GR Yaris vs GR Corolla - A Modifiers Perspective on Which is Better at 370hp and over 500hp.

[@psycheout4733]

Let's surmise this entire nearly 16 minute video. They're similar platforms so the only thing a "modifier" cares about is power to weight ratio. They assume same motor power potential so the only way to change the power to weight ratio is weight. Since GR Yaris is lighter, they recommend the GR Yaris. That's all there is in this vid.

[@Bobby-lh2sx]

Thanks

[@naiahhaian]

10 years ago, would have you ever thought you'd been comparing a Yaris to a Corolla? Lol

[@1StevenValdez1]

10 years ago were you ever this excited about a Corolla !!! Lol. Never would I have thought that I would be watching videos of the GR Yaris giving Porsche Cayman GT4's, BMW M2's and cars alike a run for their money at the Nurbergring. Creating a big fan of the platform and ready to place a pre-order for the GR Corolla.

[@mikie1466]

Who thought people would pay 50k for a yaris or Corolla

[@corollaae8645]

Ten years plus ago the most exciting power boost for a Yaris was a hair dryer connect to intake🤣🤣 Ten years ago you still wanted a gts Corolla from the 80’s as is now.

[@corollaae8645]

@@mikie1466 yup I gonna wait for a secondary market when a kid blows one up.

[@kiquian2voy245]

even the camnry got hit by puberty.

[@M-F-CORGI]

A modifiers perspective on so many cars is something id prefer to hear over so much generic journo bs.

[@MotiveVideo]

Agreed!

[@sircefiro]

@@MotiveVideo Yep, Motive watchers don't want someone reading the brochure

[@GamingJamesGames]

I love the 1320video reference you put at 6:02 Motive Video. Gave me a good laugh there.

[@MrTaroroot]

The final drive ratios are known, you went through all this math to repeatedly say the same thing about the power to weight, should have used some of that math to compare what the final drive might affect. The engineer said this was done specifically to counter the additional weight, should have done calculations to see what difference it makes. Engine differences are fairly small, both are forged, but the Corolla the engineer has said the piston metal is stronger. And they've improved the piston oiling. Nothing about springs, nothing about turbo size. Just more boost and improved exhaust back pressure.

[@yourmotherlovesit]

also up a couple of point in compression

[@JacesOwnWorld]

And the GR Corolla fanboy has entered the chat…

[@pcx4545]

@@JacesOwnWorld How could be there fans of a car that hasn't been sold yet? Also the motive video guy is overlooking important differences that were factory improved but the real differences will be shown when both cars are tested side by side

[@yourmotherlovesit]

@@JacesOwnWorld and what is your point?

[@MotiveVideo]

@@yourmotherlovesit Where is proof of this?

[@y.b.-]

We should be thankful indeed, fun cars like these are pretty much a decreasing animal and that is why we should buy em (86 / BRZ included)

[@JG-zb7om]

Thank you for telling everyone to buy the Yaris over the Corolla. That’s hopefully more Corollas for the USA, which is the only one we get.

[@squealnight]

I believe I heard that Europe wasn't getting the corolla anyways?

[@krazed0451]

I watched the video, I still want the Rolla... I'm not chasing lap times ;-)

[@Aglai76]

@@squealnight I've heard the same

[@Jimmyjimjim]

@@squealnight They're not getting Yaris either, at least while the production lines are tied up with Corolla.

[@binskee677]

haha it's not like you can get the Yaris now if you order one (if you can order one)

[@Motorsportsgeek]

personally, the light weight and nimbleness the yaris has compared to a bigger rolla is hard to beat. Not many "rally" spec cars in such small packages and I love it. The intro summed it perfectly. Shame im in North America where everything has to be obese including our cars...

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

The GR isn’t actually that small… well by U.K./EU standards. Needs a surprisingly wide parking space with the massive back arches and the wide doors

[@linchester8464]

there is no one size fits all and Toyota making both Yaris and Corolla in GR forms is a win win for buyers that said it also means more interchangeable parts between the 2 cars since they share the same engine drivetrain config.

[@90beastmaster]

Problem is they're in entirely different markets.

[@leonk5793]

I have a GR Yaris that I absolutely love - the Corolla looks awesome though and would be an excellent choice for someone looking to purchase a hot hatch...

[@tt-rs1457]

Is it based on the Engine, Mercedes put it into the Smart ?

[@US_Beagle]

Can't wait for head studs and or gasket development to finally breakthrough on this platform. This car is so awesome, love the videos and the amount of time you guys have spent to really break down the process as you've modified and learned about the Yaris!

[@Eratosthenes0815]

Being from Europe and owning a GR Yaris I must say: I love that Toyota has introduced the (much more common) GR Corola. - Hope that this will reach Europe some times. THNX 4 uploading your video.

[@jasonyoung6420]

The GR Yaris is always going to have the weight advantage over the GR Corolla; it's less car, but when you went into "weight reduction" calculations, you assumed the same weight would come out of both cars, but there is going to be more weight stripped out of the corolla interior; there is just more of it, as it is more car. There is still going to be a significant weight difference between the two in favor of the Yaris, but it felt worth mentioning. The Corolla has an additional ~1.8in/4.6cm of track width, as well as a longer wheelbase, which will result in higher lateral G's and increased high speed stability, again worth noting if you're doing something besides drag racing. HOWEVER - I'm looking for one (GR Corolla as I live in North America) as a "stock" until the warranty is up, then "lightly modified" daily, that I can haul my kids around in, I will be dumping a RWD IS350 for it, once I can get the one I want (Circuit edition in red, wish we got the neptune/agean/voodoo blue as an option). The GR Corolla makes more sense in our market, where a two door Yaris would have to compete with similarly priced V8 monsters (mustangs, camaros, challengers), the four door can come in as the practical performance vehicle (that isn't another CUV). I used to own a 2006 WRX wagon, and it was practical performance at the time, and accepted mods reasonably well. I'd wonder how a Golf R would stack up against a GR Yaris; more weight for sure, but a built EA888 currently has much higher limits (partially due to the existing extensive aftermarket).

[@binskee677]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqPPf2WkptZsaMU this is how they compare. It depends on the track who is faster or not. regarding weight, it would make a couple of kilos i agree but the difference wouldn't be too large. The corolla is bigger yes but it will not even out the higher weight. The Yaris already has a wheelbase of a 911 and the track width of a E92 M3 and is considered a traction monster in the twisties.

[@Mr83rt]

I have a vz clubsport that came out with 297kws from factory (supposedly). While I'm now wanting more power for the heavy girl, to have 300+ kws on either the yaris or rolla I feel would be amazing in such a small car not to mention the current technology that goes along with it. Thank you for showing us all the capabilities of this amazing machine

[@sm-r8997]

Imagine the 400kw that's boosted ls territory, would be incredible!

[@zaksuzuki]

I think a lot of people underestimate or don’t really comprehend how quick 400kw in a 1200kg awd is. It’s almost silly on the street.

[@Mr83rt]

@@zaksuzuki let's hope we don't find a lot of these beautiful little beasts in scrap heaps in the next couple of years.

[@stuartwhite7998]

Really top quality video Andrew. Need more of these videos

[@csfetsos7]

Thank you for bringing up the market value of the GR Yaris 💪

[@akaYOOOOO]

Never selling mine 🙅

[@markos8400]

@@akaYOOOOO Same! Hope to pass it on to my daughter lol

[@charliebates9141]

Thanks for adding those imperial stats for us American folk, trust your guys word on modifying these cars over some of the stuff I hear in the states.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Good video and I agree. Weight is going to play a major part on how the cars will compare to each other in performance.

[@xyanide1986]

It comes down to the application, who's going to need what and how much each would sell. I think it's a smart move to give the US a corolla instead of a yaris because it'll sell much better. In Europe it's the opposite where marketing a performance 5-door Corolla makes less sense, because it'd be competing with the likes of the Golf R on its home turf. The majority would just go with a Golf R.

[@5lcalais1]

If they'd put a 2L 4 in it then it would be competitive with the golfs etc. but for some odd reason they stuck a 3 in it 😔

[@Aglai76]

@@5lcalais1 yeah but they'd've had to design a whole new I-4 for that because as far as I'm Aware they just don't have a current 4 cylinder that would fit/work in this car/drivetrain

[@5lcalais1]

@@Aglai76 but they do lol The current camry engine would drop straight in, it's a 2.4L na but wouldn't be hard for Toyota to destroke n reduce bore size to 2L and add a turbo or just keep it a 2.4 and add a turbo ,even na the 2.4 goes pretty damn good 👌

[@alexflavoie]

@@5lcalais1 No way they could fit that engine in a Corolla/Yaris engine bay with a turbo. Its already a bit tight in the Camry and the turbo will take significantly more room. Also reducing it to 2L won't actually change the dimensions of the engine at all.

[@5lcalais1]

@@alexflavoie would fit no problems ,there's actually quite a lot of room in the corolla engine bays, the current fwd corolla has a 1.8 or 2L 4 (not sure which) but it's dimensions would be very close to the Camry 2.4 (they're the same series engine just different capacity), either way it'd fit fine , the engine bays are deceivingly roomy, a Camry engine bay actually has tons of room, could fit a g45 in there no worries lol Seen 3sgte's stuffed into starlets and they're engine bays are tiny in comparison so if they can do that a 2.4 into a corolla is piss easy. On that though they could've just used the current corolla 1.8/2L and re engineered it slightly to be a turbo engine no problems. Toyota missed an opportunity there and being u can buy a golf or a Merc turbo 4 cyl for the same money. In case your unaware these 3cyls are extremely high strung from the factory, they run like 28/30psi stock ,a 4 could make the same power on 12/14psi which 1 makes it less stressed and 2 more potential for hp gains. 👍

[@g____-590]

Just what I was looking for, good job mate.

[@joelllux88]

Nice vid and comparison. I have to disagree on the street cred for model names though. Corolla has much more of an impressive pedigree than a bloody Yaris does.

[@5lcalais1]

Sure does, I remember as a teen in the late 90s ke55s were all the rage ,was a mad ke55 coupe up the road from where we lived that was sick and I wanted it so bad lol, had twin webbers on a Celica twin cam 1600 with the ol super trap muffler on Simmons mesh wheels , thing was roudy af 👌

[@sepg5084]

The GR Yaris is a homolgated rallye car, the GR Corolla is not. So currently, the GR Yaris has better street cred and better potential than a Corolla. They had to make the GR Corolla for the US because average americans won't comfortably fit inside a GR Yaris 😂

[@joelllux88]

@@sepg5084 haha maybe they did. Albeit the Yaris being a homologated rally car, the corolla was rallying before the Yaris was born. rolla's cred/history smashes it out of the park: fast and fun rwd cars/fwd cars, cult classic engines, the AE86 cult classic, the AE86 rolla inspiring the GT86, the AE86 inspiring DK and drifting, the WRC rolla and Formula drift rollas etc. Yaris has one victory from a very boring bland history. Either way though the future looks good for Toyota.

[@Aglai76]

@@sepg5084 tell that to the average American in the south. No matter how many times I tried explaining it, it always ended with "but it's a YARIS lol"/"c'mon, a Yaris?"

[@binskee677]

@@joelllux88 Yaris is co developed by the tommy makkinen rallye team, i don't think you can have more street cred than that haha but tbh if i'd see a yaris on the street it would be more special than the corolla, it's just more bespoke and very different to the standard yaris.

[@dyldobaggins8173]

i'm just happy there will be more parts development for the 3 pot

[@elvingarcia3770]

The GR corolla has a different Differential ratio so it compensates for the weight and gives it a little more pep to it and feels more responsive

[@MotiveVideo]

You know how much difference it is right? It's not much.

[@krazed0451]

I fall into the 'lightly modified daily' category. I'll take the Rolla, you're right that 2 more doors count ;-)

[@apsb21]

I personally believe since it's a JDM car, and they know people will be comparing the Yaris and Corolla, I call it has a different turbo. 3000-4000 rpm vs 3000-5200 does tell has a different ar. But you will know better when you will tune one. Anyways a great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@MotiveVideo]

Its all boost in the tune mate Same turbo

[@Overseerdv]

@Motive Video; Gotta agree with you! I am a recent owner of GRC, but would be without if Toyota did not build such an awesome purpose-built car like the GR Yaris. I can only hope to tag along for a ride in a GRY some day, I bet it's a hoot even when not tuned. Have to be thankful overall like you say that Toyota built these and that they are thoroughbred Toyota's unlike the other "GR"s. I came from a 2019 Corolla hatch 6-spd daily never thinking I'd get the opportunity behind the wheel of a GRC, aimed for it thinking the GR couldn't not be worse of course, but man was I surprised how far a step-above it is in comparison. I also own an A80. I love how different it feels in comparison; feels more like a small balanced knife where the A80 is a longsword LOL; the GRY must feel like a throwing star haha!

[@tkinak]

The GR Corolla Morizo edition is "nearly 100lb lighter" (CF roof) with a passenger seat, maybe 125lb w/o a passenger seat. Plus it gets a 22 ftlb bump in torque. Evens it up a little bit more in stock form. I'd like to see a stock Yaris run side by side with a Morizo Corolla.

[@superspadez]

In the USA The gr. corolla is better because we didn't get the gr yaris.

[@Philbyyyy]

So heavy in comparison though

[@Jason-sn2tc]

Are the track widths the same? Is the Corolla wider? Wider tire

[@CalculatedRiskAK]

I'm hoping we see stud and head gasket kits becoming commonplace by the time people go for big power in the Corolla, since it's now known that the studs and gasket seem to be the first weak point. Honestly, that's probably the best first weak point to have, instead of snapping a rod and sending it through the block or floating a valve and punching a hole in your piston.

[@mattyoz0]

How is the base model lighter than the rallye when the rallye has the forged wheels? where did you come up with 40kg difference?

[@MotiveVideo]

Have to ask Toyota went off their website

[@mattyoz0]

@@MotiveVideo They don't state the rallye weighing more, they just have the weight difference in general. 1280-1320. The circuit/rallye has been weighed and its the lighter car.

[@wudntulike2no32]

Forged wheels doesn't always mean that they are lighter than cast wheels. I was surprised when I started putting wheels on a scale.

[@mattyoz0]

@@wudntulike2no32 well they are 13kgs lighter.

[@wudntulike2no32]

How was that 13kgs confirmed? I've seen forums and rumors spread so much bs about so many cars in my lifetime.

[@parkers8119]

Unfortunately us over here in the US don’t have the option for the gr Yaris :( I was so happy when hearing about the gr Corolla just because we will be able to experience the platform for the first time! Both are awesome cars but I agree with everything, and personally I like 2 door styling more. Great video thanks for the info!

[@hoagy_ytfc]

I recently bought a GR Yaris. Would definitely have waited for a GR Corolla if it was to be available in the UK.

[@Michal_S0L]

I hope you can buy the circuit spec rear spoiler and put it on the core model rolla

[@insom4539]

Great! Have you guys experienced the AWD system overheating? If yes? How did you fix it?

[@MotiveVideo]

Weve seen others experience it but we never did.

[@insom4539]

I am assuming you guys have the open diff base model thats why, I believe the torsen diffs have this issue@@MotiveVideo

[@jlb8696]

I agree 100% lighter is better specially you take one piston off the weight is so important I agree💯

[@davidt3196]

I'm a huge fan of the channel and hope you guy's don't take this the wrong way but I don't think the second camera angle worked, otherwise great video as always.

[@KTH96]

What's the weight distribution of the GR Yaris?

[@all-flat-engines]

I’d like a Yaris, most KZbinrs who are freaking out love a Yaris. Problem is we all live in North America so obviously we’re excited to finally get something/anything for once

[@volcom514]

Let’s not forget GR Yaris won 2021 WRC Championship , Triple crown n that’s Badass 🤘🏼

[@zbeasty]

It will be interesting whether the 8 speed auto currently being developed for the GR Corolla will hold the same sort of performance advantage over the manual that a DSG equipped Golf R has over the manual. It may just make up for the extra weight it carries compared to the Yaris in the quarter mile.

[@bryandean9560]

Do you have a link discussing this auto trans? I've not seen any talk of an auto gr corolla.

[@tonyw2960]

I did see a few pictures of a auto gr yaris apparently testing an auto gearbox but who knows with picture editing these days lol

[@5lcalais1]

Can't have one of these and it not be a proper manual tbh it'd be a hell of a lot more fun to drive , who cares if the auto or dsg or whatever is faster as they're not as much fun 🤔

[@tonyw2960]

@@5lcalais1 agreed I have a gr yaris and the uk won't be getting the corolla so I'll never know 😂

[@5lcalais1]

@@tonyw2960 really I thought everyone was getting them ,that sucks 😔 Don't know why they do that.

[@SnaccDaddyy]

How much extra weight could you get out of the GR corolla with the extra trim etc? Would it bring it down to being closer at all?

[@MotiveVideo]

Very unlikely The big weight savers same in both

[@vwishndaetr]

This can be a 30 second video. Yes, a Yaris with the same powerplant as the Corolla will be faster than the Corolla. Good job.

[@MotiveVideo]

We kind if like facts to support arguments

[@khvidtube1617]

5:18 275kW engine, 250kW hub. That is about 9% power loss at the wheels for an AWD car. Is that correct?

[@MotiveVideo]

Power loss is NOT a percentage. It is closer to a fixed amount/ you cant calculate loss stock then use same percentage as power goes up. drivetrain loss remains basically fixed.

[@khvidtube1617]

@@MotiveVideo What you said makes good sense. Whatever the initial amount of power loss is, remains the same with the same car. But just 25kW (33HP) of power loss is a real bargain.

[@K4rvanaama]

As standard, how long lasting will that engine be? many buys Yaris or Corolla as a daily car also.. how will they do as a long term?

[@antonisp6629]

Exceptional video and talk aw always. This chanel is severly underrated

[@davidhouston7812]

Street cred? Rolla! Now what's street cred 😂

[@filofaith]

Didn't talk about aero, apparently GR Corolla cp has a lot of functional bits. Also has a flat floor (apparently).

[@MotiveVideo]

Will be 3/5ths of stuff all different

[@QuackLoud]

Sorry, but the really important diff is not the weight --- it's availability!! I can't get the Yaris here in the USA. LOL. Of course with limited production (and greedy Toyota dealers) I probably won't be able to buy the Corolla this year. Another great video. Thanks.

[@sircefiro]

I think that sums it up, I'd take the Corolla for a daily & prefer a bit bigger than the Yaris, but as just a toy the Yaris

[@jimmyneutron1889]

What I learned from this video: Tim Tams are amazing.

[@stephensaunders5638]

Hi I have been following your build for long time now and have a gr yaris with the same mods I am wondering if I can talk to someone about the fuel system set up really would be so helpful thanks

[@dogshmog]

Here’s the thing… analysis of parts has shown the GRC engine has a slew of updates including new pistons, cams, valves, valve springs, and likely other parts. Power potential is likely a fair bit higher on the GRC.

[@Mr16bit]

Is this why its easier to go faster in a lambo compared to a R35? That lotus fella was onto something

[@sw20indy]

Are there any gearing differences? Do you think the wheelbase difference will alter handling stability between the two?

[@MotiveVideo]

Wheelbase to track ratio is very close. Ratio change is so small it will make no difference

[@kevintboy9538]

So hear me out max out the engine put it in the GR 86 chassis. Does anyone know of a transmission or could the 86 transmission be modified

[@dimmacommunication]

Quick question : could the flex fuel use E98 with considerable gains over e85 ? provided that the fuel system can handle...

[@coldvaper]

Im still really pissed we didnt get the GR Yaris here in the states. That being said I did manage to get on the list for the GR Corolla but I only want the circuit edition and they are only making it for 1 year so I doubt I will be able to get one....

[@jaybosher6144]

are your sure it's not just that one color for a year? I thought they said it was just that limited to that year for the color. I dont see them just engineering all that bodywork to just sell it for one year

[@pirkkaruuska5766]

Is there any market that will get both cars?

[@anthonywhelan8373]

Does the corrolla have a wider track and longer wheelbase if so it would more than likely feel more planted on the race track? And what would happen if you put both stock cars on a circuit with comparable drivers the faster car 🚗 in a straight line won’t always be faster around a circuit food for thought oh and the Yaris is pretty much the same weight as a vl commodore so it’s not that light like a lot of people would think

[@MotiveVideo]

Its ratio of wheelbase vs track that determines that feel and its negligible difference

[@EliahHoliday]

Well the Yaris GR is not available in North America. What I am wondering is is it even worth tuning a Corolla GR if you're only running 91 Octane gas and not E85.

[@robertt3715]

The pistons and exhaust valves in the GR Corolla are also a different, stronger alloy, as part of the engine being designed for a higher HP output. Also, the exhaust valves are larger, with stiffer valve springs. They are not identical engines. And the GR Corolla, if you are looking from a tuning perspective, might be the more reliable after mods of the two *because* of those differences, and possibly even handle higher power more safely.

[@MotiveVideo]

They’re being upgraded for an extra 20kW. Our reports is exhaust valves are new material, not larger, and exhaust valves and pistons are not a weak point at 500hp anyway Valve spring upgrade for extra 2psi isnt necessarily going to handle the 35+psi we throw either, so probably still need upgrading

[@robertt3715]

@@MotiveVideo The exhaust valves are also larger, according to Toyota's press release. Still, saying they are identical engines is still not correct. Granted, I can't get the Yaris here anyways, but I'd still rather have the Corolla, and I love smaller cars, I have a Mini JCW currently.

[@christopherh3389]

So, when you gonna build a Corolla then? I’m curious to see how close they can get with extra weight of the Corolla

[@lukemothug3744]

Your thoughts on the GR Corolla Morizo Edition?

[@ScottyMcCraigles]

Isn't the GR Corolla going to have more tuning headroom than the GR Yaris because of the thickened cylinder walls (mentioned by Toyota in an interview I saw), so the actual difference in power:weight is going to be mute when pushed to the limits? Also, you'd be able to strip out more weight from the Corolla than the Yaris as the interior pieces are larger, so that calculation would require some adjustment. I'd still assume it'd favour the Yaris prior to the potential tuning headroom though.

[@CG-yh6js]

there is the diffrence in width and length that will make handling different. Might upset what we think on a circuit. We will see when we start getting our cars. 2nd in line here on the order book for the corolla.

[@MotiveVideo]

80mm longer and 40mm wider wheelbase to track ratio is bugger all different

[@taroitofilau3983]

I think longer wheelbase on the Corolla might help with top speed stability.

[@meanman6992]

Are there packaging advantages under the hood to the GR Corolla?

[@MotiveVideo]

No

[@danielbustamante5192]

The removed weight would be different, larger rear seat is removed, larger carpets areas, if the door cards were removed from the Yaris then 4 door cards with speakers instead of 2. Too much bias towards the Yaris in the video. It’s understandable since that’s what you know but speculating about what another platform would perform like in hypothetical situations…it’s just doesn’t sit right. Thanks for the b roll footage of the Yaris though, super nice build.

[@zahab210]

Imagine if they made a car with this powertrain to compete with the Kona N. A lifted AWD hatch would do wonders in the states!

[@pheonixfps9248]

New GR corolla has been reported to have a bigger turbo and more aggressive gearing. It'll be interesting to see if that rings true due to so many varied reports. Looks, the 'rolla wins hands down for me. The Yaris still looks like it's been in a car crusher and pulled out at the wrong moment. It's ugly as sin, to me. In car noise in the Yaris was up there too, so it'll be interesting to see how much quiter the 'rolla is inside. 12 months post release date will show the truth. Good video as usual Andrew, welldone.

[@stephensaunders5638]

The gr yaris is more of a race car you are right but people will try to disagree it funny the corolla will be a slow and lest attractive car thank for saying the truth

[@Captainiwack]

I’m excited for the Grc here in the states since we can’t get the Yaris. Have a deposit on one wish me luck. I did read somewhere that some components of the engine were upgraded compared to the Yaris

[@182mcg1]

How many torque at the hub

[@copperkeyracing6167]

You could have summed up the entire video by saying that a Boltons&tuned GR Yaris gains 100hp vs a Boltons&tuned GR Corolla gains 60hp. This is with a stock turbo, and it's the same thing as you go from there... It's 40hp difference [that a corolla needs extra] stock, 40hp difference [that a corolla doesn't get extra] with boltons, and 40hp difference [that a corolla needs extra] going all out till the block gives up [at about 500hp]. That's it, please drive through.

[@marcmann982]

But he didnt talk about the upgrades to the g16 engine in the corolla over the base yaris version like better valvetrain and pistons. We still dont know if toyota addressed issues with the head studs and headgasket on the corolla too so it might be able to make more power easier so the gap between the two might be closer and corolla might be easier to make power

[@MotiveVideo]

All indicators are engine is exactly the same

[@marcmann982]

@@MotiveVideo are you referring to the head gasket and studs or in general? Because toyota had advised that they used stronger valvetrain and better pistons in the newer Corolla version in the press conference and chief advisor has mentioned it in interviews as well so was getting clarification

[@danlau9]

@@marcmann982 they completely ignored everyone thar pointed out Toyot themselves stated the G16 in the GRC will be improved to hold the extra boost lol. Probably because this fact completely destroys the arguments made in this video about tuning potential etc etc. Kind of funny imo that they don't even research it or acknowledge their misinformation presented.

[@marcmann982]

@@danlau9 Yeah, that's pretty much what I kind of gathered. Love the channel still but outside of weight advantage that's really all the yaris has over the GRC It's looking like the GRC will have a better engine though to start with and then once the US aftermarket companies get their hands on them the head gasket in stud issue addressed to make over 500+ whp if it already hasn't been

[@danlau9]

@@marcmann982 I have a feeling not all the differences have been fully announced yet. The GRC also will get a faster steering wrack, possibly even faster than the 86 based on info from another KZbinr. Once all thr tech specs are released I have a feeling the GRC will have many new goodies the GRY doesn't.

[@VampirusX]

The Yaris looks so mascular tho still like sort of a sleeper. The Corolla looks like a ... Corolla ... but I think, that most see the Yaris as a "normal" car as well. I think, the Yaris looks so special and fresh.

[@BrodeyDoverosx]

Can the Yaris fit the same size tires as the Corolla? I’m pretty sure the Corolla has more weight to lose than the Yaris.

[@binskee677]

Yaris can fit up to 255s square, i don't know if more tire would make sense. Some have fitted 265's but you need to mod/ add more camber then

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

So glad the GR Corolla will be carrying a small motorbike worth of extra air bags and emissions devices

[@Aglai76]

As someone who's actually been in a crash, the more airbags the better Emissions on the other hand... 🙄

[@MrScoobieman]

I don’t know if it will make a difference but you have to also take in consideration that the Corolla GR has stronger internals

[@binskee677]

does it? do you have a source for that?

[@Bikini_ST]

Stronger internals dont make an engine more power. Same as an intercooler doesnt make more power. They simply allow more of a threshold to make or power. Air and fuel being the limiting factor, especially for econo boxes. It truly doesnt matter. I do remember gathering the info about a stronger drivetrain.

[@MrScoobieman]

@@Bikini_ST I didn’t say it would make more power because it has stronger internals, and I agree with what you’re saying

[@phg4977]

Slightly. The pistons are slightly modified to handle the bit more boost. That's it.

[@MrScoobieman]

@@phg4977 more boost more dates

[@Daniel-dg3np]

Love these videos. With power to weight you do need to consider additional mass such as driver, this would make the cars a little closer. I also suspect a Corolla would have more mass that could be taken out than a Yaris (or at least the same proportion/%). When it comes to track work the Corolla also has a 45mm wider track than the GR Yaris.

[@MotiveVideo]

Its also longer wheelbase so ratio about the same. Both have same seats, both have rear seats and both have an exhaust. same weight removal strategy would be the same or very close to

[@domsimonf]

I'm very curious to see what mechanical revisions get done between the 2 cars. I wonder if the headgasket or valve springs in particular have been upgraded or stay the same. time will tell

[@MotiveVideo]

All reports are same

[@danlau9]

@@MotiveVideo you're incorrect... thr GRC has upgraded engine components vs. the GRY.... this has been announced already. We don't know what else they have or will upgrade.

[@louieluis8840]

Its the eV revolution already!! The gas engine cars should have rested with The Golden Girls…ja ja ja

[@k20z3allmotorFTW]

I think the pistons are different in the Corolla

[@georgeedwards3253]

Being in America, yes the gr yaris all day long. However, we can’t have it. Thankfully Toyota is giving us the gr corolla. Here’s hope dealer markup won’t be crazy.

[@watchandenjoy7898]

I feel like this happened with the Mitsubishi 1st gen EVO and the 1st gen GSX. Regardless both are fucking amazing 👌

[@fob4less]

The 1st gen Galant vr4 was better

[@grecoconduris6716]

Sounds silly. But I kind of hoped they added an extra cylinder on that engine for the Corolla. Cause in my mind in standard trim the Yaris is a Hyper hatch in the B car segment and the Corolla is a hot hatch in the C car segment. Not that there is anything wrong with being “just” a hot hatch. Just feel like baby brother is out doing big brother.

[@el-kenepo]

Inthat case at its stock form, it will be a 400hp car. Giving some chills at Supra or even a GTR... 🤔🔥🔥

[@grecoconduris6716]

@@el-kenepo that’s what I was thinking. Putting it in the category with the RS3 and A45S

[@omargonzales3]

Correction- Mexico got 300 Gr Yaris. So yes North America did received the wrc Yaris.

[@EricaMTB]

I assume that the frontal area is also bigger and therefore a disadvantage in the corolla.

[@holdenss17]

Can't wait for the gr corolla🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@richardyorke9055]

Couldn't help but notice the rear bumper vents are the opposite way round to how everyone has fitted them. Maybe because your down under!

[@harleyschopp2381]

I'm 6'5" and about 215lbs, and I would be heartbroken if they released the yaris in the US, because I don't fit. I, for one, am happy we're getting the corolla, and don't care overly much about the minor differences it'll have with the yaris. The GR Corolla still looks like it will be the best hot hatch available in the US. I'll be trading in my '17 Manual TRD Off-Road Tacoma for it at the first available opportunity.

[@CosineHyperbolic]

Imagine sacrificing everything the GRY has over the GRC - calling it minor - because you're a tiny bit taller than average...just get a new seat! Lol, THAT's what I call minor.

[@lukemothug3744]

6'5 is tall but not that tall I think Shak would be more upset if he couldn't fit into a Yaris.

[@harleyschopp2381]

@@lukemothug3744 no, it's not that tall, but it's tall enough to not comfortably fit into a yaris, which is the point I was making.

[@harleyschopp2381]

@@CosineHyperbolic the yaris also wouldn't suit my daily needs as well as a slightly larger car. I wouldn't be able to fit my physical self or my work equipment into one very easily, and I don't think it's unreasonable to say I'm happy we're getting the corolla which I will actually be able to use. Small cargo space differences are significant in the real world and daily life, and I travel back and forth across the country semi regularly for work. I'll lightly modify a corolla if/when I get my hands on one, and have a usable quick-ish hot hatch to drive around every day. The tenths of a second difference at the ragged edge of the car's performance are a small price to pay for that.

[@CosineHyperbolic]

@@harleyschopp2381 Well sure, all that makes much more sense regarding why you'd prefer the GRC!

[@dewaay6398]

I was excited for the gr Yaris until I heard it wasn't available in the US. Why do companies keep thinking everyone wants a 4-5 door

[@5lcalais1]

A 2 door corolla would've been mad tbh ,it's funny I'd actually prefer the 5 door as it's just way more practical for me personally, for the price tag I could only afford to have 1 car , they'll be about 70k here in oz ,would make a great daily/weekend warrior for sure though 👍

[@andrewlangford88]

Fair but also remember that the GR corolla has better pistons and probably better valve springs from factory. You'll also be able pull more weight out of the corolla compared to the Yaris I would imagine.

[@MotiveVideo]

No one we’ve asked can confirm that. And doesn’t atop head lifting

[@jakeclews646]

And from what I've heard, it had bigger cams. Which will effect power figures after a tune, so this is all guess work till you get the Rolla on a dyno. But that fact that it has functional back seats, means it wins for anyone that doesn't focus on a drag strip

[@wudntulike2no32]

You guys spend too much time in forums. If you don't have the Toyota parts numbers to compare then it's bullshit.

[@grimreaper6112]

@@wudntulike2no32 does your mum work at Toyota mine does and she still loves her Datsun.

[@teavstravel]

No one can confirm the parts are different… or the same… (yet). We are assuming no matter which way we assume, so I guess the comments claiming they’re different are just as valid as the video that assumed they’re the same. Interesting video either way. I actually like the middle of the video where it talks more about what’s better for each person based on their wants and needs. End of the day it’s much of a muchness. Horses for courses.

[@alpiv64]

Pricing will be interesting , in Australia I think the GR Corolla Circuit Edition will be AUD $70,000 + ?? very expensive

[@5lcalais1]

70k is a bit yeah but look at the prices of the older performance cars now, I'd love a s6 rx7 but can't find one under 60k ,r32 gtrs I haven't seen one under 80k in over a yr so 70k for a brand new performance car is actually really good value in comparison.

[@alpiv64]

@@5lcalais1 Agree prices are crazy for older cars and bikes . Like you said makes new cars look cheap , I paid $38250 for a new i30N 3 years ago could sell it tomorrow for $42000 but replacement would be $48 to 50k

[@5lcalais1]

@@alpiv64 it's bs what people want for cars now, quite literally everything I want is way outa reach now n tbh they're not worth it for what u get, 90s n early 2000s cars aren't as great people think they are, they're cool but for the money u can buy a brand new car that is 1000 times a better equipped, better performance car so you'd be mad not to buy brand new instead, sure it won't be as valuable but if your buying a car for it's monetary value then you've bought it for the wrong reason lol I buy em to enjoy em not get rich off of em. E.g. my 89 Commodore in it's current condition I could easily ask 10k for it even though 5 yrs ago I payed 650$ for it cause that's all they were worth and it's mint, 144,000klms on it, it's a rarer colour n trim one too so kinda lucked out on that one lol but yeah now it's valued at 10k but I don't care cause I'm never selling it cause I'll never afford another one if the price trends continue like they are, but in saying that the bubble will burst at some point especially when people just let go of their desire to own them and just buy new cars instead 🤔 Personally I'm waiting for mustangs to be a couple of grand and I'm going to stick pile em and store em away for 20 yrs lol with the advent of ev's they'll be worth a mint to collector's, I'd imagine ice vehicles will be quite a bit rarer in 20/30yrs 🤔

[@taroitofilau3983]

Great video!

[@thomasrussell45]

Hahaha great video, you had me at 1:57 😂

[@timduckett487]

GR-corolla for me.i think it all boils down to one's preference.when you get your hands on one of the gr corolla and do the same mods has the gr yaris then we 'll see the real giant.

[@eag8999]

To be fair, more interior = more weight to pull out. Even if it is only 25lbs more.

[@MotiveVideo]

What more interior does it have? rear door trims is it

[@eag8999]

@@MotiveVideo larger rear seats, more headliner, more insulation, more carpet, larger trunk, door cards.

[@LucasSi919]

Agreed BUT a Corolla is more practical. For someone who needs a daily driver to get to work and back and is also a "Spirited" driver the Corolla is a way better choice. U might have 50 hp more in terms of weight to power but can you fit 3 additional people plus the driver inside the Yaris and also stop at a grocery store and fit 2 weeks worth of groceries?... So in terms of "bang for buck" which one is REALLY the better choice

[@trevor6814]

PLS BUILD A COROLLA the way you’d build the 3cyl now having a good perspective of it’s quirks and limitations. Maybe a rally version for more views?