Most men live lives of Quiet Desperation - Joe Rogan

Joseph James Rogan is an American UFC color commentator, podcaster, comedian, actor, and former television presenter. He hosts The Joe Rogan Experience, a podcast in which he discusses current events, comedy, politics, philosophy, science, and hobbies with a variety of guests.
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[@WarPoet-In-Training]

"Some men die when they're 30 but aren't buried until they're 80."

[@rajeshkrish2625]

I cannot believe only 7 people saw this comment. So deep

[@carlosrangel1631]

Omg 😢 facts !!!!! Thank you I couldn’t have said it better myself

[@gimpfoot]

My man speaking BIG! Facts

[@RobertGlover381]

Fact

[@JohnBrown-vn2qw]

yeah and some start living at 30. they called late bloomers

[@Goosebump_clips]

Sad part is most of us don’t make it out of quiet desperation and then we die. Stay strong lads.

[@christopherhodges1189]

the cemetery is full of lost hope, regrets, and forgotten dreams

[@ekelennorom5817]

Have some faith, it ends quickly 🙏

[@warrenbuffett875]

@I Coroa Capitalism is the only the only way you have a chance out of it

[@hankschrader5507]

As a man, the desperation is not being able to do all this. I am quite happy with supporting a wife and kids, as long as the wife is not a slut and the kids are in my custody. I love the idea of being able to provide for my family and have a loving, thriving family. I do not mind busting my ass for this. I would feel inadequate if I just sat and let someone else take care of things. I need to be capable and loved, both of these are necessities.

[@jassimalsafwani]

Lord Jesus Christ said unto him I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father except by me (John 14 :6)

[@THEBODYPRACTICE]

One of the most profound things I feel Joe has ever spoken publicly.

[@elise9537]

same with women :)

[@user-mr-m12312]

​@@elise9537no it's not same

[@elise9537]

@@user-mr-m12312 youre such an empathetic ... whatever you are. dont inflict yourself on women.

[@Michael-mh4vr]

Not saying much....

[@kathleenkelly3537]

Women are no different

[@josephgilbert7931]

Not just bills. It's being alone every day you come home from work just being alone. No friends, no loved ones. No one. Just feel empty

[@TheSabotaje]

That’s sad but it’s just life I guess

[@mojo4369]

Its so easy to just cacoon at home when youre lonely-I know. Like Joe says, you have to have a plan to unstick yourself from loneliness and just hanging at home. Join a gym, a club, a church, volunteer somewhere. Befriend an elderly person-they are the most lonely ppl in the world. "You have to attack like you're saving the world". Dont worry about not having a bf/gf or wife/husband-they arent the answer to loneliness. ❤

[@kryptonit201]

I am feel it my brother. Now u know.

[@danielrangel3425]

If you know, Jesus, you’ll never be alone

[@frstchan]

@@danielrangel3425 I dont think imaginary friends help.

[@mishmashmarsh9499]

Bills, "Like financial bills?" No, a group of guys all called Bill, they come and they ruin your day.

[@roofinganddiesels]

😂

[@designernailsbyshireen5985]

Sorry that was funny 😂

[@tumbleweed4315]

Makes sense

[@theinnerlight8016]

Those fuckers! Harass me every week.

[@DJiNstncT]

😂😂😂

[@dsadams17]

"Bills? Like, financial bills?" "No, the fucking Buffalo Bills."

[@MS-sd1uz]

They lure people into the trap with GI bills

[@jeffallen8026]

😂

[@jackd2083]

You can tell she has struggled all her life!🤣

[@brycel.williams8624]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@zeus_tha_truth2025]

Even worse 💀😂😂

[@mojo4369]

Im 70, and that's some of the best advice I've ever heard. Young ones-listen up!.

[@Chucklenuttur]

Some people also need to realize that no one is gonna come and save you from it.

[@movementandmuscle]

Nothing worse than feeling like you’re drowning in your own existence.

[@ninjacreeper541]

That's a good way to say it honestly it genuinely feels like that some days, god speed brother I feel you

[@worzel3089]

I feel exactly like this right now .

[@pyr3x_]

@@worzel3089 +1

[@DK-oc6sf]

@@pyr3x_ +1

[@wapjwe]

😢😢 I'm feeling that way at the moment 😢 a lot has been taking away from me since birth

[@yourstruly2803]

"Most men receive their first flowers on the day of their funeral."

[@rahuldahoob]

😮

[@benbecic7401]

Nice quote

[@totesmagotes3688]

Why would I want flowers? Why would I want to be given anything that I can get for myself? I’d rather live a life where others can depend on me, but without getting shit all over the whole time.

[@amg9163]

I think the _"flowers"_ were meant symbolically as *appreciation.*

[@3hug3hug6]

Faxxxxx

[@user-gx3ce1cy6m]

There are many tears in a man’s heart that never reaches his eyes. I am 70 and I wish there was a person who said this when I was 30. I am just another of the walking dead, who just haven’t admitted it.

[@alantaylor-vb6mn]

Had you heard it when you were 30, you wouldn't have understood it as you do now. Do not be ashamed of your past. Right now, "you are exactly where you are suppose to be". In essence, all your passed decisions, enabled you to be here right now. Don't feel you have lived a life of "regrets". Some words of wisdom, was meant for us to hear when we became wise enough to understand them. I am 3 years your junior. I heard the words I just told you over 8 years ago. It took me another year to understand what it meant. What he says, may resonate to you, because you may feel yiu haven't accomplished some of the things that the world has accomplished. You've accomplished the most important thing in life, and that's another day of life. I see it this way for me......"I am not living to die, but dieing to live". Make the most of everyday. Smile, laugh love and respect life. "Life isn't the amount of breaths we take, but the breath taking moments"!

[@pxa523]

Still strong and holding on brother

[@rsinghj1]

Absolutely correct. Can't sleep but wake up every day like I'm drowning. Pressure, stress and endless pain. Unsupportive family. Alone and struggling. Nobody else cares

[@Ayamra]

Stay strong brother ...Only the ones going through the same situation will care because we can relate..Take it as this you might love your family but most will never see their fathers value until they are gone ..

[@dimebagvinnie644]

I'm there man

[@samualthelamanite7560]

I care Brother! Pray, meditate and dream and then go make that dream come true ! You’re worth it ! I also spoke those words to myself. Sleep is huge ! Good water, and food ! Start there ! God bless

[@JimmyLives1986]

"If You're going through hell, Keep going!" - Winston Churchill

[@internuts11]

It definitely doesn't just come from money. It comes from Despair and feeling unloved unappreciated and betrayed

[@unofficialhotel]

If you have money and are still depressed then that’s just a massive skill issue

[@JMPaesthetics]

Yep felt this nobody on your side but you

[@bigboar8678]

Need Jesus my brothers

[@randalthor6872]

Yea, but Joe pretending he's "been that guy" even though he's worth hundreds of millions is very dubious. It's different when you are filthy rich. It just is. lmao

[@chrisjones6496]

You’re 100% right my Brother… money matters but Betrayal and Unappreciated lead to Despair and Feeling Unloved, Unwanted. It’s like yelling in a crowded room and nobody can hear you. It’s the worse pain you’ll ever feel. Trust me…

[@upstatecommunications9031]

The message resonated with me. Especially: 1. “You fucked up” 2. “Do it like your life depends on it”

[@ahop075]

Having that mentality will make you more stressed

[@timbo7873]

How did we fuk up?...by being born?

[@institutfuralternativewahr8292]

@@timbo7873 yes lets crawl back

[@razorsharplifestyle101hard9]

@@timbo7873 By falling for the babylon the society trap.They trapped the people with wage slavery.

[@asves4536]

@@ahop075 it’s good stress

[@louisviii5524]

I live everyday like an adventure, I still live like this, I'm 57, my down fall was the war on drugs In and out of prison. All together 18yrs, now I'm playing catch up. Sucks I don't have nothing, but I'm working on it, first time paying for a apartment, all you said I've done that a dozen times. I never could get it right, my biggest problem was that fast money. Now there is no money in doing bad, I picked up a hard hat and lunch box, and now I'm on the grind I'm hanging on with a prayer GOD BLESS ALL OF US

[@phoenixgarcia4958]

Wow, this hit me in every atom and cell.

[@24js17]

What did you do? Get up pack a bag and leave a note for the fam on the fridge?? 😂 we wish

[@phoenixgarcia4958]

@24js17 I'm a food server. Life doesn't work that way. The design is work hard until you get the opportunity to do better. Then hope it's a big enough window to grow because you better maximize opportunity before someone changes their mind. Plus, you will be tested 3 to 5 times hard not to go backward. After you complete this task in most cases, you are ambitious. But you will only wake up. After you hit the ceiling of your profession. Hopefully, you didn't age out by the time this happened to enjoy life.

[@Musko1]

The most realistic honest response from Joe Rogan... This is straight truth.

[@obeyclan6877]

Yeah and take out the evil that’s robed us... stolen from us... our most preachous beings have vanished... time to kick some royal ass folks... brace yourself... shits about to get real... finallllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 We are as strong as our weakest link and since we had no idea what they were doing to our children (operation underground railroad by Tim Ballard) and now we have a better idea... the ones who created society and caused harm all along will “be chased down the streets and nuced” Quote by George H. Walker Bush... Evilest maniacs go last? Is my prayer today... let’s do this... Time to get our God given animalistic nature back and make dust... who’s with me?

[@jasonpreston2703]

​@jiminy jiminy not just america. America in particular but we live in a system of global capitalism which exists to serve the already wealthy and is the root of the issue

[@jxrizzle111]

Financial bills? No, the group of dudes that all have the name bill that are just constantly up your ass keeping you from living your dreams

[@USGovsOwnersRtheRealEnemy]

That’s rare anymore with Joe. Sponsored by Pfizer

[@jonbon611]

True Joe true...

[@RyanMcIntyre]

Debt is modern slavery

[@luyolomjobo]

All thanks to interest. That was banned for hundreds of years but they decided to bring it back

[@duderno984]

Not if you dont pay it.

[@jwilson4103]

Bullshit. Slaves had no choice. Debt is a choice. Crybaby generation.

[@user-bg2oi4bz3p]

Debt-based economy is coming to a collapse because debt has negative value. Say no to cbdc, central bank digital currency = tyranny.

[@fredswolen894]

Debt is necessary to leverage money and be richer. Why do yall don't educate yourself on finance and investment? Yall gonna stay poor all your lives.

[@cosmiccharlie7399]

Exactly why I'm single with no kids. The pressure that puts on you when you don't make enough money is a terrible burden

[@danamardell1209]

How would you know

[@jessica1580]

@@danamardell1209they probably know through common sense. It takes money (among other things) to raise a child. When you’re already scraping by, and then have a child or children to pay for that’s obviously going to create pressure and financial burden.

[@Berserk1Manga]

​​@@danamardell1209it's not like you cant see everyone around you in that position or anything lol. How often they complain about it, how miserable they sound, how terrible they look. It's obviously less stressful single.

[@jefferyflett6938]

So true! Honoring your commitments and doing the RIGHT THING can leave you stuck and regretting your life.

[@douglasgarrett4521]

And then feeling guilty because you feel that way.

[@drifterz2578]

It's crazy how many of us are suffering in silence . Stay strong gentlemans

[@trustoldpaths1415]

The world caused you to suffer . Keeping inside is all you can do, because quite frankly no one cares. But Jesus that is . Give your troubles to him and be free from sin and hell

[@BustinNutz949]

You won't suffer so much if you stop spending time on YT 😂

[@susanplatt5331]

Women suffer in silence too. Life's hard. The older you get though, the less you gaf.

[@kimmiewise1044]

@@susanplatt5331 Some women, but most can freely leave their situation and take half her husband’s salary and property to go live out her dreams and fulfill them and if a man does that he’s a dead beat, selfish, and unreliable. A woman who does that is empowered, ambitious and determined. Women are constantly given opportunities to live the lives they want even if they are in bad circumstances. But if a man is in bad circumstances he has to make his own opportunities or just stay there until he dies. It’s definitely not the same kind of suffering.

[@rf-uj5sc]

@@kimmiewise1044 Women are never considered empowered, ambitious or determined for taking their husbands money. So tired of these BS strawmen you guys make. This is why your relationships are so garbage, you lack basic empathy for other human beings experiences. Too busy being self absorbed lowlifes. Most women work and earn their own money, or are in the now very normalized dynamic of being the breadwinner and doing all the housework for their useless sack of shit husbands. Men barely suffer in the modern world. ALL their hardships are things women also face, plus women face unique hardships that men dont. None of what this clip said is exclusive to men.

[@alexdenslow7095]

“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life.” - Sir Patrick Stewart

[@IndigoIndustrial]

"I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless. It's frightening, turns the legs to jelly." - Thanos

[@not4theweak00]

well I believe if u r just always losing in life then ur not doing something right , nobody is going to lose all through life and make no mistakes, cuz no one is perfect WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. to not make a mistake would b perfection and there is perfection in no one only GOD himself.

[@lu5445]

@@not4theweak00 wth did i just read, i feel dumber now, im failing at intelligence 😅

[@mohaafrica4995]

That's the power of destiny,sometimes losing is earning.

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

This.

[@sevfan211]

My husband placed himself in that self desperation. We have everything Rogan says to do to not be stuck in it, BUT the mental part. How he was raised, etc. He can’t give himself anything. I have to beg him to grab life and live it. Go fishing! Go be you! But non of that has been allowed for him to have in his life. He always wanted to fly a plane. Even thought of going into the military growing up. Got him an introductory flying lesson. His parents lost it, like I was trying to kill him. And then he never did it. It’s self-induced desperation.

[@shakesrear7850]

The rawest, most savage call to action.

[@NasXShady]

“Whatever you’re doing, do it like your life depends on it” such a great quote

[@arrjee9474]

@@Juru_Valdove No whatever it is that your heart and mind desire you to do or be. Everyone has dreams, very few follow through.

[@floridiantv1351]

@@Juru_Valdove no bro. Try always to improve yourself to find better jobs and always increase your income by using every minute you have available. So in the future you have a better life

[@floridiantv1351]

@@Juru_Valdove you are the problem

[@haroldi.6450]

@@Juru_Valdove I can tell right away you have never lived a hard life.

[@Ummm_ok3]

@@Juru_Valdove OK so what’s your purpose here then? what are you going on about? So you obviously didn’t have it easy So I’m guessing Your attitude is caused by your victim mentality. Because you grew up with “harder struggles” others struggles are laughable to you. Get over yourself and go enjoy life.

[@thomasbona5079]

I spent 2 years digging myself out of the hole, I worked 3 jobs and saved every penny only buying what would keep me alive or if it would pay me back double within a week. I saved enough to buy a house with cash and get out of debt. It was a fixer upper 2 story on 2 acres. Closed all bank accounts. I only use cash. I live my dream, no stress, tiny bills, created a homestead on my 2 acre lot. I work from home. I buy local. That was 11 years ago. If only someone told me to do this when I was 18.

[@nicholassmith154]

Amazing. Thank you for pouring your life into a paragraph, that helps me out and I can only imagine how many people this message will help too.

[@edgar_leon1790]

How old are you now ?

[@brainwin6881]

@@edgar_leon1790 He’s 68.

[@nazmiyepulumur6365]

Yeah because working 3 Jobs is very healthy.

[@bernadettesandoval3990]

​@@nazmiyepulumur6365 not all jobs are 40 hrs a week. Multiple streams of revenue is the goal

[@SC-fx4rt]

This is so true for your feedom as a human. Although part of the problem is people believe they need all kinds of fancy things to make them happy which makes them have to work more to pay for those things. If people could find happiness in simple things they would feel far less burden and perhaps only have to work till they were 50

[@dinglebarry8801]

This is it. This is the key.

[@billarmstrong4684]

I can confirm this is 100% truth

[@orbitpro]

Shits getting hard, I'm not just looking after my family but my sister's family too. Without me we are all homeless.

[@kingclan007]

It's hard on me too.

[@EA-gl9oi]

Jesus ... So sorry, but I know how it is. Hang tough and good luck. Your commitment inspires.

[@quietstorm8174]

What a big heart. I hope everything keeps working out for you. May God guide and be of continued help for all your efforts.

[@vAbAfilM]

You should be proud of yourself! 🎉

[@nasskb75]

Stay strong, what are you doing giving a purpose, you are the man

[@CharlieBangem]

The problem is, once you are there it’s designed to keep you there

[@teresachapman205]

Yep.

[@johnts1]

Well said! 🙏🙏

[@stuart3712]

Imagine you being kicked out of public high school for being in SLD not having passing credits to pass into the 10th and being too old to repeat the 9th because you was held back in the 1st and 2nd grade and not being hired for jobs because you cannot spell or look people in the face when talked to and then being put on ssi at the age of 23 living on below poverty income.

[@curlyhairdudeify]

Exactly, I applied for an optician apprenticeship.... Low and behold it works be 21hrs a week for 4 weeks (month) at $15/hr.... That money doesn't even the rent.

[@craigwestbrook8932]

So very true😢

[@SheheilaGreeler]

“Bills” “Like financial bills?” “No. Buffalo Bills”

[@MishMash22]

She spoke that like a real privileged person

[@Tattletales402]

@@MishMash22 she was thinking of political bills brainlet

[@gravyb4741]

My escape is gonna be in a coffin

[@jamespatrick1548]

You can't plan for strokes and cancer but I'm still fighting like hell.

[@Sundeep6543]

Stay strong.

[@luichinplaystation610]

Good luck

[@riverrich7929]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2GanGdjbaacgaM I wish You the greatest good.

[@textik5821]

i’ll pray for you james

[@jamespatrick1548]

@@textik5821 thank you.

[@tylershouey6851]

Never thought I'd relate to a video so much. The minute he starts giving reasons.... has me wiping my eyes

[@2sscole]

Never heard anything more true and I wish they taught this in school would save so many people from desperation

[@krisb-travel]

As a man who’s currently stuck stuck in that world this one hits home hard

[@maiageia1240]

You're Inside the Matrix you need to escape the Matrix by getting rich

[@plamoretti673]

I'm a woman in that world and most women I know are too. We gotta stop dividing ourselves and unite. Bc if this was a video about "Gen Z not liking commitments and bills" JR would have a field day with it.

[@Jesussaveme85]

Try Jesus he will relieve you of all your burdens and despair.

[@maiageia1240]

@@Jesussaveme85 You're delusional wake to reality

[@barrytelesford5265]

@@maiageia1240 trying to get rich is how you get stuck

[@Robby_Rob]

The way he responded so fast with “bills” really hit home, it’s the truth.

[@shastalivin]

The double edge sword of having a functioning society

[@Btrutaltruth]

Wwll, this is all about noney. And imagine wonen who are always underpaid? What type of despiration do they live?..

[@du_gall]

@@Btrutaltruth Not always

[@reggielou2653]

I like his interview style. Non judgmental. He seems honest, responsible, and strong.

[@resurec8835]

Man this hits me hard. I'm not a well spoken person and I can't explain what I'm feeling but this sums it up.

[@solivagant9902]

“The things you own end up owning you. It's only after you lose everything that you're free to do anything.” ― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club

[@CatalinaFOIA]

^^^THIS 💯^^^

[@rickmcdonald1557]

Damn that hit home~!!!

[@Noturmoney]

So again, we’re supposed to not have a wife, kids, good fulfilling career or business, no goals, just live a carefree life? Sounds miserable because it leads to pointlessness

[@scipioafricanus5871]

I am pretty sure that quote can be attributed to Tyler Durden, dude.

[@Milo-Mike]

​@@Noturmoney whats your Point?

[@gabrielfisher96]

"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation" - Henry David Thoreau

[@wholeNwon]

Of course.

[@susantommis8756]

My dad was still reflecting on his life, with new realisations of where he,d gone wrong, at 95 years old.!

[@jellyfishsii]

I worked for 8 years in this. Now I work for myself. Still not where I want to be but the difference is night and day

[@mrsbluesky8415]

The quiet desperation of being trapped in a job that you hate but it pays the bills and you’re too old to go looking for another job.

[@kevinmccann2228]

Joe is the $100 million dollar man that never forgot where he came from. Dude is a role model in just about every way.

[@chuck5419]

This dude out here having Joe Rogan as his role model 🤣🤣🤣

[@oz-ng4tl]

​@@chuck5419 who's your role model?

[@chuck5419]

@@oz-ng4tl you first

[@alexioiancu]

​@@chuck5419 there's no way that's you in your profile pic

[@shadespellar684]

​@@chuck5419 stay united kings remember the real enemy isint each other its the government putting us against each other

[@A129WOLFY]

A man I see at my mental health team said to me "Most men only get flowers once in their life, and thats at their funeral"

[@moha2748]

Even then i bloody well doubt they’re at least real flowers

[@sabir1208]

Men should buy each other flowers then. Oh right, it's not about the flowers or the gesture, it's about female validation for your fragile ego

[@van2165]

This is why I give my husband flowers. I never want that to be him.

[@Dee-xj4vk]

As it should be, my man would rather get a new game then flowers. Hell he'd prefer food to flowers.

[@van2165]

@@Dee-xj4vk no men deserve beautiful things too

[@robertdoyle6287]

For 30 years I was committed to the marriage then one day I woke up to realize that I was married to the commitment.

[@ContentCrafters2024]

I'd like to give him a hug right now and say thanks man for beeing honest and talk about that topic in public.

[@Antoniognzlz87]

I normally don't comment on videos but this hit home. Can feel like a rat race in quicksand. I wish I had advice to give or a story to tell. Unfortunately, I'm in the trenches myself. I have lots to be grateful for and blessed to have the life I have. Doesn't change the fact that we can feel we are barely making it through. I pray for you all to have strength, resistance, and hope for a better tomorrow.

[@deborahmouille1718]

Get out of debt, period!

[@brycem2161]

Hey man, I feel exactly the same way. On one side I feel guilty for being so blessed when others are not, but on the other, I feel i'm just able to make ends meet, while trying to stay positive for my wife and kids.

[@PortHerc]

I have lots to be grateful for and blessed to have the life I have. Doesn't change the fact that we can feel we are barely making it through...this is the truth

[@Milo-Mike]

So what would you do to change that?

[@curiousgeorge9820]

I set aside $80k plus I have another $25k in my 401k but somehow I still feel trapped 😢 even though I don’t have debt Am I ungrateful to be in the position that I’m in or blessed? I’m only 30 years old Help?

[@JakeFromStateFarm88]

That 60 seconds made this 35 year old tear up. I’m trapped in a very similar world. And I don’t think I’m ever going to get out of it or escape.

[@shannoncompton3870]

Me too. My husband and I both.

[@adugger8406]

get a hobby

[@kingraptor4310]

Plan you escape. !

[@cookiemcboingboing2657]

learn to play dominos, eat raw garlic and dirt beets, and you'll be fine

[@thedude4682]

You will as long as you have a good plan, take personal responsibility and stick with the plan.

[@ohsugar5431]

Finding a partner that works together, comminucates well & plan the financial commitments. You have to do this before your stuck. Live within your means or down size living expenses.

[@mexicanpaddy]

Needed to hear this today

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Same, i thought i was alone but seems more people have bottling up too as well

[@izzymartinez4725]

Same brotha❤

[@AJ-zm5dz]

The things that you own, end up owning you.

[@Tom-S1981]

Yep. That's why they're called possessions, because you end up being possessed by them

[@hardsguitar]

This made me cry... many men suffer more than we know and they don't get the support they need. They suffer in silence.

[@Manny_El_M1.1]

You can let it break you or you can let it feed you. That pain is what forges the nature of your self integrity. My life never had an structure, I am building one for me and my future family.

[@saralee132]

Is this satire? Is Wendy British? Is Super-Fairyman a real fairy man?

[@ummeshariff]

so do women need to do something different? Men suffer in silence because they don't talk to other men.

[@skrublordnord69]

It’s called being a man.

[@michaeldehart6726]

thank you Wendy for calling this out. I'm one of these men.

[@isaiasromero4678]

Shit hits different when you’re life really depends on it .

[@joes6178]

This is especially true in today's world. You can work from 16 to 30, increasing your wages every year thinking you're where you should be with your salary as everything passes you in inflation and you end up living directly across the street from the apartment that you started in when you first moved out, looking outside everyday and reminding yourself that you're still stuck in the same spot after years of work. That nightmare is currently a reality.

[@Nonononono209]

I’m experiencing something similar right now.

[@marvinegreen]

I was that guy for 20 years. After my wife inherited and my son graduated debt free I retired early and moved onto my boat. Best chapter of my life.

[@cyano741]

There's more to this story. You don't just become happy to be free from the people you chose, unless there is something wrong with you, or the people in your life. My husband and I went for compatibility. We are incredibly compatible and operate in synergy through teamwork. We also have quite the passionate marriage, are best friends and truly really like each other deeply. 11+ years and it gets better every year as we work towards goals together in harmony and love. I truly think many people don't understand how important it is for morals/values, temperaments, politics, sexuality, communiction etc to allign. You will come to be miserable if you don't choose wisely.

[@goaskmymom1350]

​@@cyano741 great advice! My wife and I are going on 30 years. Like aged wine, it keeps getting better. Through life's joy's AND hardships...we become stronger as a team. Shalom

[@ben10pa]

@@cyano741 next thing you know, he runs away, turns out this was all your point of view, not his. (Hopefully i'm wrong)

[@cyano741]

@@ben10pa Lol. Sounds like the only point of view here, is the one you are projecting. Maybe you're bitter, maybe you just don't have the experience and think the internet+ your own experience means universal/independent truth. Happy people and couples are out there. We are just too busy living our lives in harmony. The bad stories you see on the internet are there, because unhappy people complain and feel the need to get support. Happy people already do. And most often, when you start to ask questions, and get to the bottom of it, it did not happen because " he got sick of her and traded her in". The majority of the time, there are multiple "aha" explanations, why the relationship was not good, or ended thay way. Sure, there are assholes out there, but when you tend to pick them, there are signs. It is never a " he/she was perfect, and then they were not". Normal, functioning people don't do that, they attract other well functioning people, because they reject the notion of any form of dysfunction. We just don't talk about it. We don't need to. We function well, have functioning friends, familly, healthy bonds and relationships and kids. I know, the internet makes it seem as if that's special. It is not. We are simply not on the internet.

[@ben10pa]

@@cyano741 I see what you are saying, but in this instance we are talking about what men feel deep inside. As much as you two are together, you aren't and never will be, inside his head. By the way, by speaking on his behalf, you are doing one of the main things men want to escape from. Again, I hope I'm wrong on this case, probably am. But don't be so arrogant to think you are 100% safe and certain

[@chevybigblock3311]

I really respect Joe for not forgetting the struggle because it’s really out there 🤙

[@blaster42008]

Joe is rich and has done nothing for his communities. He is fake

[@blaster42008]

Do you respect him for running away from.california?

[@chevybigblock3311]

@@blaster42008 yes I do

[@mattiaskeinnn3317]

​@@blaster42008 i gained respect for joe when he left, who in their right mind wants to live in that human desert dumpster.

[@garrybarry4286]

Forgetting the struggle? he was smoking cigars and joking about killing the homeless. Stop looking to rich celebrities for some kind of moral father figure.

[@julieandco]

The honesty is absolutely refreshing. YES! Attack like you are saving the world. You are saving yourself. Most women live lives of quiet desperation too.

[@Jane5720]

Oh stop ✋. This isn’t just men this is everyone. women have the same commitments as well, if not more.

[@Initial_RX]

That’s why we need to help each other. One can’t push a boulder without help.

[@djbishop30189]

Good luck.

[@Machete778]

Don’t expect anyone’s help if you’re not putting forth the effort and are doing everything you can to help your self.

[@Pat-RickSmith]

I agree 100% quit worrying about what fake a$$ politician you voted for . Maybe try and just respect some else's opinion. Try to think about if we where in a situation where there is a catastrophic weather event would you come together in that moment or do you not help your fellow man because they said so and so was a jerk?

[@OverRule1]

No one has ever helped me except maybe my brother or mom a few times. I learned a long time ago the only person I can truly depend on is myself and no one else. No one is coming to save you. You save yourself.

[@Drownedinblood]

You're talking to the wrong people tbh. A lot of people who listen to Joe Rogan also believe in rugged individualism.

[@frankcuoco1501]

We have to fight depression and win every time but depression only has to win once😢

[@t3hPoundcake]

Annie Jacobsen was one of my favorite guests on Rogan. That was a great episode.

[@user-vo2gt2ry3p]

I have scrolled way too long trying to find her name! Thank you!

[@emosongsandreadalongs]

I'll never forget how unbelievably hopeless I felt when I finally got the job that I had been working toward for most of my life . . . and realized I hated almost everything about it

[@scottpaulson206]

Cmon maaaan, tell us the job ffs

[@davec.3198]

This happened to me. I flushed my career (promising career) and did something completely different. Don't be afraid to make a change.

[@emosongsandreadalongs]

@@scottpaulson206 high school teacher. In retrospect it's ridiculous that I didn't realize what a miserable time it would be. If I'd taken the time to really think about it, I could've avoided a lot of heartache

[@emosongsandreadalongs]

@@davec.3198 I chose not to renew my contract at the end of last school year. Spent quite a long time with nothing but a little online tutoring to make money. Thankfully my wife and I had a good chunk of savings put away. Just when she was starting to get really worried I found a new job that I've been really enjoying so far. I still get to work with high school kids (which I enjoy) but I don't have to plan lessons or grade homework and I really don't have to worry much about classroom behavior management

[@borntodoit8744]

​@@emosongsandreadalongs good for you man secret of real freedom is two fold 1. separate out Financial freedom (investing) from Personal freedom (doing what you love). 2. finding the joy in everything you do say or experience

[@jaytroop1795]

When someone says “you’ve made your bed now lie in it” and it’s hits home.

[@natedyton61]

Worst thing is most people make the bed before realising it's not where they want to sleep.

[@vondahe]

It’s bills, failure as a father, professional failure, relationship failure and beating yourself up over that.

[@jerrylewis9699]

A lot of stuff I don't agree with Joe on, but this he's finally hit me!

[@tedcopple101]

As a self employed person the monthly anxiety of having your income at the whim completely in other people's hands is exhausting

[@jrg305]

Yeah and having to be nice to everyone

[@moi7748]

I know that feeling. I closed my business and took a job working in a harbour - great surroundings and great people, but it wasn’t for me. I eventually went into temping and with no relevant qualifications or experience I was offered a job I would never have seen myself doing but it’s great. Working for yourself does have advantages, but at the end of the day you just need to be happy in what you’re doing without all the stress that is slowly killing you.

[@thelastmelon9446]

Same here. Being self-employed has its perks but feels nowhere near as secure

[@MackDaddyVic]

I mean, I own a pool business and it’s pretty secure. I drive around cleaning peoples pools and they pay me every month. Plus repairs, and installs. Moneys great. Make about $60,000 a year. No employees. Just me. Occasionally I sub-contract work out and that helps. Yeah I could lose all my customers and then be fucked, I think about that all the time but it’s been 5 solid years and so far so good. Don’t see it going anywhere and I’m only 28. Drive a brand new truck as well so it’s reliable. Maybe the pool business is an exception to this idea?

[@wilfredovazquez5101]

​@Victor Conrad That's great man! Trick would be to have someone else do the work and you make the same or better money.

[@user-xc5qf5uu2t]

Truer words were never spoken I'm there right now Joe I'm in that dark place thank you so much for your advice 🙏 I'll take actions like my life depended on it because it does.,!!!!! Thank you for sharing some of your knowledge.

[@ray.a7343]

I live there never enjoyed life just constantly trying to survive and I have accepted this!some people are Destined to be down no matter what

[@TheCr00k6]

"you fucked up, you got yourself stuck." That shit is motivating as F

[@lornalong6468]

You didn't f_¢k up, you swallowed the lie that men should shoulder it all alone. Send you wife out to work!

[@robertojaimes4234]

Motivating?

[@Johnny-on8qr]

Not really it’s just idiot Rohan using profanity. These ideas are not originally his.

[@northwestcoast]

Reminds me of the nutty putty incident

[@PistonAvatarGuy]

Except that no one really gets themselves stuck, most of us are just born into that situation.

[@jayballard9944]

It's also the physical pain of getting older and work beating you down!

[@DoubleDogDare54]

Not always. Depends on your life choices when it comes to work. I'm well past FRA and I'm still working full time. Can't remember the word used but the Japanese have a term for people who continue to work when they are of an age they could retire. The Japanese idea is if you do something you enjoy doing, are good at it and can make money doing it, there is no reason for you to stop working. Keep going. I tried retirement several times. I now know why people fail and die after they retire. It drove me nuts. So I went back to work. Now I'm happy. That's better than going crazy at home. I've taken reasonably good care of myself and don't have any physical need to stop working. If that changes, I'll stop working. But as of right now, every morning I get up and go to work because I want to.

[@lisaclark6134]

​@@DoubleDogDare54 You are the exception; not the rule!

[@DoubleDogDare54]

@@lisaclark6134 The saying is, if you like what you do you don't work a day in your life. I made good choices on that score. If others made bad choices and did something that "beat them down", that's on them. They should have picked another line of work so they could continue to be productive their entire lives and enjoyed being so.

[@brianhowie3996]

As a man in my 60s sacrificing most of my life making it easy for others I live a quiet life now, no partner and paying everything off on my own soon knowing that financial freedom is so close. Every morning dealing with sciatica nerve pain from lower back surgery as a young man. Bill's, kids a wife and working shitty jobs was constant stress blew my back out, but I provided for all and was employed every damn day. A constant grind wondering when it will get better. Millions of men live in this constant grind and desperation and no one cares.

[@watertiteman]

@@DoubleDogDare54 If everybody had your attitude, nobody would do the hard jobs.

[@nightpanda7773]

This is the most important, profound thing I've ever heard Rogan say

[@stevenmorales3745]

Great words

[@Project_Worm]

So profound, all he said was men feel like they can't talk to people and because of that they don't. The answer isn't talking to anyone. It's working, just working non stop to make as much money as you can. 👌 That's a very healthy mindset

[@triforcecarrier]

It really is

[@apollobatista5905]

Commitments

[@upstatecommunications9031]

Me too, boss. I never knew Rogan was so deep. Most of the time he’s talking about killer bears and apes and shit. 😂

[@Pdmplaythroughs]

This is exactly how i am now, i spent 15 years of my life feeling "trapped". Only now at 32, am i truly going out of my comfort zone to break free of this shit excuses of a life i have. Gym, education, courses, work. Everyday, because i know, its worth it!

[@frankjames1955]

If you make bad choices and you're stuck... Time has a Way of circling back to you eventually And you have to be on the right track when it does to take you out ..

[@BigT2664]

"Oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone!" ~John Mellencamp, 1982

[@justinhodges9127]

The thrill is gone . BB KING

[@RMTuf]

Sad....cougar is a woke knucklehead now

[@justin5573]

jack and diane is timeless

[@momohue6432]

I like this song...

[@jonathanhatcher3463]

F**k Melloncompose though.....

[@jbbradford420]

Man this is the greatest thing Joe has ever said and will ever say. I’m stuck again at 46 and trying to get back up

[@mizzury54]

Total hyperbole.

[@kawmort]

Hang in there. You'll have your ups and downs. It's ok to fail, no matter what your age is.

[@707fv]

I was there around same age. I felt I'd never get out of it. You do, and you can.

[@sladka4]

420 isnt helping.

[@duanescot]

You'll get there man, I started my escape at 46, 50 now and getting alot closer to seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, stay strong brother...

[@davidolszowka3716]

PinkFloyd: "ten years have caught behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun!!!!! That's me. Only it's 30 years have caught behind me.

[@diannebuckhout9298]

This is one of the most important things I have heard all my life.

[@paddyonabhainn7232]

“The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation, and go to the grave with the song still in them.” Henry David Thoreau, Walden, 1854.

[@r_dubs90]

What a deep quote. Very sad

[@marilyzu1340]

@@r_dubs90 sad but very very true😪

[@goofyfoot2001]

It was Pink Floyd man.

[@ezekiel5687]

Which makes a lot of men question wtf is the point in staying here, they don't want us anyway.

[@Gjffdcr]

​@@ezekiel5687if the "they" you're referring to is women, i'd just like to clarify... its not that you're not wanted. Most of us actually admire men, and the qualities they (are supposed to) embody, its just that a few bad apples among your gender caused a skewed perception of men, and the reactionary feminazis caused you to think you're hated, but that's not true. Love others, and love yourself.

[@aminthemar]

"Like... financial bills?" No, emotional bills.

[@hiroakihanyu]

yah, kinda true, it's not the financial bills for me

[@007Dirtysouth]

@@hiroakihanyu If you don’t have a wife or kids then you better decide what it is you want to do and chase that. Don’t wait around lol

[@dundalkmacgyver800]

It's both

[@josephvalencia9716]

So sad but alive at the same time.being a man is a champion of failed completely differential windows.

[@thomasconnors7511]

Great points to make a escape from my wife. Been afraid to leave because I don't want yo lose my stuff. If i stay i guaranteed to be unhappy. If i leave maybe i can find happiness.

[@cupidsfckedupfairy3216]

Men don't get enough recognition for all the pain they go through. This is why I say this with all my heart: Men we love you and appreciate you, this world would not be what it is without you. We need you, but most importantly, you need yourself. Thank you for being so resilient. I know words are not enough, but you are. ❤️

[@jso2332]

Thank you

[@jefflh9200]

❤

[@seanwright8786]

I don't know you from a can o' paint but the tears are swelling in my eyes from your words and I'm really saying thank you. Joe is describing where I'm at in life. Real talk.

[@bradyklockenga7765]

❤❤

[@Alexzarr1]

Thank you

[@globalfamily8172]

Living with someone who you think doesn't love you but you love them.

[@lisag.4140]

And then learning MUCH LATER that the place to start is loving yourself by understanding that God’s love is the only love that will fill your heart… perfectly. then you can turn around and give love to another imperfect human.

[@cerealbox6033]

Everyman has been there rich or poor and if you haven't felt that sinking feeling that you messed up then you will

[@m.g5796]

@@lisag.4140 amen!🙏

[@rhodrijohn7411]

​@@lisag.4140 Which gods love? Because the bible god says its okay to sell our daughters into slavery and if they're not virgin should he stoned to death on her father's doorstep, doesn't sound like a very loving god that one. Odin might be nice, Horus is pretty cool too.

[@ggpmf]

Men have a heavy load and nowdays they are disparaged ..very grateful for all these good men do.

[@anafavero1451]

True. That is why you need a strong partner at your side helping with these tasks. Choose you’re wives (or husbands) carefully.

[@superlucidity]

It helps tremendously

[@loualbino5536]

As a man I'm not ashamed to say that this brought a few tears to my eyes. The whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[@christopherbalag9329]

So, you don't have to live in quiet desperation. There is genuine freedom. It rest solely with JESUS in your life and ❤️. So much more to add to that. This is truth!

[@oxydra1916]

Same here

[@Veet]

Stay strong brother.

[@franciscomorales6001]

Can you call yourself a man then? If this brought even a glint of a tear to your eyes then you need to toughen tf up.

[@christopherbalag9329]

@@RP-rm7po Sorry. Was just trying to share some wisdom. I apologize. 😔

[@Democratolition]

My goodness this spoke to me. I wasn’t expecting that to hit me as hard.

[@darrenscriven3963]

This brought a few tears to my eyes because when Joe said “you just can’t wait to run away” he hit the nail on the head with that phrase, because it perfectly well describes how I feel, and god knows how many other people out there do too! His advice seems to have struck a chord of inspiration deep within my soul to finally sort my shit out! I knew today was different when it started with my 21 year old son and I talking about my depression, and then I watched him put his boot on the wrong foot, which made me laugh like I haven’t laughed in a very long time. Shortly after, I come across this short clip of Joe on about his favourite quote and giving advice that brought tears to my eyes but has flicked a switch on within me. Thank you Mr Rogan and thank you, Finley, my son. 😊

[@DavidSanchez-uo2cn]

That was well said , now its time for us to KICK SOME ASS!

[@porakanasa2006]

I hope you cherish every moment that is given to you with your son and find more reasons to laugh even harder. Depression is not easy at all, I don't know what exactly are you going through, but I do want to send words of encouragement to stay strong and to keep reminding your self that every rule has an exception. Not all men wait to run away, some actually find ways to take all the life in. And I am sharing this as a sister of a person who took his own life last year at age 38, leaving behind my two beautiful nephews who are making me stronger and willing to overcome everything coming my way. I also work as a psychologist with disabled people and on daily basis I meet families who struggle to survive, because part of my job is to find ways for them to organize charities for food, cloths and place to live. Sometimes that gives me a perspective on things, but mostly the hardships I face constantly in my life bring heavy burden on my shoulders. So please remind your self of what you thought today, write a note with the quote you like to remind you everyday, sometimes those kind of things work with baby steps. And keep on going tomorrow and the next day. To you Darren and to Finley your son, I wish all the good things coming your way.

[@NELLIESWORLDS]

Never give up. Bc I am the same way but no kids but we r finally caught a break and able to run from the place we r now n have. Better life from living in a apartment that was a basement that has black mold n other things and negative people around to a countryside took six years but finally did it

[@Franciscasieri]

One day at a time...❤

[@ImDino]

Better late than never ♥️ I too had a breakthrough recently. I didn't process my emotions pent up for many years, cried out at the age of 35 and finally started letting go of baggage. It just released when I spoke from the heart about how I felt.

[@tommybotts]

Gentlemen, if you are living a quiet and desperate life and have children, do not abandon them. You don't get yourself out of any situation by running away. Real men take care of their families. Husband's and wives may come and go but children are forever.

[@chenanigans]

Yeah it's wild that he just basically promoted men abandoning their families and children (and everybody is cosigning this) and then in the same breath men constantly complain about having a fatherless society and all the issues that have manifested from that. How about men just take accountability for your actions and man up. You think women don't get tired of and burdened down by being mothers and wives as well? But that's what you all chose to do and be. Or live the single life and have a different set of stress and depression either way your life is never going to be perfect but it's all about how you choose to see it. You aren't a victim. But your kids will be when you abandon them for your own selfish desires.

[@warriox1028]

​@@chenanigans He's not talking about leaving your family behind and literally escaping to another place. He's talking about escaping the dread of barely getting by and spending all your time and money on just surviving. The "bills" tie you down because you can't take on any risk to try something new, or else you'll risk losing your means to paying off those bills and keeping your family afloat.

[@fidelischarles4545]

@@chenanigans Personally i think he is talking about escaping the scenario individuals are in, not running away and escaping your responsibility. Also men in this context is the human race, not men as in males of the society. I could be wrong though

[@dannyboy8336]

@@fidelischarles4545 you are wrong.

[@Harmonious-jm3sy]

I stuck it out 34.5 years with a lying cheating thieving evil narcissistic woman. My children are now grown. I pretended and acted every day that I had the greatest life, wife etc for the children. They never knew how lonely their father was. I could not have been lonelier if I had been the man on the moon. A life wasted, but I didn’t do it for me.

[@marybennett8803]

It's the compounding responsibilities that you weren't really ready for.

[@JohnSmith-nm4zd]

Nothing changes if nothing changes

[@YourMom-en6vc]

"spending all your waking hours outside of whatever shit job you do" I felt that

[@Tim-is-short]

Having a child literally saved me from that sense of hopelessness. I mean, the bills were still there, the career climb still wasn't fixing anything, but at least I had something that made it all worthwhile. Now I have 6 kids and the debt is gone and I'm better off financially than I've ever been. Having kids made me find a way through, gave me the motivation to get things right and learn to prioritize.

[@seaofroses8888]

You are saved, but now your children will live in pain. Endless cycle 🔁

[@billyd5317]

@@seaofroses8888 Get off the drugs.

[@nicholasharris4544]

Please slowly invest and put it in a trust so your kids can have your wealth when you die. Watched allot of my grandmas money get taken by taxes after she died.

[@Tim-is-short]

@@nicholasharris4544 Financial nvestments are so unstable at the moment, all of our RRSPs are down. GICs only offer a 4% return. We're looking for land that they'll be able to build and grow on.

[@Tim-is-short]

@@seaofroses8888 Yes they will. My job is to give them the tools they need to overcome it. That's a large part of what's wrong with society today, people expect to live pain free. They assume that someone else should take care of their problems for them. But all we have to do is look at the most privileged among us and see that regardless of their status, their wealth, their beauty, that they still have pain in their lives. Divorce, abuse, addiction runs rampant among even the elite. So yes, life is pain, but if you have the right mindset, the perseverance, and can find contentment in things that truly matter, the pain is not only bearable, but a necessary contrast to truly appreciate the beautiful moments and opportunities life has to offer. And that sums up kids in a nutshell, the greatest joy that also comes with some of the greatest pain. I've never felt so connected as I do with my kids, but I'm always scared for them and there are times where they break my heart just because I see them growing and know that they'll be going on their own far too soon. My Dad called parenthood "A moment of pure joy, followed by a lifetime of fear, but the best thing to ever happen to him". I thought he was nuts. I guess I am too.

[@philipdennis-rh7uj]

come to the realization that these commitments are a blessing and not a curse

[@ij9096]

That is why gender equality is such a relief. As a family you carry the burden of breadwinning and the care of the family equally.

[@lowkey213]

I think this has to be joe’s most inspirational speech. That one hit home hard

[@Arturo.420]

He has a few good ones

[@saskk2290]

Read it from Thoreau. Far more profound

[@lowkey213]

@@saskk2290 Thoreau? Explain please

[@lowkey213]

@@saskk2290 I’m acquainted with philosophy And psychology. I just can’t keep retain the people who wrote their ideas as part of their ideas. What was he known for that you want to communicate with me?

[@davokelly7876]

Really talk

[@kheperamakhufu7147]

Key words "plan your escape. "

[@Phoenix-qv2jq]

A little random, but when I was a teen, my favorite Metallica song was Escape for that reason.

[@wompaper]

I think execution is more important than planning in that situation. W all have plans and dreams of how we're gonna escape but truth is we're just lazy and don't commit even 20% of our free time to delivering to the plan.

[@DigitalTrunkz]

To anyone out there having a hard time right now I pray it gets better!

[@GenuineAMERICAN333]

True that’s where I am now at 42, at 37 I finally got a job that would set me and my family for life. I am not happy and I am always looking for a way out. I found the stock market back in 2018. Through trial and error I thought this is it. Now in 2023 I’m still working a job I don’t love and still trying to figure out if I can make a living trading. When joe said every waking hour he is right. All my trading was based on other’s guidance and hope. Im learning now on how to be a real trader and it’s taking every waking moment to master it. I get off a 12 hr night shift at 6am and I’m in front of my computer until 10am the 4pm back up for work. I understand what I must do to be successful and I will not give up. Don’t give up people nobody is going to drop a dream in your lap you must go take it