Moto Gymkhana Techniques Level 1: #7 How to Slow

[@shaspaz]

Thank u for admitting fear of lean , love your artistic expression of these concepts 🙏

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Thanks for your kind words. I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos. ❤️

[@komentattor]

hi, thanks for great tips. One addition: important additional reason why motorcycle slows down while leaned in turn is friction.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

That is correct. I made another video a while back discussing this topic further. I hope you enjoy it. Here is a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIjbXmSDpdiUlZo

[@hunczar]

Just getting into this now, in NJ and there’s no events nor resources here . . . THIS IS GREAT! Thanks for doing all these. Used to do autos and there are some similarities that are helpful, SOME, and you cover so much good stuff.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

I'm glad the videos have been helpful. I appreciate you checking out the videos :)

[@kenahnemann8343]

You figured out all this stuff in two years of riding!!??? Amazing. I’ve been riding a bit more than three years and am finally feeling pretty confident thanks to videos lime yours. Thanks for the clear explanations you proved. I’ve learned a lot.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

You're welcome, Ken. I've now been riding for 4 years as of today and I am definitely still learning new stuff all the time. Can't wait to share some new stuff with you all very soon. Thanks for watching! :)

[@GiorgiBekurashvili]

Thank you man! I'm watching all your videos about moto gymkhana, and i think its the best way to ride safe on the roads!

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Thanks for watching. I'm happy to hear that the videos are helpful for you. I am trying to make more lessons but I've been so busy that it has not been possible. I hope to post new material soon. Thank you for your comment :)

[@daydreamzstudios]

This is amazing. I am a new rider, watching a lot of videos for low speed maneuvers, but this one was really important. I want to learn Moto Gymkhana maneuvers, because I think, it increases the confidence and feeling for security a lot. This video was well explained. I have two questions: 1. Is Moto Gymkhana possible with a scooter (Honda Forza 125cc), because of its variomatic? 2. If we talk about low speed (for a beginner), which speed is meant? I felt safe at 10-13 km/h for u-turns.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Yes. You can ride gymkhana on pretty much anything but there are lean angle limitations with certain motorcycles and scooters. Check this video out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emHaYXl_j6eFr80si=KC-05Ql1HjXnTjk1 Tight turns in gymkhana are a little faster than what you would do out on the streets. I did a video very early on about this topic on my channel. There is a playlist with introductory information about gymkhana. You should watch it especially a video called “What Moto Gymkhana is NOT!” Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further questions :)

[@Gottzilla47]

i'm puzzeled how these videos ain't got millions of views yet.

[@prax77]

Cause they don't show him riding

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Thanks for your comment. I really appreciate it. Thanks for watching :)

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

I am a bit confused by your post because I have posted many videos of me riding on this channel. I have a whole playlist of me riding at M-Gymkhana events here in SoCal. Here is a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYmUg2uhmrp8pZI

[@yomontomoto7461]

You the man! Imma try one finger on the front brake as well. Cause im stomping on that rear and its not doing the job.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Let me know how it goes :)

[@devamoria]

Hi, thanx for the video. But Im getting confused now because in video of Mr Kintaro he explains that when the motorcycle lean more it becames quicker on the example of lounched tyre. Also we can se the same phenomenon on the coin movement. 🤔

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Hello and thanks for the question. When this video was first posted, I received lots of comments and questions about this. Some comments were a little combative, lol. So I ended up making another video explaining this dynamic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIjbXmSDpdiUlZo I hope that video helps. I wish I could have a conversation about this with Mr. Yoshida from the Kintaro videos to ask for clarification. My guess and opinion is that when he says that the bike goes quicker around the turn the more you lean, he's talking about the amount of time it takes to go around the curve, but not faster as far as speed (mph/kph), per se. The more you lean the bike, the tighter the radius of the curve which means you are reducing the distance you must travel. So you DO make it through the curve more quickly...but it doesn't increase your actual speed. I hope my response along with the other video that I linked answers your question. Thanks for watching ;)

[@devamoria]

@@LexcoMotoGymkhana yes, it has a sense for me. Thanks a lot for the exhaustive explanation based on research.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Thanks, my amigo :)

[@mogy8179]

is relying on engine braking not counterintuitive when we raise the idle ? isn´t it part of advanced MotoGymkhana to raise idle for more smoothness and less enginebreaking? also ... i think the effect of leaning in to slowing down is very very small.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Thanks for the questions! I agree with you 100% as far as leaning the bike. The slowing effects are minimal and really, I wanted to include that information just so that new riders are aware of that dynamic. My videos are mostly aimed at beginner and intermediate riders and it will be helpful for those people to know this information later on when I begin to address maintenance throttle. As far as the other question, the answer will depend on what style of gymkhana you ride because there are more than one style. A few riders in Japan and many in Europe prefer to have a very high idle rate and allow the motorcycle to propel them forward quickly when they let out the clutch. Other riders, such as I and Clement from France, do not ride this style. We do not use high idle rates and prefer to control the rpm's manually with the throttle. I raise my idle rate slightly to about 2000 rpm but this is because I want to smooth out the on/off throttle transition and not because I want the motorcycle to drive me forward automatically. The style I use is a more difficult style to learn but it is the style that I prefer because I feel that it refines throttle control better than the other style...but that's just my personal preference. As far as I can tell, the high rpm style seems to work very well with powerful super sport bikes that use 4 cylinders and have a very high powerband so they need to be kept at high rpm. I've seen idle rates set up to 6000 rpm with those bikes. I will say, however, that the more advanced a rider becomes in the style I use, the less they will rely on engine braking and the earlier they will add maintenance throttle as they become accustomed to higher speeds and lean angles. I'm planning to address this in later videos in Level 3 but engine braking is a very easy way for a beginner to learn the movements and flow of gymkhana before they get into advanced throttle control and braking. It's essentially just the way I teach newer riders. I hope this sheds some light on my perspective. Thanks again for the comment :)

[@filiptrifunovic7763]

@@LexcoMotoGymkhana Mate thank u for ur videos and comments! I wanted to ask, do people who ride Gymkhana on a sport bike(i got R6 2001) raise the handlebar for more upright position, and do they change them in any other way(thinking in terms like not to be in V position)?

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

@@filiptrifunovic7763 You're welcome! And yes, many sport bike riders (including myself) do handlebar conversions. This helps us to sit more upright which allows us to change the handling of the bike. Also, the handlebar is wider than clip-ons, so you have more leverage for turning the bars. I rode with clip-ons for a while and when I changed to handlebars, it was a big difference. Way better :)

[@alexebenoit]

Thanks buddy

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Thank you for watching :)

[@alexebenoit]

Make a level 3 pleeeeease

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

That should be out fall of this year. I'm currently working on translating all my videos into Spanish subtitles. I just have 5 more videos left to translate as of today. This summer though...a whole series on just gymkhana modifications. Stay tuned later this month for an update video on my new gymkhana bike. Took me 6 months to finish modifying it ;) Thanks for the comment.

[@alexebenoit]

@@LexcoMotoGymkhana that's nice! See you soon

[@jdp1219]

In a previous video you said the clutch isn't involved but now you mention engine braking. So clutch is involved?

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Very good question! I think the confusion is in the semantics. When I use the term "Engine Braking", I am referring to the negative torque or lurching that we experience and feel when we roll off the throttle completely. Some bikes have more engine braking than others due to differences in compression. I think that when you are using the term, I think that you are using it a little more specifically than I am. I think you interpret engine braking as when we disengage the clutch when slowing and then use the friction zone to slowly add engine braking with the clutch to assist with the slowing. I think I use the term as a noun and you use the term as more of a verb. I think that both interpretations of the term are accurate. So to recap once again: Engine Braking (noun): The negative torque force we feel when we close the throttle completely. Engine Braking (verb): to brake with the engine's negative torque compression by slipping the clutch gradually. To get a better idea of how I use engine braking, check out a video in my Level 2 series called "Use the Force". I explain how I use the throttle to assist with the flip-flop. Even though I don't specifically go in depth about engine braking in that video, I think it will give you a better idea of what I am talking about when I say I use some engine braking to slow. Thanks for the question, Mr. Patel :)

[@jered2177]

Nice zx14

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

My favorite desk decoration :)

[@blipco5]

Using a brake fluid (NON silicone) with a high boiling point will help with a hot caliper. There is a difference between brands.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

True. I have recently switched from a normal brake fluid to now using Motul 660 fluid. I think that my technique improvements have been more important than the fluid change but anything I can do to keep my brake fluid from overheating is worth trying, IMO.

[@hunczar]

Hot caliper will not be helped by fluid b/c the caliper is touching the rotor. Better fluid helps w/ braking consistency. Better pads do help a lot though with overheated and soft pads…high performance pads are good for that, but do come with the negative of needing to be warmed up, so be careful using them on the road (e.g., long highway stretch and then quick braking will not have great bite).

[@gksalf10]

Strictly speaking, increase in lean angle results in increased rpm, not direct slowing of the whole bike. Leaning the bike is therefore one of the way of engine braking(number 3), rather than separate method of slowing down. Just for the sake of argument... kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4Gocnd3lMRoq80 This video explains the phenomenon as well.

[@LexcoMotoGymkhana]

Thanks for the comment. I already made a separate video addressing this topic because I received other questions regarding this. Make sure to check it out. There’s actually a link in this video to that other video.

[@gksalf10]

Lexco Moto Gymkhana Oh sorry didnt see the link!