Motard Monday Ep 1 DR650 Vs DRZ-400

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[@jesseheath7718]

DR and the DRZ are pretty similar to the XR Honda series of Enduro bikes. A lot of the emphasis in relation to enduro and , dirt bike engine design these days seems be focused on performance. The high end, highly strung, overly tuned and geared dirt bike engines made by a number of manufacturers don't handle the high consistent RPM's of road use particularly well. The low maintenance , versatility of tough dirt bike engine design is still appreciated in many quarters where the XRS , DRZ DR are the workhorse of choice for those who need a machine that has good power is practical , dependable and lots of fun.

[@rowleyj31]

I seriously considered getting g the DRZ400 after my first DR650 got Tboned. But the simplicity of the 650, the torque, and the weight on the interstate brought me back. And after a few major dumps up in the mountains of San Diego, while the lighter DRZ would have been more fun, I am not as sure I could have ride it out of the crap, broken cables and snapped levers and all, like I did my DR. She has proven her self to be as tough as a mountain goat.

[@MotardSteve]

Definitley man. the Dr is a tractor and it's a great bike for commuting and with the right technique and setup, anything is possible.

[@LoudandDave]

The 790cc big bore kit on the DR makes like 70ft/lbs. Do that and gear it really steep to take advantage of that and it should MOVE.

[@stormperformance]

I have a DRZ400 often thought about DR. Off the show room floor the DRZ400 has less issues (suspension for example). On the highway the DRZ400 is missing weight but easily added with camping gear, gear the bike up and your good. If your a bigger fellow, the DR is likely a better choice. I'm 190lbs. Overall the DRZ is a more rounded bike but I get it, owners I know of the DR love it. Honestly, I would hate to have to make the choice again as the two are so close depending on what you want to do as per this review.

[@kyoakland]

just sold my drz 400 sm amd bought me a dr 650 supermoto with air box mod tm40 pumper carb and a few other things I must say I couldn't be happier with this dr650 it's just as fast as my DRZ and it suits my driving need when I can you on the freeway I'll never get another bike this is it

[@welfarestates8465]

You literally go to every motorcycle video you find and post the same thing on it.

[@kyoakland]

well thanks for reading it lmao

[@len1662]

Kyle Malone jihad allah buck ba

[@tylerrogowski]

I beleived it until the "ill never get another bike.." part lol

[@crypticreality8484]

They're good one's man

[@Dumptheclutchevo]

Had my new DR650 up to 100mph yesterday. And that's on the standard trail[death]wing tires. Very impressed with it. When i supermoto it and stick a yoshi can and bigger carb it'll be even better. Congrats on 1k too bro!

[@MotardSteve]

Thanks man. Glad you got another 650. They will put out some speed when you pin that throttle in 5th. Had mine to 105-110 on sumo wheels and no performance mods. Would like to see what she does now with the few mods I've made. Really need that tm40 carb though! Thank you for the congrats too. Can't wait to check out your DR next month at the meet up.

[@BlazeIncZeroCool]

Great video man I just got a 17 DRZ400SM to replace my CRF250L that was stolen a month ago and I had went back and forth between the 650 and the 400 but went with the 400 for my needs and wants. Definitely an amazing bike other than the engine noise which is much louder than any of the Honda's I have ever owned, supposedly this is normal for a DRZ. I liked your comparisons though and the 650 is a much better adventuring choice than the 400.

[@Jpizzle925]

helped a lot... great video!!

[@Svartboxen]

Congratulations on 1K subs !

[@MotardSteve]

Thank You!!! :D

[@milosvideos]

I hope to ride to heaven on DR650. It is the angels chariot

[@E2Moto]

Nah, you ride on your DR650, shiny and chrome.

[@subixbarbarasson797]

+E2Moto Fukk Yeah!!!!!! :D

[@adventesia245]

valhalla awaits

[@ZSharkPH]

Awesome comment !!!!

[@tacomafan7488]

Angels dont use bikes.

[@This0is0pointless]

that extra weight and low end torque is actually helpful when your on technical stuff where you need traction

[@MotardSteve]

+This0is0pointless Very true, when I took her off road this weekend, being able to lug the engine helped me climb up hills on the street tires.

[@bulletben5837]

great vid steve

[@MattKixmules]

I love my DR650, and have been thinking about doing supermoto conversion on it for a while!

[@Keegan1313131]

I have a 1996 dr650 and it has 26,000 on it (bought it at 20,000 in August of last year) and all I've done is change the oil and put in a new head gasket. Has plenty of power and couldn't ask for a better bike.

[@trevorjameson3213]

I have owned both a DRZ400 and a DR650. I did not like the 400 at all. Due to the close ratio 5-speed gearbox, the 400 was useless as a street bike. It was not a good dirt bike either; my XR250R is a 6-speed, great gearing spread, and is much, much better off road, so much so, there is no comparison at all between the two. My DR650 has a high comp piston, a high performance cam, a TM40 pumper carb, and a full exhaust system. It is a powerful beast, is geared perfectly for the road, and is a fantastic street bike. Handles perfectly, zero complaints. Tons of fun! And, it's a decent trail bike too, easily torquing up any hill with no effort. The 400 had basically no torque, it sucked. And by the way, liquid cooling is a pain in the rear!

[@brettkovak6344]

I’ve been contemplating selling my XR 400 in favor of a DRZ my main goal is to have a 7032 sport bike and a super Moto I’m just thinking about keeping the XR as a 70/30 bike and going with a DR 650 SM I agree the extra weight coupled with torque makes it a nice all-around cruising bike for MY Needs and wants! I live in Vermont so the XR would primarily be for Dirt Road cruising in class four road Riding with just a little tour in between getting from dirt dirt great review thanks!

[@rockbrd1]

Thanks for your help..!!

[@mr.terwilliger5728]

I have a route where I consistently go on the highway 65-75 mph for about 18 miles each way and I would like it to be a reasonably comfortable experience what would you say?

[@alphaetomega]

I have a 13 that DID NOT come with the seal retainer. Careful out there and check your bikes yourself.

[@2phalanges]

got my 650se as my first bike. and the torque scares the shit out of me. even on 5th gear i can still get a good pull when i pull on the throttle. i had it up to 95mph and stills steady as she goes. love it. i change oil every 1500 miles cuss i love my baby that much. ride safe guys.

[@MotardSteve]

Hell yeah man that 5th gear pull is long and fast. love my 650

[@DevilDolphin734]

I'm getting a DR650 before next spring, I can't wait!

[@MotardSteve]

Congrats. Youre in for a treat!

[@robertwaite71]

I have a beautiful 2013 Suzuki Dr 650 all I have done so far was new front sprocket, new tires, the stock tread suck just my opinion though.. it's a bit tall for me I'm only 5" 9 but she is a sexy beast..and like you videos hope to hear and see more of your adventures with yours..keep it up!

[@MotardSteve]

Thanks man. Glad you like the old girl.

[@James-qq2vq]

Went to the dealer yesterday to look at a dr650. Came home with a drz400s!

[@MotardSteve]

+James M nice the 400's are very capable bikes just a bit lacking in power for street cruising but the better choice for dirt

[@sprfly5638]

I had the drz400sm.I have the wr250x now.Both are great bikes.

[@MotardSteve]

Jason Jones Nice. I'm looking at the 17 Husky 701. Just waiting on tax season.

[@beardmantactical6066]

I have a fantastic 1999 Dr650 with plenty of upgrades and I love it to death I even named her Luna

[@jayslinger686]

I have both. DRZ with a 6th gear, an aluminium frame and fuel injection would be awesome.

[@MotardSteve]

Jay Slinger Yeah. I'm hoping other manufacturers start getting into the lower engine size ds segment to give suzuki some competition to drive innovation. ktm already has a solid 390 engine, if they stick that in a DS chassis, things could get interesting.

[@colinhennessy5680]

i own an old Dr 650 im so glad i did theres very little to go wrong if you put petrol and oil in plus basic maintenence they go forever had mine on mountain dirt roads and ordinary roads just as happy on both granted i want to change the deathwing rear tyre to a contintenal or dunlop 606 rear ....might supermotard it at some stage but im happy enough for now .....

[@MotardSteve]

Nice. The DR is a good all around bike that complains very little. The next supermoto I'm looking into is gonna be an xr650r(not the L) or drz400

[@borgir8388]

The dr650 is a beautiful, sturdy old beast. I just love her!:)

[@MotardSteve]

She does have her quirks for sure. The torque is nice for commuting.

[@borgir8388]

+MotardSteve Yep, it is. Got here from your wheelie vid. It is what I want to learn this summer - I just hope I won't flip it over. Just slow and steady. We shall see ;P

[@drewskiii3149]

What’s the after market look like for the DR? I’m looking to get my first bike and I’m 155lbs and debating a drz400 vs dr650

[@MotardSteve]

You wouldn't be disappointed with either option. Both bikes haven't changed in decades so there's a ton of after market for them both. At your weight the drz or Dr would be a good fit. IDK what your physical fitness looks like but I'd say go drz because you'll appreciate the lighter weight and the top speed difference isn't as drastic and you can always swap sprockets to manipulate the top speed and acceleration.

[@bigm3436]

Great video.......still love the klr650 LMAO

[@MotardSteve]

The klr is definitely a more friendly bije for barebones adventure/dual sport riding with the bigger tank and fairings. But it's not as nimble in the dirt because of the weight. Sink some $$$ into the DR and you can have a lighter bike with the creature comforts of the klr. but I'm not knocking the klr, still a good bulletproof thumper.

[@allritythen]

what about driving in traffic with watercooled VS not. I live in Miami and it gets hot. would the water cooled engine be a better fit or do you still think the 650 is better?

[@MotardSteve]

I mean honestly that oil cooler engine shedded heat really good. I never had any overheating issues or anything tbh. Water cooled is definitely more efficient but wether or not you could successfully ride on an oil cooler bike idk. I lived in Texas where the summers we're typically 90-100 degrees.

[@shadowcased]

Torn between tire capabilities and riding style. Need a street tire with side wall knobbies

[@Herbymac0811]

Not a track guy but find myself off road now and then. Would mostly use a bike for super cheap daily driver back and forth to work. 30 to 45 minutes drive mostly highway. I’m thinking the DR650 would be perfect for this. Thoughts guys ?

[@MotardSteve]

+Ciaphas Cain yeah the big vire loves cruising. Probably just want a windscreen and tweak the gearing to your liking

[@Izreal3345]

I agree wit u on this Steve-o both great but has its pros and conns

[@MotardSteve]

Yep just gotta weigh those pros and cons and choose what fits you best. Thanks for checking this out.

[@Izreal3345]

Dude I always check u out bra u coo wit me

[@MotardSteve]

+Izreal 3345 ha thanks man!

[@carbq5280]

the drz 400 needs the cams lifted out to adjust and check the valve clearances...I have a 400sm and am dreading the soon coming service interval

[@g4lines197]

How many miles do you need to do that?

[@carbq5280]

@@g4lines197 I think around 15,000 miles

[@seth7080]

What exhaust do you have on the 650? That 0-60 sounded nice

[@MotardSteve]

Two brothers M7 is what I had with no baffle

[@rockbrd1]

Steve any idea on the DR 650 about the 3rd gear grinding some bikes encounter .? Thanks

[@MotardSteve]

2006 and onward got a different 3rd gear set, it still has a noticeable whine in 3rd, but mines did that since I bought it at 18,xxx miles and it's about to hit 26,xxx soon. No issues yet. but Spartan Adventure had an 04 I think and his third gear shot out the case while on the highway. So I'd say any bije you plan on getting search the forums for issues like that and swap parts out if needed.

[@808Mark]

I'm debating about which to get as my first bike. I live on Kauai in Hawaii and the fastest speed limit is 50 mph and most roads are only single lane. No free ways. I would primarily use the bike for 20 min commutes to work and home and very rarely off road. I'm leaning more towards a drz400.. what do you guys think?

[@MotardSteve]

I'd say go drz400 the drz will do 50 easy I can swing 70 but it gets a bit buzzy. Plus the drz is a tad light so if you ever did decide to go off-road you wouldn't fight the bike as much.

[@808Mark]

Thanks man

[@LoudandDave]

In theory you could smash the oil cooler on the DR just like you could smash the radiator on the DRZ. I think both bikes have their up sides. The DR650 is definitely better for commuting, especially if you have to do any highway. The DRZ does highway fine, but the DR is definitely better at it.

[@MotardSteve]

Yeah I think I'm gonna go with a high compression piston and stage 2 cam over the 790 kit , but not 100% on that yet. I did notice the DR seemed to have some more top end to it when riding with a couple DRZ guys around town on the highways. And you make a good point about smashing the oil radiator. I like both bikes just seemed like the DR was the Swiss army knife out of the two for me. Wouldn't mind having a drz for building as an extreme dual sport setup though.

[@stormperformance]

Good honest review, tough compare. Both are excellent. As you pointed out the extra weight and lower height plays to the 650 advantage on the highway. But interesting, take a 400 lower it, add the extra weight and they are dame near the same (this is my 400s). Ridding style maters. Going single track? = Then 400. Some Fire roads highway mostly? = Then 650. Here is the kicker.. The 400 can be setup to do both! The 650 cannot be setup to do single track well as it is simply to heavy. This is why I own a 400 and dress it up, down as needed. Still, the more highway I do as I get older.., I sometimes think, in a soft voice hmm, 650! :-)

[@MotardSteve]

yeah I'm honestly thinking about a tiny but potent wr250r to get eventually.

[@stormperformance]

Another good one. Watch the reviews on the wr250r vs drz400 (several out there). Head to head, the drz400 was selected more often. lower price, better highway even with 5 gears vs 6, less shifting, less stalling..really, a guy needs one of each!

[@curly27784]

Change that super restrictive exhaust and rework the carb, then check the horsepower of the DR650.

[@bongodave13]

+curly27784 My DR has a TM40 Mikuni carb and a full FMF exhaust. It jumps when I ask it to! At a minimum, just getting a lighter muffler and opening up the intake will increase power and knock off a good 10 lbs. of ugly weight up high and to the rear. The first thing to change on a DR is the seat. The next is the intake/exhaust. Lighter and faster is always better.

[@MotardSteve]

+Bongo Dave I plan to keep my dr another year before getting something like a converted trail bike(leaning towards ktm 525 exc). I'll be re jetting it and opening the airbox this year and finding an aftermarket header.

[@zzdoodzz]

Only drawback to changing the exhaust to aftermarket is you will hear the backfire popping on decel way more then you normally do with the stock exhaust.

[@TaijutsuSenpai]

drawback?

[@NorthwoodsNomad]

Boot ... if you open up the air box , and proper jetting that coincides with your aftermarket exhaust system, that will cure the backfiring issue .

[@garychief2338]

+MotardSteve which bike would you suggest for a 300lb guy? I've been torn between *these* two bikes not knowing what to get. I don't ride yet but I practically grew up on two wheels and it's a feeling you just can't duplicate.

[@MotardSteve]

A lot of people say the 650 is better for heavier people because it makes power lower in the revs and has superior torque to pull the extra weight. Plus the DR is more planted feeling than a drz and less intimidating for shorter riders.

[@garychief2338]

MotardSteve awesome, I'm 6' 1" 300lb and not afraid throw my weight around.

[@michaelblencowe4241]

Ya I guess. Had a one near me when I was kid and there isn't any near me know

[@brentonhobson]

whats that intro song!? (the decription didnt work for some reason)

[@MotardSteve]

Brenton Hobson old song I recorded. No idea if it's still on my computer somewhere or not. I'll try to find it and re upload if possible.

[@brentonhobson]

MotardSteve , even better, no worries its all good. thats a nice little riff.

[@thomasfrye9403]

Thanks👍 I wanted to fix your mirror☺

[@dwilly2037]

+MotardSteve im upgrading from the dr 200s and havent decided with the 16 drz400sm or 13 dr650. i like the extra gadgets from the 400 and i rarely see highway. its all twist and tunrs and mountains. basically cruise around 60. but i want to be able to pass someone. which one would be the better bike?

[@MotardSteve]

I'd say go drz. it's lighter and from what you described it will do that kind of riding just fine.

[@dwilly2037]

thanks for the quick response lol. thats what i was thinking, was the drz. the only thing that had me wondering is about 2grand difference in price

[@georgemcfly1205]

I'd prefer my old DR350. Loved having a 6th gear

[@chrisredfield3240]

In the yellow white and purple i thought this was a 1998 dr350se

[@westboundNinja1]

These still good bikes to buy? How reliable is kick starting. I've never had one.

[@strictlystreet1517]

I love my 2013 DR650/790 big bore supermoto..

[@kyoakland]

Strictly Street i know the 790 is great how is it on the highway

[@strictlystreet1517]

Kyle Malone can ride at 80mph for hours no issues (smooth)

[@JeremyDovin]

Very good review man!!! I am still on the fence on whether I should get a drz400 or dr650. At first I was planning on purchasing a crf300L but then I reconsidered because of the limited power 22ish hp. I see the drz and the dr make significantly more power than the 300L. More power equals more fun. I want to ride back country roads mainly with minimal city commuting. I will almost never ride offroad except for gravel trails or dirt trails if anything. I do want to wheelie the bike I choose. I like the newer technology on the drz but the speed on the dr is faster and can be made better with mods. The dr which turns me away is the excessive weight (366lbs is a damn heavy bike) also it looks older fashioned with ancient technology. Im still very unsure what bike to pick. Let me know your opinion, thank you man

[@aBoatFullOfSeamen]

Buying a dr650 was the best decision of my life. No off-road tho? Grow up

[@JeremyDovin]

Cool thanks man

[@cornholius]

i'd rather ride a dr650 or any other enduro to a crotch rocket any day. old man or not. not an old man btw. The simplicity of the design makes it similar to a toyota 22r pickup truck as far as accessibility and maintenance goes. I change my oil after every 600 miles of street or 200 miles of dirt riding. I ride it hard on the highway due to its' current low gearing, and end up burning my oil up faster so that's primarily why I do it so often. I need to look into buying some bigger sprockets.

[@Suzuk1r1der]

Hey Motardsteve what exhaust have you got on the dr650

[@MotardSteve]

It was a two Brothers m7

[@dry509]

What should I love to pay for a new dr650? What are maintenance requirements?

[@MotardSteve]

Change oil and feed it gas it's an easy bike to take care of

[@timsilva1944]

I previously owned a DRZ 400 S for dual sport use. Good, not great for off road/single track. OK on roads at reasonable speeds, but I felt like I was working the motor too much at highway speeds. Kinda buzzy. Since then I have purchased a 2012 DR 650 and an 01 DRZ 400E.The E, being 30 pounds lighter than the S, is much better on single track. Plus no indicator lights to break off! Low maintenance and super reliable especially compared to other high strung dirt bikes or Dual sport KTMs and such. The 650, for me is a better street bike. More torque, so It's not necessary to gear it down for low end grunt, which leaves you with a more comfortable cruising rpm. The 650 will definitely off road OK, But you will give up some due to the increased weight and lower ground clearance. Both bikes will need suspension mods especially if you are over 180 pounds and want to ride rough back roads or dirt. The 650 will require a front wheel and adaptors to make a SM, Whereas you can buy a DRZ 400SM and ride! Yes, I know this is a SM comparison video, I Just thought my knowledge could be helpful. Be honest with yourself with what you really want from your bike.

[@MotardSteve]

+Tim Silva exactly man.

[@alexwatts1757]

what state r u i.

[@mxgryan]

I agree with about everything you said. I'll take my DR650 any day over a DRZ400 unless I'm literally just wanting to ride wheelies and hooligan and NOTHING else.

[@MotardSteve]

Yeah my dr650 was a tank man.

[@jesseheath7718]

The Drz400 is extremely popular here in Australia at least in dual sport trim. However the DRZ motard is the biggest selling factory SM by a decent margin. Why? Because the DRZ's gem of a motor is as low maintenance as they come, often described as bullet proof thus requiring a fraction of the serving as other dirt bikes like KTM and Husqvarna even if ridden hard.The DRZ400 is nimble and flickable regarding street performance with a liquid engine able to handle humid temperatures in stop start traffic and being a single cylinder Enduro it is a genuine motard not a naked street bike like perhaps ducati. I love my DRZ. That said the Dr is perhaps better for highway use and more road touring duties.

[@MotardSteve]

All true and good points.

[@comixof2morrow]

but I do like the looks of a Dr with the right plastics

[@WilliamR-nt5ek]

Yeah I'm looking to purchase a DR650 It's actually a little cheaper then the DRZ400 & the SuperMoto 400. I used to ride in my youth.. the Canadian River in N. Texas Panhandle. Through my 20's. Now 66 LOL I'm wanting to ride again. To have a duel sport bike. I've kind of been on the fence... thinking all I need is like the Honda crf 250L. But these days I sport a pretty fat ass. So I ain't sure the 250 is gonna have the power I'm gonna need. Most likely all I'm gonna do is some jeep trails maybe some easy single track. I won't be trying to ride my old speed. But at the same time.... if I have some traffic riding now and then I want it to be respectable. The Honda 250 is tempting... it's got modern design.. F. Injection.. 6 gears … but it's weight... it's 317 and the 650 is 366 50-ish pounds difference but a butt load more power then Honda's 250. Everyone that rides these Suzkie's likes them and swears by them. I just don't know which side of the fence to fall on. Price difference isn't a factor. I donno. Good Video

[@MotardSteve]

If you're not doing gnarly trails and want better highway manners go with the 650. Plus the extra torque from the higher bore goes well with heavier riders

[@jeffreyfernandez2037]

can a person fit in the back of this bike or only the rider can sit?

[@MotardSteve]

you can carry a passenger bit it's not the best bike for the job

[@DJDoubtIt81]

I wheelie all day long. I've owned both. The DR650 is a way more reliable bike. Honestly the DR650 is more exciting to ride. The sound is awesome! Mine is a full desert/motorcross track bike.

[@MotardSteve]

Matthew Bolt Nice man. I know one guy that can do 12 O'clock fender scrapes on his DR SM. The weight doesn't help but it can be done with the determination and practice. I'm ready to pick up a new sumo this spring. Appreciate you checking out the video.

[@DJDoubtIt81]

MotardSteve I can wheelie 65mph wheelie as long as I want. Very easy. very good center point. Will have to get it on video

[@MotardSteve]

Matthew Bolt I'm gonna learn lot stunting this year so I'm looking into a lighter bike and most likely something orange. If you ever take video of it let me know and I'll check it out.

[@DJDoubtIt81]

MotardSteve myspace.com/djdoubtitentertainment/video/matthew-bolt-aka-dj-doubt-it-1-mile-wheelie/4747493 That's years ago wheeling on my 400

[@mxgryan]

Matthew Bolt a motocross track bike? Lol

[@michaelgrimes5588]

The 650 is a awesome bike...I think it's only issue people really have is "it's not a 400sm".... A nice bike is a nice bike because that's what it is, not because it's better than another bike

[@fazer7888]

is the 650 still capable for some boyou riding ?

[@MotardSteve]

TheBasher 4x4 I'd say as long as you got good tires and posses the skill to do so. it's heavier but holds momentum well so as long as traction is available it will do fine.

[@marte1a256]

How you make it sound like that?

[@MotardSteve]

Two Bros m7 exhaust is discontinued now though

[@SkyThoughtss]

What do you think is better for like 40% on road and 60% off road?

[@MotardSteve]

I'd say drz. drz is lighter for offroad and still similar power curve just slightly less top end.

[@zzdoodzz]

Depends on the rider. I own a DR650 and have rode both. The DRZ400 is a lot taller bike and has less power. The DR650 has a lower seat height that can be lowered another 1.5 in from factory height on top of that. Also the DR650 has a hell of a lot more torque, you will shift less and can lug it more when being lazy. I ride my DR650 a lot off road and the stock gearing is great, it will go 80mph no problem and you can lug it down low with so much torque. We have a riding buddy that had the DRZ400 and has since switched to the DR650 and loves it so much more. Not saying the DRZ400 is bad, but the DR650 is a great machine.

[@MotardSteve]

+Ed Boots oh no doubt the dr is a great machine. I had inexpensive for almost 2 years before trading it for a z1000

[@cby1978able]

I really want a KTM690 enduro but they are so overpriced compared to the DR650. The KTM runs about 11 grand and the only things you get for the extra 4k is fuel injection, water cooled and abs. The DR650 is my #1 pick.

[@65elcamino283]

the dr650 is a pretty damn good bike

[@MotardSteve]

+65elcamino283 Yeah it never let me down when I had it. And made me love big bore singles for that low rpm grunt. Probably a good reason I now own a Husky 701sm vs something else.

[@michaelblencowe4241]

Can't believe you pasted Dairy Queen!!!

[@MotardSteve]

+Michael Blencowe Are they really that obsolete these days?

[@CollinMac96]

I feel like the Dr is too tiny for me. It feels physically small. The drz fit me a lot better although the seat sucks. If the dr was a bit taller id pick it over the drz everytime.

[@MotardSteve]

Yeah the Dr is definitely shorter, even more so with SM wheels.

[@bromatoast8784]

The klx650r is liquid cooled and a 650.

[@shaymtbrider7244]

There is diffrence in hp . Drz 400 hp is 15hp less except e model . Stock drz 400 is not fun bike u have to do modify it n torque is where 650 shine.....

[@SORBCOINC]

Anal oil?! LOL...Ya set yourself up for that +MotardSteve :D Thanks for helping me make a more informed decision about which model DR to buy myself. I prefer a swiss army knife over a bread knife. DR650 will fit me well. Thanks again for this video +MotardSteve

[@evanschmidt458]

Great video! I own a drz400 and my dad has a 650..... I LOVE my "lil bike" way more.......my dads is WAY faster!

[@MotardSteve]

Yeah they are both equal on power they just put that power to the road in different ways. You can't go wrong with either one.

[@4637bigred]

Motard motard motard motard

[@kindpanda1075]

Did making it into a supermoto make a noteworthy difference to the CG?

[@MotardSteve]

cg? It makes it more planted and flick able in fast corners.

[@kindpanda1075]

+MotardSteve Awesome. I might convert mine then.

[@94SexyStang]

650 is a PIG off-road........the 400 is a REAL dirt bike, and can float over everything that the 650 is forced to "go slow" threw.

[@bhrbehavioralhealthracing30]

lol he sure looks like he rides like hell lol

[@MrOquedo]

+Kapsol riding through sidewalks and shit...

[@bhrbehavioralhealthracing30]

looks like a fun bike to ride

[@sparty1234]

400s is LIFE

[@MotardSteve]

:D

[@sprfly5638]

Ride it hard Steve and rip it around.just be careful,she's a big girl.

[@MotardSteve]

Jason Jones Yeah she was a ripper when I had her but got something else in mind for Spring. Appreciate the comment man.

[@punxride024]

you sold me at more torque

[@MotardSteve]

That torque comes in handy, especially when you wanna gear it higher. Won't feel as sluggish in the lower gears.

[@FreddyTroche]

hello. maybe you can help me, im thinking of getting a klr, crf250l, dr650 or drz400. which one you recommend

[@MotardSteve]

+Freddy Troche I'd really need to know what kind of riding you plan to do to really recommend one of these over the other, because they all have their strong and weak points.

[@FreddyTroche]

+MotardSteve i will like a bike to go to college, home do some light off road.

[@MotardSteve]

Honestly with these bikes listed, they will all commute about the same. the 650's will do better on the highway with the higher weight so they will be more stable and less prone to being blown around, but that extra weight and older tech suspension will suffer off road. Fine if you're only planning on some gravel roads and light trails but it will suck for anything tight or technical. crf250l will be good for the fuel injection, but its quite a gutless bike, but because of that it will be less intimidating to a new rider, but easy to grow out of. Honestly I'd say the DRZ would be your best choice simply because the drz isnt a widow maker, but is pretty potent for a 400. It can handle highways around 65-70 depending on how its geared. Also its around 310 lbs so will fair better if you start to do more technical off road. All the bikes you listed are super reliable. The DRZ also has the most mods out of all of them from the aftermarket. If it was me I'd say go DRZ. Or if FI is your thing I'd look at wr250's as well. Not as powerful as the drz, but plenty of people like them as they are super reliable and can make decent power once you let the motor rev out.

[@FreddyTroche]

+MotardSteve we no have the WR here. I believe the 2016 DRZ its not available until August. DR650 will be $7k flat. i can pay that for a 650. the crf250l its $6k, for a 250 thats crazy. DRZ almost 8k. but im really thinking about the dr650. thanks!!!

[@MotardSteve]

Freddy Troche The 650 will be good if you're not wanting to get into any hooligan riding or technical trails. I'm not saying it can't do that stuff, but the extra weight is gonna make you work for it, but then again the DR does have a nice top end and weight to make it a good street machine. I'd say if you're feeling the dr then by all means go for it.

[@SilverBro96]

I want that DR650 😍

[@MotardSteve]

It got sold last August would like to see who has if now, just to see how it's been. Got good memories with that thing.

[@SilverBro96]

MotardSteve bet that thing was a ball, all my fishing spots have long trails so i want something like that to rip them up, the KLR 650 kawasaki is a beaut also

[@eviltango]

dr650!!!

[@ericfastclip9959]

I have a 2003 DR 650 and bought it New! My first DR 650 I bought was a 1993 put 24000 miles on it of course jetted and super trap slip on! Traded it in on New 1995 put 18000 miles on it! Jetted and Piped! (Same) But in 1996 Suzuki revamped the DR 650. I am not one of those who buy the first year of anything! Time and life changes so I got out of Duel Sport Riding! Years went by and I said F it, I am going to go back to The Bush Hog! So I bought my 2003 DR 650. Bottom Line every DR 650 I have owned have been a Great Duel Sport bikes! BTW cool video! You Made the right Choice with the DR 650! Check out my videos! Later!

[@MotardSteve]

+Eric Fast Clip! Yeah man. I've got a soft spot for my DR. Even though I plan to buy a 2016 wr450f and tag it for the street with sumo wheels. I think my DR is always gonna be around.

[@oasisoasis21]

What exhaust u got

[@MotardSteve]

+oasisoasis21 Two Brothers M-7 exhaust. It's nice and loud.

[@oasisoasis21]

+MotardSteve Yep had the same one back then, it was sooo loud. Just bought a 2009 DR650 and still wondering which exhaust to get. Yoshimura so far...

[@MotardSteve]

+oasisoasis21 I like the m7 but hate that there's not a full system for it. Will probably go powerbomb/powercore4 on my next bike.

[@monkeynts]

dr350 ftw

[@ct9847]

Like the 650 way more

[@comixof2morrow]

I like the 690

[@MotardSteve]

I got a 701sm now so I feel ya on that

[@matthewtrent2019]

Nice vid, but you repeated yourself SO MANY times lol

[@amybast2365]

That road was so not interesting.

[@MotardSteve]

thanks

[@furiousgeorge00]

The DR650 will hurt your wallet. There are so many mods available it becomes very addicting to farkle the hell out of it. I dropped $2000 into mine over 4 years before I sold it.

[@MotardSteve]

+furiousgeorge00 very true. Lots of stuff to put on the old suzukis

[@22ryanoc]

It is a slippery slope. Bmws are the same way.

[@AdventureCayman]

*****You have to love these experts like MotardSteve that like to spew out his ideas as facts when the reality is he really doesn't know what he is talking about. This guy is obviously not a mechanic and doesn't fully understand how these things really work.

[@MotardSteve]

You gotta love dumbshits on the Internet that can't disagree and move on with someone's opinion, and instead write a whole paragraph on how their opinion is better....

[@AdventureCayman]

+MotardSteve - yep I don't like those dumbshits either, but I don't see how that is relevant here. I am still looking for the dumbshit that didn't agree and wrote an entire paragraph. Looks like MotardSteve also doesn't understand the meaning of words and some basic concepts of the English language....since we are talking about dumbshits and all.

[@MotardSteve]

+AdventureCayman Just proving my point now....

[@AdventureCayman]

+MotardSteve - Ok, go ahead......

[@GladiusJon]

+AdventureCayman So I just happen to be a Master Certified Technician. ( Which Is better then a Mechanic) I Just watched this entire Vlog, And Im Here to tell you. MotardSteve Was DEAD ON , in everything he said in this video. The Basis of this video was, the DR is a more Simplified Design and is More Reliable. Which Is 100% true. Case In point, The DRZ is liquid and Oil cooled, the DR is oil cooled. The DRZ has Dual Cams, The DR has a Single cam.. How Many more Moving Parts are Involved in just those two Points I bring up? Quite a few... Thats Quite a few More Parts that can go wrong as well. We havent even Talking about total Power Output Potential. I would love to see a DRZ obtain 75 foot lbs of torque after Modifications. I OWN a DR and I would prefer a DRZ for its lightweight. But thats the only reason I would Have a DRZ over a DR.

[@Black70Fastback]

which one is better for homosexuals? is it the DR? i think its the DR.

[@MotardSteve]

You might have to go ask the mirror for that answer

[@Black70Fastback]

mirror mirror on the wall, what bike was i riding earlier today? ffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck! it was the DR

[@MotardSteve]

+Black70Fastback at least it wasn't a BMW gs

[@handyman7297]

Dr650 engine its too hot seat is awful gas tank is too small

[@RecklessPedro]

This is not a comparison video This is you convincing yourself that you bought the right bike when in all reality you bought the wrong bike

[@MotardSteve]

+Peter F maybe so, either way I have a 2017 husqvarna 701 am now, so that's better than both these bikes ever will be. 😎

[@RecklessPedro]

MotardSteve more expensive yes but better is arguable

[@wholesome4028]

Peter F how is it arguable? not trying to be a dick but the husqvarna 701 is said to be an amazing bike, it has well over double the horse power of the dzr400 but is still said to be very reliable while only costing about $2,500 more brand new so id say its definitely a better bike in most ways. tho i personally am thinking of getting a drz400 because that would be my first real bike and i feel it wouldnt be smart to start on a 701

[@RichieD088]

The 400 is a dog..

[@michaelzpalmer]

$2500 more? Jump on that deal! Where I'm at I can get a DRZ or DR for about $7,000 OTD on a good deal, cheapest you'll find a 701 would be $12,000 OTD if you're lucky. That's a substantial difference. I'd love to get a 701 but I'm nowhere near good enough a rider to take advantage of what the 701 offers over a DR to justify the price disparity. If I had a large disposable income I'd get a 701 for sure though.

[@Cayoot]

Well, as a vet with 10 years working for Uncle Sam and a retired prison guard, I hardly consider myself a prude or of a delicate nature. I just get disgusted with people who have to insert expressions that refer to bodily functions into every sentence with no reason. Maybe I got sick of listening to the "convict talk" back in the prison. Now I prefer to listen to people who express themselves with some thought and imagination. Notice, I'm NOT insulting your intelligence, just saying that it seems (to me) like a really lazy and disgusting way to express your thoughts.

[@MotardSteve]

Well to be fair this video is pretty old and I was a bit more immature back then so 🤷

[@Cayoot]

MotardSteve I'm really glad that you pointed that out. After reading your response, I went to check out one of your newer videos. I just watched your video on the Viking Cycle Jacket. I have to say, great video! I really enjoyed both the content and your style. Thanks. I am now a subscriber to your channel.

[@blessedbethecurse]

Doesn't the DR650 actually have the better power-to-weight ratio than the DRZ-400 anyway? DR650: 46 hp, 39.8 lb-ft torque, 366 lbs wet DRZ-400: 39 hp, 25.6 ft-lb torque, 319 lbs wet

[@Bungle]

Please don't say vlog.

[@MotardSteve]

Why?????

[@davehenderson1415]

650 still makes more horsepower according to Google.

[@94SexyStang]

and weight is a MUCH bigger advantage on 2 wheels.

[@Cayoot]

IT's too bad, this would have been such a good video if you hadn't used so much foul language. I eventually got too disgusted with all the cussing. I couldn't finish listening.

[@MotardSteve]

Sorry to hear you're a prude. 🤷 Maybe you should go lay down and watch some paw patrol 👌😁

[@axelgerard9876]

Not remotely popular, you're full of it. It's a terrible motard too.

[@MotardSteve]

That's just your opinion bro. 👍