Mother Falsely Accuses Hispanic Couple of Attempted Kidnapping | Katie Sorensen Case Analysis

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[@thestraydog]

I have the unsettling feeling that even though she knows she made up the whole incident in her head, she still doesn't believe she did anything wrong.

[@keivajones1865]

She doesn't in fact she feels that she brought attention to an important subject . The hoax was worth it even if it almost destroyed someone's life

[@malumusera]

Racist, narcissistic and stupid overall

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

​@Keiva Jones yep people who tell "noble lies" are the most dangerous. Not only do they not see the problem, they often double down.

[@teesh871]

Youre right that is probably the most unsettling thing...my other worry is I wonder if other people are validating her behaviour.

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

@@teesh871 more than likely all her life / her culture as well as Faux news

[@pammmmm]

I think that the Martinez’s should sue her…. How awful to have your name put out there for doing nothing

[@metalman6708]

People think that it's super easy to just sue someone. It really isn't at all. Especially for something like this. You'd have to prove in court she knew what she said was false AND that it caused you significant financial damages. It also cost a significant amount of money that you just hope that the judge rules in your favor and you get that money back. Also she has to have money for you to win. She's not exactly a millionaire. You usually sue a company and not a person. Because then the court will make you sell off your assets to pay for it.

[@tessaducek5601]

@@metalman6708 Exactly! I was going to state something similar. You said it better.. 👍👍👍👍👍🎯

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

shopping while latino

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

@@metalman6708 wrong usually attorney take these cases on a contingency basic and get a percentage of the settlement if the case is won

[@crimeandcrafting]

@@user-xg3uy6hq9g they certainly won’t take a case on contingency that they can’t win. They can’t win this case. The couple would have to prove there were actual damages, not just hurt feelings, true loss of money or some other valuable thing. Then they’d have to prove she did this intentionally and maliciously. She’s just a psycho and an annoyance And most importantly like metal man said, she’d have to have deep pockets

[@Dh-rp7gg]

Thank goodness for security cameras. Accusing innocent people of stalking and trying to kidnap children. She could have ruined their lives forever!!

[@bthomson]

It seems to me that since we can now often prove the untruth of such a damaging lie that the punishment should be stiffened. If you lie to hurt others and we can prove it maybe you deserve real time in prison?

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

or gotten them lynched 40 years ago

[@jackiegrice714]

@@bthomson I don’t know….shouldn’t the punishment be directly related to how much harm the crime causes, not how easily someone can be caught? I mean, it’s probably not that difficult to get away with a random murder because there would be no motive or chain of events to tie the perpetrator to the crime-but I want a random murderer to serve more jail time than someone who fabricated kidnapping stories in well lit, camera monitored parking lots.

[@TheSahand68]

Emmett Till got lynched because of false accusations ... there were no cameras then ...

[@walkitoff.]

​@Road Runner Billiard Club yes you should be punished to the extent the crimes your accusing someone of.

[@ph11p3540]

Once you are accused of being a child predator, your life is essentially over. That couple is incredibly lucky that cameras proved their innocence so quickly.

[@danielkomorowski7966]

I had a friend when I was young. He was 17, his girlfriend was 15. They ended up getting in some trouble like teenagers too, while when the cops wrote him up, they wrote him up for corruption of a minor and sexual assault. To this day, you can't live near a school and he has to introduce himself to the neighbors every time he moves. 1 I'll willed stroke of a policeman's pen can ruin your life

[@ph11p3540]

@@danielkomorowski7966 I have to assume you meant he was convicted not just charged. Huge difference and one of them can be expunged while the other stays with you for life.

[@danielkomorowski7966]

@@ph11p3540 oh yeah, most certainly convicted. You're already guilty, as soon as you are accused, you already know that brother.

[@airam-sj2172]

Yes, no matter how innocent you are proven to be. There is still people that believe it!

[@ph11p3540]

@@airam-sj2172 That's all it takes and they never, ever go away

[@Darth_Starkiller]

The experience was traumatic to her? Just imagine how traumatic the experience would have been to the couple you falsely accused if the incident wasn't caught on camera.

[@alexeysamokhin9629]

Most of false accusations do not have undeniable evidence to clear the accused, resulting in expensive legal costs and life stress or even false convictions.

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

@@alexeysamokhin9629 good thing the cops did an actual investigation instead of just automatically siding with the woman because she is white

[@shandya]

That’s how narcissistic people do. They only think of themselves.

[@jd4655]

She tried to SWAT these people with more steps. Sending law enforcement after people with false reports of violent crimes can get the accused killed.

[@steveolotu52]

In the "good old days", they would have been lynched.

[@SeauxNOLALady]

She didn’t want to press charges?!? People attempted to abduct your children, something she narrowly avoided, but she just wanted to report the incident to protect the community. That’s a giant red flag right there. Katie’s willingness to accuse perfect strangers of something so horrendous, which will likely have a devastating impact on those strangers, is unhinged. Those people could have their freedom and rights stripped away in her attempts to gain attention for whatever reason. That’s sickening

[@alexeysamokhin9629]

The narrative on “I don’t want to press charges” or “I’m not 100% sure” is just legal tactics to avoid accountability in case the lies are exposed. I know some crazy case when the lawyer was recommending doing EXACTLY THAT to their client to falsely accuse someone for financial gain.

[@edgybarbie77]

💯

[@alexeysamokhin9629]

@Bee R usually if the case of a criminal nature, the Police could decide to press charges by themselves, even if you EXPLICITLY stated you don’t want to press charges. In case of theft, it’s true could be up to a applicant to decide whether to press charges or not, but in case of assaults causing actual bodily harm or murder the charges WILL be pressed by the Police. Moreover, in this case any “I don’t want to press charges” will be considered by them as very, very suspicious.

[@lostandfound5145]

@Bee R I hope you moved the F outta wherever you lived that was so dangerous!

[@MrRPS2012]

I was almost abducted twice as a kid, and my nephew once. You better believe we got the cops involved ASAP and did everything humanly possible to get those bastards. I understand people react differently to stressful situations, but I can't imagine a parent just letting it slide after something like that.

[@annalisegiovanni7032]

Ummm, wait a minute.... I can't be the ONLY ONE that thinks that she should ALSO face some consequences for falsely accusing multiple people of ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING! I mean, it's not like that's a small accidental misunderstanding!

[@martyal]

She should face legal charges for false reporting and the couple should sue her.

[@glow1815]

And give her 5 year behind bars.

[@bnic9471]

Women deserve consequences equal to those that men get. Katie does not need counseling, she needs to cool her heels for a little bit at the Crowbar Hilton.

[@annalisegiovanni7032]

@B Nic ~Perfectly said mamaz! I couldn't have said it better myself! The way you stated shit & broke shit down was just, MUAH, CHEFS KISS!!!! 👩‍🍳💋👩‍🍳💋👩‍🍳

[@thelogicaldanger]

@@bnic9471 legally women and men do face the same consequences (whether individual judges carry this out is a separate matter.) Mandatory counseling is often given to men and women alike. But I agree with OP, this woman should be going to prison with 2 sentences for attempted kidnapping, since that is what she accused 2 other people of, not getting a fine or something for false reporting.

[@carlykimberly7942]

Sadie, the victim is my best friends from high school mom. They’ve been through hell because of this woman’s delusion.

[@lf9341]

I hope they sue.

[@bee12355]

So sorry to hear that. I hope they heal. They should sue her

[@stephanied6711]

I hope they sue her into oblivion, i can’t imagine something like this happening to me

[@Platinum907]

Katie is gross, wtf.

[@tamiamaral617]

Can they please sue her for defamation and all that stress they got.

[@jessetheskeptic601]

If a mother really thought someone tried to kidnap her kids, she would most definitely have filed charges. She knew she was lying.

[@HomeAtOahu]

She did file a police report. That's what for her in trouble.

[@19spencerking94]

She didn't file charges though. Just a report. ​@@HomeAtOahu

[@milliewoo337]

The narcissism epidemic just seems to be growing, there’s evidence of it everywhere. I’m just grateful we have the language and terminology to identify it now.

[@gabrielamartiniuc6322]

Yep. It’s absolutely atrocious.

[@TheFaro2011]

It's because it's "advantageous" no shaming in their behaviour

[@meredith2803]

Yep that’s why I bother with very few people.

[@airam-sj2172]

Yes, this is the new pandemia we are facing.

[@zoso1980]

I'd argue it's just more visible than it was before. The narcissist has social media for their validation, plus as influencer, the monetization opportunities reward content that gets lots of attention. They can make an outrageous claim, or slander someone and the whole world can know about it in minutes, hours or days. The more outrageous, the more attention it gets. The more people are talking about them and their claim. The more they can portray an image to the world, and profit. There's a reason Amber Heard kept 'adding' new details every time she had to do sworn statements vs. Johnny Depp.. Her cluster b traits craved that attention, and each time claims got more dramatic and horrific. In Heard's case it was about gaining clout as a DV activist. The perception, instead of the reality. And for years, Heard was rewarded too.

[@saffrontaylor3070]

Had the couple been charged it's unlikely that Katie would have come clean about her story.

[@sc3ku]

this. it would’ve totally solidified her imagined narrative in whatever fantasy world she lives in

[@billdavis1053]

Kinda like Alice Sebold

[@dissidentfairy4264]

Katie is either paranoid or she's deliberately a false accuser which is evil. I feel bad for the couple who were falsely accused.

[@alexeysamokhin9629]

I’ve heard about this tactics from multiple people: in order to avoid conviction false accusers use the wording such as “I’m not 100% sure”, “I don’t want them to be arrested”, “I’m asking you to investigate” etc, so in case the lies are exposed false accuser could retract from the original position.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

She's probably delusional but you'd be surprised how many women are delusional about "I was almost kidnapped". I used to see girls from my HS always posting crazy shit on FB like "I came out from the store and there was a plastic bag on my windshield wiper and that's a sign for someone to kidnap you". Of course I'd respond "why would someone mark your car before kidnapping you? In the middle of the day? In the parking lot of the most busy grocery store in our area? Nothing adds up" and I was shouted down and called a mysoginist lol BTW, I would write very directly and never even mentioned gender so the misogyny accusations were especially deranged.

[@Likelyfairy]

@@Aaron-kj8dv interesting….

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

@@alexeysamokhin9629 sounds like trumpism

[@bryantconley1971]

She's just a terrible human.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

She certainly displayed tremendous entitlement and lack of empathy. Thank you for reviewing this case, Dr. Grande.❤

[@Ad-Lo]

And racism. Let’s call it what it is.

[@MypronounIsKing]

@@Ad-Lo what about this case indicates racism ? Lmao…

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@MypronounIsKing What about this case doesn't imply racism? I am white and racism is the first thing I thought of.

[@melstark7265]

You said it. The key to this woman’s crazy. “Nothing happened to Katie.” Nothing has EVER happened to Katie. She tries to invent trouble where there is none. It’s a shame she didn’t face consequences

[@johnnyearp52]

There is a chance. They haven't sentenced her yet.

[@SIMARSONG]

I agree with you and want to add that she wasted law enforcement's time! So much real crime out there, and to have to deal with her nonsense! For that alone, she receive have some type of penalty. I've noticed that these "victims" seem to point to a person in a minority or ethnic group--like that makes it more believable! Disgusting!

[@rockyevans1584]

Yep. South park had a great episode making fun of the stories of several parents who murdered their own children and blamed it on some Puerto Rican man. Psychopaths trying to capitalize on common racial stereotypes is what it is

[@bthomson]

Hate crimes are punished more severely for this reason.

[@Vonononie]

@@rockyevans1584the South Park “some PR” episode came to my mind too!

[@rockyevans1584]

@@Vonononie haha I don't watch every episode anymore, but I'm definitely a huge fan of their humour and fearlessness regarding calling out society's absurdities. Good stuff

[@lostandfound5145]

In her sentence she is likely to be fined for wasting public resources

[@lastpme]

First she blamed a Hispanic couple of trying to kidnap her kids, an another involved in this plot wore a Black Lives matter...I surprised she also didn't include a gay couple into her story. She is an awful human being.

[@gpwcowboy]

Your added details remind me of that false fabricated race/gay/political hate crime in Chicago a while back. Zero comments about it here although how could anyone not make the connection is beyond me.... Oh wait, if they did boobtoob would censor it and harass them relentlessly. Much like this woman and the black gay leftist criminal who wasn't incarcerated in Chicago.

[@flapjack413]

For real, I'm also surprised that the counterpart to the "person wearing a BLM shirt" wasn't wearing a trans lives matter shirt or something of that nature, lol. Between trying to demonize a Hispanic couple, the Q-Anon BS, and her also needing to try to find a way to smear BLM in the same story, it sounds to me like it was a pathetic attempt to get a foot in the door to become a right wing influencer, err, I mean fear monger. Isn't a big part of the whole Q thing "save the children"? Pretty odd that she would decline to press charges on someone if she's so concerned about the safety of children. What an absolute piece of human garbage. Stuff like this has the ability to completely destroy the lives of innocent people. I hope she gets the max that can be given. She deserves nothing less.

[@shonuff2382]

Unfortunately, these are some of the hazards associated with being law abiding minorities in this country. Something similar happened to me to a lesser degree on more than one occasion. Being falsely accused, based on race, is demoralizing and dangerous. Doesn't matter that I'm a law abiding person or a US Navy Vet. All they see is "black" and "threat".

[@lindalund9621]

I am so sorry that it is like this in USA. It must be scary. Here in scandinavia We Are not perfect and yes There is racism but mostly We all just live a ok life. We do not have all the race dividing . There is some problems with different religions but still most Are ok with eachothers.

[@KomaKode93Mode]

Thank you for your service!

[@marialourdess]

Thank You for Protecting & Serving our Country. You are a Gem & You are Forever Respected & Much Appreciated by me & so Many others!

[@karamarie6781]

I am very sorry for this😢

[@wiseonwords]

@Sho'Nuff - I hear you! The name Emmett Till comes to mind. This disgusting Katie story reminded me of that story a few years back of a crazed white woman who drowned her own kids in a car and then blamed a random black guy for abducting them. This is truly sick stuff. This Katie woman is a truly sick POS who should be serving a long sentence in jail.

[@katarina1852]

Imagine what would have happened to the couple had there not been security footage of the parking lot. Accusing them of attempted kidnapping of a child is horrible and could have ruined their lives. Shame on Katie.

[@pebblepod30]

I'm not surprised by such things, so much as glad that such people as Amber Heard & this lady raise awareness that False Accusations exist and far more common than a lot people realize because there are in some situations strong emotional or financial security or family incentives for it. I'm even spoken to a head of a DV organization who seriously asked me "what possible incentives are there to falsely accuse?" A few very big ones, if you think about it.

[@pebblepod30]

And imo, there is no contradiction between taking FA seriously and SA also seriously, in fact on a public support way they go strongly together, because to do so takes gender war out of it.

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@pebblepod30 Both are wrong and should be taken seriously. I am a survivor of SA as a child. I still would never want anyone to be falsely accused.

[@BegodeEx30]

It must be nice to live a life so nice & stress free you have to create problems for excitement. I personally can think of many other exciting activities that doesn't involve made-up kidnappers, police, making a public fool of myself but I guess some need stronger stimulation for their dopamine fix, like psychopaths.

[@edgybarbie77]

Fr who has time & energy for that type of nonsense. Rich people problems 😂

[@jeffstites8187]

Fucking AAAAAAA RIGHT 👍🙂😂❤

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

No matter the subject or crime, Dr Grande is always 100% charming, likable, and informative.

[@nancydrew1882]

I hope this couple sues her for defamation!

[@Mandrake591]

I hope the Martinez family can sue her for defamation. False charges are especially damaging in the age of the internet.

[@WoodyWard]

My speculation is that this person is rather disturbed. 😯

[@martyal]

She’s either disturbed or needs to be disturbed.

[@h0rriphic]

Ugh. All I can think about is how stressful and hard it must be for Katie’s children. Imagine growing up with a mother like that. Poor kids. That being said, I still hope the Martinez couple sues her pants off. It has to be traumatic to be falsely accused of kidnapping.

[@trinaann1452]

I am glad you mentioned her children. I unfortunately was raised by a vulnerable Narrcistic mother which caused me to self injure myself in adolescence. Due to her shame over other people finding out she took me to a therapist and I was able to recover. I often feel like people forget about the children who are raised in these unhealthy environments. People are so caught in the drama and the jokes about a white lady being a "Karen" that no one thinks to ask her children if there is abuse in the home.

[@ObeseBeardedBub]

When you think your the main character, but you're actually the random psycho npc that triggers a random cutscene

[@JorgeRodriguez-xz5ec]

Underrated comment 😂

[@Corywinget81]

Idk why but I love listening to to these at work. I drive a forklift and listen to this and 48 hours all day

[@MamaPinks]

🤬This was in my area. Katie was canceled so fast for this bullpoopie. It was absolutely ridiculous. She was trying to boost her following on social media. The poor couple who were accused were devastated over these false accusations. She needs to have that 6 months in jail 100%🤬

[@carlyrennae3963]

Let's just call it what it is SHE IS A LIAR !! There should be wayyyyyyy harsher punishments for these attention seeking losers ! Thanks Dr G 🙏 i hadn't heard of this one in Oz 😊

[@gail9566]

Shes a racist holier than thou liar.

[@lf9341]

Agree. Not to mention wasting time for the cops.

[@carlyrennae3963]

@@lf9341 soooo true too !! I can't stand people like her and lying Papini wtf ...OXYGEN THIEVES

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder , I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating on why the two artificial cacti would would be doiing the samba on the nightstand on the far right like this.

[@PoM-MoM]

They're 'in the mood' 💃🕺😂

[@queenreg7]

💃🏽🕺🏽🎉

[@scottricci5063]

Long ago, in days of old, bearing false witness against your neighbor was punishable by death. Willing to damage another's dignity and fraudulently cause imprisonment or execution was of serious consequence back in the day and absolutely should still be so.

[@QurVgn]

I live in Sonoma County - and it’s really weird, because I didn’t hear anyone talking about it. Disgusting lies!!!

[@Platinum907]

Same.😊

[@QurVgn]

@@Platinum907 You’re in Sonoma County? Where do you live? I was in Sebastopol but am now in Santa Rosa, hoping to escape soon! 😉

[@Feline_Frenzy53]

What prompted her to do that? Shades of Sherri Pappini...SMH

[@janetr5929]

My thought exactly

[@willelliott5052]

I have zero doubt that this woman has a history of similar nutso behavior. I hope that she enjoys the attention that she earned.

[@johnnyearp52]

I hope she enjoys it in jail.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good afternoon Dr Grande, excellent analysis. Anybody seeking fame should remember what my Granddad said, " Fame isn't what is all cracked up to be!" As always I learn something new from your videos. Keep up the great work. Have a wonderful evening.

[@rockyevans1584]

Sounds like a smart man. The advice of previous generations can be so practical, and personally I can't imagine why anyone would crave fame, it's been the obvious cause of the downfall of so many public figures

[@paulperry7091]

The danger of fame is that, once a lot of strangers "know" you, you then lose control of the way people perceive you. An ordinary person is able to correct misperceptions face to face, but once you are a celebrity the world is free to make up its own narrative.

[@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344]

I was on the Katie Sorensen jury and your analysis was similar to ours. The false accusation law is based on the mental state of the accuser in California. On 12/7 she could have made a mistake and in a state of panic, reported something that did not happen. On 12/14, the statements about being 100% sure and being willing to testify happen after she is told about two things that were wrong. She was told that Sadie and Eddie went into the store before her, when she claimed they followed her in. She was also told they were nowhere near her in the store except at the checkout line. This was very different than her being followed around the store by Eddie. The parking lot video is not quite as clear as you say. Eddie and Sadie did head somewhat near her and did reverse course for their own reasons. The person Katie called out to was an old man, who did come help her with her stroller. Part of all of this was hidden behind some vehicles as the camera was from a Kohl's next to the Michaels. Katie convicted herself on the stand. She said three things that were untrue and related to all of this. She denied the rough looking statements had anything to do with appearance. Katie claimed that her Instagram posts were not made to make money. She said that she thought from the first moment on 12/7 that she might be wrong about the incident. That combined with the 12/14 police interview showed that she was not beyond lying.

[@barnacles62]

I think she got married had two kids, is bored with her life and is so bankrupt inside shell do anything for a little excitement. And she definitely was trying to get her social media fame. I think falsely accusing people of something like this should have harsh punishments. Everybody plays a victim nowadays, its nauseating. I shop at Michaels a lot, because I paint as a hobby. Imagine trying to get supplies to be creative and have to put up with a lunatic like her. It's a wonder not more people are killed these days....

[@littleeva]

What an evil person. How can she blame COVID-19 when she was out in a store? Sometimes people need to lay off true crime podcasts.

[@stancexpunks]

Apparently she was as a big consumer of QAnon conspiracies especially those involving kidnapping

[@happydays59]

So true👍🏻

[@shanna3148]

"True crime " is a weird way to spell racism

[@amberriley7633]

@@shanna3148 Right😂 “Two Hispanics in a Black Lives Matter shirts talking in Spanish about my kid’s blonde hair and blue eyes… then they tried to kidnap them.”

[@Ad-Lo]

@@amberriley7633 Right?!

[@LadyLithias]

Vulnerable Narcissist.... This reminds me of a young woman I know. Her parents were involved in a vicious divorce, and following the divorce, the father bowed out of their life rather than force the daughter to have medical exams to prove his innocence in some unsavory accusations. Throughout the rest of her youth the mother continued to tell the kids how evil the father was, all the while sending the kids to be with him every summer, and every other Christmas, etc. Later the daughter used this story as a source of manipulation. Her father (who she chose to live with when she got to high school) found out that she was smoking, so her response was "I don't feel safe living with you because of what mom told me you did to me).... and another time when she snuck out to have a tryst with a college age boy when she was 15, it all turned around and was her father's fault, and another time it was his fault when she got in trouble for drinking alcohol during a field trip at a school. Finally it all came to a head just before Covid, when the daughter learned that her father and his wife had purchased a second vehicle (their first in almost 20 years of marriage). She asked him to give her their older car, and her dad told her that the older vehicle was leased, and that the purchase of a second car was due to the need for a second car. A few days later, she sent a blackmailing letter to her siblings, and her stepmom setting forth an ultimatum that everyone should stop associating with her father because of teh allegations her mother made about him during the divorce proceedings nearly a quarter century previously, and she was successful in driving a wedge between him and his children. He hasn't heard from them since Covid began. It seems to me that she gets so much more sympathy from both institutional sources and relatives by being a victim of her father's supposed misconduct than she got before she decided it was an issue. There is more sympathy and caring to be had for a victim than for a young woman making poor life decisions.

[@Jay_490]

This is so sad I feel so bad for the father.

[@LadyLithias]

@@Jay_490 Thank you. I only know two people who have gotten divorced and had children, and in both cases there was one parent who was always bad-mouthing the other, and in both cases the children were ultimately made to choose which parent they would believe. In his case, they all opted out. In the other case (my sister), her son chose to believe his father, and her daughter chose to believe her mother. Her daughter was, I feel, the most grounded in reality. She loves her dad still, but she doesn't *like* him. She loves her mother. She sees that they are both flawed human beings, but she is able to accept and love both. Too bad my other friend has lost his children permanently.

[@Mehki227]

I think women who suddenly make false accusations against dads are not only liars but abusers of their own children and make it difficult when such accusations are true. Later in life when she can no longer blame daddy, she'll have to deal with her own bs.

[@shewanda1]

Well being a minority in the USA is never boring. I am glad Dr Grande talked about Race in this situation. The sad thing about this, in her mind this really happened and if there was no surveillance, this couple could have went to prison.

[@powerhouse884]

The FACT that someone would go to the lengths of accusing INNOCENT people just for clout is astonishing to me…. She cared more about her popularity than the lives of innocent people. I bet if they had been wrongfully accused and sentenced to Jail she would cash out on the whole drama and interviews KNOWING she made it all up.

[@Bostongirl4eva]

Spot on per usual Dr. Grande! Thank goodness for surveillance cameras. Hope the falsely accused couple can heal.

[@wishbone-p4550]

just talked about this with coworkers today. momfluencers/family channels in general do NOT care about anything but content. not their morals, not their kids, and certainly not some strangers she's racist towards

[@rinagrey2478]

Why is it that they always falsely want to blame a Black or Hispanic?

[@RasheedGazzi-u5l]

It's their nature.

[@Bellaboo22228]

Called cops and tried to spread awareness AND was sure that these people were 🎉definitely 😢kidnapping her kids HOW👏EVER!!! She said she is feeling pretty polite and doesn’t feel like pressing charges- ahhh she is such a wonderful delicate flower! Thank you we truly owe you!!!…xo

[@wildflower868]

A 'favorite' story people in my community love to spread is some variation of being in Target (it's always Target) and noticing some men dressed in black suits following them and their child. They leave the store and these men keep following, but they're able to get to their car and get away. They always add a women into the story somewhere as well. They post their 'abduction warning' story and get the tons of "oh my gosh, that's so scary!" comments that make them feel important. It's disgusting.

[@elceenomoun8115]

I hear a lot supposedly from Kohl's too.

[@karakerley4230]

All the time. It's so bizarre. Everyone chimes in with their own "experience".

[@RebelTheUncanny1]

You're a wonderful wordsmith and a calming voice of reason, Todd.

[@SirenaSpades]

"Todd"

[@Chelly_Smelly]

I just happened to click on this video because I saw it in my feed and the title looked interesting....then I subscribed due to the deadpan humor and excellent video analysis!

[@ronald3836]

You have a lot of catching up to do!!

[@Stephen-to7jx]

This his how the author of The Lovely Bones got her start. She falsely accused an innocent man of sexual assault and wrote her first book about it. The man she accused actually went to prison.

[@jackiegrice714]

That would be the the most obvious kidnapping ever. It might even be an example of how not to complete a kidnapping. And I have never figured out the toilet paper thing. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.

[@hiddenname9809]

Imagine yourself doing your routine grocery shopping. Suddenly, you are being accused of child kidnapping. Sigh....people like this woman should be made an example.

[@Grandmas_Favorite]

I remember my wife coming up to me and telling me this story (saw on Facebook). She said to me “how can we raise kids (2 & 6 months at the time) in a world where people like this exist”… I agreed with her statement. A few weeks later when this story came out, I told my wife what happened and that it was 100% fake. My wife felt ashamed because she brought the story my attention and experienced a strong emotional reaction… She then said to me “I’m happy the Martinez’s were proven innocent but I feel even worst… How can we raise kids in a world where people like her exist…”. I again agreed. It may seem extreme but this women deserves 2 life sentences for almost ruining 2 innocent lives. Also the problem with a story like this is there’s a good chance my wife would have never heard the follow up truth. I think that’s a huge issue for our society today… People hear a lie told as a truth but don’t always hear the actually truth that follows…

[@matthuckabey007]

Whoa life sentence?!

[@jjberg83]

As someone who dated a vulnerable narc, Dr Grande's description is spot-on.

[@youtubeKathy]

the Black Lives Matter T-shirt was a nice touch.

[@unharmoniously]

A version of this goes around FB once at least every few months. Been debunked by police but there is always someone certain they are being targeted by traffickers in Walmart or Target

[@Throatzillaaa]

I've seen these get shared too. Usually sounds like they are just paranoid or they are being followed, but it is by someone employed by Walmart for retail-loss prevention, and they are dressed in normal clothing. Those posts going viral really shows that many Americans don't understand how people get sold into sex trafficking.

[@thelogicaldanger]

I think people who falsely accuse others of crimes, should face the same penalty for they crime they made up. In this case, she should be going to prison with the same sentence for attempted kidnapping that she was willing to lie and sent other people to prison for. Since she did this to 2 people, I think she could get double the punishment.

[@kenya1067]

If she's suffering through some sort of paranoia she is potentially dangerous to be around her children. I hope the children are okay. I'm glad the couple was safe from her lies with the surveillance video being available.

[@pebblepod30]

I'm not surprised by such things, so much as glad that such people as Amber Heard & this lady raise awareness that False Accusations exist and far more common than a lot people realize because there are in some situations strong emotional or financial security or family incentives for it. I'm even spoken to a head of a DV organization who seriously asked me "what possible incentives are there to falsely accuse?" A few very big ones, if you think about it.

[@lnc-to4ku]

Really loved your very diplomatic attack on Katie's horrible lies against innocent people! Amazing video, Dr. Grande! ♡♡

[@karenscherrer]

As someone named “Karen”, I still use the term “Karen”, it totally fits in a lot of entitled women here in Southern California!

[@monacoofthebluepacific2571]

Not all Karens are alike you're definitely a good Karen 😊👌👍

[@crimeandcrafting]

Honestly it’s 2023. Karen is played. It’s Katie now😂

[@birdn4t0r7]

your name may be Karen, but you're a Carin'.

[@EveningTV]

I always wonder what that is like for real Karens. They could have picked any common white girl name and just so happened to pick yours. It isn't the same, but I am very short and I remember how I hated the song "Short People". We just have to be able to laugh at ourselves and not take life too seriously I guess.

[@TutuFerret]

I have friends called Karen, and it doesn't even click that it's their name. There's a definite distinction between Karens and karens, although there definitely are some Karens who are also karens.

[@ddddoc7078]

This is similar to a local case from a few years back. Dr. Grande, you should analyze the case of Santana Adams which took place at the Huntington Mall in WV in 2019

[@jenanne31]

I live about 100 miles from where this incident took place. That's not far enough away from Katie and people like her. What despicable behavior.

[@bunnymad5049]

She's off her rocker - and I'm only 3 mins in. That poor couple. And 100% on the vulnerable narcissism. Been on the receiving end. Thanks, Dr G!

[@teesh871]

I just feel so bad for the couple. Just having a shop and a bit of time out and they have to deal with this nonsense. I can't relate to that level of scrutiny for just...existing.

[@peter-jac4143]

Disgusting situation! Well analyzed 🙏🏽

[@s.h.7613]

It’s time all ppl making false claims be charged just like the actor Jussie Smollet was in Chicago

[@JustMe-px9qy]

I agree.

[@infinitejest441]

But did he go to jail for it? No. They should both go to jail

[@JustMe-px9qy]

@@infinitejest441 - I agree. Hopefully Jussie’s appeal will fail and he’ll go to jail.

[@TheSarah730]

I’m glad you covered this incident

[@zenawarrior7442]

Sounds like yet another narcissist, yes they are very dangerous & tiring. Great analysis again, agree with all your points. Thanks Dr G😊❤❤

[@McBruce999]

Accusing people of other races in US is quite serious and can have serious consequences on their livelihood. Most of the time such false accusation goes unpunished and unnoticed. People of other races must be careful in US and should use the justice system to the fullest. Spreading rumors could destroy an entire family. Katie did this out of spite, hatred, racism, with an intention to destroy those lives.

[@ectoplasmicentity]

Stories like this is what makes this channel great.

[@jasperhorace7147]

Obviously the police had their doubts too.

[@wayneboyd4372]

I hope the children are no longer with her and in the safety of sane adults. If they are still with her, daily checks on the kids are VERY NECESSARY!

[@lynncaldwell8345]

This is why l am not on Facebook.I am too busy living to be interested in boring influencers.

[@erikamccarthy1457]

5/5/23 Falsely accusing people of any crime can ruin lives more than you imagine!! Always tell the truth, you can’t always fix once lies leave your mouth! Grateful for CCTV, not always where they can help you! Be Safe❤

[@jwenting]

falsely accusing people of a crime should carry the same penalty as the crime you falsely accuse them of, doubled.

[@Okanagan48]

Holy smokes!! She is nuts.

[@marian.jablonski54]

I hope that couple gets a nice big civil judgment against her - such attention-seeking behavior!

[@MindKontrolleProject]

Your analysis nailed it! 👍

[@keyperbell287]

I’m mad because she said they were wearing a Black Lives Matter shirt. That tells me everything I need to know about this woman

[@sophiaisabelle027]

We appreciate Dr Grande's effort and hard work on this channel. God bless him.

[@medow666]

Hope the couple sues her. She should pay a high price for this lie. Lucky there were cameras there.

[@annalisegiovanni7032]

Hey Dr. Grande❤️ Thank you for the new video. As always, I can't wait to hear everything you have to say about this case!

[@susanross1651]

I despair about how many people, usually women, who are so desperate for attention, celebrity status & fame these days, they are willing to do anything. And just as worrying are the thousands of people who are willing to follow these so called celebs & influencers who are obviously attention seekers with no real life experience.

[@JaneDoe-ip5yl]

This reminds me of a mother that did this to me because I said hello to her son as I was leaving the preschool after dropping off my son. She somehow decided I was a threat. I was a helper so the her son knew me. paranoid or maybe making content as well

[@h0rriphic]

Ugh. What a nightmare. Did you ever have to interact with her afterward?

[@JaneDoe-ip5yl]

@@h0rriphic nooo I made sure to never cross her path again. She actually told the office. And I'm just a typical looking mom. So wierd

[@__-fl3yt]

With race are you?

[@nvand5350]

Shame on Katie for having total disregard for the consequenses of her false accusations on the innocent coiple

[@manewland1]

Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande!

[@MDWD]

You nailed it again Dr.Grande. Txs

[@sandhanitizer15]

It's crazy that the police will put out a picture of a random couple to the public and tell everyone that they're kidnappers with absolutely no proof besides some lady telling you a story that doesn't even sound right. This shit ruins lives. So many people probably saw theo original picture and story, but only half of the people ended up seeing that they were innocent.

[@minnettesmith9781]

Dr. Grande, I have never posted on KZbin, or any other social media platform tbh. I have struggles with insomnia, and I after Karen to your videos bc I am interested in true crime, but I also find your tone, voice pacing and tenor relaxing. If you had subscription service available to you just reading books, I would be first in line. No extra sound effects, just you reading in your comforting, well paced tone. Smile😊. Keep me posted.

[@minnettesmith9781]

* Karen should be listen

[@jimthegatormantwopoint0]

She could be sued for slander on top of it all.

[@Tommi-C]

She became the danger that she thought was everywhere.

[@onyourcoffeebreak2476]

Now imagine if this happened in the early 1900 when there were no cameras. The innocent couple would have been lynched.

[@MsSheilaC]

Exactly

[@renee1961]

This is a Terrible Crime to Accuse Innocent people of, snd Terrifying to be Accused of it!! What is her problem??!!

[@EveningTV]

It is scary that you just never know who you might come in contact with, and it seems like you stand even greater chance of being falsely accused of something by someone who is either paranoid and neurotic or clout chasing or both as you are coming in contact with someone who would physically harm you.

[@kellydalstok8900]

And racist.

[@randompetsandnuns]

Thank you, Dr. Grande. I forgot to mention that I love your new text graphics. ✌🏻💜😇

[@supershepherd]

The fact that she admitted they didn't do anything shows that she lied. And the victims lives have been ruined. They should sue her. That seems like some pretty damning evidence.

[@jackydooley6053]

I've always loved the saying "Truth tellers TELL Liars SELL" When an honest person speaks they dont have to try to SELL you their lies!

[@jamiephillips6036]

Thanks again dr Grande - surely there should be a charge of " wasting police time" or something to that effect

[@JamieScheidt]

She knew what she was doing and even having to do 90 days she’s not going to change.

[@mudlark4099]

This happened at our Michaels, we saw the police arriving, couldn't understand what was going on. My bf is Mexican and caught some of what was happening. Katie was super flighty and acting strange. Weird stuff happens in Petaluma all the time.

[@griffin2263]

I worked at Michaels some of my coworkers were lazy old women , and the store was a mess

[@ronald3836]

I do wonder why the police went to the trouble of identifying the couple, which ultimately led to real damage being caused to real people. It should have been clear that Katie was just a pathetic attention seeker.

[@sslaytor]

@@ronald3836 That would not be clear until AFTER the police did some investigation to try and find a possible set of criminals. Even crazy people have real crimes committed against hem. Once the police had identified the only people close to her she backed away from her story and it fell apart. On the other hand - why did the police publicly id the couple when by the time they did her story was falling apart? It seems that the surveillance footage vindicated the suspects without Katie even changing her story.

[@ronald3836]

@@sslaytor the security camera showed that nothing had happened. There was no need to go after the couple.

[@ronald3836]

@@sslaytor from the second part of your comment I conclude that we are in agreement 😀

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

She got a slap on the wrist...90 days. This is why people are still able to submit false claims. Simple solution... If it's proven to be false you receive the SAME SENTENCE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSED TO THE ALLEGED PERPETRATORS!! Believe me, that would cause a DRAMATIC decline in false police reports. Imagine her attitude if she knew she'd receive 30 years for her bs story?? I'm looking at you, shari papini!!