EVO VII vs GR Yaris 1.6 Circuit Pack - Shootout OLD VS NEW | Fifth Gear

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@fifthgearuk
@fifthgearuk 2 жыл бұрын
To watch Plato's other shootout with the Yaris, where it was up against a Celica, click here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3POe5arrdGAe80&t=
@Vladimirr0n
@Vladimirr0n 2 жыл бұрын
Fifth Gear было бы очень интересно, если бы вы указывали покрышки, на которых проводилось контрольное измерение времени круга. Хотя бы указывали, что они одной марки и модели. Спасибо. It would be very interesting if you would indicate the tires on which the lap time control measurement was carried out. At least they indicated that they are of the same make and model. Thanks.
@AyushK7318
@AyushK7318 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to see where top gear has changed a lot, Fifth gear still has that feel it did back then. And I love it!
@MuzikM_85
@MuzikM_85 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Still reminds me of watching it back then. Nothing has changed and it's all the best for it.
@trueseeker262
@trueseeker262 2 жыл бұрын
The original top gear crew set the bar so high. The new crew isnt the same.
@MisterWileyOne
@MisterWileyOne 2 жыл бұрын
The producers found a good formula early on and haven't added gimmicky bits to "keep it fresh". I believe many viewers view shows like a comfortable pullover. You come back to wearing it because it's worn in and familiar.
@ijunglistwilliams8659
@ijunglistwilliams8659 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that Fifth Gear did their own formula and stuck to it. That is why lesser creative shows fall to obscurity. Top Gear went silly for 59 straight minutes with filler crap even with Clarkson, Hammond and May since the early noughties. The reason people hate TG now is because the punchline is coming from a different person. Still love all motoring shows though. That's how I justify my television licence. I divide all the TG and Fifth Gear episodes by 12
@matthewnicholas6365
@matthewnicholas6365 2 жыл бұрын
And way better for it. Top Gear is now completely unwatchable trash.
@mituc
@mituc 2 жыл бұрын
I'd still like to know what the EVO would have done with tires and brakes that were not 20 years old... I know the Yarris GR has PS4s'es, all I can see about the EVO tires is that they were rounded quite a bit. On such a short and technical track the tire choice is critical.
@sunsetgarage755
@sunsetgarage755 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a bit special if you think that evo still has the exact same tyres & pads as 20 years ago Victor
@mituc
@mituc 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunsetgarage755 Well, I wish you felt the irony in what I said, obviously those tires and pads are not really 20 years old, they can't be, but they weren't new either. I understand TG wanted to compare stock versus stock, but at least don't do it on tires and brakes that are near the end of their life.
@ronjatter
@ronjatter 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Also noticed the evo had a different intercooler so perhaps it's making a bit more power than stock, however as the poster above said the tyres are the main factor!
@Greenswift93
@Greenswift93 2 жыл бұрын
@@mituc TG?
@kevenb2000
@kevenb2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronjatterevo has standard intercooler on
@rod750
@rod750 2 жыл бұрын
While Tommi Mäkinen is synonymous with the Lancer Evolution, he also had significant input into the GR Yaris too.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
Alot of people forget that, he was the driving force behind development of the GR - even wrote off quite a few cars during testing to ensure everything was just right.
@rasch19785
@rasch19785 2 жыл бұрын
That's what pushed my to order the Yaris, Tommi's Hand in the development of the car
@samuelgarrod8327
@samuelgarrod8327 2 жыл бұрын
Sfw?
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: What common has Audi gr.B, Mitsubishi Evo gr.A and Yaris WRC? A: Test driver Lasse Lampi
@martineering.evoluzione
@martineering.evoluzione Жыл бұрын
@@rasch19785 Makinen did not develop the Yaris GR from scratch, but Juho Hanninen
@bazzmundo
@bazzmundo 2 жыл бұрын
We really need to see the older cars on comparable modern tyres because most of these legends will be equipped with new rubber by their enthusiast owners. Perhaps a comparison between before and after fitting modern tyres as well could be interesting.
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 2 жыл бұрын
With modern brake pads and new discs too, I bet that would claw back a chunk of that 1.4s. I doubt there would be much between them. Pretty incredible give how old the Evo 7 is now. Or maybe that's it strength - it isn't bloated and overweight like so many modern cars.
@timmyisasleep
@timmyisasleep 2 жыл бұрын
Fifth gear made the same mistake when they compared the yaris to the celica gt4
@kasugakyosuke6441
@kasugakyosuke6441 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundseeker63 You forgot one big point in your logic, then you should remap the ECU of the Yaris to be completely fair. If you do so, then you'd still got the Yaris keeping the gap in its advantage, and for sure to increase it.
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 2 жыл бұрын
@@kasugakyosuke6441 Er no we're just talking about modern materials in stuff that you replace routinely anyway (brakes, tyres) not upgrades like remaps.
@barratt5795
@barratt5795 2 жыл бұрын
You think theyve not put tyres on in 20years?
@khimaros
@khimaros 2 жыл бұрын
Was lucky enough to drive an EQ300 EVO on a track day. The instructor tried to avoid me red lining it by telling me to shift early, where it wouldn’t be in the turbo’s power band for the next gear. But I managed to delay my up shift enough to keep the turbo spooled on later laps and it was a monster that felt as easy to drive as a Clio!.. I remember passing all these 50yr old guys driving the Aston Martin’s and Ferraris around quite casually. What a day, and what a car!
@JP-wu8ek
@JP-wu8ek 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I had an EvoIV here in eastern Canada & it was the easiest car to control. It was so good in the snow. Where ever I pointed the wheel it went. I felt like the best driver in the world. I would make my own tracks in parking lots and drive them all day.
@RotrexfezST
@RotrexfezST 2 жыл бұрын
They’re designed to Rev out they have a decent size turbo. He was just trying to save the car being driven too hard lol
@khimaros
@khimaros 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotrexfezST oh for sure! The other instructors all called my guy ‘Johnny Spanners’ because he was also the mechanic that maintained their fleet of sports cars. He was trying to save himself more work at the end of the day and there were already 2 TVRs broken down on track that day! 😀 He was actually a top bloke and I think he quite enjoyed himself because he gave me an extra lap too!
@rblxplaysmochax6808
@rblxplaysmochax6808 2 жыл бұрын
Was the proud owner of a 54 plate 340MR.... I drove it like I stole it. Every drive was pure drama.
@CHRISANDREOU4199
@CHRISANDREOU4199 Жыл бұрын
😂😂and now granny's shopping car can beat it😅
@keith6360
@keith6360 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how old the tires are on the evo given that he boiled the brakes? And do both cars have the same tires?
@xRockee
@xRockee 2 жыл бұрын
yeh i would bet the evo is just on a slower tyre
@ll.7927
@ll.7927 2 жыл бұрын
@@xRockee probably
@uv77mc85
@uv77mc85 3 ай бұрын
yes and give the yaris an extra 400cc and a cylinder to make it level
@driver_18
@driver_18 2 жыл бұрын
Plato just demonstrated the real reason why handbrakes/parking brakes shoud remain mechanical. Precisely for the sole purpose of emergency braking when you lose your brakes.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
Agree - I cannot stand these electronic parking brakes that most cars have these days. Well done Toyota for giving us a proper handbrake
@claudedottin1312
@claudedottin1312 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly and why I don’t like certain modern cars
@BodyDestruction
@BodyDestruction 2 жыл бұрын
You can just use the button for the electronic handbrake while driving. It gradually applies more force until stop but is in no way as controllable as a manual handbrake.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
@@BodyDestruction auto handbrakes are totally useless- manual brakes all the way
@mro9466
@mro9466 2 жыл бұрын
pretty sure it's going to snap
@MarkReading
@MarkReading 2 жыл бұрын
I luv watching JP have such great fun driving - puts a smile on my face at the enjoyment he truly is having. He is one great presenter for car driving.
@Jameesjourneys
@Jameesjourneys 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Evo 9 FQ340. Wouldn’t change it for anything!
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol 2 жыл бұрын
Not even a Ferrari SF90?
@rblxplaysmochax6808
@rblxplaysmochax6808 2 жыл бұрын
Had the MR340 a 54 plate and loved it
@Jameesjourneys
@Jameesjourneys 2 жыл бұрын
@@Asiansxsymbol I wish but kids will have to be stuck in the boot 😂
@raindropraindrop
@raindropraindrop 2 жыл бұрын
I will watch anything that has Evo VII. Thank you for this one!
@GazzUnseen
@GazzUnseen 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see this content still being produced, intriguing shootout this. I am a massive fan of the 5th Gear format after all these years, please keep it coming!
@pauleta2
@pauleta2 2 жыл бұрын
Impressed by the Evo, a 20 year car....and is not just brake and tyres, one of the most important handling item that is most likely also 20 years is the suspension rubber bushings...
@willoxmotorsport
@willoxmotorsport 2 жыл бұрын
Evos is full of proper rose bushes,yaris is full of rubber 😏
@terranceblount5959
@terranceblount5959 2 жыл бұрын
This was fun! Crazy part is… I’d still take the older EVO vs the Yaris - both are still great cars, all things considered. 😊
@harjinderkandola6380
@harjinderkandola6380 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know 5th gear was still running. Not seen on TV in ages, changed channels several times. Always liked the show. Used to watch Jason on a car show that used to be on channel 4, before 5th gear. Nice comparison. Good video. Would be interested to see a Civic Type R fk8 compared on the same track
@Matt55131
@Matt55131 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding power to weight ratios it's dependent on the situation I'd say, on a tight technical circuit a car that's 150hp and 1000kg would likely beat a car that's 300hp and 2000kg. But on a track with longer straights that 300hp is going to make a difference, mass is less important once the cars in motion on straights.
@deanmcandrew8050
@deanmcandrew8050 Жыл бұрын
Well said, and 100% agree…..
@gumpy4960
@gumpy4960 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see how much closer it would be if the evos brakes weren’t abit knackered.
@philiphawkins4684
@philiphawkins4684 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what tyres it was on also.
@Theferrariguy
@Theferrariguy 2 жыл бұрын
That time split considering the 20 years of development between them isn't bad . The Gr was developed by Tommi as well I think or atleast the rally version was. So you could see it as a kind of spiritual successor to the Evo in a weird way
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 2 жыл бұрын
Are these cars on the same tires? Tires can make up more than a second a lap
@cosminmihu9963
@cosminmihu9963 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved watching Top Gear for it's entertainment value and Fifth Gear for it's more technical presentation.
@RatelHBadger
@RatelHBadger 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Old Super vs New Daily. How well do the classic pinup supercars of the 80's and older do in all aspects vs a modern family sedan (not even a hot hatch). 0-60, hot lap, stopping time, slalom courses etc. I'd bet those "Super" cars would end up being better left as a bedroom poster.
@sodazman
@sodazman 2 жыл бұрын
Fun comparison! The Evo needs better brakes, suspension and tyres. That's where it lags behind after 20 years.
@maimunrahman9635
@maimunrahman9635 2 жыл бұрын
Easy to sort with all the aftermarket support there has always been since the car's birth
@316CactusJack
@316CactusJack 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine what this guy could do, If you stuck him in a British based saloon racing series. He's got the talent to go far.
@devilsadvocate2548
@devilsadvocate2548 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Shame YT doesn't have a 'laugh' option!
@YK-fj5bj
@YK-fj5bj 2 жыл бұрын
I think he’d do ok. 😁
@ratmanbrian
@ratmanbrian 2 жыл бұрын
You jest? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Plato
@RobManser77
@RobManser77 2 жыл бұрын
@@ratmanbrian You serious? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
@garethh81
@garethh81 2 жыл бұрын
Ash Sutton 😊
@greatwhiteevox1008
@greatwhiteevox1008 2 жыл бұрын
New Tires and Brakes and I wonder what the difference would have been then?
@rhysturner8462
@rhysturner8462 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched the original video from 20 years ago and Tiff was complaining about brake fade on lap 3 on the evo! I had a Hawkeye STI and the brakes on that gave up very quickly too on track. I think Evo & Impreza of the era were under breaked as standard.
@pursuitforspeed
@pursuitforspeed 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhysturner8462 You're right. The OEM rotors and pads are rubbish, but they still shouldn't have used warped rotors and old tyres in the comparison.
@uv77mc85
@uv77mc85 3 ай бұрын
in that case we should give the yaris an extra 400cc if you want everything level
@chris-townson
@chris-townson 2 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see Fifth Gear. They've always had the best mix of new and old cars, supercars and also cars you can afford. I just wish Tiff and Jonny were part of the team still.
@jagymeister
@jagymeister 2 жыл бұрын
20 years difference and GR Yaris costs basically same money... its total bargain considering inflation and everything related.
@steveblackbird
@steveblackbird 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is JP a little more excited driving the 7? Brakes on the Lancer aside, I feel that a track run with identical tyres would be a closer race. As an Evo 6.5 owner and being around people with the GR Yaris (Aus spec got 206kw) I can say the TME is still the king. Though the Toyota does have a lovely interior lol, and that 3 cyl does sound less pleasant when wringing the hell out of it.
@sodazman
@sodazman 2 жыл бұрын
I own both the GR Yaris and an Evo 9 myself. I feel the Evos are more fun to drive probably because they're more raw, engine is more torquey and the steering is more direct.
@jimparry3499
@jimparry3499 2 жыл бұрын
Mmm, I see others have had similar questions to me… a fresh FQ300 with fresh & modern tyres, pads & brake fluid may have seen things a little differently. Reckon the Yaris might have still pipped it but I reckon it’d halve the gap between them! 💁🏼‍♂️ In which case, other than safety & luxury, we haven’t come all that far in 20 years! 💁🏼‍♂️😅
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
The days of homologation cars are long gone, Toyota have essentially gone back and given us an updated version of the cars we all loved from 20 years ago - unlike other manufacturers that seem hell bent on giving us dull cars
@gr1ff1ngton
@gr1ff1ngton 2 жыл бұрын
Factor in inflation: £31,495 in 2022 would be over £53k now, which makes the Yaris a bargain And yes I do miss my Yaris, this video didn’t help either 😂
@yetidh9
@yetidh9 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, although I doubt you’d get 30mpg out of an Evo, even with a tail wind.
@yanceyboyz
@yanceyboyz Жыл бұрын
Haven't come that far? A 3 cylinder Yaris just beat an evo.
@jimparry3499
@jimparry3499 Жыл бұрын
‘Yaris…’ - We all know that bar the lights & mirrors there’s nothing Yaris about it bar the name. Nobody’s questioning it’s a unreal car, I’d have one in a heartbeat if I could afford one, but for now I’ll stick with an Evo!
@alsa4real
@alsa4real 2 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between Active Yaw Control & a traditional LSD?
@kamilozw86
@kamilozw86 2 жыл бұрын
Did u check them on same tyres? If not test is point less . Tyres can give a lot of advantages and couple seconds less in time
@philippepanayotov9632
@philippepanayotov9632 2 жыл бұрын
Love that show! Fifth gear is an institution! Cheers from Bulgaria
@Tj930
@Tj930 2 жыл бұрын
Got the flat cap and the bifocals now, but JP still knows how to turn a wheel 😃👍
@MyJarrus
@MyJarrus 2 жыл бұрын
fifth gear just delivers best show ever, those comparison are golden honestly
@scoobysean555
@scoobysean555 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the Evo gave you a bigger smile 👍
@danasprey4144
@danasprey4144 2 жыл бұрын
Super sick. Loving these insights into the teams development.
@rhysturner8462
@rhysturner8462 2 жыл бұрын
Circuit pack is 1280kg, so weight difference is a bit greater than stated in the video. Great video though 👌🏻
@onehorsepower
@onehorsepower 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and they actually weigh in at those 1280kg too, contrary to many others. Real weight of that Evo is probably a good whack more then the 1360kg given, finding actually weighed numbers between 1400 to 1450kg. GR Yaris (not Yaris GR) ain't heavy at all.
@HashDogg06
@HashDogg06 2 жыл бұрын
@@onehorsepower Agreed, my 7 came in at over 1400kg (with a full tank of course) Also their torque numbers were off, should be around 400nm for the Evo. Would be interesting if it would shave some time with the same tires as the Yaris.
@anesennaidoo5279
@anesennaidoo5279 2 жыл бұрын
Love this comparison and the cars featured! Thank you
@FriendsOfTheRoad
@FriendsOfTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын
If you offered me either I don't know what would rake, I love the evo but would really like that yaris also. So I think I will just take both haha.
@BarbecuedPossum
@BarbecuedPossum 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison stock to stock - would've been interesting to see them on the same tyres and maybe some fresh brake fluid though! They really are a blast to drive both the evo's and the GR Yaris's. Only briefly tried a GRY but had an evo 5rs (race car), a 6 tme (stock) and a 7 (trackday car) and they've all been phenomenal. Can see in my latest track video at cadwell park from 20:00 mark to end a lightly modified evo is a good chunk faster, both cars not pushing 100% tho to be fair low boost for me and was super hot.. had been on track all day and did like 8 tanks of fuel 🤣 good to see a homoligation car on the market at a decent price again
@jmmeares
@jmmeares 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more... seems like the EVO was not "fighting fit" so to speak. Probably needed discs and pads too by the sounds of it. Our friend @Relentless Pursuit believes the GR would win regardless of the EVO's condition... everyone else is not so sure.
@S.Madman
@S.Madman 2 жыл бұрын
This EVO even in the FQ300, is not stock. Did you see the HKS intercooler in the front.
@BarbecuedPossum
@BarbecuedPossum 2 жыл бұрын
@@S.Madman The intercooler alone won't make any difference at that power level tbh. Mine is running standard intercooler at 440 whp on max boost and it's not the limiting factor
@richcadman1055
@richcadman1055 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but the music playing in the background at 25 seconds onwards is driving me nuts. What is it please anyone?
@Zerofightervi
@Zerofightervi 2 жыл бұрын
The Evo VII actually weighs 1400kg, so that power to weight figure is going to be off. The problem with comparisons like this is the Toyota is going to be a far fresher car & more than likely from the press fleet so it'll be well maintained. The Evo is far older & unless it's been treated to new tyres, brakes, suspension bushes & so on, it's never going to drive quite as well as it should. It's nice to see that the Evo is it's still around because a lot of them aren't in great condition these days. Especially rust.
@mengx94
@mengx94 2 жыл бұрын
And parts 😬
@Zerofightervi
@Zerofightervi 2 жыл бұрын
@@mengx94It's insane how much some parts are. A unused TME recaro seat was 4.5k
@dejan.
@dejan. Жыл бұрын
The GRY is also 1280kg, a lot more than 50kg lighter; which is amazing it’s for sale in the current market requirements.
@FL50ssp
@FL50ssp 8 ай бұрын
Where these cars on an equivalent TW tire and how old were the tires on the EVO?
@terencecall
@terencecall 2 жыл бұрын
How fun does that evo look🕺🏼🎉
@MrTempatel
@MrTempatel Жыл бұрын
How compact hatchback GR Yaris with 4 seats and 174L of boot space weights almost the same as 5 seater Evo 7 sedan with 400L of boot space? Considering they've got quite similar capability. What is that we've lost in those 20 years?
@RichardFanders
@RichardFanders 2 жыл бұрын
Who would have ever predicted an Evo VII would go head to head with a Yaris!
@ultricon5
@ultricon5 2 жыл бұрын
The Evo basecar ist only a Lancer econobox too.
@sunrisesunset1734
@sunrisesunset1734 2 жыл бұрын
And lose! Lol!
@solraczetined5951
@solraczetined5951 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunrisesunset1734 you probably feel proud on barely beating ur grandfather at a football game
@yanceyboyz
@yanceyboyz Жыл бұрын
Barely beating grandad......while only having 3 cylinders....
@sunrisesunset1734
@sunrisesunset1734 Жыл бұрын
@@yanceyboyz Like how the grandad Lexus LFa is still faster than anything you've ever driven? OK. /sarcasm
@IK47-d2l
@IK47-d2l 2 жыл бұрын
"They are epic, until the brakes fail" 🤣🤣 this made my day
@georgeoliver8300
@georgeoliver8300 2 жыл бұрын
the tires on the Evo looked like they where original from 2002
@Andy-2022
@Andy-2022 2 жыл бұрын
They won’t be, the old ones would have perished and cracked by now
@sonic_2565
@sonic_2565 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! We re looking forward for a similar shout out to the legendary EP3 Type R!!!! Keep going!!
@rasch19785
@rasch19785 2 жыл бұрын
Love my GR, but still miss the Evo sometimes
@gingerdude94
@gingerdude94 2 жыл бұрын
1 second progress in 20 years. Mind blowing
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
That's progress for you - Toyota for the win!
@yanceyboyz
@yanceyboyz Жыл бұрын
1 second faster with 1 cylinder less. You might also have forgotten the bit where it's a Yaris...... Also price....want to guess what 31,000 2002 pounds is today...? Over £50,000.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 Жыл бұрын
@@yanceyboyz it's also down on power by around 50bhp - yet it still beat the old Evo
@grabthecat
@grabthecat Жыл бұрын
​@@relentlesspursuit6894 Ask everyone ...they will take the EVO home 😂 Still ...20 years...1 second???😊
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 Жыл бұрын
@@grabthecat no, they would not!
@dwarfyh32
@dwarfyh32 2 жыл бұрын
The Yaris time is also 0.5sec quicker than the 420bhp 996 turbo time from the other week. Very impressive and just shows how handling has improved over the years
@damianlody
@damianlody 2 жыл бұрын
its will be interesting to put Michelin PS4s on the 996 turbo to be fair... Tires has also improved over the last decades.
@Johnson09641
@Johnson09641 2 жыл бұрын
@@damianlody then you remember the price difference..
@laynetravis
@laynetravis 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes long time to watch fifth gear!!JP is the man Btw the evo is really a legend
@stevesas632
@stevesas632 2 жыл бұрын
EVO for the win on looks, fun & special feeling.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a GR?
@Gryphus-R
@Gryphus-R 2 жыл бұрын
I have one GR Yaris with the circuit pack. One good thing (might be bad for some) is that it does not attract any attention. Other drivers ignore you, police ignores you, gold diggers ignore you. Until you drop a gear and slam the gas and you see BMW drivers wondering WTF just happened. And of course, when you get the attention, it's only from other car guys like you. As an owner, there are some minor things I do not like, but none related to the driving experience. For example, there are no parking sensors (only the camera) and with an ass as big as a Kardashian you need to be careful when parking. There is no light on the trunk (I installed some small battery powered lights) and some other minor things like that. But driving it is really fun and up to the hype
@SeanFlaherty
@SeanFlaherty 2 жыл бұрын
I'd still want the Evo, plus it's more practical.
@battlepug3122
@battlepug3122 2 жыл бұрын
Says the guy that owns a rotary.🤣
@SeanFlaherty
@SeanFlaherty 2 жыл бұрын
@@battlepug3122 My RX-8 drives like a sports car and seats 4 adults (for short trips) and has a big trunk, so it's "practical" also.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
"Practical" is not a word that should be used when talking about performance homologation cars 🙈
@freshjive818
@freshjive818 2 жыл бұрын
It's only more practical in boot space and has 5 doors everything else no
@marcusnilsson9344
@marcusnilsson9344 2 жыл бұрын
Did the Evo had new tires?
@konstantinosbeliacos4025
@konstantinosbeliacos4025 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite EVO and the 6 TM edition. Evo all the way compared to the Yaris.
@aldomandovani
@aldomandovani 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video Guyd Congrat on the 20 years!!! Btw as some one who experienced brake failure twice I wonder how is it even legal for Car Manufacturers these days to remove this crucial safety item!!!
@duffyt26
@duffyt26 2 жыл бұрын
Well the GR Yaris is the only car actually in this race due to one simple reason: You cannot get a Evo 3-4-5-6-7-8-9 that's not modified, crashed or ruined at all. Unless you pay Porsche money. Even if the GR is expensive for a small car at least it exists. And won't kill you quite so much in a car crash, hence the weight vs 90's cars. Still the lightest (new-ish) performance car out there aside from A110's and lotuses.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how modified this Evo was, saw the HKS intercooler and wondered what else had been done
@rotorhead5006
@rotorhead5006 2 жыл бұрын
@@relentlesspursuit6894 The Evo is also wearing Sonic The Hedgehog's hairdo (from the FQ400) above the rear window. That must shave many, many seconds per lap...!
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
@Rotorhead500 must do, wonder what engine work has been done in addition to the intercooler upgrade?
@tracktimevideos5164
@tracktimevideos5164 2 жыл бұрын
The GR Yaris is a total bargain for a modern car especially when it is a one off homologation special. The new CTR is £47k and fwd (🤣🤣) with very few fully bespoke parts like the GR which is almost a totally redesigned car....lol...ridiculous.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
@@tracktimevideos5164 totally agree with that
@boe-pedaltothemetal-4751
@boe-pedaltothemetal-4751 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👏🏼💣
@aaryeshg.6526
@aaryeshg.6526 2 жыл бұрын
I like how some people here are expecting both cars to have the SAME tyres and SAME suspension setup to see the difference between old and new cars. BUT the point is to see how almost everything has progressed in 20 years. Ofcourse the GR Yaris is better lmao. Also if you watch Tiff's old fifth gear video of the Evo 7, he said it had more brake fade than the WRX. Oofie.
@pursuitforspeed
@pursuitforspeed Жыл бұрын
People aren't complaining about brake fade, they're complaining about it having shagged brakes ie warped. What person would take their car to the track in a competitive setting and uses stuffed parts? "Heading to the track today to try and beat my PB. I've got plastic tyres and brakes that are warped like you wouldn't believe. Oh well, shouldn't matter, neither of those things are important". In other words. People don't want things to "be the same". They want the evo to be as close as it was to factory condition, not to be raced around a track with obviously degraded parts. Can't gauge progression if one car has degraded components and one doesn't - not accurately at least. It was flying lap of a short track to compare times - one lap to get things warm (like tyres etc) and one lap at full noise (the flying lap). On this particular track, I don't think brake fade would be an issue after one time attack lap.
@mrfrancy0154
@mrfrancy0154 2 жыл бұрын
What lap time did the Evo 20 years ago?
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
Worse, because it hadnt been modified like it has now
@dnlpark
@dnlpark 2 жыл бұрын
The tires seem to be the biggest determining factor here. Both cars should have had the same exact tire for this test.
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
Result would be the same
@jmmeares
@jmmeares 2 жыл бұрын
@@relentlesspursuit6894 that's impossible for you to know
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmmeares the GR is the quicker car, as proved in the test - that I do know!
@dnlpark
@dnlpark 2 жыл бұрын
@@relentlesspursuit6894 maybe it was quicker in the test because it has better tires from the "track package" it has.
@Andy-2022
@Andy-2022 2 жыл бұрын
Chances are the evo still has good modern tyres, any enthusiast isn’t going to put rubbish tyres on a performance car. Sounds like the evo has had some induction work as well
@Jinsun202
@Jinsun202 2 жыл бұрын
Love the comparison, just an excellent video. Giving graphics of the stats was really helpful. But I didn't realise torque was measured in nanometers these days 😜 ... capital N for Newtons 🤓
@gtojr7016
@gtojr7016 2 жыл бұрын
We need Tiff for some of that Clarkson-Hammond type banter !
@DoPeRiDe123
@DoPeRiDe123 2 жыл бұрын
Nah I’d rather just hear about the cars
@oambrosia
@oambrosia 2 жыл бұрын
Except Tiff is a better driver than either of them.
@baggyobeast
@baggyobeast 2 жыл бұрын
How can I see a full episode or is this the new format? I love this more than ever, people actually reviewcars that can bloody drive
@GRfourfun
@GRfourfun 2 жыл бұрын
If the Evo had better brakes, if the Evo had better tires, if the Evo was faster we’d all be slagging the GR off. Just appreciate the GR for what it is, a Yaris that beat an Evo.
@pursuitforspeed
@pursuitforspeed 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think people are necessarily saying it would make the Evo faster (than the GR Yaris) around this particular circuit. I think it's more from a comparison stand point. It is a pretty bad comparison; using a car with stuffed brakes and old tyres. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that really.
@yanceyboyz
@yanceyboyz Жыл бұрын
Watch the original review in 2002 by Tiff.....he was complaining about the Evo brakes after three laps, they were always rubbish.
@pursuitforspeed
@pursuitforspeed Жыл бұрын
@@yanceyboyz I have an evo, I don't need to watch a 20 year old review to tell me the stock brakes aren't that good. That doesn't mean its suitable to go to the track with already warped ones. I wouldn't. What sane, rational person would take any car to the track with already ruined brakes ?
@Ramevo
@Ramevo Жыл бұрын
You compare a old Evo 7 vs. a GR? Really? What about Evo 9 or Evo X? They are much faster!
@lkearney7299
@lkearney7299 2 жыл бұрын
For full balance in the test, I wonder if the EVO's suspension bushes, brakes etc. had recently been overhauled and has it been messed with over the years, like a hot air cone intake for example?
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it has an uprated intercooler and intake
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see Toyota back in the performance game
@zhila5958
@zhila5958 2 жыл бұрын
who doesn’t? Toyota makes good cars
@CrawleyATL
@CrawleyATL 2 жыл бұрын
great shootout ...I'm still buying an Evo IX FQ-320 when they are available for importing
@Lockyoriginal1
@Lockyoriginal1 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the Toyota Yaris has a standard 5 YEAR WARRANTY which if serviced at Toyota can be extended to 10 YEARS is amazing plus you won’t get any boiling brake fluid and the Evo Mitsubishi was well known for blowing engines - Yaris all day for me. Had one for a year and they are brilliant- definitely have another 👍
@morimetz
@morimetz 2 жыл бұрын
You had one and got rid of it?! I'm waiting for mine 1,5 years now, jeez.
@Ramevo
@Ramevo Жыл бұрын
Evo is better!
@septim_mart
@septim_mart 2 жыл бұрын
Plato loved that brake mishap
@potnoodleman81
@potnoodleman81 2 жыл бұрын
Considering its a 20+yr old car, Im sure its lost a few ponies under the hood by now
@no1pirates
@no1pirates 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what tyres are used on both cars?
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
On the GR it was the PS4S as per standard on the car
@robertgirdwood1801
@robertgirdwood1801 2 жыл бұрын
A sorted evo would cuff that Yaris 😅
@khamid1
@khamid1 2 жыл бұрын
All things relative and linear, no, it wouldn't. That's like saying give the evo a head start and it would win.
@robertgirdwood1801
@robertgirdwood1801 2 жыл бұрын
Brand new for brand new the Yaris gets smoked
@khamid1
@khamid1 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertgirdwood1801 nostalgia is a hell of a drug 😅
@benlotus2703
@benlotus2703 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 10/10 .
@battlepug3122
@battlepug3122 2 жыл бұрын
🤣all the butthurt evo fan bois coping in the comments here. 🤣🤣
@derlangsame7813
@derlangsame7813 2 жыл бұрын
But which would you rather have, a mint condition Evo or a new hatchback?
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
This will run and run 😄
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
@@derlangsame7813 The GR Yaris, all day, every day
@Andy-2022
@Andy-2022 2 жыл бұрын
I would take the Yaris as it has CarPlay 😂
@jmmeares
@jmmeares 2 жыл бұрын
Aesthetically, I prefer the GR as I've always preferred 2 doors... but I see where you are going with the question. EVO arguably has more street cred, a higher future value, and it's more practical.
@carwynthomas5836
@carwynthomas5836 2 жыл бұрын
Are those torque figures correct? The FQ300 evo 7 had 300 FTLB of torque which translates to 406nm….
@Swans_And_Ducks
@Swans_And_Ducks 2 жыл бұрын
EVO FTW
@battlepug3122
@battlepug3122 2 жыл бұрын
Except it didn't
@georgkeller8492
@georgkeller8492 Жыл бұрын
Wich tyres are used?
@bryanharvey001
@bryanharvey001 2 жыл бұрын
The Evo's body rolls too much, maybe a brand new and stiffer suspension would cut half a second. Fit better tyres like Michelin PS cup 2 then perhaps it has a chance to beat the GR Yaris. I think the evo loses a lot of time in the corners.
@galatar6
@galatar6 2 жыл бұрын
20 years old technology vs 2022 technology is not fear my friend.
@-Dash-
@-Dash- 2 жыл бұрын
Well at least its not electric I suppose...
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 2 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@ricchrono5907
@ricchrono5907 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@GAZZZA19790
@GAZZZA19790 2 жыл бұрын
Really keen on someone doing this test, but on gravel
@hassandurrani2313
@hassandurrani2313 2 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see if the Evo had the same tyre's how would it compare and also brake fluid change 😅
@grapsorz
@grapsorz 2 жыл бұрын
i gues you want the GRMN yaris for a trac run ;)
@janpruijser8649
@janpruijser8649 2 жыл бұрын
Are they running the same Rubber though?
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
No, but both have road tyres on
@jonnyyat2322
@jonnyyat2322 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the old school lag tbh, I have a GR Yaris CP and a Celica St205 GT4 and you cant beat the feeling of old school boost! the yaris is bloody quick down twisties though!
@weedaviec
@weedaviec 2 жыл бұрын
Some people argue Group B rally cars would be faster than modern WRC cars. This video and the Cossie Escort vs modern Fiesta ST one show that the progress of technology makes all the difference.
@beefen7921
@beefen7921 Жыл бұрын
This evo reminds me quite alot of my EVO 9 days... well, because it was from the very same chassis!.. ill always be a fan!!!
@hello.goodbye9828
@hello.goodbye9828 2 жыл бұрын
Always love fifth gear over top gear! 🙂🙏
@sidbobby3233
@sidbobby3233 2 жыл бұрын
If the big man is giggling uz know it's a top car. love Plato legend. 😎🇬🇧✌👍👊
@ian2183
@ian2183 2 жыл бұрын
These guys still filming with a Galaxy s2?
@dyslexiusmaximus
@dyslexiusmaximus 2 жыл бұрын
how much of this do you think is due to new tyre tec
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 2 жыл бұрын
None!
@markcherniy9059
@markcherniy9059 2 жыл бұрын
Top staff!!! Great to see
@ProfessorOzone
@ProfessorOzone Жыл бұрын
I don't really understand the "hot lap." I mean how fast were the two cars going at the start line? Shouldn't it have been a standing start?
@relentlesspursuit6894
@relentlesspursuit6894 Жыл бұрын
A standing start would of lead to a far bigger gap! Agree the flying lap start is flawed!
@tejzino1598
@tejzino1598 3 ай бұрын
Is that the grand tour test track
@danieljordannicol9937
@danieljordannicol9937 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@simonlarcombe1712
@simonlarcombe1712 2 жыл бұрын
Tyres?
@Blackfourtrak
@Blackfourtrak 2 жыл бұрын
I know which one I'd rather have, drive, own and want to be in, you just can't beat the looks of the evo series, give me an evo 6 any day, total dream car for me.
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