Mosko Moto Reckless 40 vs Giant Loop Coyote vs Tusk Excursion: Rackless Motorcycle Luggage Shootout

[@DorkintheRoad]

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[@tombrewer144]

Yes more luggage comparison video's. Larger, smaller, tank bags, etc.

[@kjbetz]

Yes -- definitely!

[@moistoregon]

My vote is more comparison videos. Add in the Rhinowalk and any other cheaper brands as well. I have Great Basin, Sedici and the Rhinowalk have been the sweet spot for price and space motocamping for me

[@alozborne]

I have Rhinowalk panniers too, they have stood up to abuse, over thousands of miles, and I remain very happy with them. Great value for the money spent

[@leayoung3014]

Yes! More luggage info is appreciated! 22:26

[@907jl]

I recently converted from Giant Loop to a Mosko Moto Reckless 80, and absolutely glad I did. I don't find it the least bit "complicated", and it is so much more stable ie less floppy, than the GL, there's no comparison. For rough terrain, it's just a better design. Pretty easy to pack once you have a system that works for you. I do cook gear/food on one side, clothes/tools on the other, and tent/sleeping bag up top. If you're hoteling it, pop the whole works off the Knoblin and go. I love it.

[@coarsegoldkid]

I have the Mosko 80L Rackless setup. My biggest beef is that the holsters or the waterproof bags are not sized properly. If I were at the design meeting I would have lobbied for slightly larger diameter holsters so the dry bags would fit within when stuffed and still be called 80L system. The alternative to that would be a smaller diameter waterproof bag. The problem may not be so bad for camping but for motel use they are a PITA because you will need to put the empty waterproof bag in the holster then start stuffing in your items one at a time for each side. You can't slide a moderately stuffed waterproof bag in a holster no matter how hard you tug on the hand hold sewn onto the waterproof bag. In fact you may roll the bike off the side stand as my buddy did trying to get the right side put in. As mentioned about the 40L system they are heavy. Other than that the system is robust.

[@Euryheli]

@@coarsegoldkid agreed with my Mosko 80 as well. It is much better when they are dusty and sandy because it makes them slide in easier, but even then it’s entirely possible to stuff the bags too full to fit in. When I do pack off the bike I’ll leave the top open or just rolled down once, it lets things shift around when inserting into the holsters.

[@apiazza63]

Do you loosen the side straps on the holster before inserting the full dry bag? I’ve never had this problem but I loosen the holsters insert the full dry bag and tighten the holsters back up around the dry bags.

[@coarsegoldkid]

Yes. I also emailed my concern to MM and the response was put the dry bag in e 0:11 mpty then fill it.

[@Euryheli]

@@apiazza63 I do, and it is still possible to pack the bags in a way that they won't slide in with things loose.

[@deepspoke2201]

Have the Mosko Reckless 10 & 40 and the inner bag material gage is too thick to conform to the bottom when inserted. I just swap out the Mosko inner bag for a thinner gage Sea to Summit dry bag when I need to maximize storage volume.

[@Jp21577]

I went with Giant Loop as my first luggage. The discount available for BDR supporters, was a no-brainer. And YES! More comparison videos!

[@noahgolly4444]

Great video and comparison. I rode the COBDR on a FE350 with the tusk set up and I was nicknamed "floppy bags" for most of the trip. They worked, got me out into the mountains and I had a great time but a big, loaded drybag up high was not stable or helpful for aggressive riding. A year later, I then rode the AZBDR on the same FE350 with the Giantloop set up and had a much smooth experience. More gear in the legs = less weight up high. I even rode some proper marked single track with full camping gear and had no problems. I used the smaller GL dry bag for my sleeping bag only under the beaver tail, really happy with the set up. I considered the mosko bags but for the money, they seemed not worth it. The large legs of the GL Coyote, and the corners you get where the legs and the top meet make it super easy to pack and hold a ton of bulky gear!

[@Anath525]

I love the comparison on the luggage options. I am definitely biased, I have used both the Mosko Moto panniers and the rackless system and I love both. I tried Tusk once and I just couldn't enjoy it. At first the Mosko bags were a little confusing and frustrating with the buckles and sinching everything down but I have been using them reguarly for the past 2 years and I can do it in my sleep. They definitely cost a arm and a leg but rightfully so, you can definitely see the quality in the product.

[@arkansasoutdoorschannel1867]

If anyone is looking at or likes the Giant Loop please checkout the AltRider Hemisphere Rackless set up. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that luggage system. It worked very well for me on my UTBDR and COBDR trip. I also just let the holster system live on the bike year around so I never have to fuss with it!

[@ctjanney]

you're a freakin' mind reader, sir. I was just looking at what I was going to get myself in Jan, after recovering from the holidays. Tusk it is. I really appreciate these gear reviews! Thank you!

[@kenjisan7970]

I was very interested in what you had to say about the Tusk Excursion side bags as I used them this past summer on a 3 month moto camping trip in Europe. I’m glad you mentioned the restrictive webbing collar near the top of the bags as that was my main gripe with these bags. The dry bag liners that come with the bags are slightly tapered from top to bottom which is a great idea to help get them into and out of the panniers but because of the restrictive top webbing, you have to under-stuff the liners to get them to go down into the bags so you are left with wasted space between the two bag layers. You can basically fit half a baguette into the wasted space so I would save a couple of waterproof items to stuff into the voids after the dry bags went in. Of course when you want to pull the liners out again you have to pull the additional loose items out first so please TUSK, if you’re reading this, make that top webbing longer so the opening is wider which would match the shape of the liners and that would be awesome. I did like the beaver tail which I found to be well designed with lots of strapping options and it also has a small storage pouch for a First Aid kit or what have you. One other small gripe is that the strap locks for the bag lower anchor points slip a bit and have to be periodically re-tightened. Interestingly the strap locks for the TUSK tank bags have the same problem. In answer to your question at the end, yes please to do more reviews on luggage especially the soft luggage.

[@justmyself1000]

I enjoy all your videos....but I especially enjoy your comparison videos! Thank You!

[@zancaredler]

I have one kislux bag I got in 2019, it's the LV white catogram speedy. It's counter quality and it has a nice honey patina now, so the leather is real. I think whatever makes you happy go for it. I've seen LV with plastic leather and blood red glaze...

[@everyday3ah]

Yes more luggage comparison videos. This was very informative as a beginner.

[@ISPhotographic]

I’ve always been a Wolfman guy.

[@stevenbrowne116]

I have the Tusk Excursion with the larger top bag mounted to my BETA 500RS,works great for me. Built great, has the waterproof inner bags,and priced right. I would recommend it.

[@RoadRunnerTX]

I like the comparison content. Even though I don't plan to shell out that kind of money on gear anytime soon, it is good to know what to look for, what works and what doesn't, and all the little bits of insight you throw into your videos. Riding and camping in Texas is vastly different from the pacific northwest, but it is nice to see the differences.

[@biboandagape]

Thanks, good comparison. I've been using ENDURISTAN Blizzard XL saddle bags and Tornado M top bag for the last few years for long traveling (all Africa and South America). I can fit camping gear on the side, and my stuff in the top bag. All waterproof.

[@Rigatonispaghettioly]

Rhinowalk rear 40-60 liter bag and their 44 liter saddle bags have been solid. They’re both around 100$ and are great budget option. I’m also an Oregonian and new to the hobby. These bags are more in my price range (I’m 22 just getting into the hobby and wanted to keep a low budget). They match perfectly with my used DRZ400s, and I’m really happy with them. I daily my bike. Would love to see a review! P.S. I bought the Rocky Mountain gear when I saw you posted them on sale and they have been absolutely phenomenal in this rainy weather, thank you! Cheers from lake Oswego

[@michaelkrenzer3296]

I have done 12K street miles with the Amazon copy, Wild Heart, 55 L dry bag as my "all things camping" bag with no issues. As a 95% street guy, most of my bikes have hard panier so my mix is different but nice to have one bag to carry into (often) the campsite and all I have to go back to the bike for is the growler of beer until morning.

[@alozborne]

@@Rigatonispaghettioly Wow, you carry a lot of stuff! I have the Rhinowalk 27 liter saddle bags, along with a small top case (it's actually an inexpensive plastic toolbox) - together, they provide just enough space for all my camping gear, tools, clothing, etc. Groceries are a bit of a challenge, but whenever possible I buy food for one day at a time and strap that down to the rear seat. I find the bike is so much easier to ride offroad when keeping the weight to a minimum.

[@Rigatonispaghettioly]

@@alozborne just because I have all the capacity doesn’t mean I load it down, but having the option is nice. I daily my bike so the extra storage has been clutch. I’ll get Groceries n stuff on the bike too. But for Moto camping I use my backpacking kit plus some tools n motorcycle stuff. My backpacking bag is 55liter and fits my kit pretty good so tbh I could probably just use the top case for motocamping. Backpacking kit weighs about 20-24lbs all in w food and water.

[@JustLaineADV]

I use the Nelson Rigg Hurricane line of luggage. I have the rackless saddlebags and the panniers. Both systems are great.

[@wanderlpnw]

I used the Great Basin v1 for about 8 years. I'm a Mosko convert. I've run the Reckless 80 for a couple years. The nice thing about the Mosko is the flexibility if you want to hotel it, you don't have a lot of extra flappy bag like the Great Basin. You can push the bags in the holsters down and use no top bag. And of course the features are nice like the pods. I also attach a large water bottle holster to the molle straps where I can get to it easily. I just bought the small Nelson Rigg bags for dual sport day trips and I'm happy with that so far, too. It is really cheap and solid if you need a light dual sport setup.

[@scottwood1953]

I can't say enough good about my Mosko Moto gear.

[@apiazza63]

Spot on, camping off the reckless 40L requires a minimalist approach and isn’t for everyone. I only do it off small dual sports like 350-500. Any adventure bike and the R80 is plenty and fits the bike fine. I’ve tried the R80 on the 501 and it’s just a little too big IMO. RTWPaul has some good videos on minimalist packing though if anyone is interested in that. Riding light weight is nice.

[@saltydualsport]

Two years ago, I bought a motocamping luggage setup and managed to score a Mosko R40 system on sale for about $480. I had also been considering the Kriega OS Base with two 18L side bags, but ultimately chose the Mosko R40. Before that, I had been using a single 40L Osah dry duffel bag strapped to the rear rack, which worked fine for the time but wasn't ideal. As for my experience with the Mosko setup: since I already had a fairly compact kit, the R40 has worked well for me. My sleeping bag isn't the smallest-it’s a 15-degree bag, mostly down, from Cabela’s. In the two side bags, I can fit the sleeping bag, a 1-person backpacking tent, a Helinox chair, sleeping pad, collapsable table (travel bird), pillow, and a few extras like a pump. The non-detachable auxiliary pockets on my model are perfect for my tool roll, spare tube, and camp shoes. Between the top bag and my backpack, I can squeeze in clothes, my CPAP and battery, cookware (like a collapsible X-Pot and cup), food, a speaker, tiny pump, and even 4 beers. I DID eventually get the 22L singer top bag to expand the setup, and i think it is prob required for anything longer than a 1 or 2 day trip. Honestly, I’m not sure I’d be able to afford the Mosko R40 setup now-it’s pretty expensive. But I do love it, even though there’s definitely a bit of a learning curve when it comes to strapping everything down properly. It’s a little complicated, but once you figure out the right order of operations, everything stays secure. I haven’t used Giant Loop horseshoe bags, but I run the new V3 Mojavis on all my day rides, and those are by far the best setup I’ve used. Thats my 3 cents!

[@insatiable_mind]

Good comparison video! Always appreciated. I’m kind of a Nelson Rig fan, their hurricane line at least. Giant loop feels a little more rugged but I haven’t put either through much. The Hurricane designs just suit me better.

[@advredbikes]

Thank you, Ben for comparing both three set ups. I have the Tusk bags on my Honda CRF 250 L. I do not go camping, but I do use them for day trips and they take everything I need and yes, please add some more luggage videos as they come out with new gear all the time, thank you. Looking forward to your next video.

[@jnel57]

I have the Mosko Reckless 80 and your review is spot on . They are the Gold standard but easy access is not happening, a bigger top bag is necessary for long trips. These bags have proven to be almost bomb proof

[@joseaguirre7517]

I think that! Mosko is simply the best!! I've got both ! For my long and shorts trips! I tried others and actually I now wouldn't chage them! Mosko is awesome!

[@lukefish7562]

I want the Mosko. About to get Tusk for the Honda dual sports. Gonna get Mosko for the ADV bike when I have more time to take off and motocamp more. Nice job Dork! And YES we do care about luggage BUT I am literally about to buy my first after just using the ones that came with my Norden Expedition and honestly you told me about all I need to know comparing these sizes. That being said I’d still watch any others you make.👍🏼 😆 🏍️💨

[@sunnyvalejedi]

I’ve been stuffing my bag, fly and tent directly into my Mosko bags. It makes them a little more flexible and easier to pack.

[@losing_myself]

The Green Chili Hardcore Enduro set up for me. I got one of the older ones that have the tire irons with it. I can run whatever bag I want depending on the ride.

[@Euryheli]

Chewie!!!! Thanks for the video, I’ve got the Mosko Reckless 80 and GL Coyote. To me the GL is easier to pack and feels like it holds more than the numbers say. The Mosko with multiple places to stash stuff is just harder to pack and feels less efficient. The Mosko is also really heavy. Mosko feels a bit sturdier but I haven’t been able to hurt my GL stuff, so I don’t know that one or the other is tougher.

[@magarj]

I have used about a dozen different setups over the years, I now have both the Coyote and Great Basin from Giant Loop and that's all I have used for ADV in the last couple years. Weight and capacity are the primary reasons.

[@matthewlee8917]

I've got the expedition from Tusk and I've been happy so far. Many trips over several thousand miles and an embarrassing number of falls. That being said. I've got a broken strap... But def worth what they are charging.

[@alanwalls3117]

Excellent review. I like simplicity so have GL Diablo and Coyote.

[@outsideguy3633]

Great comparison info! I have the MM Revolver 80L with the 2 AuxPox. Got it for its reputation of bulletproof durability and the beaver tail. The beaver tail is super useful. Ben is spot on regarding actual capacity being limited in these multi bag set ups. You will travel light -even with an 80L kit. The MM value proposition is based on quality and durability. Case materials, Buckles and straps are heavy duty. And outrageously expensive. Regardless of what kit you use I encourage you to zip tie rolled up straps into the keeper that comes with the kit. An unraveled strap can cause big problems.

[@bmwe30guy]

I too have broken a couple buckles on tusk. So I purchased reckless 80

[@479_adv]

Mosko Moto got a customer for life from me - after the Colorado BDR my Reckless 80 side and top bag were stolen. I called Mosko kind of heartbroken and asked if I could order just the dry bags and told her what happened. They made a warranty check for me and sold me the replacements for basically half price.

[@479_adv]

+1 Inspiration Point for saying "Bag of Holding."

[@dmitrio.193]

Thank you for the competent review! I would love to see a review of the larger versions from these brands. Tbh i think the 40L is a size that's neither here nor there, overkill for daytrips and not enough for any extended trip.

[@roberttowery9664]

I have used Gaint Loop, Wolfman, and Mosko bags. Wolfman was my first, very crash resistant, and they worked well until the arthritis in my hands made it difficult to buckle. Gaint Loop was second, and I can not say anything good about their bags. They worked decent in hot weather but in cold, nada. I really don't have any good memories with those bags. I run Mosko now. The 35L on the AT and T7, and the R80 on the CRF300. They work well with my near useless fibers, strong as hell, easy to pack, and the support is awesome. Let's see a tank bag comparison

[@rtrevellyan]

Would love to see rackless Kriega vs Turkana. Love the channel!

[@shortbusdog]

Kriega doesn’t get enough attention

[@adventurod]

I love my Turkana setup!

[@Haytifdad]

Bought a 21 Bros product a few years ago based on Pavlin's (Motorcycle Adventures channel) recommendation. It was significantly less expensive than the coyote and genuinely waterproof. Shipping took a while, but it was well worth it.

[@lifesjourneyat50]

Nice job...I'm such a Mosko Fan never tried the others...good mix!!!

[@Jukithesuzuki]

Hey! So the Tusk bags are pretty decent in my experience. I agree with you on them being an entry level bag, however..... I use the Tusk Traverse bags for my EDC essentials (tool kit, repair kit, spare tube, TP, and a chair). Those bags are I think 8L each. I have roughly 9000kms with them on my bike (maybe 6000 offroad). They have taken a few spills too. Back to the Excursion bags. I have not busted any buckles, but I've also devised a method where it actually bolts to my tail rack, the normal side straps go to my footpegs. It mounts rock solid. Everything else is true. I hate the way the roll top and the base of the bags are connected, it makes it very restrictive on what can actually be placed into the bag. I find that the stiffness also hinders the packability. They were roughly $600 CAD (not quite). They were what I purchased for my first motorcycle (DRZ 400S) 2 years ago. So a total newb, both to motorcycles and everything that goes with it. That is all. Merry Christmas!

[@randywilliams4325]

I had a giant loop Great Basin bag on a Honda xr650r for years . Only complaint was getting into the bag after it was packed . Hard to find things . I welded some oval chain links to 3/4” strap iron to make tie on points . Made it faster to get the bag off and on.

[@yooper42985]

Great video as always! I’ve been using the GL Great Basin on my DRZ for a few years now and it’s great. Truly cavernous. Durable. A little bit of a pain if you want a particular item easily accessible while out riding. I can see how the Mosko and RM setups could be better for this.

[@addictedtobedrock5282]

I ran the tusk on the ORBDR this last summer and it worked great. All of my camp went into the 22l top bag and hung my water and fuel off each side. The luggage worked good and is priced fairly. Mosko moto is just crazy when it comes to price and I personally won’t buy their products. I do own a giant loop tank bag and really like it and I would consider their luggage. Thank you for the comparison. 👍🏻

[@lornebaxter4640]

yes i liked the comparison video. I would like to see more of this kind of video. Often people who are not in the gear retail industry, have no way to get out and see the different products. It would also be great to see the Wolfman, and the Green Chile setup in action

[@scottbohannon5860]

I have the Tusk set up. I ended up getting a Medium top bag so I have plenty of room. I have been very happy with the quality and performance. The side bags are a challenge getting my sleeping bag and tent in but it works fine. I think the Tusk is a good value to get started with. I have always wanted the Giant Loop set up and may go with that next time.

[@JohnDavis-ol7qg]

I have a set of Tusk bags I used for my old Royal Enfield Himalayan. I just installed them on my brand new 23 Triumph 1200 Tiger GT Explorer I bought on a clearance sale for $16900. Yes, a $24k+ manufacturing retail price bike for less than $17k. I want a tank bag since I need a fuel cap lock type and looking at a SW Mototech. I'm trying to go through your channel. I do this often. Love the channel

[@ducfan9546]

Only used Giant Loop and it’s all been great! FWIW I’ve never paid full price. They seem to have a 20-30% coupon or sale pretty regularly. That makes a big difference.

[@sriinvestor100]

Thank you for this comparison. It is at a great time for me as I recently purchased my first motorcycle (used dual sport, thanks for the advice on that as well) and hope to get enough seat time to try overnights in early spring.

[@DualSportDuffer]

First off, thank you for doing this video. For sure do the comparison videos, with a shot of all the gear that is to go in. This kind of content is important as most of us have no place to go physically compare these options. I’ve been in analysis paralysis for a while now when it comes to what will be my (ahem) second luggage purchase. I’m looking forward to your next camping adventure video as well, I think maybe it’s been awhile since y’all have cut up around a fire. 😊

[@GregLanz]

I have the Mosko Reckless 80 that I bought during the previous Black Friday sale and I love it. It is indeed a bit of a process to setup and it didn't seem to hold as much as I thought it would but I loved how secure it was. 4,500 mile trip this summer from Calgary Canada down through Portland, northern California, Crater Lake, etc and I barely could tell it was there. It never swayed or moved and the only way I could tell it was there is that I had a bit of a backrest. I am a fan of Mosko Moto and have a number of their products and I've been very happy with all of them and to me they are worth the price. That said I've never tried the Giant Loop, Tusk, or any other rackless bags so I appreciate the comparison. I did look at the Tusk and Giant Loop stuff before buying the Mosko stuff but with the sale the price differential wasn't as much as normal and I just found the Giant Loop to be way too ugly to seriously consider

[@davidblanchet749]

I have the Giant Loop great basin, Possible Pouches, Rouge, and Tillamok bags. They work like the Dork said! I highliy reccomend them. More luggage comparison would be awesome

[@Kingofthepnwdorks]

Something I noticed going from the Mosko to the giant loop coyote was that, while I appreciate the single pack idea, it’s almost worse if you want to be able to have things separated while being easily accessible. I’ll go back to the Mosko (or maybe the tusk idk) at some point but the giant loop has been solid. Only downside is it’s not as adjustable being one bag, and it doesn’t pack down as neatly when empty. But that’s addressed in the video. Honestly my only gripe is it doesn’t come in orange anymore.

[@soilsmanadv6673]

I looked at the price difference between the coyote and the greatbasin. I spent the money and bought the greatbasin. It holds way more than I want to ride with on my bike. That said, if I get a larger bike and want to go on a week trip it will be perfect. Thanks Ben.

[@jwaller1327]

I can say, before watching the video, Tusk works best for me due to price. I don't want to know how much better the other stuff is! I'm happy with the Tusk right now.

[@intrigue175175]

BAG OF HOLDING!! You Dork! Love it! I have the Great Basin from GL. Workes amazing.

[@DerekJBush]

Always look forward to your videos!

[@armored-clown]

I have the newest Mosko Reckless 40 bags with the Aux pods on my KTM 500. Your assessment is very accurate from my experience with them. Extremely high quality stuff, the best tbh. But I have to pack as if I was an ultralight backpacker with very compressible camping gear to make everything fit properly. My total added weight to the bike with the bag weight is 51 lbs. My set up is probably overkill for 80% of riders 😂. But since I ride almost exclusively off road it’s necessary for me.

[@pauljames1762]

Have tried a few options over the years. Started with Rhinowalk 30l and 20l as they were cheap. The tusk stuff works out expensive over here. Looked at a couple of different horseshoe designs. I also tried the Kriega US40. I liked the beavertail and knoblin on the mosko. With quick release hook mounts my latest set up is super fast to mount. Which leads me to it. I'm using the viking bags set. It's a straight copy of the mosko 80 v3. I've fitted the knoblin. The 22l top bag is good but I toured Europe this year with the Kriega us40 as the top bag. The viking bags work out loads cheaper than the mosko once you factor in taxes over here. They are a pain to pack big items. But I love the beavertail so handy. It is a big bike setup though.

[@BigDaveTALKS]

yes, the buckle system on the Mosko is a bit daunting at first. I have the Back country 35L and the Rackless 40. I regretted the purchase at first because it was so involved getting in them. After using them it is now a non issue. I am a minimalist and the rackless 40 was just perfect for my UTBDR trip this year. I was thinking about the Coyote, but I will hit up a hotel and getting them on and off is way more involved than Mosko. Mosko is very pricey, buy once cry once is spot on for me in the luggage catagory. I have also used SW Motech and the semi hard bags. Now those are awesome and If i sell my mosko that's what I'm getting next. The quick connect/disconnect is very solid and the racks are more eye pleasing than the normal tubular racks. Great vid, thanks for the different perspective and sharing your knowledge.

[@timesink101]

Really enjoy your product review videos. You do an excellent job explaining the pros and cons. Would like to see the large/small review. You mentioned the Mojavi, it fits great on a Tenere 700, nice and snug to the sides allowing you to keep the daytrip/emergency gear you have off of your back. Haven't had a chance to try the Coyote yet, will test it on the top half COBDR bottom of WYBDR this summer.

[@MotoCocoTV]

Hey Ben, definitely more comparison videos! Also in this video, it was a little hard to hear you when your pitch tapered off, then bam a new sentence was loud again lol.. just a note...love all your stuff! I have mostly used excellent mosko items.. amazing quality but I too feel I need to pack exactly the same way.. and my big sleeping bag struggles in the side panniers as well as the large 40 litre duffle .. strange.. if you have bulk items, a bit tough agreed... recently sold the nomax tank bag, I prefer a open style tank bag.. I recent.y purchased a few possible pouches from GL love these.. and obsessed with the most underrated tank pockets from GL..love those too. I also purchased super cheap crash bar bags from Amazon they are excellent for the price..

[@Austin.TaylorAdv]

Yes more luggage content please. Large bags and tank bags please

[@cosamuel7182]

Cool. Now do a video with a detachable system with a base like the kriega OS-base or Green Chilie soft racks. I have the Mosko R80 kit and love it. You busting the buckle on camera here (and good on you for not hiding that) reinforces that Mosko is a solid kit for me. Mine has been bomb proof for big bike ADV and road touring. I think you undersell the difference in "beaver tail" features here. I think the panel on the Mosko kit is really useful. Makes getting at smaller items much easier but is still flexible enough to hold large items too. The beaver tail sold the Mosko kit for me. At the same time the beaver tail is the biggest drawback. Mostly in that while I can detach the tail and run with just the legs, that isn't how I want to ride. I want the opposite; to ride to camp, drop the side legs and ride with just the tail with or without a top-bag for a day ride or grocery run. You can drop the side bags, but the holsters are permanently part of the kit. Same story with the 40's. This has me looking at something like the Kriega or Green Chilie next time around.

[@ApocalypseNouille]

I run the Kriega setup and love it. You get a great quality set of luggage and bags that can be swapped on the OS-Base, giving you the most flexibility for any trip with a good amount of bag configurations. You can use any one of the OS bag sizes you'd like - they come in 18, 12 and 6 liters sizes, which you can mix and match as needed and strap onto the base and/or crashbars - you can also complement with the expandable 28-40 liters rackpack if you need extra space. It is solid too, I've dropped and dragged the bike multiple times and for multiple seasons on them, and the only damage I've had is one cracked buckle tab, the buckle still works as it should. They are also completely waterproof and easy to mount/dismount for hotel stops, I highly recommend!

[@create323rogue]

I'd love to see the kriega setup as well and how it stacks up

[@BacktrackADV]

Thanks for the comparison Dork! I have two Mosko systems. Love them both. BTW… that sleeping bag looks more like a car camping bag… not a true backpacking bag 👈🏼😁

[@cameronb1907]

Yeah, I like this one. And I would be entertained by a review of the bigger bags as well. I don’t know that I’ve seen anyone else do a comp comparison of the three. As for my experience, I started Moto camping around 2015 maybe, and I’ve always been on a 400 or 450 dual sport. I started with the coyote and use that for a couple years until Mosko Moto was about two years old give or take. At that time I ordered the reckless 40 and did a test loading my gear. But I tend to pack about 60 L so I sent it back and got the reckless 80 V2. I’ve been running that ever since. I always had a hard time zipping up the coyote because my gear was a little more bulky back then. I also have a duffel bag that I used as well on my rear rack. Once I kind of learned my system on the Mosko set up, it was pretty easy to pack up, and I felt like things were in a consistent location. On a related note, on my KTM 450, I had to build a bracket for the left side of the bike to keep the bag from swinging into the chain and swing arm. It actually worked out really well in the end, but took some doing. My whole theory on going with a larger bags is that I would rather have an 80 L system under packed with the weight lower in the legs than a 40 L system overpacked with more weight up high. Plus then I have some additional capacity for a trip to the store for supplies before heading to camp.

[@chrisparker8235]

Great video. Yes, more comparisons please, especially throw over type. I have a set of the original wolfman enduro throw over bags. They have been used and abused and are still good. But they will die at some point, so it would be nice to have some options to replace them.

[@gregggorman6197]

I love love love my Mosko and their awesome team.

[@PiGnarSquared]

Green Chili scramble rack with some bag snakes is awesome. Use whatever bags you want. Put a waterproof duffle on top and you’re gone.

[@Zhaganashi]

Yo I’m so glad to see you do this review! 🙏Glad you have that GL experience going forward. I started with the new Mojave on my WRR. It’s great for 2 day, but wished I just saved the $ for the Reckless 40.

[@scottjones9670]

Great comparison! You may want to find a smaller bag though, my Nemo Disco 15 long packs down to 14” long x 7.5” round in its included stuff sack.

[@sorenmelchior]

Great comparison on luggage. I myself am using Giant Loop Mojave bags, bar bag, and just picked up there larger tank bag (to try out this coming spring for carrying camera gear). They have done well for me for day use for the last two years (sans the new tank bag that I have yet to try). On a slightly different topic I would love to see some comparisons of backpacks for us larger girth individuals that ride. To include hydro backpacks or just storage variety for driving too and from work.

[@gabbymadsen7260]

I'd like to see more, but I'd also like to see you branch out from the big three and look at Rhino, Shad and other options. I know the Shads are Giant Loop priced, but the Rhinos are a budget option.

[@GregLanz]

I've been quite curious about the Rhino walks as well, they look great and are really cheap in comparison

[@gabbymadsen7260]

@GregLanz I have a tail bag that's 30L and I like it so far.... but it's the first bag I've used that has a lining for waterproofing. IDK how it compares to the others like Krieger or Seidi.

[@-SLOTH]

Chewie looked less than enthused at the Mosko set-up, as was I after I saw the price. I wanted quality, and was going to purchase Mosko. GL has better sales out there. If you wait for a good sale (Black Friday, Etc.) you can get into the Coyote (Giant Loop) set up with a Rogue bag topper for a song and a dance. The value & quality with Giant Loop cannot be beat. I have used Giant Loop for many moto-camps without fail. Even though some feel a re-design is in order, GL is still a very functional & useful product. Call me biased, but it's Giant Loop for the victory with me.

[@rockmanADV]

Mosko tail bag is all you need!

[@silverado5325]

I have owned all three. The Tusk does not have the volume it says it does and is impossible to load correctly. The MM is way too heavy and gimmicky and expensive, the Coyote is light, is often on sale and my choice. It does need a better way to mount in the back. 100% agree with Ben on this one.

[@KLRmurdercycle]

My GL Coyote is from 2013. Pretty good shape still. Little seam repairs. I'm pretty satisfied with the Coyote spooning the Mojave, and leaves the KLR rack for my milk crate😉 I've thrown away the seat buckles and run a strap through the bag and attaches to the frame under the seat. The factory attachment points always would come loose with trail rides. Never moves now. Kriega has some unique attachment opions, especially for dirt bikes. And Enduristan is interesting options too. I've been seeing Rhino products popping up everywhere now.✌

[@dustydualsport4366]

@@KLRmurdercycle When you say the Coyote is spooning the Majave, does that mean you are mounting both bags at the same time? I assume the Mojave goes on first and then the Coyote over the top of the Majave? That is an interesting solution I haven’t seen, but I can see in my mind how to do it. How has spooning the two bags together worked when riding? I’d like to hear more about this.

[@KLRmurdercycle]

@dustydualsport4366 ya..the Coyote is right at 5he back of the seat. Strap it in first then, the Mojave. Your half arsed sitting on the Mojave, and the straps are looped at the frame next to the brake master. But standing or leaning back it's out of the way, because the Mojave is low. One side carries a front and rear tube, zip ties, some tools. The other side is for snacks, water bottle. Eveything else fits in the Coyote. Scaled down my whole kit to back packing gear. A thermacell in with my camp chair gets strapped with Coyote beaver tail. I really don't know what brand I'd go with nowadays, the prices of everthing has gotten out of control

[@CSpringsloomis]

Tank bag comparison would be great! I'm trying to decide on throwing more money at the Mosko Moto tank bag or keep the Tusk.

[@DualsportDMAN]

I used the Giant Loop bag (the smaller horseshoe one) and it fit all of my gear great... However I'm a pretty aggressive rider, and on my KTM 350 (with a full rear rack), it didn't mount the most securely. It didn't matter how tight I made the straps, it kept sliding around. Great bag, but I didn't love it. I ended up using the Nelson Rigg hurricane dual sport bags ended being perfect though! It did turn my setup into a three bag system, but they were plenty wide enough to fit everything. My sleeping bag, sleeping pad, camp shoes, tent, a chair, camp kitchen, and all the other things too. They cling tight to the bike and don't move around at all. When run empty they have side compression straps that suck them down tight and keep them from hanging out. I crashed on them too and slid for a good 15 feet. No damage at all. Giant Loop cactus canteen lashes to the bottom side perfectly too!

[@LETerEATRenne]

Just picked up the tusk excursion bags used for a whopping $50. Currently haven’t used them but am going to get out soon for a winter excursion (pun intended) to test them out on my big red pig. I figure even if they aren’t what I’m looking for, they’d still be good value for a one time use at the minimum.

[@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures]

I have tried a couple bag setups. One was a cheap amazon setup 24 + 24 +40 top bag to do as you said to try it out. The second was the GL Great basin. The GL was better built and I think I could get more in because of how they wrap around. The great basin not great to get in and out unless you know what you might want and pack to the back which is what I did. I did this a a 2020 CRF250L, yea it was overloaded but never complained (that gets fixed soon!). The problem I have with this bike is that the muffler stick way the heck out and I thing the coyote would be better . You have stated the coyote points more forward like the other two in this review and might work better on this CRF250. That being said I hit Mosko's dirty bird sale and picked up their 80L paniers and a rack. The Mosko Moto stuff is probably the most rugged but it is heavy and regular price is really high. Love to ride with you sometime maybe some day, you seem to be the most fun guy out there lol. Thanks for the reviews! Chuck

[@waynetaylor5637]

Yes, review the larger bags

[@craigd.3453]

Definitely an interesting comparison. I went with a used set of backcountry 35s but that adds the weight of a rack. Seems like Tusk is great to try it out but keep an eye out for used gear of the others

[@zatara300]

The Saturday I’m getting my mosko 80l in the same color than u and I’m so excited about it

[@marcberland5951]

Great video. Next time also throw in the Kriega OS system

[@wesbell3628]

I need someone like you or Ian to do the Nelson Rigg Hurricane Adventure Dry Saddle bags.

[@Michael_Shay]

I think it's worth noting that the R40 does not have the rear fueling hole, the R80 does. Unless they updated this on the R40 without taking new product photos. I bought my R40 v4 a few months ago and it does not have the fueling hole. It's a little annoying at fuel stops but the gnoblin makes it less annoying. With the Perun Moto Rack(with extender plate), it's possible to mount it and still have fueling access. Personally I don't because I want the weight to be as centralized as possible. One thing that is nice about Mosko is the modularity/parts. If they do add a fueling hole to the R40, I could just buy that part and then replace it instead of buying a whole new setup and selling the old one. Same goes with other wear items. I doubt I'd go through the effort anyways. As far as modularity goes, I like that I'm able to run a 22L tail bag instead of the 12L one that comes with it. Although there's an argument to be made that if you're gonna do that, it might be better off to just get the 80L and not use a tail bag, which is also possible with the modularity. I do agree with Ben on the narrowness of the side pods. I was actually a little surprised one I got it in person because I wasn't expecting the narrowness. It ended up being okay though, my entire sleep system fits in one of the side pods + a little extra space(not much though). An important caveat though is that I do use somewhat Ultralight gear, but not stuff that compromises heavily on comfort or is insanely expensive. I do use a quilt(Hammock Gear Economy Burrow), not so much cause of weight, it's mostly cause I sleep better using one. It's custom, it cost me ~$250 a few years ago when I bought it, I think it'd be ~$300 now. My tent(Durston Gear X-Mid 1p) is not a glorified tarp or a bivvy. It has a full bug net, is double walled, has big vestibules, and it fits my 6'3 body. It weighs 2lbs poles included and costs $300 poles included. It also doesn't use super thin materials. The only downside to it is that it's not freestanding, so site selection requires a bit more effort. That also means if you buy it, it doesn't come with poles because its intended to be used with trekking poles. However, they make little fold up carbon poles, which is what I use and is why I said "poles included" for the price and weight. That said, the same company just came out with a freestanding tent that weighs 2.1lbs and costs $370(I probably will be selling my old one and getting this). I know none of these are cheap, but their Ultralight competitors that are less durable typically cost well over $500. I know this might read like an ad, I'm not affiliated with them. They're just a small business and they sell really good products for a price that isn't insane. Most UL tents save weight by taking their existing tent design, and then using thinner, less durable, and more expensive materials. Durston Gear's stuff is still relatively cheap because they came up with a simple(but genius) design that saves weight through design without compromising on space/materials. For sleeping pads, I use a Nemo Tensor UL sleeping pad, which is expensive. I only have it cause I got a really good deal. My previous one was a cheap inflatable one that worked fine. I don't use those ultralight foam pads, they're just not comfortable for me. The other reason why the narrow pods are fine for me is that I don't use stuff sacks for my clothes or sleep system. I know the CEO of Mosko is the same way. Some people don't like this, but the reason is that stuff sacks/compression sacks act like little bricks and they leave gaps with unused space. Whereas storing stuff loose means you fill in all the gaps, you just compress it down. This comes at the cost of organization, I've got one solution to this that helps but this comment is already pretty long. I still use stuff sacks for misc items like bug spray, sunscreen, chargers, etc. But that also applies to the GL system, and I could possibly save even more space with one if I wanted to. None of this is to say my way is superior. Everything is subjective and people have different levels of desired comfort. I'm in full agreement that ultralight snobs can be really annoying. I'm a camp to ride person, although my sleep system wouldn't change much the other way around. Personally, I think my setup does a really good job of being light while being comfortable. I mostly just wanted to leave this comment to say that there is "ultralight" gear that isn't extremely expensive and uncomfortable.

[@shortbusdog]

One thing you forgot to say about mosko is how impressed your friends will be with your purchase.

[@bwnco]

I use a 2 bag ,like saddlebag system from(spellin) seducci.. water proof..2 20 liter bags. Then i use my back pack forbag 3 istrap betwwen the em works for me so far. I'm new. But I wanted a soft rock system I didn't want to rack sticking out for when I just went on day rides. You can also pull them apart and just use one bag if you need to. I think I'll buy one more 20 this spring and I can still use my backpack on top of it yet but I got plenty of room.

[@joewehner9837]

Yes! More luggage videos. Kriega please!! 😁

[@boulderwheelies]

I have a very old GL Coyote (the one with the zipper closure) I have used for maybe 10-12 years, maybe longer? I use that bag on dirt bikes for lightweight moto camping trips. It's been great, but strapping additional things to it, like a fuel bag, will work but at times it is not easy. The newer version has better expandability than my old one but I have not used the new version. It bounces around a little bit because of my tie down options but it never moves out of place. I recently bought the Excursion system for my 701 and I have to agree; the 3 separate 3 bag system is a bit wonky. It can be difficult to pack and the side bags are not that big. One thing you did not mention that I really like about the Excursion though is the "platform" it creates over the rear fender/back of seat. It is VERY easy to strap other things to it and it stays in place really well. I have not had the issue of broken straps yet, and my Excursion seems well made.

[@tonyraca]

How about a review of the next lowest price point, Rhinowalk 28L and 48L vs these three? I have a set of Tusk Pilot panniers, but next trip I'm giving the Rhinowalk bags a try. You can definitely notice the quality difference, but for the price point if they work it's hard to beat.

[@RollModel724]

The Giant Loop is just a better bag. I hate spending lots of money so I have been using Rock Bros and Rhinowalk until I got the coyote used. What wasn’t mentioned was how sturdy the Giant Loop material was. The one space makes it easier to pack but it does come with three dry bags to go inside. There is a lot of MOLLE straps to add other bags. And “looking outdated” really just means “retro” or “old school” for tried and true gear.

[@Th3HoIIoW]

I currently have a 24 T7 and have been researching soft luggage for commuting maybe some off road adventures at some point. Mosko 40 and coyote kit have had me interested but haven't wanted to pull a trigger.

[@jelicoe]

I want the Tusk highland comparison. I also like loadout videos. What all fits in the bag??? Lay out every thing you pulled out of the bag in one view.