Woman Murders Her Friend for Nonexistent Affair | Giselle Esteban & Michelle Le Case Analysis

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[@kdnick8584]

During my dating years, I had a few red lines, one being I would never date a friend's ex-boyfriend or ex-husband. And the occasion arose a few times. There were just too many men available to get involved in some else's mess.

[@melistasy]

Yea, I would never!

[@shitmandood]

I always figured that went without saying and yet here we are at the dark scene.

[@barneyronnie]

Why did you stop dating??

[@claudinejames7731]

You make sense. Why do something that tests a frienship to that degree?

[@kdnick8584]

@@barneyronnie I got married

[@leahvogelsimpson]

Poor Michelle. I'm so tired of these senseless murders.

[@bthomson]

So horrified by them too.

[@Christina-sf4py]

Jealousy from imagination

[@BB-dk3fd]

Me too 😢

[@littleeva]

People like Giselle should have been locked up and the key thrown away years before. What an evil woman.

[@micnorton9487]

​@@littleeva Yeah but she didn't do anything before that,, she should have gotten help with her mental health symptoms but, I suppose a narcissist that's not part of the program...

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

I think the most unfortunate event was Michelle meeting someone like Giselle. She had horrible traits, her jealousy, narcissism, callousness and anger paired with delusional thinking, made her extremely dangerous. I feel really sad for Michelle, she had a bright future ahead of her only to be cut short by someone so evil. Thank you, Dr. Grande. I hope you have a great Memorial Day weekend.❤

[@micnorton9487]

GIRL you get a heart from Doctor Grande and I don't, I think I'm starting to get jealous,, (hits weed pipe),, but I guess I'll get over it... Wish Giselle would have dealt with it that way...

[@samb4697]

And the fact Scot was a playboy and a sex addict going from one stupid woman to the next, he is probably been with 50 more women. There are so many sex addict men with STDs out there and these stupid women fall for them.

[@di3486]

It’s obvious that monster was jealous of Michelle’s kindness and looks.

[@thecove4770]

I learned years ago that a women must never grovel or beg a man to stay. It shows tremendous weakness and is deeply unattractive to him. It does absolutely nothing but make you look worse. Always let leavers go and leave them alone. People need to have some dignity, even when their heart is broken.

[@queenreg7]

Giselle seems to have always wanted what Michelle had. She got with Scott, probably because Michelle had dated Scott first, and Giselle wanted to be a better girlfriend than Michelle was. When her nursing dreams didn’t come true, she blamed Michelle for having success and living her life and leaving Giselle behind. Instead of trying to finish school her own self, she blamed Scott and Michelle and didn’t realize that Michelle wasn’t even thinking about being with Scott anymore. So sad. Not diagnosing. Only speculating.

[@Gizziiusa]

crab mentality runs deep within Filipino culture.

[@adammcelwee8492]

Unfortunately I think a lot of this stems from some aspects of Filipino culture (crab mentality, saving face, etc). Giselle couldn't stand her high school bestie being more desired by men, and living a generally more stable life, so she became obsessed. Hence why she pursued a guy Michelle dated for a few weeks at most, and tried to lock it down with a child. Finding a scapegoat for her relationship with Scott failing is absolutely a part of 'saving face', being unwilling to take the ego hit in front of her family and friends that she was a single mom with mental issues.

[@reyreycolortorch9678]

“her own self” 😂😂😂

[@labordayweekend]

So Giselle talks to the police and tells them she was at the scene of the crime and that she has a strong motive. What an intelligent person.

[@emeraldblue5291]

She killed her lifelong best friend because she convinced herself bff was sleeping with her (ex) baby daddy. She was also pregnant at the time by said ex baby daddy. Hardly the best & the brightest.

[@juliejames6636]

0:11 0:12 0:12

[@juliejames6636]

0:53

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

Bipolar people aren't known for their logic when not medicated. Source: I have ex friends and relatives with diagnosed BPD.

[@janetstarnes3405]

🤣🤣🤣👍🤣

[@charleendavis8171]

I saw this story on Discovery ID several years ago and I couldn't believe the way Giselle walked all around the inside of the hospital, in front of so many cameras, trying doors etc and no one questioned her behavior. It wasn't really the behavior of an employee at all. Not even a new one. Anyway thanks for doing this story. It is a strange one and you really brought it to life.

[@cbesthelper404]

She was inside the building while no on was there after hours.

[@rubiirae]

It wasn't a hospital, it was on college campus during off hours. She visited the campus twice, once as a perspective student asking for more info on the nursing program, that's when she stole the ID badge of a new adjunct professor. She then returned to the campus trying to open different doors with the stolen ID badge.

[@9teen9t4]

@@cbesthelper404 Hospital is staffed 24/7.

[@cbesthelper404]

@@9teen9t4 She wasn't at the hospital. She was at the school site walking around after hours when no one was there.

[@garrysekelli6776]

Asians. That sums up the entire mystery.

[@chrisschneider3873]

If only they had contacted Jerry Springer, this whole misunderstanding could have been solved with minimal violence

[@ember1794]

😅😬

[@DerkuiDerkui]

You should be awarded the Intercontinental Champion as you are the hardest working man on KZbin at the moment.

[@BackyardButcher]

💯👍

[@tmajcan94]

I'm not diagnosing only speculating that Dr. Grande knows exactly when I'm ready to go to bed to release a new video. You're the best Dr. G!

[@irene_f.]

Good one! 😹

[@meenki347]

🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@Koozomec]

For the sake of your sleep schedule you should consider to move in another timezone ! :D

[@Mariahlb]

🎉🌠🌚 and 🎉🌞🏖👍😇😊😘🙏

[@jamesbowman6925]

Check your bedroom for hidden webcams.

[@teresathayn5170]

At first this sounds so juvenile but you must pay attention to this behavior!! Psychopaths are real!!

[@triciamuir]

I live in SF bay area and remember this case. So sad for Michelle, had her whole future ahead of her. Jealousy is so evil.

[@earth0128]

Full blown envy there 😢

[@sydneykendall7125]

Having such delusions doesn't always lead to a person committing a crime. Is it the person's moral character, established before the mental illness takes over, that determines how the person responds to the delusion(s)?

[@donotreply8979]

Put them away, never know which ones are dangerous

[@Alexa2z]

The hardest working man on KZbin! Thank you so much for all the content.

[@hunter-ws8sx]

right? who uploads more than him

[@tankthearc9875]

his new format is distracting

[@chiccavaquita]

@@tankthearc9875agree. It’s changes like every 2 months.

[@andrewvo8395]

I live in the area. Saw on the news at the time and found out that morning my friend owned the apartment where Giselle had rented. It was super creepy.

[@sharonwilfong503]

I really don't understand how someone cannot foresee the consequences of their actions.

[@jesussson3467]

sometimes some people think they are invisible or things just get hot and heavy, and they blank out

[@irene_f.]

No self control. 😬

[@jinchuriki7022]

Their invincible

[@RinpochesRose]

@@jinchuriki7022 they are

[@barneyronnie]

Trilafon😮

[@loiskondo8349]

Even without Girl Scout cookies Scott is lucky to be alive! Thank you Dr. Grande for another great video!

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

Has probably found another girl and is married by now.

[@lnc-to4ku]

I feel so deeply sad for Michelle! She had such a bright future ahead of her! This is both a tragic and fascinating case, and so well told by you, Dr. Grande! It's so scary to think how badly some mental disorders will distort reality so badly.

[@bthomson]

Well put! A very distorted reality!

[@WiqedWhiteGorilla]

Imagine being security at hospital, or anywhere else, and someone gets MURDERED in view of a camera that you had "disabled" smh

[@IsmaelLovecraft]

I just want to say that I have never, not one time, googled how to make a voodoo doll that looks like Dr. G, and that I have never, not one single time, stolen hairs from Dr. G's hairbrush.

[@velvetram2975]

I will never get over the dumb*ss hyper specific google searches these killers undertake.

[@stewarln52284]

I haven’t seen this case covered anywhere. Thanks for being on top of the newest cases!

[@Noodlepunk]

I have seen it a couple times but it is not discussed as much.

[@vsanchez7158]

It was on covered on Dateline and Snapped.

[@chrisraymond6448]

This happened in like 2012,😶

[@Bynming]

Loved the use of "unexpected surprise" while discussing redundancy. :)

[@aarondavis8943]

She goes to all this trouble to avoid detection but surely she must have known she would have been captured on numerous cameras? That said, she was too focused and organized to be suffering from a psychosis. She was just bad at getting away with murder, not psychotic.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

Giselle's first mistake was dating a guy that her friend dated. Nothing good can ever come out of it, especially if she wanted to retain her friendship with Michelle. Giselle was the intruder not Michelle. Giselle seems crazier than a two-dollar dime to me. It sounds like she had some kind of obsessive compulsive disorder among other psyche issues. She was bad news for both of them. I feel really bad for Michelle, she was doing well and her life was together until Giselle took it away from her. What ever happened to Giselle's pregnancy? Was she even pregnant? Did she have the baby? If so, who has it now?

[@shitmandood]

The biggest problem is Michele made friends with this nut job. Not a friend and she’d still be alive.

[@tracys169]

She gave birth in prison and the baby is now with the father.

[@cathybaldry7822]

I feel she went after Scott purely because he had been with Michelle. Giselle was totally obsessed with Michelle

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@tracys169 Thank you for the update. I'm glad she isn't the one raising it. It's a sad situation though for everyone.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@cathybaldry7822 You are probably right. She may have been jealous of her before he ever entered the picture.

[@falkonladi8]

I love the background decor you have now! The dark gray curtains really suits the area, and the lighting, just makes it nice!

[@latoyiab79]

I've been watching too many videos. Makes me want to seal myself from the world, people making up drama the other person isn't even aware of. People are crazy.

[@MargieM10]

I remember this one. She was absolutely diabolical.

[@azulgaia7782]

How horrible. So, you can be psychotic and not responsible/ insane when murdering, but also this woman was psychotic and totally aware of what she was doing? God, prison must be a hellish with people like her, but thankful if they’re not releasing her.

[@KatSpade1018]

Interesting case Dr. G! Thx for the analysis. Very sad to see that someone's own inferiority complex cost someone their life. The only person to befriend Giselle in highschool. So bizarre that Michelle only dated Scott a few months yet would die for it a whole 8 yrs later. If anyone had a right to be upset it was Michelle because her "friend" began dating her ex very quickly after they split. It's always fascinated me how an obsessed or abusive partner can be so worried that their partner is going to leave that they, themselves, are the only person that interfered in their relationship but they're never able to see this. Giselle was the only woman that came between herself and Scott. She also offered up the motive to police saying she believed Scott was sleeping with Michelle. If only they would have taken the threatening text msgs to police. Ppl have a tendency to believe the ppl in their lives are all talk but it was clear to see that Giselle was spiralling out of control with her obsession. Scott is very lucky he wasn't harmed as well. She didn't even give a single thought to what her actions were doing to their daughter, especially if she had taken Scott out of the baby's life permanently by ending his. I don't like how so many times nowadays we see mental health used as a defense for commiting violent crimes. I do believe there are instances where it is applicable but it seems to be the new "go to" to escape accountability. If she was diagnosed with a disorder and prescribed medication and willfully stopped taking the medication then she has chosen to be responsible for any actions she takes as a result of not taking her medicine. She knows what could happen if she doesn't take it and chooses not to take it anyway. Therefore she's responsible. Oh and guys, if a woman starts hitting themselves, for any reason, run far far away!!! All those years of hard work Michelle put in and the last day of internship before she could begin her official career she worked so long and hard to achieve and everything is stolen from her over jealousy that she had no hand in creating. How terribly tragic. I hope that Scott and his daughter are doing well and living peacefully knowing Giselle can not harm them anymore. I also hope that Scott understands that Michelle's death is in no way his fault. He was doing nothing inappropriate or out of line. Everything was a figment of Giselle's insecure mind. So unnecessary. Edit: I forgot one thing, if Giselle was speaking to police the very next day after the crime was commited and she admitted to being at the scene, gave the motive straight police about her delusion of M and S sleeping together, her DNA in M car along with the ID, and M's blood on her shoes...Why was she not arrested and charged until Sept yet this happened in May....

[@eileenacker1964]

I love your videos. Informative, funny ( no word on the Girl Scout cookies ), insightful, well written analysis… thank you.

[@dandrummond9154]

I’m pretty sure I can do the opening and the standardized closing without a script right now. Just saying, in case the need arises.

[@irene_f.]

😮What a Stupid woman the murderer is. Any affair could never happen if she were with a Real man - why kill the other woman? And nothing had happened anyway. 😬 Murderer was so jealous and vile.

[@sharondowling8896]

How do we protect ourselves from people so obviously mentally ill?! Giselle threatened both Michelle and Scott numerous times. Where was her family? It sounds like she had been under care for her bipolar disorder at some point. Why was there no intervention? This is a heartbreaking story, on so many levels. The world is a much darker place with Michelle gone. Giselle needs to stay safely tucked away where her obsessions cannot hurt anyone else again.

[@MooseGuy1]

My AR15 always works for me.

[@donotreply8979]

1, don't be friends with them that was her first mistake

[@frankiecrocker]

Scott is an idiot. While the murder of Michelle is not directly his fault, Scott should had never enter into a relationship with Giselle after dating Michelle. Giselle's behavior should have been a red flag to him, instead it seems Scott enjoyed the dysfunction and chaos.

[@GoGreen1977]

He should have been more careful with whom he had sex, but that's true for a lot of guys, and vice versa. And with abortion bans in so many so many states and even access to birth control being threatened, there will be more dysfunctional relationships, custody battles, abandoned children, and bad outcomes.

[@tomverlaine728]

​@@GoGreen1977 Everyone should be more careful, abortion laws or not. Sex is no joke.

[@redruby747]

​@@GoGreen1977🤦‍♀️

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

​@@GoGreen1977stay single.

[@Jared_Wignall]

I heard about this sometime last year and things like this are truly horrible. May Michelle rest in peace. Thank you for covering this Dr. Grande, keep up the great work. Have a great weekend!

[@carlyrennae3963]

Yaaaaay working Saturday just got much better-er ! 😂 thanks Dr Grande 🌼🌹

[@brianpratt3224]

Not in the same time zone as me then.

[@carlyrennae3963]

@Brian Pratt Lols, I'm guessing you're not in Oz then....should visit its an awesome place unless you don't like spiders 😜

[@brianpratt3224]

@@carlyrennae3963 I am on the West Coast of the US. So, its still Friday. Yes, I plan to go to Australia one day. Enjoy your day at work. I hope it is uneventful and without any spiders.

[@andalistark5416]

Props for the redundancy bit, Doc. ‘Free Gift,’ ‘Added Bonus,’ ‘Safe Haven,’ et al .. So humorously droll of you. Wordplay always gets me 🤭

[@jc6800]

I was on the edge of my seat wondering if he got the Girl Scout cookies 😢🎉😂

[@Hansgame]

what i respect´most about this channel is not the hard work thats put in every video or the daily uploads, its that dr g repeats his intro and known ways to present the cases hundred of times, instead just copy past the same intro over hundreds of videos. thats some true dedication. thank you.

[@eloisegibbin4742]

I have a suggestion/request for a video about the Mesquite substitute teacher charged after allegedly encouraging student fights during class... I don't believe there's much info (it happened about a month ago), but I'm curious about your thoughts on why and what she could've been thinking. There's apparently a 10min video a student secretly recorded of the fights. It is mind boggling.

[@fragrantbloom]

Yeah that would be a great topic

[@PolumbiusTheThird]

that sounds awesome. if i had control of 32 kids i would totally make them duke it out.

[@sampsonroofing7377]

It's not an egregious enough crime. There are too many murderers out there who need their story told first.

[@viralynn8120]

Yes please do this one! Why the hell would a teacher behave this way? (Someone said this isn’t important because it isn’t murder. I’m sure this could have lead to murder if not stopped.)

[@roxannespahr2804]

Its scary how quick someone can brutally murder another. This world is full of heartless, evil people. Sad to see how quick people will turn to murdering another. You definitely have job security in this genre, Dr. Grande. Unfortunately there will never be a shortage of stupid, self centered, impulsive, narcissistic, psychopathic people in this world who commit crimes they think they can get away with...but fortunately Dr. Grande will never run out of content, so we will always have his spot on analysis of these crazy stories.. 😊 ❤️

[@jeanholmes7976]

Dear Dr. Grande……thank you for your analysis. Please enjoy your 3-day weekend!!🍏💚🌵from Jean.

[@danielghosn6529]

Just got me a nice expresso! Because Dr. Grande is not only on KZbin, but he is the best, and he knows it's Friday! 😊

[@stevenwest000]

I loved the way you said “….realistically, in the State of California, she’s never going to be released”.

[@StephEatsnTravels]

Michelle Le was from my area (Bay Area). This was a huge story back in 2011 especially in the Asian community. I hope Michelle's family has found peace.

[@janedoe4316]

I stg, Dr. Grande could have a tv show or a podcast! I actually would adore a podcast🤔

[@zenawarrior7442]

Another sad, odd case. Great points as usual. Thanks Dr G😊🤎🤎

[@edwardwong654]

This is just a terrible tragedy. I lived in Oakland and volunteered on one of the many search teams her family had organized to find her. It was so sad seeing the anguish on the family'a faces.

[@sawychuck9797]

Uploaded 1 minute ago, the gods smile upon me

[@LibraInSeattle]

This case was so disturbing. Giselle was so jealous of Michelle. She went to great lengths to murder Michelle. I feel so bad for the Le family. She called the ER and tried to get her shift. I’ve seen this case covered before and it’s just shocking how you can be that jealous of someone you were friends with. Giselle ruined her own relationship with Scott. She didn’t need any help from Michelle. What is even more sad is that she made those threats to Scott in front of their daughter. She was abusive to him emotionally if not physically. I don’t think he realized the danger he was in himself. Clearly Michelle wasn’t aware of the danger Giselle presented towards her. Such a waste of two lives.

[@manewland1]

Another video to start my day (with my morning coffee in hand). Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande!

[@shar0n4321]

What size was your coffee…was it a…Grande? I’ll see myself out.

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande!

[@irene_f.]

I thought Abandonment is a major issue of people who suffer from BPD - is that right? That part is so sad.

[@passwordsuggestion5336]

Congratulations on 1.3M I was so waiting for it. Well done 👏.

[@Panwere36]

The fact that Giselle Esteban was allowed to walk all over the grounds of a hospital like she did is as disturbing as her behavior.

[@redruby747]

Yes

[@bradwilliams6574]

Anybody could do this

[@tuvia4082]

Great video, thanks Dr. Grande.

[@lisamoag6548]

Excellent point, each one has a right to make their own decisions and are responsible for the consequenses of those choices.

[@ShunyamNiketana]

Very upsetting story. It comes just after my learning about a local HS student who attacked a love interest with scissors after she rejected his request for a date. I start to generalize about this society and its collective psychosis. In this case, it's not simply jealous rage but a delusion -- and then she acts on it. Manslaughter? I thought premeditation with intent were the key to first degree.

[@geekemedia]

Ok, what happened to the daughter during all of this??

[@ISIKOFF5]

Can you do an analysis of Tina Turner? Thanks, Dr. G!

[@pennsydude9723]

Why have enemies when you have so called friends like Giselle? Rest in peace Michelle. 😔

[@ChezBekks]

The worst part of this is 2 women had beef over some random dude named Scott

[@internetperson9121]

I've been too busy lately to watch as much as I used to, but I still love your videos. The level-headed way you approach every topic is such a benefit to your viewers, particularly at this time when the loudest, most extreme viewpoints often garner the most attention. You are an excellent counterpoint to that tendency, as your continued success shows that fairness, intelligence (and humor) are still appreciated in our turbulent world. Thank you Dr. Grande!

[@helpyourcattodrive]

Great video. Thanks, Grande. ❤

[@megatherion2695]

Thanks again, Doc!

[@DornishQueen]

Where Dr Grande goes, the cacti goes.

[@unstopable96]

Sounds like borderline personality disorder than bipolar. Could you speak to this diagnosis when you believe it could be suspect?

[@ZestySea]

I am curious about this also. I doesn’t sound anything like bipolar disorder to me

[@fd502]

Yikes! I work security. I think I need to start a petition to move all badges out of arms reach at my office.

[@christopherbutcher9341]

Love your background Dr. Grande!

[@donniebao]

Based, the redundancy was absolutely a dead giveaway

[@Azelia834Heather]

Thank you for another very interesting video.

[@dazzlerweb]

always interesting to hear this counsellors take on these cases.

[@rockbobster8181]

Dr. Grande , would you consider doing a video on the “affluenza teen”” who seemed to be unrepentant for killing other teens for his drunk driving?

[@nerd26373]

We appreciate your dedication and hard work. May God bless you and everyone here.

[@nilkilnilkil]

They always incriminate themselves with their Internet searches ... I would never do that ...

[@aldovs1]

Dr. Grande you rock!!!

[@42ls]

Dr Todd, could ir be that she was wrongly diagnosed bipolar and it may have been borderline or other cluster b disorders?

[@d.awdreygore]

Ouch, narcissism and psychosis are a horrific combination.

[@harrydemkee3580]

I recall this one, it happened near were I live. It was a sad case, a poor victim who had done nothing wrong being blamed for an imaginary affair. Very sad 😢

[@decafmocha211]

All high schools need to teach emotional intelligence.

[@lisamac8503]

I agree Less time on math and more time dealing with what is going on in the real world

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

Schools don't teach much...and what they teach, most do it badly, and you want to trust them with teaching more tasks?

[@powlperc]

….yet another good episode

[@marleylove510]

Damn, I lived in the apartment building across the street from Kaiser in Hayward when this happened. It was sad. It’s weird to hear Dr Grande talk about something that happened in my home town.

[@mattlassen5948]

I'm sure it's been commented by now that it's Hayward not Haywood. If so, I apologize to everyone but Giselle for the redundancy. As Dr. Grande pointed out, she likes it.

[@missyskye_sea_land9424]

I had my daughter at Kaiser in Hayward and stayed for a month…

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

Bet she hated Scott having 80% custody. Now, Scott has 100% custody, thank goodness. That’s a face of soulless evil.

[@ann-mariepaliukenas19]

I think this is pure jealousy.

[@samuelsurbrook1428]

Your my favorite subscriber guy on KZbin Dr. Grande.

[@fragrantbloom]

Who tf disables the security camera

[@michellebh]

Yet another example of someone with poor prospects of ever being a worthwhile member of society eradicating a person with great potential

[@whowantstorunforpresident5531]

Crazy how all these murderers never fail to take their personal tracking devices (cell phones) with them during the entire criminal enterprise

[@brookiegremlin6660]

I think I saw this on an episode of discovery ID show--did Michelle actually go to a couple counseling session with Giselle & that dude? In order to assert that they were "just friends?" Am I remembering the episode correctly?

[@amyg5149]

The riff on redundancy … classic Grande ❤

[@tantelila7464]

Dr Grande, I just read about the Australian case of Anthony Harvey, who murdered his wife Mara his MIL and his three little daughters. Can you please take a look at it?

[@calinicole3495]

Another oneee!❤🎉🎉

[@theunforgiven2885]

Pick your friends wisely. Michelle didn't deserve this .I also watched this case and your absolutely right she was obsessed with Michelle.

[@ReignofAbaddon]

The mugshot in the beginning of every video lets you know who the killer is lol

[@shane11]

Good Morning Dr Grande and happy weekend from the UK. Would you be interested in doing a video on Philip Schofield the ITV Host in the UK who is going through a scandal right now which forced him to quit his very high paid job. I'm sure you might find it interesting if you read the story and id be very keen to hear your thoughts. Thank You.

[@Kimmi7581]

What are in the foods in America?! People are going insane!

[@thirsty3333]

Lol Ngl threw me off when he said didn’t get his Girl Scout cookies lol 😂