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If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ American Murder Hornet Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/american-murder-hornet-bluepri?product=227 The Donkey almost had me there I almost got into the turn fight with him, I have to admit I'm kind of liking the I-16 more and more I might mess around with it a bit more. Thank you for watching and Big thanks to Eightball for helping with his video.

[@HéctorGarcía-j6n]

Mosquito vs Fly

[@Andy_XT]

Hi GS. I wrote basically the same things, but it was an old video of yours that I commented... I hope you read this one. In Pacific Fighters (20 years old IL-2 game that I really loved) there were a bunch of beautiful fighters that I can't seem to find around nowadays: F4 Corsair, Seafire and Ki-84 being my favourites, but also Hellcat, Ki-46 (it would be very similar to the I-16, but better, I believe), Ki-61, A6 Zero and many others. Any hope to see you in a corsair anytime soon? Thank you and congratulations, both for your skills and your videos!

[@toxaq]

GS: it’s the ego checker… Eagle dynamics: Why are sales of the I-16 going through the roof?

[@tonyrun5802]

Likely to happen imo

[@mrblablablabla]

I loved flying the I-16 in IL-2 1946 online against 109s, especially the one with cannons (type 24?). Most guys would severely underestimate it and I would drive them crazy turning outside their gun angle. I learned a thing or two about evasive flying that way. Lots of fun!

[@eg395]

“It’s not the size of the dog in the fight. It’s the size of the fight in the dog.”

[@slowhornet4802]

F-14 leaves the chat

[@Max-yf5sj]

-Sun Tzu probably

[@bigblue6917]

Trouble for the big dog is that the small dog is just in the right spot for your 'soft underbelly.'

[@bigblue6917]

@@Max-yf5sj Not often Sun Tzu mentions dogs.

[@eg395]

Lol

[@nazurimen4578]

F22 vs p 51

[@termid_]

Please

[@TheBigCracker]

Yes

[@ruehl3853]

Bruh we all know the p51 will win not even worth doing this 😂

[@randomrandomnesss2188]

It’s time

[@sameerrawat3595]

Instead lets just fly f22 alone results will be same 🤧

[@draleigh8881]

that ending shot where you can see through the bullet holes on the wing is badass.

[@jwhoward182]

The tactics GS used on the Kite is exactly how the Germans took it on. I could not fathom why the P-47 didn't use its 100 mph advantage in the same way the Mosquito

[@Coluchiy84]

А он и не использовал преимущество в скорости. Он использовал преимущество в скороподъёмности, которого у P-47 не было. Толи это какое-то условие таких дуэелей, толи наслоение привычек из поздней реактивной эры, но разрыв дистанции на этом канале я вижу редко. Upd. Глянул в компарь - я не прав, у москито со скороподъёмность даже немного хуже ситуация. Это именно удержание большей энергии за счёт климба на больших скоростях, где у И-16 уже начинаются проблемы. Это должен уметь и P-47. Почему не использовали ни это, ни разрыв дистанции - загадка.

[@jwhoward182]

@@Coluchiy84 Хороший момент. Правильный P47 должен был использовать скорость для разделения, а затем подниматься, чтобы совершить пикировую атаку.

[@razorback20]

My thoughts exactly. Should the P-47 have been flown that way in the previous video, the outcome may have been entirely different... Also, the fight started at a higher altitude this time, just where the Jug's turbocharger may start to kick in.

[@AbsoluteyAmerican]

I was going to say this too. Also they didn’t do a merge, GS started at a higher altitude for this dogfight. I like GS but I do think he sets up some rules or parameters to give him the best chance of winning. In the P47 the pilot never used its speed advantage and went into the two circle but never broke it like any smart pilot would do and accelerate for their speed advantage to then climb away and dive down again once the donkey lost its energy.

[@AbsoluteyAmerican]

@@razorback20 I agree with you. I like GS but its clear he sets rules or parameters to give him the best advantage at winning. They didn’t even do a proper merge he already started at an altitude advantage and naturally kept that energy advantage. Also the p47 kept trying to turn fight which any decent p47 pilot knows stay straight stay fast and use ur speed to pull away and climb to then repeat your attack. So definitely think it was a little set up for a better chance at a win.

[@abhaypathak5347]

I-16 Dogfights Su-57:Finally a worthy opponent!Our battle will be legendary

[@hawkertyphoon4537]

The I-16 is fabulous in the right hands.

[@mikethompson2650]

I have always thought, nearly 70 so been around awhile, that the I-16 was the fighter version of the Gee Bee racer.

[@pellew26warspite6]

A very well executed attack. Great restraint to the desire to hunt the “donkey” down.

[@oktc68]

Never has the sense of relief been so tangible in a KZbin video!

[@BlessedT]

Could we ask you to start adding the HOTAS input graph to your videos (I mean the one under RCtrl + Enter)? It would be a great learning source to see how you deal with all the maneuvers, your rudder work, etc. Would be great to see how you behave in energy draining situations.

[@andrewbranch4918]

I love that little ishak she is so aerobatic. You have to watch the tendency to snap left in a tight turn but otherwise a stupendous dogfighter 😁👍✌️❤️

[@kcmsterpce]

I didn't know who to root for. Based on the previous videos, I have a liking to BOTH aircraft. Fun video. Thanks for sharing.

[@youthere7327]

boom and zoom is so frustrating if you are on the other end of it but it also is if you are doing it and you cant quite get guns on the better turner

[@Slamboni4k]

The donkey is personally one of my favorite WWII planes - if you get the height advantage on someone, it’s almost a guaranteed victory. Alas, that is its own downfall.

[@ajaxmaintenance5104]

A twin engine propeller driven fighter can rarely turn with a single engine aircraft. They discovered that when the P-38 losses began to mount in the European theatre against the Luftwaffe’s fighters.

[@ExiledPiasa]

The I-16 is a nasty little rattlesnake. Disrespect it and it will strike you like lightning.

[@therealErmo]

I don't even need to have watched this to know how it ends..

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

You would be surprised though... :D

[@danmallery9142]

You avoided the mistake the P47 pilot made. Do. Not. Dogfight. an I-16!

[@SCYTHE2525]

What a beautiful plane design.

[@roijoi6963]

Some time ago now, but IIRC, the Mosquito started out as a 4-engine design, but when the designers started looking at all the stuff they'd need to brace the structure for 4 engines it just got impossibly heavy and slow. They had an epiphany though, and started taking things away from the design, pretty quickly transitioned to a 2-engine design and kept optimizing away until they had a really brilliant design. Elon Musk would have loved that design team, as he uses the exact same process. Paring things down almost always results in a virtuous cycle in design. The Viper and the F-16XL are both excellent examples as is the A4 - whose retractable gear didn't even fully retract bc to do so would have interrupted the main spar, so they just built a speed fairing and left the wheels to stick out a bit. At any rate, it's a real pleasure to see how exactly all those design decisions helped create a legend, and exactly how brilliant the design was in action. I always liked that the twin-boom designs, like the P-38 Lightening spread the weight across the lift of the wings, reducing the demands on the wing structure dramatically.

[@SCYTHE2525]

@@roijoi6963 And if what I read was true, they deliberately intended from onset to create a nearly all wood plane due to metal shortage. And I seem to remember reading that they put quite a bit of balsa wood into the design as well as ash from Europe, Douglas fir from northwest America and sitka spruce from the west coast. Sitka spruce is still considered by many guitarists to be the premier wood for making acoustic guitar soundtops. And also that they weren't expecting pilots to fall in love with the plane. Apparently it was a joy to fly yet had one of the meanest bites on the battlefield.

[@blahblahblah23424]

was half expecting one of those pieces to fly back up and start chasing you

[@avramnovorra]

Gotta respect the I-16, it can still hold its own indeed.. also, one lesson i've learned watching Growly fight is never cross your foe's nose even after you've dealt the killing blow.. great fight once again!

[@dioad1739]

Just imagine what a p-61 black widow would do but they were mostly in the pacific theater great video GS.

[@troygroomes104]

There was 7 squadrons of P-61's in the Italian theater, 4 in Britain in 1944

[@fraserhenderson7839]

The P61 (aircraft of my dreams) is the same size as the B 25 Mitchell bomber and has 1,000 lbs higher dry weight. I don't see it as a winner in daytime combat with a front line fighter. It wasn't made for fair fights.

[@troygroomes104]

@@fraserhenderson7839 it was a night fighter, and the first dedicated night fighter capable of being a night fighter bomber, and did attack a few luftwaffe airfields in late 44 early 45 from bases in Britain and cause significant damage to a few airfields rendering them non operational and forcing the luftwaffe to retreat from said airfields

[@BeingFireRetardant]

P-61 Black Widow. The most menacing, ugliest, and somehow simultaneously maybe one of the best looking aircraft ever made. Followed oddly enough, in that order by the Beaufighter and the AD-1 Skyraider... The fugly girls know how to punch correctly.

[@troygroomes104]

@@BeingFireRetardant I flown in an AD-1/A-1E skyraider

[@svenblau]

those exhaust fires on the mossy look quite hilarious

[@animal9432]

When you fight a plane that does not have your speed and but is more maneuverable, you use airspeed and altitude to win. You don't get into a low energy dogfight.

[@plainnsimplme]

For all i know this donkey was the best in the world when it was introduced with a long of first ever list, its not a bad plane at all but the world of aviation was evolving very fast

[@tedarcher9120]

I-16 is the first airdynamicly unstable fighters, like all 4th and 5 gen fighters

[@peterruiz6117]

"A-HAAAA !!......JUSTICE....I think....." Great job. That is how you should mostly deal with between the wars planes that came out of the biplane era. They TURN . Another plane, as such, you might look at is the Polish mono-high wing that is armed with 20mm cannon...Don't remember the name. But Germany did not roll over Poland as easily as history claims.

[@kofeMW]

PZL P.11c and later P.24.

[@DerredmaxTRIAX]

The donkey is basically a GeeBee fast and really unstable, 2 things that make a great fighter and don't forget he can smell you!!!

[@tomhighway1952]

If I'm not mistaken, the -18 version of the I-16 was armed with 4 .30 caliber machine guns, but the -24 version was armed with 2 .30 caliber machine guns and 2 20mm cannons. The -24 model could do some damage if it gets a hit on you. Be interesting to know which version is in DCS.

[@Hornet135]

Apparently the one in DCS is the type 24 which just had 4 x 7.62 machine guns. The type 17 and 27 and possibly others had 2 x 7.62 and 2 x 20mm. Supposedly the extra weight hurt performance so they weren’t built in large numbers. It would be nice to have the option of using a model with 20mm cannons in DCS though.

[@suntzuwu]

Seems like the I-16 would be a great subject for a Merch jersey or hoodie!!

[@roijoi6963]

...only if no never, ever, ever want to get laid again

[@JohnBeauchemin]

Dude your reaction time on the guns is nuts

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

They take ages to open up when squeezing the triggers...

[@FusionAero]

From afar, the Donkeh looks like the Russian Brewster Buffalo, until you realize you're actually fighting the Russian Zero.

[@Blazo_Djurovic]

It's basically a biplane masquerading as a monoplane. Since it is basically an I-15 in monoplane configuration. And that thing is even more manouverable than I-16.

[@markstott6689]

I had an awful feeling at the start that the I-16 was going to be a lot more troublesome. Thankfully I was wrong. I 'm enjoying the Mosquito coverage very much. Thank you.

[@iRichardi]

Imagine doing that in early Bf-110… that thing was a menace in early phase of Barbarossa

[@tinymonster9762]

Lord but that Mosquito is a thing of beauty.

[@deyx18]

Would be sick to see a fight between the Mosca and a Bf109 :)

[@jameswilliams1085]

Such honesty and respect.

[@lancet.346]

I think fabric skins lack enough strength to detonate HE rounds. Cannon shells simply punch a 20mm hole then go on to transform some poor cow into a pile of salsa. Maybe this is is factored into the damage model? Just wondering... Thanks for another great vid!

[@jbepsilon]

AFAIU while the Mossie had fabric covering on the wings and fuselage, the fabric was draped over plywood sheeting which formed the main "skin" on the aircraft. Control surfaces were fabric over aluminum framing though. I'm not sure there is that much difference in setting off HE shells vs. a traditional WWII all metal construction?

[@Robert53area]

@@jbepsilon think the same problem happened here with the i16, notice the 20mm hit him center mass, and didn't detonate, but when he hit the wing tip, it exploded. No armor is best armor

[@Pablo668]

The Mosquito is quite the aircraft it turns out. It seems the I-16 is quite underrated too.

[@aaronliddell4280]

As always, love and appreciate the WWII content 👍

[@barbarossa1234]

The Mosquito is my all time favorite WWII aircraft.

[@MichelangeloDraconis]

I was watching some different videos and I would love to see how you play with Virtual Reality on DCS because you can have a natural way to see everything inside the airplanes and freelook, and real 3D world around you, etc, etc, etc. Cheers!

[@52Quantum]

I would like to see a good grpund attack mission in the Mosquito. Some nail biting low level action.

[@tonykeith76]

Texture are incredibles.... Looks almost real terrain and cities

[@johnparrish9215]

Can you imagine flying a modern attack helicopter and finding a canon armed I-16 is after you?

[@martins3993]

You kinda started with a huge energy advantage though... Would be interesting to see this fight on equal footing.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Actually we started at the same altitude and speed, I just climbed before the merge and he wasn’t able to climb as much

[@Fluffracka]

Now fly against the I16 in a Me110. That would be interesting...

[@mandst5466]

Top skills man ! Bravo.

[@maxsteiner1964]

What an aircraft. Just beautiful.

[@mcphan6881]

In a close up recording the mosquito do be sounding like a mosquito doe

[@s.anthonyulibarri2488]

I would love to see you in a few videos with the P-38 Lightning if you can do any.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

unfortunately there is no p38 in the sim at this time, but as soon as we get one I promise I will.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

The Donkey is well named, slow, nimble and tough as nails...

[@FormerMushroom]

From F-15 vs F-14 to Donkey vs Mosquito🤌

[@rga66]

You should do some Mosquito vs german bombers videos, with a Spitfire escort against the 109's 😉 Mosquito huntin some HE-111 could be really fun !

[@dzonibravo7867]

Why did donkey started at that much lower altitude?

[@duggiebader1798]

I-16 "Alright... we'll call it a draw"

[@brealistic3542]

Can you throttle each engine separately ? In the P38 many top aces used this tactic to maneuver far better.

[@tanall5959]

You can, but the engines do not counter-rotate. So if you end up throttling back the 'critical engine' (which one that is depends on which way the props turn), the aircaft could end up becoming VERY unstable.

[@maestro1947]

So far I've just been watching people try to get the Mosquito off the ground in the world at war server with limited success. I can't laugh though because I did the same in the P-47 and even though I've gotten past that I enter uncontrolled spins very often when I try to maneuver...lol.

[@debbiestimac5175]

Rudder control if your friend with warbirds. When you learn to kick the rudder to keep the ball centered, keeping in coordinated flight, you will find things much, much easier. Watch the feet of vintage prop pilots when they are in take off and landing thresholds. They look like they are ballroom dancing, their feet are so active.

[@toxaq]

If it’s anything like the mustang empty out the gas when learning. You’re not flying to Berlin.

[@MrDino1953]

@@toxaq - here is a comma for your punctuation. ,

[@toxaq]

@@MrDino1953 and here's a pie for your hole.

[@DoNuT_1985]

You could have just flown away from it and called it a day. 😁

[@adamtruong1759]

To be fair, no aircraft is truly scary anymore once you get the jump on them, and competence to execute it, can't forget that.

[@urbaneriksson9781]

I feel perfectly safe regardless of the outcome of the fight. I guess i would feel differently if it was real!?

[@ch_r0me_one]

This is what happens when you face the most OP airplane in Rank I in War Thunder. 😂

[@TheWhoamaters]

God I can't wait for the Mosquito in IL-2

[@gliderfs621]

3:30 Glorious stalinium

[@hudsonball4702]

You should try the I-16 vs the Ki-27 Nate.

[@i_kazik_i8835]

Haven't watched this yet. All I know it's gonna be a bruh dogfight

[@lordhickory3322]

Why does it look like the I-16 is wearing a Sombrero at 1:31 mins? XDDD It actually is the motor, but it looked like a hat to me first by the perspective!

[@Lexoka]

It's a Russian-Mexican aircraft-a rare kind of mixed heritage!

[@lordhickory3322]

@@Lexoka yeah LOL

[@camiloparra6160]

Great video, I am a commercial pilot , G sidewinder try to do the dogfight between Argee F-86 vs Royal AV8 Sea harrier or Harrier Gr3 , at the time of Falkland argentina reamin a one scuadron with f 86 sabre wirh shafr 2 missiles we dont know why dont send these fighters to the islands.

[@chapanation856]

Fun Fun video!! Best 2 outta 3? Maybe switch roles??

[@comesahorseman]

The wooden wonder! 😅

[@roysimpson6625]

Nicely done

[@N0cTuRn4L1]

Maybe its just my war thunder experience but seeing an i16 at its ranking is always a bit scary. Thing is a menace

[@Sturmbannfuhrer21]

The I-16 is stubborn like a Donkey.

[@williamengland6950]

The “Donkey” kinda reminds me of the Brewster Buffalo.

[@bi0azard993]

Run little donkey

[@scottwilliams4157]

HEE haw!!! EeeHeEEH haww!!! The Donkey does it right!

[@urgentsiesta7606]

A wise man once said, "NEVER cross their nose!"

[@mattski850]

Gotta give yourself a ridiculous challenge from time to time….good for you.

[@theeddorian]

Regarding "ridiculously tough" the Mosquito was no easy bit to take down itself.

[@Robert53area]

That's because no armor is best armor, cannon shells don't arm if they go right through

[@theeddorian]

@@Robert53area Yep. I almost put that in, but decided there would plenty who already knew that.

[@bigearl3867]

Can you imagine what the early bf-109 pilots must have felt like engaging the I-16 in the Spanish Civil War?

[@jamesseay1594]

"There's nothing more dangerous than a wounded mosquito..."

[@alexeyaviator8600]

I-16 pilot could have done more agressive turns once mosquito was close to avoid most of the shells

[@GM-fh5jp]

P40 V Zero and A5M over China...stay high, speed up and energy bounce and zoom kill. Nice kill GS and good dogfight management.

[@pillboxbunker6735]

Always a Hoot watching you!!!

[@benjaminstuver3825]

3:25 maybe that’s why they called it the donkey

[@aldenpittinger4162]

F-22 vs I-16 lol

[@riman8493]

You might say that it... kicks like a donkey? :)

[@TheSithTeacher]

Boom and Zoom the shut out of the little tiny foes

[@CRAZYUNCLE117]

Dual engine made ALL the difference, back in the day. Just like the P-38, you could always outclimb and out dive almost anything. Even though the single engine's are more maneuverable as long as you stuck with "hit and run" you almost couldn't lose.

[@hippoace]

lol not really....twin engine planes are larger, you lose abit of the power to weight ratio in the zoom climb

[@CRAZYUNCLE117]

@@hippoace Yes and no. Duel engine fighters could always outclimb a single engine, just look at the P-38. The issue with most of the others is that they were designed to double as bombers, or transports, creating an airframe that is not as streamlined as it should be. I should have clarified that I was referencing fighters specifically.

[@sule.A]

P38 can dive?😂

[@sin-text857]

@@sule.A Of course, you just had to make sure the wash didn't push you into the ground.

[@ROCHELLBOY]

Thanks, you da man. ;)

[@unknownace7084]

5:06 you have a hole in your right wing!

[@knightonwarbeck1969]

The classic F-4 vs. MIG-17 match up. Was that a stall horn I was hearing?

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

The horn comes on within the first quarter of the throttle when the gear is up, not related to stalling / AoA

[@jimmynickelz]

Boris the Blade in aircraft form.

[@Peeled4901]

Hey if its possible and hasn't been done yet could you do a dogfight between a p40 and an A6M5?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Unfortunately none of those are in DCS sorry man

[@Peeled4901]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Damn thats unfortunate

[@houdini7374]

i-16 vs f-16

[@kerryjohnson1030]

Legitimately lost the opponent for a solid 30 seconds and gs is tracking him perfectly without a problem 😳

[@jagheterbanan]

KZbin compression

[@recklesflam1ngo968]

That's video compression for ya, I'm pretty sure he's playing at either 4k or 1440p too.

[@netyimeni169]

Now imagine there was two of them

[@darkphoenix2]

I feel like these two planes should switch names