappear. Sadly

[@Nan-59]

Hi Bob & Brad!! I love your show, not ONLY for the information you GUYS GIVE US, but for all the information we, in the comments, give to each other!!! You guys just have the very best followers!! I just love getting recommendations about things from regular ‘ol people like me! It happened again in this show. THANKS EVERYONE!! I sure appreciate you all!!! ☺️😄😊☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

[@helenkirk1130]

Morton’s Nueroma is excruciating- wear Birkenstock’s solved it for me

[@amycuaresma]

Very cool 👍 much appreciated friend Are you familiar with "PediPlast" a silicone compound that lets you fabricate soft, customized digital appliances? You can make toe cushions, straighteners, separators or protectors to treat hammer toes, overlapping toes, corns, bunions, even replace amputated digits. Would love to hear your feedback on this product? www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TK76W/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_Pr.KEbKBYRAH6

[@miguelarmillas4712]

Helen Kirk Do you have flat feet? I just started wearing Birkenstock’s to utilize the arch support.

[@marischwarz5730]

Birks are the best!

[@MOTO_DOSE]

I've been wearing insoles with metatarsal support for 4 months and my mortons neuroma has improved to the point that I can walk around my house barefoot without pain. Occasionally I'll flex my foot in a way that makes the nerve pop and burn for a second, but it is so much better than 6 months ago when I was limping because of the neuroma. I wanted to come back and share my experience and recommend insoles with the metatarsal bump.

[@DebbieTDP]

I don't have a metatarsal bump, I had Morton's neuroma and underwent surgery 3 years ago. Never felt better. Insoles wouldn't have worked for me, my neuroma was very big. We're all different.

[@MOTO_DOSE]

@@DebbieTDP well I'm glad you tried before resorting to surgery...

[@DebbieTDP]

@@MOTO_DOSE I didn't try. The orthopedic surgeon and my physiotherapist agreed. The insoles don't cure the neuroma. So I went for surgery as advised. 😉

[@Vimes.]

@@DebbieTDP Thanks for posting. Sadly I have a neuroma in both feet. Both are painful, the right more so. In the last few months of doing everything suggested, including special insoles, it has made no difference. My surgeon has noted them both, via scans. How was your recovery and has it continued to be good for you..? Perhaps just as important, how much did your neuroma bother you..? Thanks again for posting.

[@DebbieTDP]

@@Vimes. My neuroma bothered me a lot, the worst years of my life before I decided to go to the orthopaedic surgeon. It took me 15 days to recover, the first and second I stayed in bed at home most of the time. Then with my orthopaedic shoes (i bought 2, 1 bigger to host the right foot the one that underwent surgery, as the bandaging was quite bulky and one my size for the left one) and clutches adventured outside 😉😁. From the 5th or 6th day I used 1 clutch only, trying to shift the weight on the left foot. When the surgeon took the stitches, 15 days later, I wore comfy sandals for a week, then my beautiful new sandals and trainers finally pain free 😉🙏🏻 I did and still do some simple exercises, like trying to pick up a towel from the floor with my toes or simply wiggle them for a few minutes. Hope this helps. 🙏🏻

[@gailbolton4891]

I also have Morton's neuroma in both feet. I completely gave up high heels 20 years ago and eventually found shoes with wonderful support for my high insteps. It's very important that whatever shoe I wear has a really roomy toe cap. I have more numbness than pain and it feels like I've got squishy pebbles inside my feet which don't always provide good feedback regarding their orientation to the ground, making footing a little iffy and annoying. Thanks for addressing the issue and discussing those tips!

[@Nan-59]

Hi Gail My podiatrist recommends New Balance for having a large Toe Box. I was there recently for extremely painful, chronic feet 🦶 🦶pain. He really examined my feet alright!! Very throughly. I felt like I was in the specialized dentist, where the dentist calls off info regarding every single tooth 🦷 to a person writing down all the info!! Podiatrist said I need New Balance shoes in the 900 or more range because those have a heel!!! I HAD NO IDEA some tennies had heals! They’re expensive but I’m sure will be worth it!!

[@gailbolton4891]

Thanks, Nan, for the information. I'll take another look at New Balance shoes. But I think the key might be finding a podiatrist again and see if the agent more or other alternatives. It's nice to hear from someone with the same problem.

[@dani-dd3or]

Hi Gail! I have been dealing with MN for three years now and I’m desperate to find the right shoe. Like you I also have a high instep. Would you please give me the brands/ models of shoes that worked for you?

[@MuditaInstitute]

I had 2 x 10 minute acupuncture sessions on my neuroma and it reduced the pain by about 95%. I’ll try the foot pad too 🙏🏻👏🏻

[@petelinster7093]

I've had this problem for years. Sometimes it is worse for whatever reason. I am on my feet a lot and get over 10000 steps daily most days. some time 25000. I have had shots and after awhile that worked until recently. The condition has come back. I wear inserts and they seem to help. But sometimes not. We have a soft cush pad that is very supportive at the sink where we stand and rinse dishes etc. That pad is perfect. I need soles made of that pad. Yes I know nothing tight or restrictive around my feet. A big toe box to let my feet spread out does help. Thanks for tackling all these crazy issues we humans develop.

[@gillianm9367]

Have you tried using toe separators? I use a soft silicone gel one between my second and big toe and it helps. You may need to experiment with different types and some people use them between every toe. I use a slimmer one when walking and a thicker one at night. I also use a very soft, small ball which I roll around under my feet. I use one from the 'Melt method' hand & foot kit. I'm an avid walker but have cut back on my walking for a while to hopefully help the neuroma to heal. It would definitely help to have a podiatrist do a gait analysis and then make custom orthotics. I had some done a few years back for bunions and they really helped. I have an appointment to have a new gait analysis done as I have since damaged my second toe which has resulted in the neuroma due to the second toe 'drifting' towards the big toe when I walk. I also find Skechers shoes with air cooled memory foam to provide relief when walking around at home (instead of slippers) I think this will provide a similar cushioning to the mat you refer to. Good luck !

[@LB-vl3qn]

Alcohol injections got rid of mine. No regrets. Still pain free. ~ Lisa

[@Nan-59]

L B I’ve never heard of Alcohol 🍷 Injections!!! Is that with a glass, or a syringe!!? 😳😳😳😳😳😊😊😂😂😂

[@LB-vl3qn]

@@Nan-59 With a syringe in a podiatrist's office. However, if you have a low pain tolerance, a glass or two beforehand couldn't hurt. Seriously though, it's over in a couple of seconds and it simply kills that nerve. You can get up to seven injections, one per consecutive week, until it's fully dead. Mine was mostly dead after one, and I'm pretty sure it was completely dead after three. Totally worth it. I have zero pain there now. Look it up! ~ Lisa

[@slockhart1234]

This does not work for severe neuroma or stump neuromas (when the nerve grows back). The alcohol injections provide temporary relief, like the cortizone shots.

[@LB-vl3qn]

@@slockhart1234 Maybe. I had my neuroma for as long as I can remember, at least thirty years, and wish I hadn't waited as long as I did before addressing it. It was severe enough to be deforming my foot. From my research, the injections are more effective and are a better long-term solution than surgery, where the nerve tends to grow back faster and bigger, and with greater frequency than after injections. I had my injections over three years ago and have no signs of any regrowth. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Do your own research and talk with as many doctors as you need to before making a decision.

[@slockhart1234]

@@LB-vl3qn Well thank goodness something worked for someone! I'm def gonna do more research and consider👍

[@sl2608]

Just removing the insole really does not work. Shoes are too hard and uncomfortable without an insole. ALSO a good arch support is needed to take pressure off the neuroma. If shoes are too tight, maybe a supportive 3/4 length arch support insole/orthotic would work -- like a FootChair or Powerstep Pinnacle 3/4 length. I'm dealing with Morton's Neuroma now and have found that EXTRA WIDE shoes are essential! Also, if you are wearing tight compression socks, as I was to treat vein disease, that could make it worse or even be the cause. i had to switch to compression sleeves (footless, only covering ankle and above). The full compression socks were pressing the bones in my foot together which I suspect caused the neuroma, along with too tight shoes.

[@JxT1957]

i have morton's neuroma and its my 3rd and 4th toes in extreme pain not the bottom of my foot. i find alternating between an ice pack and running warm water takes away the pain but it eventually always comes back. i also find wearing bigger shoes or wide toe box shoes helps.

[@susannunez5160]

Mine is right at the base of my toes. Hoka 7 shoes help me. But I don’t wear them when I’m working with my horses. Wear inserts in my boots don’t work as well. But I’m definitely seeing a podiatrist.

[@akeleven]

I have Morton's ( 2 on rt foot) and I wear compression socks. I found that if I slice the top ( instep) of the sock lengthwise it relieves the pressure. You want to go lengthwise because if cut crosswise they unravel. First I tried cutting the ends of the socks off but they unravel and you have to wear another loose sock over it.

[@CathyS_Bx]

Compression socks are what caused my neuroma and I do need them for my legs. I'll give this method a try. Have you tried the toeless compression socks?

[@broccool2300]

I am just recovering from this. I couldn't even walk 2 weeks ago. Ibuprofen, elevation, and toe spacers worked for me. I think you only need one or two spacers at most but you also need wider shoes to compensate for the spacers.

[@bmp713]

How is your recovery going? Do you have any suggestions for helping healing? I started feeling tingling and numbness between the balls of my feet just below my big toes after running down some hills for a week.

[@broccool2300]

@@bmp713 I wear wider shoes and that seems to help. I always knew my feet were wide but didn't think it was a big deal because wider shoes are sometimes harder to find, but now I know I need them. Other than that I don't know and I am not a doctor. Just rest it and look into wider shoes and maybe toe spacers. I use a rubber toe spacer between the two toes closest to my big toe, and that also seems to work. But it won't work without the wider shoes.

[@bmp713]

@@broccool2300 Thank you for your detailed response. I have wide size 14 feet so its pretty tough to find good cushioned shoes with enough room inside. How much have your symptoms improved?

[@broccool2300]

@Tu Papi Hard to tell but that sounds like something else, like an infection.

[@broccool2300]

@Tu Papi Yeah, mine didn't swell so much but it was too painful to walk. The foot in complicated because it has so many parts, so it is hard to say exactly what it is without going to the doctor. I would ice it down and take lots of Ibuprofen. I would take twice the recommended dosage the first day then tapper it down. That will help with the pain and swelling. But I am not a doctor so maybe it is best to see a professional first.

[@PurpleWhirple]

Love your videos and advice but don’t think this is going to sort out a serious neuroma. I had neuromas in both feet and could hardly walk for several months until I had an operation to remove them. This helped for a while but unfortunately the nerve ending grew back and formed a stump neuroma. Not quite as bad as before but it still limits how far I can walk. Inserts and spacious shoes do help to some degree. Crocs and Birkenstock’s are more comfortable than anything else. Also bought some very good, but very expensive, inserts from Aertrex. These are probably doing the same thing as your home made pads. Bought one size over my normal shoe size to accommodate them, so there’s no extra toe pinching. I was also given exercises by a podiatrist to break down any adhesions in the foot that might be aggravating the problem, this helped quite a lot. As a basic description, this involves lying on your back, pulling your leg up to your chest and pointing the foot forward for 30 seconds or so, then repeat. It can initially feel worse but definitely helped me.

[@slockhart1234]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I had toe surgery on both feet at the same time 7-8 years ago. The surgery Alon with poor advice from the surgeon/podiatrist eventually caused neuromas in both feet. Long story short, had the neuromas removed by another greedy, shoddy podiatrist, now I have stump neuromas in BOTH feet. I've been going to a specialized center in the Boston area for ablation and platelet treatments. It has been a painful journey that has affected my quality of life. These podiatrists will keep recommending surgeries until they have you in a wheelchair. I now also where orthodics, metatarsal pads etc. I will be going to the clinic again next year, the treatment actually relieved pain permanently about 35%, going back to get more permanent pain relief probably about 65% which may not sound like a lot but with this debilatating pain is heaven.

[@dasgnsdjflbka]

Suziqheart I was “this” close to being put on the chopping block again by my podiatrist, so I got a second opinion. He was entirely wrong and I saved myself $5k and possible needless surgery and risk. The other doc diagnosed me with Morton’s neuroma. They want your $$$$. Don’t forget, if you go to a surgeon, they’re gonna recommend surgery.

[@jasonstone5022]

@@slockhart1234How did this work out for you? I have a consult in October for cryoablation with the same place.

[@cynthiaclaffey1522]

I have Morton’s Neuroma and the Oofos sandal (flip flop) is the only comfortable footwear I can wear, even was able to walk 5 miles on the beach, & the Oofos Oomg closed toed shoe for casual wear but haven’t found a comfortable hiking shoe so went to a podiatrist and getting custom insoles with metatarsal pads, but cost $500. Also just read that toe separators you can wear inside a wide toe box shoe, like the brand “Correct Toe” separators, help spread the toes and relieve pressure on the metatarsal pads so just purchased them to try them. Also read reviews that the brand “Yoga Toes” for toe separators while you sleep and walk barefoot around the house are good too. Ordered those and will try them. Maybe you doctors could do a video about what you think about toe separators for Morton’s Neuroma. I’d like to hear what you know or find about them.

[@denisevolmering5432]

The toe socks allow your toes to spread out therefore not crowding the toes.

[@amycuaresma]

Very cool 👍 much appreciated friend Are you familiar with "PediPlast" a silicone compound that lets you fabricate soft, customized digital appliances? You can make toe cushions, straighteners, separators or protectors to treat hammer toes, overlapping toes, corns, bunions, even replace amputated digits. Would love to hear your feedback on this product? www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TK76W/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_Pr.KEbKBYRAH6

[@sketchness8400]

My Morton’s Neuroma lasted for nearly 6 months. Living on my own with a dog was just the worst. Couldn’t walk or do anything and ended up walking on the side of my foot. I’d rather break another collar bone than live with that again. Still not 100% after 4 years as it still lets me know it’s still tender sometimes.

[@marshg18]

Ice helps. I bought inserts that completely relieved the pain by Powerstep. I bought wool metatarsal pads that worked too.

[@soundsignatures7574]

Same : I live alone with a 9 month Doberman X Mali. My neuroma is a catastrophe for her health, well-being and her training.

[@KatieJoMikell]

@@soundsignatures7574 I had a Morton’s neuroma one in each foot but I had to work so I did one foot at a time surgery and it’s been gone for many years now. I highly recommend that route.

[@KH-hr5xm]

​@@KatieJoMikell hi Katie. Did you have permanent loss of feeling in your toes after the surgery?

[@KatieJoMikell]

@@KH-hr5xm No not at all.

[@SunShine-000]

Thanks for the explanation. I have it with flat, hard shoes like Topsiders and Keds sometimes and always with tight shoes. Never knew it had a name! I have coped using various inserts that I position around the metatarsal area of my shoes and boots.

[@Maggiemae33]

Thank you so much! I have a dorsiflexed first wray and have been using various versions of orthotics. This was very helpful.

[@biancapowell7050]

My daughter has retrocalcaneal bursitis what can we do to release it. I took her to see a Dr he said cold compress and antiinflamitory meds Ps you guys are my go to people your videos have helped stay out of the Drs office for those little things that can be cared for at home . Thank you so much.

[@jennifermitchell1730]

I play roller derby and my skates have caused me to have this issue. Super frustrating.Thanks for the video.

[@kinga7362]

Same thing has happened to me, what solved it?

[@kristi8105]

Had to give up roller skates for good because of this

[@suesanders243]

Thanks for that. Can’t believe I have this and I feel so unwell because of it. That’s good advise.

[@susanbenington1566]

Thank you for the great suggestions. I will try the pad in addition to my inserts. Do you have any recommendations to deal with Morton's Neuroma intensified by ski boots? The boots must fit snug and not slip, but my feet can only take a few hours on the slope without pain.

[@idas6475]

That’s my very first memory (at 10-11 years old) of this - almost crying by the end of a day on the slopes because it felt like my toe was frozen solid with pain.

[@hwork50]

Ha! Thank you guys I can't believe you did this. I actually looked at your old video and that was helpful. Thanks!

[@zaspermonarch6144]

I did the cortisone shot which hurt like hell when he did it. Said I would notice a small shock when he inserted the needle. It was more like an electrocution. It took about a week to feel better and got progressively better for a couple of months but is now hurting again.

[@dasgnsdjflbka]

Same. They didn’t even warn me, just stabbed. It was a very unpleasant sensation but it has made 80% of the pain go away so far (4 days ago)

[@zaspermonarch6144]

Anna I can confirm 100% but it’s not going to last. I feel the Cortizone shot is a bit of a waste of money for me. Long term relief is a slow process. Orthotics. New shoes with more room at the toes. Sucks to get old!

[@dasgnsdjflbka]

Zasper Monarch I’m 25:( I had 6 toes on my right foot so that caused this, foot is too wide. Multiple surgeries. Doc is getting me a customer orthotic, can’t wait.

[@sevalsonmez96]

There are other techniques like alcohol injection or RFA.. Check them out!

[@lendrumzs]

Oh gosh that’s why I don’t want to have it. I gently tap on the neuroma area and I faint let alone a needle in there 😢

[@dabig77]

Thanks for the pain relief! I used a ace wrap and folded a bit to make a small triangle (find sweet spot) then loosely wrap around foot n ankle. I think I injured the N nerve when using Voodoo wraps healing a ankle sprain

[@DDRounds]

I like this without the long introduction. . . .

[@kristak1102]

My podiatrist advised a roomy toe box and the pads as well. Definitely worked.

[@shopnwoods9901]

I get numbness in that area. Kind of feels like my sock is bunched up when it isn't. Is that the same problem?

[@dianelopez8228]

Thank you! I will try these tricks.

[@Laymans-terms]

Keep up the good work, your different videos have helped me with 3 things already. I'm glad you guys re shot the video, this one's much better. I just finished watching your other one from 2015, and it's all out of focus and shaky in a bunch of spots.

[@anitabarra810]

Thank you. I removed the insoles from my walking shoes and now can walk in them without pain from the “rock” in my foot. ( That’s what it felt like. ) I had two steroid injections 5 yrs ago in my foot. I received about 6 months relief. I’ve tried the metatarsal spreading pads but that wasn’t successful. Being barefoot gives me the least trouble!

[@jocelynnham313]

Thanks so much for this guys!! The podiatrist made me feel hopeless 🎉 so this is so helpful! Have u found it to go away? They said once the nerve is enlarged its always there. My new $130 Altra shoes have helped some. But not much.

[@suegregory127]

Thank you so much for the information about using a pad on the bottom of my shoe insert. It made all the difference! I was so worried that I wouldn't be able to go out walking any more, but using a simple pad has stopped the pain! I'm really grateful.

[@DebbieTDP]

Did it clear your neuroma? I doubt it. It's a quick fix not a cure.

[@scotsam7590]

Thanks for this B&B. I get MN pain even wearing flip flops. I don't wear heels and all my shoes and walking boots are wide toe and roomy. Therefore, for me, it's not the interior space size, it's the insole and its shape. I'll try your DIY pressure pads. They look promising. Also, if a shoe is too roomy, then other problems are created as your foot slides back and forth creating calluses etc. Also, I have a theory that walking barefoot in sand is probably helpful for all sorts of foot problems. But I don't live near a beach.

[@DebbieTDP]

Get surgery it's the only solution. Personal experience. I now fly and run with that ex painful foot.

[@scotsam7590]

@@DebbieTDP Thanks for your input Debbie. Did you have to talk your doctor into it or was it advised by her/him? Also, how long were you off your foot? Sam

[@DebbieTDP]

@@scotsam7590 I went to see an orthopaedic surgeon after my doctor prescribed me x-ray and an ultrasound scan. He was very clear that insoles and the likes wouldn't work. I had 20 days recovery prescribed, after 15 days I was already walking with the orthopaedic shoe and no clutches. In 20 I was out and about wearing sandals (it was summer!😉).

[@KH-hr5xm]

​@@DebbieTDP thank you for sharing your experience Debbie! Did you have permanent loss of feeling in the toes of the foot that was operated on?

[@DebbieTDP]

@@KH-hr5xm not at all. My toes work perfectly!😁

[@zaktalentedandbravesaab9028]

Thank u guys u r allways so so helpfull God bless you 💖

[@ArtGirlJan]

I had lunch with cycling friends after a ride yesterday. So many of my friends know who you guys are. I sang the jingle and they could all jump in.

[@catherinecardoso5891]

I never really wore high heels, but have had various jobs that involved being on cement floors a lot. I have had the pain in the ball of my left foot for over a year and a half now. I had cortisone shots and even acupuncture which helped for a while, but now it is back even worse. My middle toes go numb, walking without shoes is painful, and it has decreased my activity quite a lot. I also have back problems and recent MRI shows L2-L3 L4 & L5 problems. I don't know what to do to help my foot get better. I wear really good shoes, even in the house (keep a pair for outside and one for inside) Orthofeet shoes have a wide toe box and are very comfortable but I still have the numb toes which is driving me crazy. It is very uncomfortable! Reading these suggestions are helpful and I am going to try the toe socks. I am hoping to find other ways to relieve pain in my foot so my life can be a little more pain free!

[@mariei2946]

Thank you!! This is so helpful. I cannot wait to try it!

[@melsterifficmama1808]

Oh...my...gosh! That's exactly what I have in my left foot! A podiatrist xrayed my foot more than 5 years ago and said it was a touch of arthritis and I would need custom orthotics very soon. I didn't go back, but first I started wearing lower and lower heels and this year I started buying shoes a half size bigger. I just got new hiking boots for Christmas! I have one more suggestion for people--wear flexible shoes. Those stiff soled shoes or hard women's platforms don't work for me anymore. I need shoes that bend with my foot, but protect my feet from gravel and hard floors. Are there any exercises that help?

[@khaleesid5285]

I had an X- Ray they show zero... If you have to have anything again...I had an ultra sound it showed some but not enough.. So had MRI and it showed everything 😊 X-rays are hopeless for so many things but they still palm ya off with them if can. I will only opt for MRIs now.. Plus no radiation.. 😊Well so they say.

[@artandminisbyvilma8116]

@@khaleesid5285 So true. X-rays are good for bone fractures, but show nothing when it comes to soft tissue. I always feel that every doctor should have a really great portable device for viewing soft tissue in the office. Does that exist? And if not, why don't they develop one?

[@cynthiaclaffey1522]

Thank you for idea of adhering the metatarsal pads under the insole. I paid $500 to have fitted custom made insoles with metatarsal pads. I suggest you mention and discuss or comment on custom made insoles with metatarsal pads. Thank you!

[@damonbaird1173]

My pain was really bad. Took doctors months to figure out what was wrong with my foot until i finally got an mri, i kept on getting injured and unable to walk for days. Ive changed my work shoe to something wider although i still get pain with tighter shoes. Thick insoles and wide shoes help.

[@damonbaird1173]

@@KoalaBeer. Time, along with bigger shoes with thick insoles really helped me. I haven't had a bad injury again but i can still feel the pain wearing unsupportive shoes (vans/chucks) You can also look into surgery to remove the neuroma.

[@johngrasso1622]

I also got it from road biking for over 25 years. Those sidi cycling shoes are very narrow and cause this condition. I’m going to try these tips and see if I get relieve. I also got a wider cycling shoe.

[@eleanordavidson7651]

Aw my life has been taken over by this bloody thing, I. Is being able to walk long distances so much so after seeing this video I've got a bit more hope that it can get fixed, only thing I'm angry about is that I didn't see this sooner as I gave a good few, brand new boots and trainers to my daughter-in-law as I couldn't even get them on my feet the pain was so bad, so massive, massive thank you 🥰

[@Kathleen253]

I buy orthodic insoles with a metatarsal and arch support, which basically does the same thing but a little more aggressively. Yes, high heels are a thing of the past.

[@zendogbreath]

Good lookin calves are hot

[@melsterifficmama1808]

@@zendogbreath good legs look great in low heels too.

[@zendogbreath]

Thats my point. Heels ruin calves. Hence flats are hot.

[@mickjager5974]

Wow I had Morton's neuroma for about a month now and finally looked for a video from you guys and just taking the insole out of my shoes (a couple pairs of Brooks that I wear every day and normally think of has one of the better brands) has made a world of difference in just a couple days! Thanks again guys!

[@themovingdance2744]

I see … the insole worsens it

[@DebbieTDP]

Morton's neuroma doesn't disappear...

[@MrsMarks]

I developed this from trying to squeeze my foot into too narrow a shoe.. felt like strumming a guitar string.. numbness then pain after removing the shoe. This is getting chronic for me but I will try your suggestions. Can you explain the feeling of a guitar string being plucked in my foot in that area? Is this a ligament/tendon and am I reinjuring it?

[@akeleven]

Morton's neuroma is a enlarged nerve. You are strumming a nerve

[@MrsMarks]

@@akeleven thank you SO MUCH for your response.. now I have a starting point.. beginning with better fitting PRACTICAL footwear. Again, thank you for your feedback.

[@Stewalebeth]

I have this and plantar fasciitis in my left foot. Have been following the advice from your plantar fasciitis video series and I’m now officially thinking I need to throw about 6 pairs of shoes away. 😅 acceptance is the first step 💪🏻

[@BobandBrad]

Exactly!

[@KathleenClark-wj4uc]

Love you guys

[@BobandBrad]

Thank you, much appreciated!! Love all of you as well!!

[@chickpearoyale8010]

"Mortons foot" and "Mortons neuroma" . Two different foot issues...two different Dr Mortons, bizarrely! "Morton's foot" is where the first metatarsal is shorter than the second. Like yours! I have one Morton's foot and one typical foot. The one with the mortons foot is problematic for running, as the toe-off overly uses the second and third toes. I'm getting more pain in that neuroma spot the more i run! I definitely need an orthortic or i fear i run the risk of it developing into a neuroma. Is your neuroma caused by your shorter big toes?

[@2corgimother]

Both feet are beginning to be numb after years of pain. Surgeon “ loosened” the nerve years ago.....did nothing for the pain! This is such a awful problem. I wear Birkenstocks and wide sneakers.

[@kmichaelewis]

Does this only get rid of symptoms or will it cure mortons Nueroma from coming back.

[@durragas4671]

I've been diagnosed with this and the doctor says they need to operate. I didn't really understand, with all these tricks to get it under control, does it ever go away, or do you just manage it so it's less inflamed and less painful over the years. I'm trying to decide whether to get the operation. Mine started this summer after cycling more than usual, and while the pain has gone away because I stopped cycling almost entirely (and even walking kept to a minimum due to my studies) the swelling is still there under the skin and it doesn't look like it's retreating (after about a month of rest). Walking for an hour makes the pain come back the next day... Thank you Bob and Brad, I wasn't surprised when another one of your videos showed up when searching KZbin for my problems.

[@ritabilotto1770]

Did you get the surgery???

[@petr7856]

Great information, thanking you very much!

[@ea4602]

I have Morton Neuroma surgery on Oct the 25 th . My wound should have healed by now and it's not. I'm wondering if I'm over walking in a boot all the time. My DR is the best, it's just not healing right. 😢

[@Nyelands]

It is not just caused by tight shoes, it can be because of immobility in your ankles and tight posterior chain that is the root cause. This means when you take a step your feet will be under pressure for longer. So really you have to work on your posterior chain and your ankles to get to the root cause.

[@mary-alicesullivan5671]

I was researching this problem online and came across a woman who saw a flyer hanging on the wall of her podiatrist's office suggesting three basic exercises to do and it solved the problem for her. She didn't say what the exercises were and I haven't found any info online. Is there any physical therapy for this?

[@karenimran3349]

I have this very painful condition. Mine is caused by an injury. I’ve had two steroid injections in ten weeks one under ultrasound . Got orthotics made by a podiatrist.my boots are one size larger and also wider. Nothing helps. I’m at my witts end with this. My arches also collapse (flat feet)

[@jeanhart9590]

Help!! Does this pain ever go away. I've done all you suggest with some relief. I'm going on 4 weeks.

[@Shuvah2Him]

I got good feet arch supports and they fixed it! INSTANTLY!

[@LaurenAltDel]

I'm 27 and these neuromas are ruining my goddamn life. Every dream I've ever had and everything I wanted my life to be is absolutely gone now. I've been hopeless and despondent since discovering what I have and researching it. It feels like my life is over. I've researched and researched and researched and I know about HOKAs and slides and pads and toe spacers and toe socks and injections and cryosurgery and radio ablation and surgery and so on. If ANY of you know of a support group I can join for this condition, PLEASE reply and let me know. I see a therapist but it's not enough, the mental toll of this condition is just tremendous for me. Thank you.

[@LaurenAltDel]

Well, almost 2 months later and yep, guess this is a permanent disability... welp FML. Gotta wear stupid looking HOKAs with everything I wear. Dress + HOKAs, jumpsuit + HOKAs. Gotta chop my hair short bc I can't stand for too long to wash, dry, straighten my long hair anymore. 27 and my life is down the drain woop woop. 🎉 I'll never feel good about myself ever again.

[@donnagee4201]

​@@LaurenAltDel❤❤ I feel the same

[@davidtukiko2545]

Hi Mr Bob and Brag What should I do to alleviate corn cap on my toe Please recommend

[@sharonmitchel1377]

Ok, I’m confused. I’ve had neuromas for 20+ years, or so I thought. I thought neuromas were right behind the 3rd and 4th toes. A podiatrist injected cortisone years ago into mine. My orthopedic foot surgeon recommended against the shots so I’ve never done it again. I’ve worn orthotics with a metatarsal arch in stiff shoes. Nothing works. The stiff shoes caused other issues! I now go barefoot most of the time at home and wear wide flat sandals or shoes outdoors. That’s worked the best for me. Not perfect, but better.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

I'm having the exact same problem in my left foot while inline skating. I need to find a way to offset the pressure point. Thank you!

[@adrinesterabadeyan6214]

Can you make a video about hip stability and what exercises can help with it?

[@TheJoogsie]

I've been dealing with this for about 9months now. much worse at night and i wake up finding myself stretching out my 2nd and 3rd toe , bending it forwards and backwards while digging my thumb knuckle into my foot bed to relieve the tightness in there. I add anti inflammatory cream to my feet every night so i can try t get a couple hours sleep. as this Mortons, is only one of my issues, I also have plantar fasciitis and the worst of them all i think is peripheral neuropathy. I have very wide feet, so maybe that has not helped with this Mortons? Certainly haven't worn high heel for 15yrs. I was wondering if perhaps there was specific stretches for it? or just go all out like I dream of and cut those feet and ankles off. lol , then wait for the phantom pain to arrive. Only joking ppl, i know I'm fortunate to have these feet, even though they are monsters. Hard to treat something that has multiple issues is all. Thanks Bob and Brad, our whole family love you guys and we always check you out for most issues. kind regards, julia Melbourne, Australia.

[@ps4402]

I wear a latex bunion toe separator on my middle toe with the separator on the bottom of my foot (sideways from how it's supposed to be worn). This takes all the pressure off the spot that hurts.

[@dogmom240]

I am going to try this

[@FallNorth]

I had a problem that MAY have been this for months, pain in ball of foot when standing. But my shoes aren't that tight? I had good insoles and oddly enough I've tried something a bit like what is in this video by adding height to the instep support: but way I cleared it was by putting in 3 gel pads where my foot lands in a pattern leaving a space (like a donut I suppose but it wasn't really a circle) where the pain was. THAT cleared it quite quickly and I have that in my daily walking shoes. I was ok for almost a year in fact I'd forgotten about it, though I have good support insoles in all my shoes. But in the winter there I switched to these sort of combined sock+slippers for warmth that have a cloth sole and no support at all, so ball of my foot was on the hard floor... and also did a bit of running in different shoes .. Problem came back very quickly, :( I've now proper slippers on and same idea, I've good insoles and cut a gel pad where my ball of my foot lands to have a gap where the pain is so all the weight is on the gel supported other areas of the ball. If I stand on it, noticably less discomfort.

[@elaina333]

Mine is painful and I need steroid injections. My podiatrist wants to remove the nerve. Can this be treated without surgery?

[@kennethward9530]

Would massage across and with the direction of the nerve bundle be advisable since the cause is (in this layman’s terms) scar tissue building up on the irritated nerve?

[@melsterifficmama1808]

Great question!

[@newblakestone]

I got a few problems. I’ll make it fast My pinky and 4th toe run into the shoe. This is a new thing from last October. It still hasn’t changed. It’s very hard to find shoes that don’t do this. Even when they’re big shoes my feet tries to find that corner of the Toebox I can’t find any shoes that work for me. I’m prob gonna go to good feet but they’re crazy expensive and I’m worried I’ll change my mind and they’ll not refund me for the shoes Idk what to do. Driving is horrible. I drive for a living. The pain is sometimes in the back ankle or the inside the the arch. I feel I’m developing multiple problems bc I’ve tried so many shoes

[@1benliam]

None of this worked for me. My is so bad my big toe is numb going on 4 months now. It Took that long to diagnose because mine is between my dig tie and second. Finally got a MRI to confirm because none of the Drs could figure out why I was in pain. This has been so much worst the plant or fasciitis!

[@sarahmiller8295]

How do you know if it's Mortons Neuroma or a stress fracture?

[@dasgnsdjflbka]

XRay

[@cardiosounds]

X ray

[@sandradavis9882]

I have pain in the underside of my toes on my right foot. Also pain in the arch area.

[@j.rleonard8269]

I am going through this right now and it's bad and I mean bad! If I am stand it's Oka, but as soon as I sit down and try to put my foot up and starts and it hurts badly. Once it starts only thing that stops it is standing up. Nothing I do stops this but standing.

[@kateelderson]

I spent 6 months in Crocs and since then use trekking sandals to spread toes. Can't tolerate oval toe boxes. Square toe boxes very difficult to find.

[@plantifulvegan4198]

Right!? Impossible to find. Look at the shape your foot then look at the shape of the shoe, they expect your foot to conform to an unnatural shape. No wonder there are so many feet problems.

[@vanillamom3939]

I'm a lady with really small feet. I buy boys' shoes. Lots more comfort in the toes.

[@unclejake154]

Great vid. Thank you.

[@archer8597]

I have found shoes with negative heels really worked perfectly for me

[@butterpecan9749]

What’s negative heel shoes? Flats?

[@archer8597]

@@butterpecan9749 hi negative heels are where your heel is lower - if you google Earth Kalso shoes you will see some examples

[@karenbackus1531]

I had that problem. I was on my feet at my job and felt like I was walking on a walnut. After a series of cortisone shots, I had surgery which fixed it.

[@kmichaelewis]

Are you still pain free?

[@karenbackus1531]

Ken Lewis Yes, pain never came back and that was 20 years ago!

[@kmichaelewis]

@@karenbackus1531 wow!!!! I am hoping for this same result!!!🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

[@halcyon-cg2eb]

@@kmichaelewis Hey Ken, I am contemplating surgery for Morton's Neuroma, as I have tried everything else, but nothing worked. Just wondering, if you had surgery, and if yes, how it went, thx : )

[@kmichaelewis]

@@halcyon-cg2eb I did not

[@markpinther9296]

must be the red dot that causes all the pain.. or the high heels.

[@marilynnshorey1142]

Would negative grade heals, like the wide toe boxed Earth Shoes I had back in the 70s help? I haven't seen that brand in decades. Used to wear them to work everyday.

[@novelist99]

I've had them in both feet for many years, probably from wearing high heels a lot when I was younger. In the early years, the pain would go away for long periods of time, but now, it's constant. In the worst foot, it feels like there's a balloon with a rock in the center of it. I'm now debating getting surgery for it.