Rolls Royce Spectre: Forget that it’s electric!

[@aurorajones8481]

5 Hours to fully charge. WOW... What a beast.

[@HenrikMadsen_]

Did you say 2.8 tons? Holy cow, no, thats actually two holy cows and a small calf , including a bag of carrots, big bag ( Yea im a country boy )

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

😀 good one!

[@Nemoticon]

That's almost 6 horses!!!

[@BenWayne85]

EASILY the best car reviewer/auto journalist on KZbin. There’s not even a close 2nd.

[@MotoManTV]

WOW - Appreciate the kind words, Ben!

[@BenWayne85]

@@MotoManTVI agree with your statement on the algorithm, it’s totally destroyed my car review channel making it nearly impossible to test cars like these.

[@jays9211]

I agree completely!!!! I’m just stunned that the channel has hovered about 250k subscribers with any noticeable increase over a number of recent years?

[@corpnupe85]

@@jays9211should have more.

[@lecturer28]

Lovely - glad you've been able to spend time in this. Suits you Sir... 🙂

[@axeman3d]

You have to think that electric is the perfect fit for Rolls Royce cars. Silent, powerful, clean and all the torque. Nice looking car too, unlike some of the recent ones.

Best review up to date! Honest and utmost professional! 😊

[@ErnestDuran-tx9lr]

Thank you for another magnificent video 🙏

[@carycoller3140]

Right now I'm at the 2024 Chicago International Auto Show for the 2-day press event. I'm shooting reviews for the Vehicle Visionary KZbin channel. While walking the floor this morning I saw MotoMan, in his customary plaid buttondown shirt, and I stopped him, introduced myself and asked him to take a picture with me. This guy was SO gracious and polite to me and took the picture, even though I was interrupting him. He's a gentleman. Thanks for the picture MotoMan 🙂👍. I'm watching the Spectre video, just like I told you 😂.

[@MotoManTV]

Sir! An absolute pleasure to meet you. Thank you for your service to the people of Louisiana!

[@carycoller3140]

@MotoManTV Thank you Sir. My pleasure.

[@MrAlpinab7]

Wraith anytime of the day night - DAWN ? get it ? yeah, dawn is on a whole new level

[@bob808]

No 'gas guzzler' tax, but does it have a _kilowatt killer_ tax instead? LOL It's a fantastic machine, and I can't wait to see one in person. Also, I've seen a few reviews on the Spectre, and you're the *only* person to acknowledge the 102EX (without mentioning it). Glad to see someone who knows what they are talking about!

[@MotoManTV]

We cover that one a bit more in the coming second episode.

[@jonathankenton2502]

Great review as always. Also your responses to critics in the comments opposing your view on these EV mandates were refreshingly wise and insightful. All the best!

[@cameraman915]

It looks as though they have raised the belt line/dash height to the detriment of visibility. Great review. You really drill down into the details.

[@MotoManTV]

Yes, you definitely feel a higher belt line and difference in proportions. That was key point of my 'you wear this car' line.

[@carlosmontejo8187]

I am a longtime subscriber who appreciates your videos, and never skips the ads. Particularly because your experience, opinions, video quality and vocabulary are more elevated that most car reviewers on this platform. I have only one ask of you that will enhance your audience enjoyment. 1) I think you have overused the word 'pedantic,' so, please find a substitute word; and 2) please don't call KZbin's algorithm a 'bi@#h, as it diminishes your gentlemanly gravitas. My suggestion is solitary, so of course you are free to continue bashing the platform and not make any changes.

[@MotoManTV]

Appreciate the honest feedback.

[@Sevenfeet0]

I would argue that one of the whole points of owning a Rolls is being enveloped in a tomb like silence. After all, who else names their cars things like Phantom, Wraith, Spectre and Ghost? For over a century, Rolls-Royce has been doing everything to build a powerful engine that you didn't really hear. So now without internal combustion, you've distilled the whole experience down to that silence. Also, I can't see most owners taking these on extra long road trips. Oh I guess they might but Rolls owners own SEVERAL vehicles that just might be better for going to the estate in the mountains than the daily driver they use to impress the folks at the country club. So while the fast charging isn't state of the art. most of the time its probably going to be charged at home, like most EV owners do.

[@MotoManTV]

Happy New Year, Rick! Spot on analysis!

[@IceDree]

Love loooove the wood, the rest of the car? Eh not so much. Speaking of IWC, love the Big Pilot, M. Excellent work like always.

[@felipe7112]

intersting approach

[@aurorajones8481]

0:56 Hey look at that. A CLOCK! *gives Lexus an evil look for the LC500 being STRICKEN from the clock* 😤

[@aurorajones8481]

Stink eye...crook eye, EVIL eye...

[@Rodo1586]

Another great video and first for this vehicle comparing it to the ICE cousin. Job well done!

[@MotoManTV]

My pleasure!

[@ErnestDuran-tx9lr]

Well they kept the clock ⏰⏰⏰⏰ ot is one of the best features and the letter on each High Heels 👠👠 that will never turned no matter what....

[@JaviM22]

One can tell they tried hard with the design to bring something "new" yet RR in the core siluette. I think it will sell but mostly as a car to take on short journeys and maybe that´s ok and it´s the way RR cars are driven nowadays. It just makes you think on how much money people are ready to spend on vehicles they can´t use in all types of trips or maybe is just me and my rants. Still, BMW quality today is off the charts so it will be a great and pleasing experience for the buyers. Nice video MM and the best and most unique bit of this video about RR.... is MM´s red shoe laces. :)

[@MotoManTV]

HA . . . thanks for noticing, Javi! Had to pull out the real shoes for this one:)

[@aurorajones8481]

12:00 Im going to go off on a mechanical rant here. The clock first of all well done. We love that. I hate lexus taking it away from the LC. BOO. The guages! WHY do these luxury automakers gloss over this missed opportunity. I hate these plastic crap screens all over cars. And RR, Bentley owners don't either which is why they cover it up w/ the door. So why do they think putting a screen for the gauge cluster is acceptable. Insult to injury its made to look mechanical. WTH. Go to a world renound clock maker and have them craft you a beautifully stunning gauge cluster i can find joy looking at each time i get in the car. I hate screens! They go bad, they delaminate, depixalate. Remove them!

[@MotoManTV]

Have to agree about the gauges. The same 'wish list' item I always discuss in my Maybach episodes applies here - but double: At least the OPTION for a real gauge package. It can be expensive. Whatever the cost, I guarantee it will be a 100% take rate option.

[@aurorajones8481]

16:36 BOOOOOOOOO Lets come back to this in 2030. Because i doubt that's true. GM and other automakers have gone from full EV back to investing in ICE because they know its not the future in time. These things have a long ways to go. Its not that we cant build them now. Obviously this is a testimate but we cannot convert the fleet over like everyone wants while providing power. Its an impossibility when you look at global supplies. Anyone play Anno? Its like that. Do you have the mines? No you don't In this case of reality a mine takes 5-10 years to get up to production and we are missing by my account 30 mines for the material needed to do whatsw wanted. Thus statements like this are most likely for shareholders only.

[@corpnupe85]

Nice hpcrib!

[@TYAC_red]

Tire companies happy

[@aurorajones8481]

Im not a BEV fan even tho i was a first EV adopert w/ the Leaf and focus EV. The class needs to compete on its own not be propped up by gov and tax payer incentives given the horrendous draw it is for hard to find resources we don't have mines for. Meanwhile I see news of charging networks around the globe now being on the decline. Why? Because no on is making money w/ them. So now you have a shrinking charging network, more of these hungry things coming on the grid drawing your limited power in select parts of the country. What a joke. BEV needs to stand alone. End of story. Win on your own accord. Not because we gave a cripple a one wheel to compete in a sprint. HOWEVER that said i do like this. I don't hate all BEV's this looks to be well executed and of course why wouldn't it. Its RR.

[@PeterDavidLauwers]

Really like your channel

[@MotoManTV]

Thank you and welcome to the channel, Peter!

[@nicholasmesick4020]

Nice iwc chrono

[@MotoManTV]

Thank you!

[@wfigueroa1]

And I say it again, if it had a V12 it would still be the "it car" for Rolls Royce. The one percent just one to be the first of having something new from Rolls Royce.

[@GammaPanda]

I have to disagree about the comment of the EV noises being gimmicky and stupid. In my opinion, it's no different than exhaust noises being tuned to sound a certain way. It's not for everyone's ear, but it is helping create a signature sound to engage more of your senses with the car. Just my two cents.

[@MotoManTV]

While we may not agree, I can certainly appreciate the opinion.

[@MrAlpinab7]

The all new Spectre : Now equipped with a washing machine under the hood ! Should have had a V16 underneath Goddammit !

[@aurorajones8481]

No sir its EV only now for the rest of your life. Get in this souless driving appliance and be happy!

[@aurorajones8481]

SMILE DAMMIT!

[@JamesM-hb2cj]

Personally I think the whole gas vs EV argument is silly. Both have their purpose and pros and cons, I wish the EV fanboys would understand why EVs don't make good sports cars, and I wish ICE fans would acknowledge the obvious benefits of EVs when it comes to daily drivers. I say this as an enthusiast myself, I've owned several manual transmission sports cars including my current c7 Vette. And I'm telling you, when it comes to daily drivers, a well-executed EV is simply better. We have a Jaguar I-PACE EV as our daily driver. This replaced our 970 Panamera Turbo (both of which we bought used btw), a car that most ICE fans would probably agree is a pretty good daily driver in its own right. And I can honestly say the Jag is better in every single way. I don’t miss the Panamera one bit, neither does the wife. With the Jag, there’s no automatic transmission to get confused around town, never getting into a hot or cold car with preconditioning, there’s insane instant torque, the smoothness and refinement is unmatched (not only because no engine noise but also because the 1000 pound battery insulates you from road noise), the use of space is excellent (small on the outside and big on the inside because no engine), low center of gravity, naturally perfect weight distribution, being able to blow by anyone in traffic anytime, never being in the wrong gear, way more efficient, never being late because I had to stop for gas, no maintenance, quicker than most v8 family cars and more efficient than i-4 family cars, etc etc. And even though on paper the panamera was faster 0-60, in real life around town it’s not even close - the Jag would be gone before the panamera would even get into the right gear. Yes, it can be annoying on road trips - but it's not the end of the world unless you road trip all the time. It's the better car 364 days of the year, and the worse car 1 day of the year. Having said all of that, like I said I'm an enthusiast, and we also have two sports cars (manual transmission c7 corvette stingray and an R56 Mini Cooper JCW, both of which I frequently use for road rallys and autocross), and I have no desire for either of those to be electric. The whole point of those cars is a visceral, loud, lightweight, connected experience with a manual transmission. I know there is a Boxster EV coming soon and I’m sure it’ll be great and smoke my c7 around any racetrack, but I have no interest at all, even as a current EV owner. Sports cars should be gas powered and manual IMO. So as I said, each has their purpose. I don’t see myself ever going back to gas for daily driver, and I don’t see myself ever going EV for sports cars. My point is simple: EVs are better at some things, and gas cars are better at some things. "Taking a side" doesn't make sense, even for enthusiasts. Just acknowledge what the other is better at. EVs dont work for everyone (you need a place to charge and can't road trip all the time etc etc), but if it works in your lifestyle - try it before you knock it is all I'm saying. You might be surprised. And like I said - just because a car is EV doesn't make it good. There are good EVs and bad ones, just like gas cars. For example, I' not a huge Tesla fan. But, the well-executed EVs are, in my opinion, the best daily drivers, if they fit into your lifestyle. ...and this is coming from someone that's currently on his 8th manual transmission sports car (Vette, Mini JCW, 350Z, etc etc). And to be clear - these are my favorite cars, not the I-PACE. But, I have a wife and a kid, and we need something that isn't manual and has a back seat. And in that category, the Jag is by far and away the best we've had.

[@relaxationstation7374]

If the battery tech or even solar tech can safely advance then, Rolls Royce can safely stay on their electronic course.

[@jrossi9250]

perfect for Geraldo Rivera..

[@patrickaguidissou666]

IWC watch?

[@stanlee3619]

He told me last video when I asked, that it's an IWC Pilot 41 with a Goodwood Green dial.

[@TYAC_red]

Without the algorithm, I would never know you, either.

[@katisop5991]

The 500k spec was necessary for matching that shirt.

[@JohnPMiller]

A British car that comes with umbrellas? Yes, that makes sense.

[@SamKuul]

I am wondering if that umbrella still works when the own is having mentally a rainy day. If it does now that’s luxury.

[@vsboy2577]

Cars like this are for people with so much money they truly don’t care what things cost.

[@TheDestineyy]

Lol duh

[@gregorygant4242]

Looks spectacular inside out but 500 grand ain't cheap ! I have to sell one of my kidneys to get one of these babies!

[@TheDestineyy]

Kidneys are only like 50k. If they were 500k you’d be hearing about people getting kidnapped and trafficked all the time

[@tamasszabo8824]

RR should have named this motorcar the Silver Yawn. Put a V16 in it and call it a day.

[@TreDogOfficial]

How much does it cost?

[@cbotten106]

$524,000 with options 💰💰💰

[@eddstarr2185]

MotoMan, where to begin. Rolls Royce could easily electrify the Phantom, and receive applause from their clientele. But Rolls made the Spectre an enormous 2-door fastback. I maintain that an electric car doesn't have to be "special" - just be a good car. Why is the Spectre sooo expensive? For all the money, the Spectre is Not ugly, but it's not the beautiful Rolls that price tag suggests. The Phantom is the Rolls Royce that makes sense to me. The Spectre makes no sense , even if it had a V12 option available. I now have a new appreciation for the Wraith!

[@MotoManTV]

You kind of answered your own question: The Phantom is the 'bread and butter' Rolls Royce. The one they can't afford to alienate their clientele on. That is why they are 'testing' a different propulsion system first on a totally separate car not core to the business of Rolls Royce.

[@eddstarr2185]

Understood. Rolls Royce operates at an altitude I will never reach, and R-R know their customers thoroughly. I still find it telling when a manufacturer that's already admitted their entire fleet will go electric couldn't resist the allure of a flashy 2-door EV coupe. Rolls has built an electric Flagship.@@MotoManTV

[@garyclark6747]

My IONIQ 5 can DC fast charge approximately twice as fast the Spectra. 👉🏼However the Spectra can AC charge approximately twice as fast as my IONIQ 5 with a more capable built in charger.👍🏼I personally put 6 times👀 more energy in my IONIQ 5 using AC from my garage than I do publicly DC Fast Charging. Hyundai installing a better AC charger would be welcomed even though over night charging at my lower rate with a smaller battery is adequate. The low prioritization of AC charging in many US EV’s is due to little street side, deck, shopping and other parking charging opportunity’s like at work. I doubt anyone is going to pile on the highway miles on road trips needing DCFC’s with the Spectra. Hopefully every Spectra owner will install the correct charger to exploit one of Spectra’s greatest strengths that match its 4.4, 0-60 capability. Direct wire an 22kW EVSE on a 120A breaker as an investment in to always having your Rolls ready.

[@MotoManTV]

Even Rolls admits that people don't take their cars on long distance drive. One key stat: The average Rolls Royce owner has 5 cars.

[@garyclark6747]

@@MotoManTV Didn’t know that and 22kW AC Charger may be overkill for most use cases but will satisfy every use case which is so Rolls. I believe 22kW is par for the course in European countries so anything less would be substandard.

[@ErnestDuran-tx9lr]

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ❓❓❓ DOES IT HAVE THE SAME DOUBLE GLASS WITH THE PLASTIC LINER BETWEEN?? AND IF SO WHAT IS THE THICKNESS OF BOTH GLASSES TOGETHER NOW?

[@costafilh0]

Given how EVs lose value so quickly, the Specter will be the bargain of the decade within a few years.

[@ebf1003]

Everybody remember plasma TVs when they first came out. Yeah, EVs are doing the exact same thing.

[@Br1anuk]

Jesus what a behemouth!

[@MrSchn3ll]

Fastest way to lose $250k? Buy one of these and try to sell it 2 weeks later.

[@modfus]

Yeah, of course you're right, it's crazy expensive .......but it's still a fantastic thing.

[@Cloxxki]

The bespoke nature may be a large part to that. Would you wear another dude's used Hilfiger boxers...to a pool party? Such a car can be your signinature road presence for a decade to come. It's quite times and won't really go out of style. When everyone uses flying cars, perhaps you'll need one of those as well.

[@markcoopers1930]

Nothing new for a RR

[@davidkeenan5989]

Would you want to sell it two weeks later?

[@Shahabbi]

With the market these days, u could probably get away with selling it at msrp

[@2Bunphettered788]

Sometimes I wonder about the push for EVs. 🤔 Hertz sells off their high maintenance inventory.😮 Road barriers cannot withstand the weight of heavy EVs.😯 Considerably more wear & tear on tires due to heavy weight.😲 Lack of charging network and mechanics.😳 That noted, if there was ever a candidate for a luxury car manufacturer to go fully EV, Rolls-Royce would be at the top of my list. The cars are rarely driven. 😉😄

[@rapbenny]

Truly the only cool electric car

[@TheDestineyy]

Can someone tell me why an electric RR is hated?

[@ErnestDuran-tx9lr]

They need to put an alternator to charge the battery..... A stupidity how the charging battery works..

[@ErnestDuran-tx9lr]

❤❤❤ The old Rolls Royce were a lot quieter, but when BMW took over,,,, the noise of the engine you can hear it ... I think is because they replaced the engine with a BMW engine.... Not a true English engine no more ....

[@mfbikle]

How did MKDHB review this before you?

[@MotoManTV]

You would have to ask Rolls:)

[@longbeachcarguy]

Massive yes, pretty no. I have not liked one single RR since BMW took over. Tacky too, I mean those skylight headliners, what’s the point besides showing off. When I look back at silver shadows, corniches…now those were classy and still are 50 years later. IMO Aston is the only one left for refined elegance and style. Just me…

[@MotoManTV]

You guys know I am not a RR kind of guy, but have to say this is one you need to reserve judgment until you see it in person.

[@sananselmospacescienceodys7308]

It's a nice car but I'll never own one.

[@cdogg86]

But seriously though. How could you forget it's electric?

[@MotoManTV]

Was covered in detail in the episode - and will add more in a coming episode: The car was engineered as a Rolls Royce first that happens to be propelled by two electric motors. If you look at the many details we covered - the wheel size, the size the car, the UX - ALL of was envisioned with one goal: continue what Rolls Royce has been doing for 100 years despite the propulsion system. Exactly the opposite of what many OEMs have done with EV. They have felt the need to reinvent the car itself to prove that it is EV.

[@timothyburnside3229]

Well, another grand slam for you! Beautiful car but what would one expect, but when any manufacturer attempts to decide what the market will have instead of letting market make decisions, they usually guess wrong! is this the Roll Royce equivalent of any color you like as long as like black moment! Customers love choice and freedom to decide what their wish list is and if you narrow the choices someone else may just give them what they want!

[@bunglerat]

The design and styling is absolutely stunning. Unfortunately, you lost me at "260 mile range." The only EV I would seriously consider (and I'm not) is Lucid - because they're the only EV manufacturer that has made serious steps to address the range anxiety issue - and then, of course there's the woefully inadequate EV charging infrastructure. No, this car is for elites who just want to virtue signal to everyone that they're saving the planet by driving an EV (which they're not - but that's another topic again). Ultimately, the market has spoken - and the word is that the vast majority of people do not want EVs.

[@martinsbriglio8948]

Hybrid would have made more sense

[@ronnymb67]

So a Hyundai will charge faster and go farther. Gotcha. I know I know... "Are you really comparing a Hyundai to this?!" No... Merely pointing out that for the presence and price of this thing, perfection should be demanded and expected.

[@bendingspring]

I know this video is 6months old but sales & interest in “normal” EVs in the EU is slowly falling off a cliff. I wonder when RR/ BMW will retract that 2030 pledge.

[@Cloxxki]

102 kWh barely meets the new Macan, seems lees than the new Taycan. Ideally this would have the Lucid drivetrain or at least the new Taycan's, so it's less of a pain on a longer drive. In the modern world of "responses" you may need to driver FAR in a hurry. Even take turns with your driver to get to your destination in time. Unless you want to sit in a private jet and wera a face diaper like a simp. A Lucid might be the way to go, low consumption, decent back seat and a really strong A to B time cross continent. The Rolls is probably king when staying in your metropolitan area, but loses hours on a day long roadtrip.

[@Cloxxki]

With Lucid underpinnings, it would have had a frunk the size of a Rivian or F150 Lightning. Imagine always having a few changes of business suits ready to go. No need to go via home when going on a trip, your suits and watches and a spare laptop are all pre-packed and already in the car. Coats and gloves for Davos and linnen pants for the tropics.

[@dfdf4874]

I just don't see the value of an EV, whether it's an entry level product to a luxury offering. The inconvenience of limited range, charging times, and sparse charging stations make it more of a climate change flex (look at my luxury virtue signal!) because I guarantee the folks that can drop coin on this car, have a private jet.

[@MotoManTV]

I have responded to another comment on the bigger issue at hand with government mandates, but I am a fan of EVs as a daily. Why? You literally spend ZERO time in your day looking for energy. Does not sound like a big deal and no one really talks about it. However, once you spend time with an EV - and I do that a lot now - plugging it in at night and then heading out in the AM with enough energy for the day - transformative. That said, comes at a cost that few EV fans will honestly admit. That, a discussion for another day.

[@dfdf4874]

@@MotoManTV you’re right, using EVs as a daily is easily the best use case provided you own your own home to facilitate charging and you know you’re not taking it on a 400+ mile journey. I’m a Porsche guy and I love their EV designs (and tech) but I have a lot of reservations about finding charging stations outside my home range and performance when the temps drop.

[@TheDestineyy]

I don’t think many people will have this as a daily driver, it’ll be the one you might go out to dinner in.. That being said, charging shouldn’t be a huge issue

[@dfdf4874]

@@TheDestineyy I think the primary market for this vehicle are hypocrite celebrities that get flack for flying in private jets and yachts while pontificating about climate change. You think those people need a daily? I don’t think so.

[@TaniTaniwha]

I'm not sure this reviewer understands Rolls Royce

[@jarrodf_]

Confusing ending. You said it feels and drives like a RR, then you somehow lament EVs. ICE is dead, motodude; for that our kids are thankful we're minimising the buck we're passing on to them

[@MalKyle1]

Ludicrous, and all rhe better for it

[@MrAlpinab7]

an ecraptic car ? ohhh, electric, i'm sorry, my bad

[@stanlee3619]

It must suck to be you.

[@FrankGallagherr]

Tesla is the best car company ever no maintenance no gas stations no oil changes no smog check no corrupt dealerships no lying salesman

[@AfonsoSousa31]

😂😂😂

[@g.m3399]

Rr no one wants EV

[@firefox39693]

As I always say, I think you're completely wrong about the push the EVs. I think you're stance on the methodology comparing their environmental footprint with ICE vehicles is wrong. I think you're stance on the free market, specifically the ability of the free market to respond to climate change, is wrong. The free market cannot, and will not, respond to climate change unless legally required to. With that out of the way, I think BMW is completely missing out when it comes to what it could be doing with Rolls Royce. Rolls Royce is solely meant to sell overpriced cars. They can play on that and use platforms like the Spectre to experiment with space-age battery chemistries, battery pack configurations, cell formats, carbon fiber construction, high-voltage electrical architectures, and other things. Companies like BMW are held back by the realities of using materials like carbon fiber and using the newest, most advanced cell chemistries available. I don't think it's out of the question for Rolls Royce to profitably do all of that. They already charge an arm and a leg for all their cars.

[@MotoManTV]

Always appreciate respectful disagreement. Two very different points here - on the second, we mostly agree. On the first, worthy of a conversation. The EU & US have chosen a one size fits all approach tied to a wholly unrealistic timeline to address what they have termed a 'climate crisis'. No one is arguing against clean air, reducing waste or sustainability where it makes logical sense. What we do take issue with is the completely out of touch with reality plan and funding associated with it for 'climate' pet projects to the exclusion of all other possibilities. Government bodies have chosen Automotive OEMs as the boogey man and because they reign supreme over the likes of BMW Group, Mercedes, Ford, etc., uninformed lawmakers force their political plans on real economies which have had and will continue to have increasingly dire implications. Now, if you are a frequent viewer, you know I am not against EVs, I am against the governments forcing them down our throats at a dangerous pace without acknowledging very credible & far less costly (money and resources) alternatives. Rather than driving EV adoption through tax payer funded incentives, they should have invested that money into a public private cooperation to rebuild the grid (EU & US over time). Why? The grid will be the foundation of the utopia the lawmakers envision. If they had any hope of success in their ambitious plan, they would have started by addressing the root level of the problem: How is our energy created rather than making an entire industry that drives whole economies the scape goat for their hysteria. They didn't because they knew they couldn't move infrastructure change and investment fast enough so they chose the path of political theater instead of real change. So here we are in 2024 and more people have been negatively impacted by these overreactions to climate than the issue the lawmakers claim to be solving. That has gotten a lot of folks who up until recently couldn't care less and just went along to get along to stand up and take notice. This is the foundation for some of the pushback you are seeing on not just EV mandates, but the overall answer to anything is . . . 'climate emergency'. The combination of the changing tides of public perception and the realities of the world and what it takes to keep society going will continue to push unrealistic lawmakers to delay their plans and over time, they will start to warm to multiple solutions that have been presented many times as path forward but discarded because they did not fit within the EV train . . . Totally understand that no matter what I write here, many will disagree. However, it is time more of us point out the gaping holes in the logic because the cost of not doing so has been far too high and moving forward will continue to rise.

[@theanonymousone9668]

I can get a BMW i7 M70 for $300K less....and with the better-lookikg iconic glow grille AND a TV in the back. Why would you spend this much money on this car? Pointless.

[@cbotten106]

If your point is there is always a premium for the 2-door. Point well taken. And you get the umbrellas here too. Don't forget that.

[@johnferrier2803]

Who buys these cars? They scream, hey look at me I’m silly wealthy and want everyone to know it. They’re comically big as though you really need a dock, bow and stern thrusters and big cleats.

[@markcoopers1930]

People who want that. Why do people buy 60k$ pickups trucks just to haul kids and commute?

[@TheDestineyy]

This comment just screams jealousy… People buy them cause they want to and most of the time can afford them. No one buys a RR for no one to look at them…

[@pradeepchhabra2548]

Learn how to give reviews

[@David_Journey]

Autojournalism aside, I'd prefer to stay out of politics and government mandates here. The reporter lives in California, has witnessed the full wraith (or Wraith? since it's a RR episode ;-) ) of CA Wildfires just like all other residents, and still thinks EVs are about government mandates... that really sounds uninformed to me. If your home insurance for fire gets cancelled because it's too risky / prone to wildfire to insure, you start believing in climate change, or even if you don't - your insurance company will make you consider it harder.

[@MotoManTV]

Appreciate where you are coming from. Most of us don't want to mix our car discussions with politics, however, that is no longer possible. Multiple governments around the world have chosen to enter the car business without knowing the impact their overreach would create. In other words, I didn't set out to get into the world of politics . . . politics chose to enter mine. And while we're on politics . . . More on this topic in response to another viewer here in the comments. Regarding wildfires: Perhaps a bit more research is required for those not in the know: California wildfires are the direct result of poor management on the part of the people 'running' the state. Prior to the current super majority running the state, there was a budget and effort for wildfire prevention. Actions such as controlled burns went a long way to prevent wildfires.