Most Durable Weapon Light?

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Werkz Holsters

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@85Sirex
@85Sirex Жыл бұрын
I just ordered a Streamlight TLR H1 the other day, and just saw this video today, so I'm ordering a small parachute to mount to it, in case I accidentally drop it off a building several times.
@TinkerTailorSoldier1
@TinkerTailorSoldier1 3 жыл бұрын
Given the price, holster availability & that the failing point (battery door) would be shielded by a handgun trigger guard, the TLR-1 is definitely the best bang for your buck and should be a top choice.
@RonSpilker
@RonSpilker 3 жыл бұрын
Overall, yes. Holster makers picked up Olights pretty quick though. I've seen more holsters for Olight than Crimson Trace laserguards on newer model guns.
@MyLonewolf25
@MyLonewolf25 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@trevordelarosa3599
@trevordelarosa3599 3 жыл бұрын
I have a TLR-1 HL and I definitely agree. It's one hell of a light
@rifleman7313
@rifleman7313 3 жыл бұрын
For the price I've heard/read that the Olight lights were a good option especially if you were to make your own kydex holster (avoiding the limited holster availability). However I have no first hand experience to backup what I've heard/read. What do you think?
@trevordelarosa3599
@trevordelarosa3599 3 жыл бұрын
@@rifleman7313 just get the TLR-1 HL. Definitely worth the money
@rdm0882
@rdm0882 3 жыл бұрын
I run TLR-1HL on all my pistols. It took a beating of me tackling a suspect and landing right on my holster. Lens shattered but it still worked. Streamlight replaced the lens free of charge.
@trevordelarosa3599
@trevordelarosa3599 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that's really cool. I have the same light and I love mine. I'm not an LEO but it's nice to know the light I chose is that tough
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Like Trevor says, that's super cool to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@juanh.8707
@juanh.8707 2 жыл бұрын
I am gonna join you. Streamlight all the way.
@markhoffman4587
@markhoffman4587 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you " run " them, which is much better than using them
@rdm0882
@rdm0882 2 жыл бұрын
@@markhoffman4587 ooooh big man on YT getting pedantic over semantics.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 жыл бұрын
As a reviewer myself, I know how much time and effort (and money) went into this video. Phenomenal job. Thank you for the no BS data that was completely unbiased, and actually logically collected.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your positive feedback! We do have fun making these videos, and hope that they're useful for our beloved firearms community.
@siegfired10xx74
@siegfired10xx74 Жыл бұрын
This is by FAR!!, the, best, review, Ive seen till this day. Clear, concise and well delivered data. Unbiased and factual relay of information. Im all over your channel now dude thank you for taking these lights to the limit so that we, regular dudes make a well educated purchase.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@BowedWings
@BowedWings 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons that makes Werkz a great company. I carry my m6 literally every day. While I do have complaint, I get to watch this company work hard to provide the best information, and products for their customers. Keep up the work guys. Dedication like this is what the 2A community is all about.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much Ethan for your encouragement! We honestly are hoping that our work here helps consumers make better informed choices. And that it helps push manufacturers to provide us with better products and honest specs. It's a way of giving back to a community that has supported our work as we have grown in the last 10 years.
@BowedWings
@BowedWings 3 жыл бұрын
@@WerkzHolsters It definitely shows.
@kevinscott430
@kevinscott430 2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@mikepaul3200
@mikepaul3200 2 жыл бұрын
Doesnt surprise me about the streamlights. On deployment our supply ordered us a bunch of them. Some large ones vehicle mounted. Had some spot lights in guard towers. A few pistol lights. We beat the ever living shit out of them. All made it through deployment. I was impressed.
@CheemsWildin
@CheemsWildin Жыл бұрын
This is the best torture test I've ever seen of literally ANY gun related product
@everettchris1
@everettchris1 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting test. I wish you had done the immersion test last, seeing as the olights don't claim that they would pass them, and failure was likely at that point. Also, dropping them while attached to a blue gun or such might have been a good idea to make that final drop test a bit more scientific. Beyond that, I'm disappointed in the performance of the modlite and surefire, given the high cost of those offerings, and quite happy about my streamlight.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Great feedback Chris. I agree with your points about the Olights. I probably could have "revived" them by bringing in new Olights for the G-Force and Drop tests. I know people are curious how they would have compared in those circumstances. Also agree about mounting the light for the drop test. Thanks for the constructive feedback!
@ChevTecGroup
@ChevTecGroup 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an olight valkyrie on an impulse buy one night. It has the magnetic charger which I love, but I still don't replace any of my good lights with bit. Anyways I was messing around in the pool and figured I'd throw it in. It went through a few full charges under water so my kids could swim at night. I was pleasantly surprised.
@kdworak4754
@kdworak4754 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@1Bowtieluvr
@1Bowtieluvr 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Chris. Should have done the water test last.
@OmegaBahn
@OmegaBahn 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, that makes sense.
@paulb6560
@paulb6560 3 жыл бұрын
After over 21 years in law enforcement I run nothing but Streamlight. From the several TLR-1HL's I own, to rifle lights, daily carry and my duty light, I've never seen a failure. They've proven themselves.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@kenstirling5348
@kenstirling5348 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Only failure I’ve ever had is the battery door breaking during battery changes or being moved from one gun to another
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenstirling5348 Thanks for sharing your experience... love hearing what has worked and what has broken for folks!
@TopShotDustin
@TopShotDustin Жыл бұрын
This is great!! Well done!
@mattf4143
@mattf4143 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best most thorough test I’ve ever seen on KZbin. I own both the TLR-1 and SF-300-U and love them both. But streamlight just sh*t on everyone. 💪🏻
@triton302
@triton302 3 жыл бұрын
I think you all gave the PL350 way too many chances. With the combined issues it had, I wouldn't use it especially with a poor rail key design. TLR1HL all the way.
@gmbb315
@gmbb315 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Tlr definitely won in my eyes
@coffeeandlifting
@coffeeandlifting 3 жыл бұрын
At this point it seems that Modlite is depending heavily on the "Its really expensive, so it must be good" marketing strategy. The only other light at risk of this is the X300, but at least its only failure was from a switch impact that would never happen during real use.
@dfa1
@dfa1 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Failed immediately when submerged? Then required drying and a new battery? That's a huge failure in my book. Definitely something that shouldn't happen at the price point.
@Masta_E
@Masta_E 3 жыл бұрын
Tlr and x300 are my go too. Both tough and work well and you can get holsters for them lol.
@ChevTecGroup
@ChevTecGroup 3 жыл бұрын
I love my TLRs. Also have a PL-Pro that was an impulse buy. It's mostly used as a helmet light with my dirtbike so I don't have to buy batteries.
@mjaffrey101
@mjaffrey101 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much great advertising for the tw10 lol. Ended buying one and am not disappointed.
@CreamJockey
@CreamJockey 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to support a company that supports us like this! Great video.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
It's my honest hope that by providing unbiased comparisons, and by comparing lights versus manufacturer claims, we help drive the light industry to give us better products. We are blessed with continuing developments and innovations in weaponlights, and I want to see that grow. Thanks for your encouragement!
@taylorbowling640
@taylorbowling640 5 ай бұрын
Ive had the olight pl pro valkyrie for years now ive carried it around in my pocket for 2 years as my edc light off the pistol on Bald head island in the most humid hot climate imaginable still habe it today works great thats 5 years now
@philwiesner4732
@philwiesner4732 3 жыл бұрын
Still would have liked to see the Olights go on the further test .. especially since there is no claim for the water proof test
@spadetrump
@spadetrump 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I want to see olights get dropped!!
@ryand5041
@ryand5041 2 жыл бұрын
Ive seen Honest outlaw throw them way up in the air and fall on a gravel road and survive just fine
@Jeepsteve1982
@Jeepsteve1982 Жыл бұрын
Luckily o lights are cheap enough to drop test one yourself.
@christopherjordan6237
@christopherjordan6237 2 ай бұрын
Same
@brewtron
@brewtron Жыл бұрын
Just grabbed a Thrunite for $35 and it blows my mind it made it all the way to the end, especially the submersion test with it's crappy little rubber flap covering the charging port. Thank you for putting this test together. The quality of the production and the tests themselves was top notch.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! It was fun to put the tests and video together. Now time to do the same thing with some rifle lights...
@practical_precision_shooters
@practical_precision_shooters Жыл бұрын
You're like the Aaron Cowan of flashlights. Love it! I'd love to see a test with the lights attached to actual pistols or rifles.
@MichaelCalise
@MichaelCalise 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best light test I've seen yet. How have I not heard of this channel before?!?! Awesome job!
@coltenW1
@coltenW1 Жыл бұрын
I personally wasn't a fan of streamlight because during my service in the military we only used Surefire stuff so I just assumed Streamlight was the cheap and not as reliable knockoff until I became a police officer and was issued Streamlights as a handheld unit and weapon light, I liked them both so much that I now currently use the TLR-1 on my personal weapons excluding 1 (sig p320c, it has the Sig foxtrot1x) and it was difficult to find a holster for that. Streamlight for the win in my opinion
@strictlyformyninja
@strictlyformyninja 3 ай бұрын
This was one of the most thorough tests of all the major weapon mounted pistol lights that I have seen. Excellent job!
@jdaniel4237
@jdaniel4237 3 жыл бұрын
That was one of the most comprehensive and well thought out tests I've ever seen, well done and thank you! I would be curious to see how the Olights survived the other tests if they didn't fail the salt water test, especially the roof top drop test. I can't wait to see how Cloud Defensive does, I expect it beat all the others.
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 3 жыл бұрын
This test was a joke. Should have waited until the end to submerge them.
@Space_Balls1
@Space_Balls1 3 жыл бұрын
@@travisk5589 why submerge them after they’ve been deformed from the drop test?
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 3 жыл бұрын
@@Space_Balls1 why submerge lights that aren't designed to be submerged
@Space_Balls1
@Space_Balls1 3 жыл бұрын
@@travisk5589 I’d say mainly entertainment, but sometimes crazy things happen and it’s good to know the lights can handle being submerged.
@marlboroman71818
@marlboroman71818 3 жыл бұрын
@@Space_Balls1 who is realistically going to be worried about their pistol light after being submerged with it in saltwater for 5 days. Every light that failed survived a adequate amount of submersion time
@Ohmed_88
@Ohmed_88 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm so glad that we are the winners!!! Best thing I heard in this video!! Let's keep winning guys!
@BTVDeusVult
@BTVDeusVult 2 жыл бұрын
THIS was an INCREDIBLE and SOLID review! Dang, son, I’m telling you - we got to give it to these guys for the MORE THAN thorough review and torture test! Brothers, thanks for taking the time to do this and share with us! 💪🇺🇸
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure! We are having fun testing and publishing results so that folks can make informed choices, and hopefully be entertained as well!
@c.robtoz
@c.robtoz Жыл бұрын
The reason olight failed the saltwater test is because water conducts electricity but salt water does it even better. Thus why you can make simple batteries with only saltwater, zinc & copper. In addition it's corrosive. But the main reason would be that the integrated battery would be discharged constantly (because the charging contacts are constantly in contact with very conductive materials) and with lithium ion batteries you have a "point of no return" when it comes to discharging a cell. Essentially the battery discharges up until a point at which if discharged further, breaks the battery. Then the battery is unable to keep any energy you try to charge it with. Another reason could be that because of corrosion it could've short circuited the battery, instanty destroying it, you can tell if that hapoened if the battery started bloat
@guntypesnlifegripes
@guntypesnlifegripes 3 жыл бұрын
The tlr1-hl is the OG and will always compete. Even though i have switched to the SF 300u
@Crofeye
@Crofeye 5 ай бұрын
The initial tests were very good, and I found the first part also very informative and interesting. Thank you very much.
@user-ed5jh3ff6u
@user-ed5jh3ff6u 3 жыл бұрын
The sage dynamics of weapons lights
@caddilacjim
@caddilacjim Жыл бұрын
Highly impressed with the TLR 1 they have worked very well for my use.Great test very impressive results.
@idkvince
@idkvince 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! The next holster I buy is going to be from you guys just because of the amount of information you have provided me from all your videos and the testing you guys do.
@betovargas2098
@betovargas2098 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vince & Beto. It's our hope that the videos help people make good informed decisions on lights. And we also hope it will help push manufacturers to provide us even better products with honest specs.
@prongATO
@prongATO Жыл бұрын
This was a LOT of hard work! (For those that have never done this level of testing) Bravo good Sirs! Thank you!
@Steven_M.
@Steven_M. 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are such a great resource! It reminds you that higher prices don’t make for higher or superior quality. And that the Mod in Modlite is just short for moderate. Thanks again for these highly entertaining and informative videos!
@chrisbreeze7193
@chrisbreeze7193 3 жыл бұрын
It was the only one still working at the end
@Steven_M.
@Steven_M. 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbreeze7193 I don’t think you’ve seen his other videos where multiple modlites had issues.
@CharlieMikeNS
@CharlieMikeNS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steven_M. I saw them. I've had serious issues with my newer Surefires lately. I had to send my X300u once, and my M600DF three times. Three. Separate. Times. Every company has issues. Modlite has been having some serious issues, there's no doubt. They need to fix it. But they make high quality products if you don't get a lemon.
@Steven_M.
@Steven_M. 3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieMikeNS I understand what you are saying, but I am saying the higher price to pay hoping you don’t get a lemon is not good for the consumer!
@CharlieMikeNS
@CharlieMikeNS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steven_M. You could say the same thing about Surefire. I paid $300 for a rifle light that failed me 3 times. I sent it back 3 times because it broke on three separate occasions. It wasn't abused at all. It just stopped working. The idea that any brand can release a new product with no issues is ludicrous. Some have more than others, but every company who makes anything has issues and some people get lemons. Hell, a lot of people had issues with the Aimpoint CompM5 when it first came out.
@rollheavy619
@rollheavy619 Жыл бұрын
I just came across this video and I thought it was awesome! I’ve always used the TLR-1 series of lights. Could never justify spending so much for the Surefire. After your testing I think I made the right choice. I have had two failures with the TLR-1 series over 15 years of using their lights. I have a TLR-1s that the strobe function stopped working after about a year. However momentary and steady on still work, and the light has been in service for several years since. I also have a TLR-1HL that appears to have a short. The light will not turn on until I remove the batteries and reinsert them. Then the light works. I am sending it in to Streamlight for service.
@wolfsong69
@wolfsong69 3 жыл бұрын
Just like your holsters, this video was high quality! Great information as well!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for your encouragement!
@jjr929
@jjr929 Жыл бұрын
Needs More *LIKES* this review was a MASTERPIECE!!!!! 🙌 thank you
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@titanx5legion527
@titanx5legion527 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Entertaining & informative. I own several TLR-1’s & 6’s, a 7A, an Olight Valkyrie, & a Surefire X300U & while I don’t ever plan on putting them through the hell you demonstrated it’s sure nice to know these are capable of extreme abuse. Love the channel.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
That was my logic as well -- test to the extreme and see if the lights take it. Most did better than I expected.
@ucanon2662
@ucanon2662 2 жыл бұрын
And Streamlight has super warranty and great customer service on two of my Streamlights!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@Zhurak
@Zhurak 2 жыл бұрын
wow, great video and torture test, well done! Honestly the winner is the Thrunite TW10, the price point, durability, function. Prior to the 9th drop, it was the last fully functioning light. While the modlite worked as a flashlight it had lost its mounting, that notch sheering off is a catastrophic failure of design. The TW10's rechargeable function is interesting too, because of its cheap price instead of replacing batteries when it loses charge you could literally just buy 3 or 4 of these and physically swap the light out in the field. I just bought one recently, having never heard of it prior and started searching youtube for reviews. I feel pretty good about that purchase now and may grab a few more just b/c its only 40 bucks and clearly has awesome durability!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
The Thrunite is definitely a tough little light! Glad you found the videos useful! Agree with your point about the light and heat as well. Next time!
@matttirado803
@matttirado803 2 жыл бұрын
I have a TW10. Got it cuz I was impressed by a friends TT20 light and saw the price. No complaints and I agree it was the last functional mountable light.
@texasguncoalition
@texasguncoalition 8 ай бұрын
Great video! This video convinced me of the durability of TLR 1 HL. I have a few Streamlights and need to add this one to my collection.
@wolfsong69
@wolfsong69 3 жыл бұрын
As far as the saltwater killing the baldr pro, saltwater is more conductive than regular water. Its safe to assume that the exposed gold contact 17:15 (I'm assuming for the charger) had a deadshort because of the saltwater.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
That does make sense thanks for providing your feedback!
@ChevTecGroup
@ChevTecGroup 3 жыл бұрын
I would assume this is correct as I have had my PL-PRO/valkyrie at the bottom of my pool for hours at a time. It's been fine. Still carry TLRs though
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChevTecGroup Hey thanks for sharing what you experienced with the PLPro!
@GriffXJ
@GriffXJ Жыл бұрын
This video is one of the reasons the TLR1-HL is my go-to. The TRL1 lives happily on my FNX 45 Tactical
@drumbum353
@drumbum353 3 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do this with rifle lights as well!
@iHipHopVEVO
@iHipHopVEVO 3 жыл бұрын
Yes ! I hope that’s next !
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Surefire, Streamlight, (possibly Olight?), Modlite, and Cloud Defensive? Any other contenders?
@kimbroslic3
@kimbroslic3 3 жыл бұрын
@@WerkzHolsters the Olight Odin too just so everyone can see how terrible they are
@mastabugfish
@mastabugfish 3 жыл бұрын
@@WerkzHolsters inforce WML?
@merpinallday
@merpinallday 3 жыл бұрын
Def do rifle lights next
@Shooter11B
@Shooter11B 7 ай бұрын
What a great test series!! I usually run TLR-1 HLs, but in the past year, I have had two separate battery doors fail requiring replacement. I am now looking at different lights and I have to say the WLD 2 is now my favorite out of all the ones tested in the video, AND the price is RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, your company does not list it as a light you make holsters for.
@southernpartisan1772
@southernpartisan1772 3 жыл бұрын
If you ever do drop test in the future you could try mounting the lights to a blue gun for the drop. Thanks for this great content.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Good point -- That would be more realistic.
@aspitofmud6257
@aspitofmud6257 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time, help and expense in testing all of these lights. It's been a crap shoot as to the durability of the lights out here until now. 👍💯
@Capper69
@Capper69 3 жыл бұрын
I really would love to see more tests on lights especially different models of the most popular brands like olight stream light, etc. on waterproof/water resistance as I’m always out on the ocean and carrying what light is most durable to everyday use!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
We have more tests planned! Thanks for the encouragement to keep doing the salt water testing.
@Light-hawk
@Light-hawk 2 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon your channel. Several years ago I bought a TLR-1 HL back when they were new to the market. Mostly went for that because at the time I couldn't afford a Surefire. Now that I am in a position that I could afford one I started looking up reviews and such. I was surprised to find your channel and find out how well the light I already have holds up compared to the Surefire! Thanks for the reviews! Think I'm just going to stick with what I already have now.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy we could help you make an informed decision! Thanks much for your encouragement.
@NTurman
@NTurman 3 жыл бұрын
Solid video and makes me happy with streamlight. I too would like the cloud defensive testing. I hope they send you some testing lights in advance
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
If you know of anyone at Cloud, put in the good word for us!
@mj-1809
@mj-1809 3 жыл бұрын
Best Christmas present! Amazing test. Project Farm status testing! Gold gentlemen, gold. THANK YOU!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure! I'm looking forward to testing more lights like this, incorporating suggestions and improvements from viewers such as you. Thanks much MJ!
@DYang01
@DYang01 3 жыл бұрын
The olight pro seems to have shorted out in the salt water due to exposure of the magnetic charging port (both positive and negative terminals are exposed).
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
That makes some sense. Would that be the same mechanism that allows you to use the remote switch to turn it on?
@DYang01
@DYang01 3 жыл бұрын
@@WerkzHolsters yup. Basic electrical circuit for charging, inner ring has to be positive terminal and outer ring has to be the opposite, or vise versa. You can probe those two rings with a multimeter and it should read battery voltage. I think it only shorted out because salt water is much more conductive than regular faucet water.
@Oysteims
@Oysteims 2 жыл бұрын
At 17:14, the Olight Baldr short-circuited. Saline water has a high conductivity (i.e. low electrical resistance) - and if you measure between the lights chassis and the little gold-coated knob with a multimeter/voltmeter, you would probably see some voltage difference (the battery voltage). This starts an electrochemical reaction in the saline solution where the light chassis acts as an anode and the "postivite" gold-coated knob as the cathode. Probably discharging the battery by short-circuiting it and slightly corroding the anode material (i.e. the aluminium chassis).
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's an accurate assessment. Just would add that the battery doesn't come back after trying to charge it again.
@pewpewTN
@pewpewTN 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty much 100% on board with Streamlight. I rarely even consider other options anymore. They've just proven effective over time & the price is right.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
I think your sentiments are shared by many others in these comments.
@SgtR6motovlogs
@SgtR6motovlogs Жыл бұрын
This has solidified my choice in the tlr-1 hl for sure
@christopherrobin8134
@christopherrobin8134 3 жыл бұрын
I love what y’all do here! I do have a few test design suggestions though. Just a few thoughts from your friendly neighborhood engineer. For the vibration table test, having the lights front to back like that might be introducing heat to the fronts and backs of the lights that wouldn’t normally be present, and may effect performance. If the placement on the table has an effect just from the heat generation, then the test may not be 100% fair to all contenders. For the salt water test, I think the exposed battery charger on the olight fried because salt water is extremely conductive. The water shorted that circuit essentially. Or, perhaps olight built in protections for that failure, and it was another factor. The g force and impact tests were interesting, but I think they were too severe to be useful for comparing lights for everyday use. A more interesting test would be how many drops from shoulder height cause failure. Or how many recoil cycles cause failure. Looking forward to more objective tests!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher, thanks for taking your valuable time to provide constructive feedback. I agree on the test table item. I could add more rails and point lights away from each other. Regarding the salt water, agree it must have something to do with the charge (and switch) port, but if it's actually a switch port, I'm not sure how that would cause the light to fail and not come back to life with after charging. I think the g force test (I still need to measure the force) is harsh, but I'm not sure how unrealistic it is. Someone else has commented that their Modlite rail key broke under recoil of their Glock, and the Glock polymer should have more cushioning effect than the aluminum rail I used. I agree that the drop test should have been done with a pistol (even if it's just a weighted blue gun) attached. Thanks again for your useful thoughts!
@christopherrobin8134
@christopherrobin8134 3 жыл бұрын
@@WerkzHolsters Not a problem! Thank you!
@CDOES
@CDOES Жыл бұрын
You earned a sub, and as many shares as I can give. This is the testing I would of done personally for these lights. Absolutely fantastic!
@flugit
@flugit 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video. 👍 well done!
@captainduckles8704
@captainduckles8704 Жыл бұрын
Only thing i could have wished to see done was the tlr7/7a from streamlight simply because its a more compact light. Other than that great comprehensive video! I was very impressed by the sheer amount of effort that was put in on this, looking forward to binging the rest of these vids
@robinsok
@robinsok 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned the X300, didn't think it beat out the TLR1-HL. Sold it, and now run just the TLR1-HL's. I am wanting an upgrade to it, but wasn't pumped that modlight doesn't have momentary, and honestly, it didn't do that well in this test. Also heard in another review that it doesn't fit into some x300 capable holsters, which I believe they claimed it would and that's a big negative for a lot of folks. The mount breaking here is a big embarrassment for that light I feel. I own two cloud defensive lights, and am waiting for their pistol light to see what it has. Hopefully it will be the new champ.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! I too am anxiously awaiting Cloud Defensive solutions to give them a try.
@teaganwindago3132
@teaganwindago3132 Жыл бұрын
This is the exact test I've been looking for. I'm a Streamlight guy. There on all my things. Thank you for this test!!!!!
@razorseal
@razorseal Жыл бұрын
cliff notes. stop overspending for surefire X300 and just get the TLR1-HL
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN 6 ай бұрын
The TLR1-HL seems better than the more expensive Surefire, despite Surefire being rated as a duty light.
@gregkollaeg2365
@gregkollaeg2365 3 ай бұрын
If you want to support communist China and not the US workers. Than yes.
@SN-47
@SN-47 2 жыл бұрын
The best benchmark I have ever seen about ... anything ! Wow, I was having questions about different light models, I don't have anymore. Amazing video!! Thanks!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help!
@pixelbucket8884
@pixelbucket8884 2 жыл бұрын
The Thrunite suprised me, I wasn't expecting a 35 dollar light to do as well as it did.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is a tough little light.
@FederalBureauInvestigation_YT
@FederalBureauInvestigation_YT Жыл бұрын
I got one just for a cheap FDE light and it's a rockstar. Can't bring my self to spend any money to replace it.
@JulietBravo90
@JulietBravo90 3 жыл бұрын
Best review channel for this gear I've seen. Lot of money spent on this
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement! We do get to have a lot of fun here, but it does take a bunch of time, equipment, and few dollars of lights. :)
@Coonder92
@Coonder92 3 жыл бұрын
Technically there’s a secondary pin you’re supposed to add to the SF X300 to ensure the battery cap doesn’t come open, but great testing overall!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent feedback. I probably should have put that in for the drop test.
@ablepursuit8887
@ablepursuit8887 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had to warranty two X300Us due to the plastic latch that holds the battery door closed breaking, both with pins installed. The pin is only to prevent the latch from being inadvertently depressed causing the door to open. That clip has a long history of failure on the X300U and an engineering disaster on a hard use component. That being said, SF customer service seems to be on point with a stock of latches they’ll send with the quickness.
@Nick-hm9rh
@Nick-hm9rh 3 жыл бұрын
@@ablepursuit8887 Technically most pistols hold the flap closed. especially glocks. so it would probably still work fine
@AuntyMabele
@AuntyMabele 3 жыл бұрын
I've said this before and I'll say it again: This is such an underrated channel.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much! We have more content like this planned!
@Jester_-
@Jester_- 2 жыл бұрын
I'll still go with the TLR-1. Great company, great warranty, great reputation, better holster availability, the list goes on.
@gebeme11
@gebeme11 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a reason not to run a TLR-1. Fantastic video guys!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much!
@juliebrown8270
@juliebrown8270 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome test, it really is good to know how things will hold up to tests like this. I am curious how sub compact lights would hold up. I have been looking into purchasing a TLR 7 Sub and seeing how well the TLR 1HL held up, will the subcompact be as tough. Great job guys. Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to run a compact & subcompact comparison as well. Hopefully soon. Merry Christmas to you as well Julie!
@dylanmatlock9258
@dylanmatlock9258 Жыл бұрын
Why do I always watch these videos after purchasing lol. Earned my subscription for sure. Will definitely be checking out a holster and more vids thanks for the work
@djrathbone788
@djrathbone788 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it doesn't seem like the PL350 should be a winner. I'm going TLR 1 all day long
@oganarchy3667
@oganarchy3667 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I've ever seen about WML. You got yourself a new customer.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks much! We have a lot more content coming, and hope that it's going to measurably improve both decision making, as well as the light industry in general.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not shocked that Olight were some of the first losers. And while people will be quick To claim that Olight stayed the coolest, it's only because they get so darn hot so quickly that they prematurely dim, cooling them. To be fair, Modlite really should have been counted out when it couldn't be mounted to a firearm anymore. Really, the Streamlight TLR-1 HL was the All-Star.. And not surprisingly so. Objectively, the quality and performance of the light for the price of Streamlight, they really are the best out there. Modlite was plagued with problems (no surprise), the X300 didn't perform as indestructible as the fanbois claim. And the Olight's died because they just don't make good lights. Thrunite makes excellent lights, so I'm not surprised it lasted. Great video!
@gizmosgadgets4146
@gizmosgadgets4146 3 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with you. I run the cheaper Surefire 6px lights on my long guns, but all handguns get Streamlight. Fenix for handheld for me. Had a PD35 tac I’ve used everyday for almost 6 years now in a rough environment. Even the finish is holding up wonderfully!
@jcadvanced
@jcadvanced 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested how the Olight would hold up if it went through the other tests after the salt water immersion test. Considering the Olight weren't rated to be submersible anyways.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcadvanced I think the fact that they aren't submersible, when all others are, just shows one of many ways that they cut corners and cheap out. Werkz has other light videos showing Olight's downfalls. From lacking candela, not putting out the lumens advertised, flickering issues..etc...
@jcadvanced
@jcadvanced 3 жыл бұрын
@@RTTGunsGear understand. I'm just interested to see how each light perform for each test. 💡👍
@gizmosgadgets4146
@gizmosgadgets4146 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcadvanced Olight is ok, I have a few handheld lights but in my experience the durability of those don’t even come close to other brands. I’ve had lenses pop out and melt on a few occasions but I use my lights harder than most, and if they fall they fall on a concrete floor.
@Towarddev
@Towarddev 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make those tests happen!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure!
@mastabugfish
@mastabugfish 3 жыл бұрын
Really impressed with the thrunight! Great video, thank you for taking this on! Glad to see the streamlight hold up so well, especially considering I can buy 2 or 3 for the cost of an x300. Modlight is a no go for sure, testing the rail key for a weaponlight seems like it should be pretty basic. So did they not bother to test it or did they test it and say "F-it, ship em anyway"?
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! I was pleasantly surprised by most of the lights. I cannot speak to Modlite more than what I've already said; we have covered the PL350 in a few videos and articles so far.
@jinks6410
@jinks6410 11 ай бұрын
Just found the video and you put max effort and time. You gained a sub. Observation: to be fair the lights in the back had no light shining on them, while the lights in front had extra heat from the lights in the back.
@dontthrowrocksatmonkeys8651
@dontthrowrocksatmonkeys8651 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Just bought an Olight Baldr Pro. I like it very much but don’t like the feel of the selector switch. I don’t think I will be diving in the ocean any time soon so think it’ll be good.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for your feedback!
@scottzj
@scottzj 3 жыл бұрын
I own 12 different light systems for pistol and rifle from 3 different companies. I have to say I have never had any of them fail me Except my TLR 1. Upon shooting at the range on my Glock 40 (10mm), it exploded into pieces, with some still attached to the gun. It was sent back to the company, and they replaced it free and said they would investigate what happen (never heard anything back). I carry many Olights too as I love the ease of turning on no matter if I carry left or right but also the ease of charging. I do appreciate your non-biased testing and honestly didn't matter who won, it looked fun as heck to do. Cheers
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Scott, thanks for sharing your experience! I read every comment like yours to get a better understanding of what companies are doing well and where they can improve. And yes, the testing was a bunch of fun. I'm looking forward to the next group of victims -- er -- lights.
@sofloflow
@sofloflow 3 жыл бұрын
I run a TLR1 HL on a G40, 0 issues.
@scottzj
@scottzj 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofloflow Yeah I have 2 others that have never failed. not sure how or why that one failed as it was very strange. But didnt keep me from carrying or using them or other brands. As these tests show they are all really good lights and have their good and bad points, just personal preference. Cheers
@zubdub2506
@zubdub2506 3 жыл бұрын
Unsurprised to have seen O-Light's lackluster performance, tbh. We've done similar recoil testing with lights at the training center I frequent, and we found the O-Lights consistently failed under continuous use and recoil. Those repeatable failures we found are why none of their products are on the approved WML list for our county's Sheriff's office or city's PD.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
If you have data you can share, I would be interested to review. Email lab@werkz.com. I appreciate your sharing your experience; perhaps I increase number of cycles on the g-force test. That might approximate the conditions you've seen.
@-Rome-
@-Rome- 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome test and good info! Thank you! Going to reach out to you for holsters!
@jajaStamp
@jajaStamp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a ton; Tlr-1 HL it is; This video was amazing I watched beginning to end which is quite uncommon for me and your a HOLSTER MANUFACTURER this is insane I would expect this quality content from a light dedicated channel but yall blew this debate out of the water; Bravo.... Bravo
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for your feedback! Yeah we have fun with taking a close look at lights!
@nobodyknows9937
@nobodyknows9937 Жыл бұрын
This was a very fun one to watch, and interesting overall. I know now to refrain from throwing my TLR1 off buildings
@ryguy522
@ryguy522 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been shockingly impressed with the durability of my Thrunite TW10 and I’m glad to see it’s not a fluke. Would love to see a test of rifle lights with the Thrunite offerings included so I don’t have to feel the need to upgrade my TW20.
@mdjak3686
@mdjak3686 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work. Will check out your holsters now.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback! This was a fun video to make. I'm looking forward to our next torture test!
@smashedhulk8492
@smashedhulk8492 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work yet again.
@bigjimward1
@bigjimward1 Жыл бұрын
I run thrunite on all my weapons for years not once have a failure of any kind not even a battery replacement plug it in charge it good as gold ..and look how much money I’ve saved over the years THANK YOU THRUNITE YALL ROCK !!!!
8 ай бұрын
Wow impressive testing. Got both of my tlr1 hl for $100 each. Glad i bought them.
@last_raven
@last_raven 3 жыл бұрын
Werkz is my favorite holster company. Thanks so much guys
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Aw shucks thanks much. We love what we do here. Thank you for being our customer!
@Agape11
@Agape11 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir for your time and your money and your effort in this test! It was a very thorough test and much appreciated
@COLT45Studios
@COLT45Studios 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video!
@terryberry96
@terryberry96 3 жыл бұрын
Werkz really puts in the work!! Literally doing the most in terms of testing lights, super comprehensive and thorough. Keep it up guys!
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your encouragement! We have lots more planned!
@mattblack133
@mattblack133 Жыл бұрын
Awesome test dudes! Loved it... wish you had extras of the lights that failed for the drop test tho. Anyway... keep up the good work!
@neurotoksyn
@neurotoksyn 3 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate this data for future purchase considerations.
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks much! It is my desire that it's helpful for folks.
@jackreacher6758
@jackreacher6758 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you. These results sorta disprove the “buy once, cry once,” and “you get what you pay for,” maxims.
@ryanguldbrandsen7672
@ryanguldbrandsen7672 3 ай бұрын
True. But you need tests like these to prove this. It almost always a more safe bet to go the buy once cry once route for the most part.
@galvanizeddreamer2051
@galvanizeddreamer2051 2 жыл бұрын
As a TLR-1 HL owner, thank you for the confirmation bias.
@tombearclaw
@tombearclaw 6 ай бұрын
Streamlight has a great warranty and so does the nightstick. Both manufacturers will service them if possible or replace them if necessary for reasonable wear and tear. 120 hours in saltwater immersion seems pretty long though
@tombearclaw
@tombearclaw 6 ай бұрын
Streamlight has a great warranty and so does the nightstick. Both manufacturers will service them if possible or replace them if necessary for reasonable wear and tear.
@eaglesteve8571
@eaglesteve8571 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for putting these lights to the test. You have confirmed my light purchase decision. TLR-1
@WerkzHolsters
@WerkzHolsters Жыл бұрын
Great choice!
@Juan_Reyes_308
@Juan_Reyes_308 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video very informative I am still going to stick with the trl1... Great video...
@brandon152lee
@brandon152lee Жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome video! Thank you so much for taking the time, effort and $$$ to make this.
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