Moto Guzzi V85TT Gets Updates for 2021

For 2021, Moto Guzzi has updates it's mid weight adventure touring motorcycle, the V85TT.
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[@LongWayHome]

Why are you a fan of the V85TT?

[@my.motorrad]

A little too small. I wish they still had the stelvio.

[@TheTripleDubya]

Almost a great bike that looks good and I’ve heard it rides smoothly too.

[@MrTrek164]

It's actually a great bike and very individual ,I very nearly brought one but for 1 small thing ,that being I'm not the lightest person and neither my partner so I found it did struggle at motorway speeds especially if you wanted to overtake ,other than that I loved it but settled for a Yamaha niken gt instead .

[@TheTripleDubya]

@@MrTrek164 same here when it comes to my weight, the GSA handles the load well.

[@onanysundrymule3144]

I love it's simple old school gorgeousness.

[@peter4334]

Had this bike little over a year, way more fun than the GS I had. Quieter, less vibration, lighter. Great suspension and handling. Wonderful power delivery, cruise control and shaft drive. Really enjoying it for all types of riding. Been light off reading many times. For the money it gives great value. 3 drive modes.: Rain ( softer power delivery) Off_road) ( reduces traction control and turns off rear ABS ) Road (full ABS and traction control) Add in light clutch pull, Italian styling and v twin soul. Don't listen to conjecture and hyperbole , make your own choice.

[@ewooll]

Would you say it has more grunt than SV650/MT07 ?

[@peter4334]

@@ewooll ! wouldn't know, though i did put mine on a diet to the tune of 40 LBs and that added grunt due to the lower weight and better breathing from a new exhaust. Just feels like there is always enough power and more than enough when you grip it and rip. Can pull smoothly from 3rd gear in tight turns.

[@nicksmith7552]

Heated grips.....low, medium and high ?

[@sarahdell4042]

If it was 50lbs less it would be that “unicorn” bike. It’s pretty darn heavy for a “middleweight” Not to mention one that doesn’t have a cooling system..

[@FernitoAM]

I don't see this as an adv bike in terms of offroading but as a road tourer with panniers, shaft drive, tubeless tyres to travel around Europe sounds awesome

[@marcjohnson7734]

It's not a Paris Dakar or crusty demon but she can definitely go off road

[@mantarayal]

In the 80s (Wonderwoman remembers) I (Kiwi) bought a Guzzi V50II and rode it to work every day for a year (digging holes in London with a shovel for a pittance), all around England and Wales (froze my hands there in Wales and met some Welsh guy that abused me for some rugby match 20 years before...hands never been the same but wrapped in newspaper what would you expect)..then took my bike to Guzzi shop in London, fitted a carrier and strapped a second hand backpack onto it with bungy cords, bought a shit tent for $20 and took my Guzzi across Europe to Israel. And all around that land. Sold it there (tell no one) and used the money to travel to Kenya with the Danish girl I met on the kibbutz in Israel. So...just grow a pair guys. Figure out what an adventure bike means to you...or what an adventure means to you...and, if this BS virus lets you...just go and do it on any bloody bike you can afford. They'll all take you most places. Any and all of them. When my Danish girl and I got back to London we bought a Honda 250 road bike that had taken a couple to Greece and back. We put thousands of miles on it. And if dickheads on 1200 cc Beemers pass you on the way wish them good luck. Oops. Rambling. Love that Guzzi. They have soul. All of them.

[@vasilisdedes5100]

I couldn't agree more 👍👍👍

[@m-faccin]

Maybe because the factory is like 40 kms from my home town and almost all the bikers I know have put their butt on a Guzzi at least once in their life, but I totally love this bike and probably this year it's going to became part of the family.

[@rubberneck2855]

There's a dealer 20 minutes away from me that sells Moto Guzzi bikes. I always look at them, so pretty.

[@treacytribe]

Do you get them cheaper because your local/ in Italy/ cut out dealers etc ? Thanks

[@m-faccin]

@@treacytribe things have changed quite a lot since I wrote this comment so no bike in my garage. I have to say that yes, in Italy these bikes are cheaper but not by much: something like 500/1000€ compared the rest of Europe.

[@mikemcnevin1785]

I recently purchased a new 2022 V85TT Adventure in the yellow/white paint scheme. One of the smoothest, most fun motorcycles I have ridden in 50+ years of riding. Love it!

[@markmundy3435]

I love the looks of the V85TT, it's different and I like that. Just not sure I could do live with one and do that to myself.

[@niallleslie7419]

I've got the V85's big brother ( the Stelio ) and it is a very nice machine . If the V85 is actually 1/2 the bike that the Stelio is then it will be worth trying especially with the cruise control etc. Mine came with panniers, a 32 Liter tank, tubeless tires and a huge amount of torque as standard. Niall, Ontario, Canada.

[@horatio8764]

Me too. Love it

[@gwynnromano5881]

If they want to sell more machines in the USA, try putting together a real dealer network

[@playbytherootz4777]

Yup. I'd buy 1 if i could get service. But not ware iam

[@Surrlibrumm]

Best and most beautiful design of all so called "Advenure Bikes" .... by far !!!! That's maybe ... it's because I'm an old fart.

[@exiledscouser919]

Perfect Old Fart bike. Lots of presence, a “proper” bike, it’s all push rods and vibes. I love mine

[@rochmel1409]

Better an old Farr than a grey haired Michelin man on a stupidly oversized and over powerful motorcycle.🙂

[@niallmcmenamin7368]

Love the looks. Last name Wayne, first name Bruce colours for me.! I own a 1979 Guzzi and absolutely love those V-twins. Mountains of torque. When I first rode an air cooled GS I kept thinking it would be amazing if it had that Guzzi engine. And this in my mind is what Moto Guzzi have done. Albeit a bit smaller. Very keen to ride one when lockdown lifts but not sure I’d fork out for a new one... maybe wait a few years and pick up a used model.

[@SomeOne-qn2ti]

It looks kinda like the Dakar bikes of the late 80’s early 90’s which is awesome

[@onanysundrymule3144]

Yes that is exactly right, like the splendid offspring of a heavenly marriage between an XT500 and an early BMW Dakar rally machine.

[@williamrae9954]

"Nobody is going to be redlining the V85!" ha ha ha

[@gerboblitz]

An amazing bike to get much cheaper used after a few years!

[@travelinben1966]

Still a bargain for a bike this unique. I'd buy one.

[@BlackdogADV]

I think it’s a great looking bike but with all the competition out there I don’t see myself owning one. In this category I’d go for the Norden 991 or 890 adventure.

[@MrTench8]

Guzzi need to be told that to make a profit they have to actually sell some bikes, and lower prices would see them selling a lot more!

[@tedmarakas2626]

They will do better, lowering prices is not always the answer. They are selling a lot more bikes than before and this is because they came up with a few cool designs and upgrades. Moto Guzzi is a thing that you can understand only if you own one. As for the people complaining about them........there's always a choice from Japan.

[@marcjohnson7734]

Love my v85tt may up grade the wheels though

[@jps8941]

I own a Moto Guzzi V7iii and I love it I looked at their adventure bike price is right starting at 16 in my country. But Adventure bikes go anywhere but not a multi-use motorcycle. Like cruise nights and bike events.

[@jeremythomas6980]

That's a lot for new wheels Dave but still a fab bike

[@davidbodden8435]

Pleare note, it is not a transverse V twin . An engine alignment is based on the crank shaft NOT the cylinders .

[@jimpetrin804]

Getting a red one

[@robertakerson7186]

This is the only good-looking adventure motorcycle.

[@nasaruddinmohdali5665]

I m fall in love with this bike..

[@DraganBakema]

Jup..and the Himalayan..but yes.

[@alanottley]

Still a very nice looking bike!

[@MrAndrew1953]

Love that red & white paint 🎨 job. Dave anymore news reviews on the new Multi Strada or Panigales, just to keep in sweet with your prospective Italian in laws - Dave and Gina - has a nice ring 💍 to it. You’d better start looking for one.

[@2dollarbill650]

I was really hoping for new colors. I do like tubeless though.

[@AzTurboMini]

In coming off of a Multistrada and I need/want more power. If only the Stelvio looked this good!

[@thevtadventure1062]

Does look great especially the Marlboro red and white but slight lack of power, and the dealer network/ parts are harder to find if your not in a big city is definitely a no go for me.

[@raycollington4310]

I find the specification of this bike interesting (shaft & push rods etc). Shaft drives are great until they're not. I haven't ridden one of course and are nervous about Italian engineering reliability and customer support. It might be great, I just don't know. I love letting Italy feed and clothe me, I'm just a bit nervous about their wheels. I wouldn't want to discover that like the Italian WW2 tanks, they had gone overboard on reverse gears! Thanks Dave, still got your tax loss of a mate hanging on I see!

[@ampm9771]

:)) lame old story you heard from someone else.

[@raycollington4310]

@@ampm9771 Yup, I do read history books, I also made the mistake of owning an Italian car once. That said, I still like the look of this bike.

[@ampm9771]

@@raycollington4310 The problem with people who own Italian bikes/Cars is that they think them or someone who knows nothing more than japanese inline4 or toyotas can service/repair their bikes/cars for cheap. That's where all the problems begins. I have an Italian car that doesn't have intake cam, but an "expert" car mechanic was telling me that your car has a problem with intake cam. Not only that, they think that you can use some cheap oil and be ok. The problems starts when some nobody with greasy hands touches our motorcycle. Italian bikes/cars need special skills/experience that your average dealer/garage don't have.

[@ampm9771]

@@raycollington4310 PS Looks like some of the big brands didn't like teh fact that V85TT became an instant sale success. It's not a coincidence that dozens and dozens of GS owners, Tenere1200 owners are trading their overpriced piece of crap just to ride a bike that puts out only 80hp/80Nm. That speak volumes of how good this bike is.

[@dougfielding8215]

@@ampm9771 I don't care about horse power, give me torque! (Besides, 80 HP is more than enough). My Kawasaki W800 only has 52hp and it goes like hell when I twist the throttle (see Dino's Vault and his test ride of the W800 Street). It has lots of torque. I love the looks of this Guzzi, especially in the white and red. The dry clutch scares me a little. I have heard that with the dry clutch it needs to be adjusted more often and the friction point is different when the engine is cold compared to when it is hot (only what I've heard on the comment sections). I have had good experiences with push-rod engines like in Harleys. I also have a thing for air cooled bikes.

[@cpuuk]

Nice looking bike.

[@chriscurrie5597]

Not that much changed on the visual side, other than the black version, be interested to see how much guzzi want for a set of tubeless rims... If not stupid money may be worth keeping the mk1 and upgrading wheels, in a perfect world for me, they would make a black version of the tour,,

[@PLEASEMAKEANOTEOFIT]

Like you I can't keep my eyes off the bike and I'm hoping you'll get a test ride tell us more about those engine mods

[@trekkydelirium-vroom5821]

The V85TT is now much more interesting for tubeless lovers. It just need a lower front fender & a liquid cooled engine to be near perfect 👌🏼.

[@NothingToProve]

I have just ONE important question! When are we going to see "Dave"?

[@spiketheadventurefurry8732]

Where getting your motorcycle news is easer than getting Dave to take his monthly shower. But not by much.

[@ulihanel7078]

love your vids and your funny talk..tubles tires, great..but this beautiful bike is too heavy still.

[@mikedignum1868]

Always liked this bike and would seriously think of getting one if i wanted to downgrade from my 1250GS (it's heavy)

[@MrTrek164]

It's going to have to be discounted to become competitive and no tubless rims are not worth a grand more when you can convert the standard rims for a few pounds and a bit of time .

[@silotx]

It's cheaper in the EU at 11800euro so its a great package.

[@chrishart8548]

So it got the tubeless it should have had all along

[@jeremythomas6980]

Agreed

[@tedmarakas2626]

Yes, indeed. Better late than never.

[@MsDenver2]

If I wanted to put the wider header pipes on and the minstrel though pipe and silencer is it legal in uk please?

[@drewyager4020]

I think my 1250rs is getting sold to pick the Motto Guzzi up

[@brucegillham2801]

I do love this bike and tubeless tyres now is making it hard not to buy one. EXCEPT, I ride a lot in outback Australia and it is often in mid to high 50's celcius, therefore I am concerned about the "Air cooling". I know all my Harley's cant handle it and my G.S water cooled sometimes has issues. Something I really need to look at. However, I do still want the 2021 model.

[@giuliobuccini208]

I would like to buy a more offroad oriented version of the v85. With a single seat and a giant fuel tank.

[@peter4334]

its got a 6 gallon tank and 300 mile range, the longish travel suspension is great for moderate off roading and exploring. There's alot more potential in the bike if one removes all the heavy accoutrements. Rear rack is an anchor one could save 10 LBs with a lighter smaller one. Exhaust system and lithium battery can save you 20 LBs and increase power.

[@jamesdumas6602]

I like the looks of those Vee twin cylinders sticking out in front of your legs, but what about the HEAT on summer days? Nobody seems to mention it.

[@ianwatson3315]

I had more issues with heat from my ktm than my Guzzi..heat is not an issue on the Guzzi s to me and I live in dubai

[@vasilisdedes5100]

Surprisingly there are no heat issues 😊

[@alanseery4458]

Is there protection bar work available for the engine?

[@georgepsyverde6507]

Sure is. Both Guzzi and a few aftermarket brands. They work too. Already tested mine.

[@John-ev3cz]

I recently purchased a 2022, V85TT installed SW Motech crash bars; unfortunately I drop the bike at a stop sign and some damage to tank; I switched out to the Givi crash bars that offer the most protection. John

[@robkcra]

I know that it is purely subjective but I , as well, can’t stop looking at the thing. It’s very reminiscent of my first bike, the 1983 Honda CX650E, with the same engine configuration and shaft drive; love it!! BUT....as a novice in some respects, who has no experience in this regard, I am concerned as to the implications of a dry clutch. I saw a video of another model of Moto Guzzi having its clutch replaced and its engine had to be removed from the bike altogether. What’s that all about!!?

[@ampm9771]

CX was a cheap attempt by Honda to copy Moto guzzi.

[@wotid]

Long Way Home, where getting your news is easier than getting a perm, but not buy much.

[@ConsideringMyPosition]

I like the looks of this bike but I just don’t think worth the money. When I have Bruce Wayne’s money I will be sure to pick one up. This bike is almost $16000 in Canada.

[@tedmarakas2626]

We've got dementia "Brandon " here in the USA, the price will jump a few thousand I suppose. F@ck Biden.

[@wayneireland5896]

Love ya shit...say g'day to Dave for me😁

[@constantineco]

The black one must had red frame

[@noeldawson9211]

when will motoguzzi get off it's backside a produce a new griso? I would buy that but not the v85

[@noeldawson9211]

@Moto Guzzi I had the 2 valve Griso, the MGX was a huge mistake, the audaci was a mistake as well not so big a one, I understand what you have said but the second hand griso's go off like hot cakes here in Australia

[@noeldawson9211]

@Moto Guzzi believe me I have been looking for a 4 valve griso, they go off very quickly in Australia but I will get one

[@peanutbutter4829]

A dry clutch on any bike is useless.... Especially off road.....

[@Brisailer]

Is there a lot of heat off the engine cylinders near your knees.

[@markmcintosh7095]

No

[@vasilisdedes5100]

No, not noticeable!

[@tedmarakas2626]

NOPE !!! there isn't. I have a V9 bobber and just ordered a 2021 V85TT. There's practically no engine heat even in the hot days especially if you remove the catalytic converters which I always do on all my bikes.

[@zacharyfett2491]

I like this bike. I heard it runs hot? But man it looks darn sexy!

[@peter4334]

It doesn't run hot and the lack of water cooling is a blessing. It makes the bike much quieter and lighter.

[@AzTurboMini]

Quieter? How so?

[@simonthomas5367]

Looks waaaaaay better in this new black paint scheme. But a 10% price hike? Wtf?

[@williamrae9954]

Supply problems....container prices have shot up during Covid,filters down to the finished product!

[@mar0364]

You should branch out into other subjects. You’ve got a great delivery.

[@jeremythomas6980]

Dave

[@Proonur]

I couldn't buy this bike over the KTM 790 adventure or Yamaha T7. I think you get a lot more for the money from those bikes than this Moto Guzzi, despite the cool factor of the V85TT. However, there's going to be a 100th anniversary model of the V85TT coming later this year from what I hear and it looks very sharp. Can anyone comment on how to protect the engine if the bike tips over off road on rocks? I've seen BMW boxer engine valve covers get punctured in tip overs and there are many roll bars can valve cover protection strategies for the GS, but I've never seen on for the V85TT.

[@actstuntcam]

Very good question:) Does Guzzi have one in its accessories?

[@ed.barker7069]

Hepco and Becker do Engine crash bars which look as though they would protect the engine ok.

[@ampm9771]

Guzzi is not KTM, BMW or Yamaha crap. tip over your tenere and you'll have pamctured crank case. 790? failed clutch every now and then, plus it depreciates like a concrete block in water. BMW? I don't need to tell you how reliable it is, lets just say that lots of GS lovers are migrating to V85TT. Stop listening to paid youtubers ;)

[@actstuntcam]

@@ampm9771 Smash any crankcase into rocks and it is going to break - Unless those extra 10-15Kgs over the T7 and 790 have all been built into the V85s crankcases. ;P

[@ampm9771]

@@actstuntcam 15kg extra over tenere? you wanna know where it went? went into zero maintenance shaft drive and transmission, went to 24l fuel tank, went to sturdy air-cooled engine casing that is the stressed member, it went into a great and comfortable chassis, it went to tubeless wheels. And no, you're not gonna break any part of v85 if you drop it because its air-cooled engine is pretty mutch bullet proof. On he other hand, T7's crank case and clutch cover are just a little over 3mm thick aluminium that can easily break and render the already overpriced crap useless. You drop the T7 and you'll have bent chassis and most probably broken engine casing and oil all over the place unless you put protective rubber cover on it. Yamaha salesmen are laughing so hard for flogging an overpriced crap to their avid fans. And I'm not talking about KTM 790 as it doesn't need an introduction as the most unreliable and overpriced piece of junk out there. That's why it depreciates like a n skyscraper sinking in water. Yamaha would never have any problems selling their overpriced crap to their avid fans.

[@TheXaelem]

Nice bike but about 30% too expensive at the very least.

[@tedmarakas2626]

Not really but if money is tight there are a few good bikes from Japan. However, they aren't as stunning and full of character like the Moto Guzzi. I guess, it is worth a few extra dollars.

[@FaisalM91]

The problem with the V85TT, although it is a wonderful bike (I own one), the main issue is the gearing. It revs waaaaaaay too high for highway speeds. 120 km/h is something like 4500 RPM, while 140 km/h is around the 5300 RPM mark, from an engine that redlines at 8000 RPM, that's a lot. And because of that, it consumes a lot of oil.

[@smeghead61]

Umm What? so at redline it is doing 200? Based on your numbers, from an 850? How is that incorrect gearing? My 50 year old Moto Guzzi's sits at 4000 rpm at 100 Ks and consume no oil. So not sure your technical evaluation is sound.

[@zavlov]

I live in Florida and have never seen a Moto Guzzi in the wild... and I'm ok with that.

[@lucasm5889]

so what have you seen mate?? Harleys and Harleys? and maybe a few more Harleys? you are as boring as the place you call home...

[@zavlov]

@@lucasm5889 Mate?? ya I've seen Harleys and Harleys. Maybe to many Harleys. And I may be boring but the place I call home has Walt Disney World, SeaWorld, Busch Gardens, Universal Studios, Epcot,Sebring International Raceway, Daytona International Speedway, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins, Miami Marlins. Just to name a few things..Where I live is pretty fucking cool. Thank you for asking.

[@lucasm5889]

@@zavlov It is fine Robert, don't get too wind up... I am sure it is great there :-))) and surely Harleys are great as well... I owe a Moto Guzzi, a triumph and a bmw, next on the list is a Harley :-)

[@zavlov]

@@lucasm5889 NO! a Harley? Well Lucas I sold my Harley and bought a Honda. And sadly just sold my Yamaha. and if I went Italian it would be a Ducati.

[@lucasm5889]

@@zavlov why not? I like to try new bikes all the time (I obviously end up keeping the ones I really like), that was the thing in my first message, don't dismiss something just because you've not tried it :-) yes, now that you've got rid of your neighbour called trump I would like to buy some American goods... so Levi's and Harleys please :-))

[@richardvalitalo3670]

$1000 for 2 rims we could buy ourselves and relace for about same price? Short 2 rims! Such inflation!

[@UncleWally3]

The Moto Guzzi V8HPTS (Hard Pill To Swallow) may just be the right marketing spin to attract the chronically ironic.

[@evertlangebeeke7099]

When do they fit an 21" front wheel on the V85TT?

[@tolgahoca5549]

Some say MG v85tt is burning too much engine oil (0,3lt every 400 miles).

[@dennisveldt9989]

I got one and that's certainly not true for my bike!

[@tolgahoca5549]

@@dennisveldt9989 Well,good to hear that. I ve been focusing on this handsome piece of machine for a long time. I want to ask you few questions if you dont mind pal: 1. Is that gas tank plastic? 2. In the city center, Is it consuming more than 5 litres/100km? 3. Same guy says, engine guard bolts are unscrewing in time? 4. They say there is a vibration in low rpms? Thanks for your kind attention.

[@dennisveldt9989]

@@tolgahoca5549 1, yes 2. less 3. not that i know 4. oh yeah, thats the guzzi experience and the habits of a real v twin, i love it. No annoying vibrations! My advice: go for a testride and fall in love.

[@tolgahoca5549]

@@dennisveldt9989 Thank you man. In Turkey these machines are too expensive due to extreme government tax. I ll do my best to test ridenand see what happens.

[@tedmarakas2626]

@@dennisveldt9989 That's always a dangerous proposition. I rode a V9 and bought it. Now I have a V85 coming my way as well.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

I’ve been looking in the wild everywhere to find one and still haven’t. Why? No one really buys them... Great review! 👍😎🇦🇺

[@darylclifford]

Or maybe they just won’t sell them? Could be?

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@@darylclifford It was a bit of a joke, as Australia gets basically every make and model available. I have an actual Motto Guzzi dealership not that far away. 😊

[@colleenbuchanan8247]

plenty in New Zealand , but yhey are usually ahead of Aussie.

[@thejohnnerparty]

Those are pretty expensive tubeless tires. That price point is getting iffy in my book.

[@radulescuandrei6178]

eu am crezut ca e mai scumpa din cauza E5-ului...

[@darylclifford]

There’s one in my apartment complex. I’m gonna slash the tires, make a lowball offer on it and hope the owner will consider buying a 2021 model.

[@tedmarakas2626]

Evil thought but I understand your motive and desire to own one.

[@STIjojoSTI]

Looks really good. But this brand reminds me of harley davidson. Old technology in a modern bike. Performance wise it cannot compete with its competitors. Its more of a show bike. But I really like the looks of it.

[@colleenbuchanan8247]

on paper maybe ??? Go and ride it for an hour or so and you might change your mind like i did.

[@ampm9771]

Old technology? what is new technology in your mind? I am guessing by modern you mean Japanese bikes, right? New technology like the outdated cable throttle on all Japanese bikes? or the sub par brakes of Japanese bikes? or nonexistent electronics of them? or perhaps their 1970s chassis and 1960s engine? which Japanes bike has titanium valves? which aircooled japanese bike can 0ut out 80hp? Tenere 700's 700cc watercooled engine can hardly put out 74hp. Or the traction control on japanese bikes that almost never work. You know what is really modern? having separate gearbox and engine oil. Having a dry clutch can last the lifetime of the owner. being able to service the bike in 1/4 of the time other bikes require. What else? having the engine as the stressed member. V85TT is more modern that all Japanese bikes put together including Honda's latest and greatest.

[@STIjojoSTI]

@@ampm9771 Old technology compared to its competitors. Compared to the bmw gs, triumph tigers and the ducati multistradas they look old tech and oldschool in comparison. I like the way it looks. It just reminds me of a Harley, trailing its rivals in technology. By the way, I also have a harley and like it alot.

[@ampm9771]

@@STIjojoSTI Still, you haven't answered which part of V85TT is old technology? the looks of it? or there is a part of it you consider old? First you have to define what old technology is. If anything, BMW is using the most outdated and impractical design that is boxer. Ducati is still using it's 1970s valve technology, triumph is using 1930s spring valve technology. I am really curious to know what part of it is old technology. You know what is old technology? Triumph's 900cc watercooled tripple putting out only 95hp. By the same merit That's too old, and V85 putting out 80hp out of an true aircooled 850cc twin is way modern by comparison. I am sorry to say, but most people have no clue what's modern what's old.

[@justsomedude445]

@@STIjojoSTI i agree ..... air cooling for starters

[@vageliskoios1062]

Nice bike but expensive..Should be 20% cheaper..

[@shaneconnor5701]

Why such negative waves....always misery....think ill skip next time.

[@philipmannino6689]

Do water cooled motors get hot in traffic

[@colleenbuchanan8247]

yes

[@dougfielding8215]

Philip Manning. Yes, It is the blow back from the radiator or the radiator fan that I find makes the rider hot. I have found air cooled bikes make me less heated in traffic.

[@justsomedude445]

some

[@tedmarakas2626]

Air cooled engines don't radiate as much heat as the water-cooled. Water cooled engines make more power and easy to pass emissions but the air cooled engines are simple and easy to work on. Less shit to break.

[@At-ht2xp]

Looks good, to expensive..

[@At-ht2xp]

@Moto Guzzi Can't buy a yomama where I'm from, must only sell them where ever you are.. :-)

[@At-ht2xp]

@Moto Guzzi Me to bro, I'm stuck in 3 sq. miles. I just checked prices in UK for moto guzzi, £11400 for the 850tt centenario, which is actually not bad. It look's great in that colour scheme.

[@johndavis-tn3il]

I find such dubious advances promising, in that someone may like the new features so much that they let a previous model go for what I can afford.

[@muzzamoose]

$1000 more for little benefit.Forget it

[@madeywadankisomalia774]

hauw much mony

[@actstuntcam]

I love the looks - It is so pretty. However, it is wayyyyyyyy too expensive. I would want twice the horsepower and half the weight for those $s. (and still wouldn't but one at those prices. The T7 is the only reasonably priced ADV out at the moment.) And now it is even more expensive... so no thanks MotoGuzzi. Love all the colours though.

[@ampm9771]

Expensive? it's a quality machine. You know what's expensive? crap like tenere 700 which is under 2k cheaper. What does T7 offer for 2k less? CRAP!

[@actstuntcam]

@@ampm9771 Agreed the Guzzi definitely looks like a quality ride. It is definitely my favorite looking ADV by a mile. Maybe the price difference is less in Europe (or you have lots of money and $2000 euro doesn't mean anything to you). In New Zealand the T7 is $17,000 and the Guzzi is $22,000 (Let's say the new price is more for the 2021 model. Perhaps - $23,500nz. That is somewhere between $5000 - $6500 cheaper for the T7. That is a LOT of coin. Don't get me wrong if the Guzzi was 10kg lighter and had a cable-operated throttle, and no-rider modes and no traction control, I'd definitely consider one. If I had $23,000 going spare.

[@ampm9771]

Twice the power and half the weight? wait... since when tenere 700 weighs 100kg amd puts out 160hp? man you are kidding, right? There is no Japanese bike that can best it at what ot is capable of and at the price. V85tt is in comparison to T7 is the bargain of century. tenere 700 is the most overpriced piece of junk out there. Yamaha is laughing how they fooled the average consumer. 😅

[@actstuntcam]

@@ampm9771 TROLL

[@ampm9771]

Looks like i have upset some T7 lovers by saying what overpriced piece of crap it is😅

[@jsprite123]

For much better stability, those Guzzi's twin cylinders should point down, not up.

[@dougfielding8215]

@jspite123. If the cylinders pointed downward, there wouldn't be sufficient lean angle for spirited cornering.

[@terrencegreen9560]

Top heavy like most of its riders

[@davidbesant]

I really wanted one of these. I thought it looked beautiful. And with the luggage pack and shaft drive, it was practical too. Then I rode it. What a disappointment. The engine doesn't vibrate, the whole bike does! The suspension is awful. In fact all the problems mentioned by testers, were not just true, but actually worse. I last rode a Guzzi in the 80s and it was better. Such a shame.

[@colleenbuchanan8247]

Are you sure you were on the right bike??? I allso rode one an couldnt agree less.

[@justsomedude445]

Perspective & expectations