Most Magisterial Tulips

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I just Wanna Throw Up on Lirturgical Relevancy Fails. So WE answers questions about flowers and reasons, with magesterial efficiency and a heart for ministeriality. Or something like that. Oh, and WE take extra time cause it's a really serious question and the answers make almost no sense, except that they make perfect sense. You won't be able to resist it, unless, of course, you do.

[@shieldwolflutheran]

As a former Baptist Calvinist, this is the best explanation/comparison of the two approaches to the topic of salvation/predestination I have ever seen. Thank you. The Lutheran understanding (Biblical understanding) was a great joy to me when "I discovered" (hah, me? no) it 17 years ago. Randy

[@horngal88]

It really truly is a blessing to just say "I don't know." I need God to be so much more than me. Seems like the pride involved in saying "I can figure God out" sets one up for an incredible fall. Thanks Pastor.

[@andypacman]

As a former Calvinist of Calvinists who is now an LCMS vicar, this video nails it. Thanks!

[@MattLorfeld]

However Lutherans don't speak of "Total Depravity" in the same way that Calvinists do. In fact, it's kind of weird when a Lutheran uses this phrase... it's like a German eating lefse. While, as Lutherans, we reject Arminius's emphasis of our "free will" and our ability to do good, we will not speak of our anthropology as that we are in essence sinful (else Christ's incarnation was incomplete... or he was a sinner), rather we say that our "sinful nature" is a corruption of God's good creation.

[@RomGabe]

Thank you for Law & Gospel!

[@kaitnymiwi23]

This is amazing. I love so many of your videos (which I just found recently), but this was particularly awesome (and succinct! ;) ). I might just have to force all my Presbyterian friends to watch this. And thanks so much for all of your work on these videos in general. They've greatly enriched me (a Lutheran pk) in my faith, and my raised-Presbyterian-becoming-Lutheran friend has told me that they've helped him a lot too.

[@vintnerman]

I wish I had the space & time to enumerate the # of errors, caricatures, & falsehoods made in just 13-minutes. What was the most breathtaking to me was how willing you are w/the wave of the hand to dismiss a biblical and theological outlook that has a corpus of writing and galaxy of thinkers 500 years long. Calvin, Knox, and other Reformers and their theological outlook essentially founded our country and were instrumental in providing you with the freedoms you now enjoy. more to come...

[@wolkristen]

To be God or to let God be God. That is the question.

[@DrMJS]

10,000 x 10,000 thumbs up

[@bubbaburke]

Absolute, one-way, undeserving, free gift Grace can be so offensive. Great video. If God chooses to save humanity on a Cross, I'm sure he can deliver it to us by whatever means he chooses, including bread/wine on a Sunday morning or water. Its my short experience that many in other persuasions see communion as a work, us making sure we are "right" with God before taking it and they forget it is God's gift for us.

[@nschaub]

Good job! One of my members sent this to me...........Rev. Ernie V. Lassman, Messiah Lutheran Church............Seattle

[@jordantsak7683]

''God loved the world'' means ''not only the Hebrew, the Judaists''. This is the emphasis. He saves from all over the human race.

[@MattLorfeld]

Regarding the "worship" of bread and wine. The issue our confessions condemn, is really not the elements, but the Eucharistic adoration that occurs of the consecrated elements apart from their instituted use (ie a Corpus Christi procession). To try dividing out Christ's presence from the elements He is present in gets really close to the same error as Nestorius. When I distribute I say "This is the body of Christ", that which I hold/give ought be adored through eating as Christ instituted.

[@MattLorfeld]

Another thought... if the finite cannot contain the infinite, Lutherans are among the worst heretics for singing st. 6 of Glory Be to Jesus: Lift ye then your voices; swell the mighty flood; louder still and louder praise the precious blood. ...well that and confessing the incarnation.

[@horngal88]

You know Pastor, we've listened to this twice, second time I looked away from the screen so I could concentrate on what you were saying. God is so good, my sin is so bad, His grace for me (and my family) is so sure, it's so sad, Christ did all this for us, why would any human ever want to change any of this? Steve

[@rationalmaterialist]

Most helpful video yet. I lean heavily on reason in ordinary pedestrian matters, however am convinced by reason that reason itself is insufficient for understanding my faith. I actually find my Christian friends harder to communicate with than my rationalistic atheist friends, yet my faith is far more important to me than reason. I can't really understand why that is, but it is. Thanks again.

[@loofrin]

man, i really wish i'd paid more attention in my confirmation class...

[@misterh1]

This is a HUGE help in my understanding. Thank you!!

[@felixlee7824]

@ 9:03 Baptists got a heart attack.

[@TheTbonist]

Amen! Thank you!

[@terriergal]

LOL this is brilliant. I am one of those stuck in between... I love you guys.

[@cptranman]

Thank you, Pastor. That question could have been asked by me because it is almost exactly where I am. If your church were just a little bit closer than the hour away that it is, I am pretty sure I would be Lutheran by now ;-)

[@CraigDruckrey]

1:45 to 1:52 is so funny...and so true! Hilarious and OMGosh that dancing guy at 1:19 wow.

[@myt4truss]

@horngal88 A great opportunity to bring up a quote credited to Pastor Luther, "...grant the Holy Spirit the honor of being more learned than you." I believe this was in the context of explaining a 6-day creation (as opposed to those who actually couldn't understand why it took so LONG to create!).

[@kurtwinrich]

certainly!

[@pujolspals]

@nattybreck ya, that would be awesome!!!

[@ctvtmo]

Great video. I love the line "What do Lutherans call the blurring of Calvinism and Lutheranism? Calvinism!" That made my day, thank you. The real difference, however, between Calvinists and Lutherans isn't paradox, but Calvinists exegete Romans 9 while Lutherans cry mystery. Keep up the great work, I love your channel.

[@kurtwinrich]

love your videos; I want to help you with typos (I think they are typos): isn't it "magisterial", not "magesterial"? Also, during your segment on predestination you have a text-graphic that misspells the word "damned" (looked like simple transposition). Thanks again for your work! The Lord be with you!

[@DavidJacks1967]

paradox vs. antimony ---- that is the difference Sir.

[@jordantsak7683]

Very good analysis. But...let's distinguish Calvin's genuine texts and theological positions from nowadays ''calvinism/reformed'' world. They are totally the opposite. TULIP is not Calvin. It is ''calvinism''. Calvin was not ''rational'' and, for sure, not more rational than Luther.

[@pujolspals]

@nattybreck Ya you should!!

[@Preachrboy]

The Lutheran knows how to shrug.

[@myt4truss]

@Revfiskj @ansterr3 Just recently I was reminded, "I know I am saved because... JESUS died for me." Thank God it's not because of anything I do (do-do) ;)

[@microfrog4855]

Tulip? CALVINISM. :D

[@BlendahTom]

Yo Rev.. would love your thoughts on this article in terms of Limited Atonement and many of your arguments against.. For some reason youtube won't let me post a link.. hrmmm L I G O N E R . O R G -- Search for ""For God so loved the world" by Tom Ascol btw.. I really digg your stuff..

[@rorshakks]

Yep , God gave us reason and you deny it.

[@zacfoo]

John [Calvin] 20: 31 "but these are written so that you may KNOW that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by KNOWING you may have life in his name."

[@michaelh9610]

Nope; God gave us reason, and we acknowledge that even Reason is fallible and marred by our Total Depravity. Rather than being pure and perfect and reliable, because it is a tool of man, it is to be rejected when logic is used to prevail against God's Word.

[@brhodes625]

Fisk, I love your stuff, but this...not so much. 1. You seem to conflate mystery (which the Reformed folk can and do love) with paradox (which we actually do accept--such as death (of Jesus) brings life (to his sheep). This is paradoxical; we simply don't use paradox as a tool to dodge an explanation. 2. Clear texts interpret unclear texts, right? I hear some Lutherans say this; I've heard a Lutheran professor of hermeneutics say it. But a lot of my Lutheran friends seem to suddenly stop saying that as soon as they have to punt to paradox to support a Lutheran idea. Reformed folk let all of Scripture stand (this is such an unhelpful distinction--we let the Bible speak and you don't--I don't have a lot of time for this, to be honest). But you didn't even mention this hermeneutic principle that when you come to difficult texts (and Reformed folk *admit* that there are difficult texts) you *allow* the clear texts to interpret the unclear ones. The question is not "Does Romans 11 speak to 'all?'" At least I haven't found a Reformed theologian who is actually saying it doesn't. The question is what does "all" mean? Does Rom 9 interpret 11 or does 11 interpret 9? You didn't interact with that at all, you just told Reformed people to keep reading until Romans 11. C'mon man! :) Even Reformed Baptist (gasp!) John Piper will tell you that Romans 9-11 must be read as a unit if it's to be understood correctly. In fact--that was the course he used to teach at Bethel Seminary before he became a pastor. The course was "Romans 9-11." Those three chapters. For the whole semester. "I'm just sayin." ;) 3. Irresistible Grace does not teach that grace cannot be resisted, but that God can overcome our resistance when he chooses. And praise God he does. 4. It's disingenuous to frame the issue as "God hasn't answered this" without interacting with the texts that seem to offer answers. Finally, I don't know if you *mean* to be confusing, but I remain confused. The statement "I like you guys, but you don't let the Bible speak for itself (whereas I do) and you don't understand what I believe (because if you did, you'd call me a heretic)." Honestly, I think I'd rather just be "unliked." :) But I do like you. I just don't really feel at all fairly represented when I watch this. Again--"I'm just sayin." I feel you have some nice things to say about Reformed people, but I don't think all of this is fair. Just me, though.

[@wolkristen]

To be God or to let God be God. That is the question.