1000cc Bike for BEGINNERS? The Truth About Liter Bikes...

[@lorentzinvariant7348]

There’s a guy here on KZbin started on a Ducati Panagale V4. Based his KZbin channel on the experience. He started in low power mode (about 130HP). He respected the bike and had no problems. Never crashed it nor dropped it. He now rides a v4 streetfighter. The channel is ‘Coolin With Jay’.

[@Timtimzi]

i was honestly thinking of doing the same. maybe a v2 or a 899 ducati. Doesn't make too much sense when a used r6 costs just as much

[@FullSendNation]

@@TimtimziI’m starting on an mt10, 0 experience with a bike. Just gonna ride it in the low power mode and take it slow

[@obeii1805]

@@FullSendNationme too 😂

[@halo3pownage]

You'll never ride nearly as good as you would if you started on a smaller bike. I started street riding on a 300 coming from dirt and now I'm on a 600 and having ridden liter bikes I'd rather have my 600, liter bikes are too much for the city, I don't wanna cruise around in first all the time around town

[@matejkuka797]

@@halo3pownage this may not be strictly true, because also someone who drives 1L for 20 years may not be as good as someone who drives 1L for 2 years, it also depends on the person himself

[@ensleyharris3608]

I started on an R6. Seemed fast at the time. Then bought an R1 and now I know what fast is. But I'm glad I didn't start on a litre bike.

[@filipzelenika1564]

should i start on a r6?

[@ensleyharris3608]

@@filipzelenika1564 I did but I respected it til I got many months under my belt

[@motonosity]

I think maybe the mistake was buying a new bike. I did a video about this not long ago, but I always recommend buying your first bike used and in the winter. Ride it for 5-6 months, establish your foundations as a rider, then sell it for profit in the summer and buy what you really want.

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

@@filipzelenika1564 Don't buy a bike built for racing for a first bike. Can't believe that still needs saying. There's a reason the R6 is the most crashed bike in the country. Dopes like OP buying it when they don't know how to ride. R3, Honda Rebel, Ninja 650, MT03... all great bikes that are plenty fast enough. Buy used and resell it in 6 months for what you paid for it or more.

[@dannyz7904]

Lol same here man , rode r6 for a year then hoped on a s1000rr to see how it is. Way too powerful for a newbie I wouldn’t start on a 1000cc , maybe after a couple of years of constant riding then you can upgrade and STILL have to be careful and have respect for the bike.

[@biglefty08]

I started on a gsxr 1000 and I'm still commuting on as I leave for work in about an hour. 3 hours each day, it's all about mentality.

[@jayrock81]

So would you say the Gsxr 1k is somewhat behaved for street use , and also how long did it take you to get used to the seating position ?

[@biglefty08]

@@jayrock81 Honestly I think a stock Gsxr 1000 is perfect for the street. The liter bikes start to get twitchy when they are tuned and modified sprockets. Which I have and it's still not the end of the world. Seating position is honestly the most comfortable of all liter bikes I have sat on 💯

[@jayrock81]

@@biglefty08 Right on brotha , thank you for the info.

[@1SeanRT]

I agree 100% and I know the power can be fun but deadly too.

[@the_c0ffee_kingduncan270]

amen to that . all about what youve done can do and your confidence on a sport bike engeneral .

[@piggywarswamp2310]

this is actually a good video when talking about beginner riders who wants a 1000 cc bike . alot of channels that i see either tell u not to get or get a 1000cc bike . u give a proper explanation and much clearer advice and info . at the end of the day if ur gonna get a 1000cc just ride it on low power mode for atleast 6 to 3 months and within those 3 to 6 months just practice drills refresh the basics that u learn in riders school n don't full throttle it and take it slow . once u buy the bike its not gonna go anywhere . 2 main points and very important points are:1-dont go on group rides until u get used to riding a bike and have good control over ur bike 2-dont listen to ur frens when they tell u to go faster ,ride at ur own pace and ur comfort zone . if ur frens have been riding and have experience they might laugh at u for riding slow and tell u to go faster . but plz take ur time cuz at the end of the day its ur life that u will be putting in danger n not ur frens so just take it slow keep practicing drills n njy those baby steps ur taking cuz the feeling that u feel when ur just starting only happens 1's . these points also apply with any cc bike u r buying just taking slow . its dangerous enough for us riders anyways so baby steps guys baby steps. 🏍😁✌

[@TurboForce.1]

Great information 🤙

[@KofoshiiKaro]

Thank You

[@snowflakesuperbike8294]

I have an R1 and 2 R6's , I love then ALL . I think discontinuing the R6 platform is a BIG mistake !!!!!

[@jakecastelein1776]

Why would you have 2 r6's? Can only ride one at a time haha. honest question😅

[@snowflakesuperbike8294]

@@jakecastelein1776 Jake , Great question ! One is an 05 , The other is an 06 , This was a Big change Year for the Yamaha R6 !!!! Massive Differences in Power out put per Rpm range , and jumping between the Two Is Making Me a better Rider !!!!!! Jake Get on one of these Bikes and LIVE !!!!!!!!!!!

[@jakecastelein1776]

@@snowflakesuperbike8294 thanks for the reply bro! Okay yeah that makes sense. I am saving up for one man ill get there💪

[@skxj]

Great video, my first sport bike was an R6 and I really enjoyed it. The weight and seat height was good. Because the power didn't come on till 10,000 you could ride it around town without scaring yourself accidentally.

[@natecote1971]

Exactly i had a 06 r6 it was perfect! Had to like try really hard to wheelie it, handled amazingly could do like 167mph

[@forthcoming-d8694]

I started on a brand new 2019 CB1000-R which i bought last year. I am 43 Y/O who last rode a 125cc scooter when i was 20 years old. I am riding my CB1000-R in Standard mode all the time going from south Carolina to NYC, NH and Maine. I've already jacked 10,000 on the Odo. Keeping my distance, good control of the throttle and speeding only when on open highways away from Traffic Clusters 🙂 2 chanel ABS Tokico brakes, Traction control, engine brake & slipper assist Clutch all come to the rescue with liter bikes so it is up to the rider to be in charge of his/her ego. I personally ride while keeping in mind that those safety modes don't exist.

[@dotiskingsp2997]

I don't know about that 600cc theory bro! I got a 2017 R6 as my first bike and I love it! Glade I didn't go smaller and question if I should have gotten the 2017 R1. The modes on these new bikes make a big difference. Rode my R6 around in the lowest mode first few weeks and gradually gained confidents. Now it's been in A mode(fastest) for about 3 years 🤣. With in the first year I figured out I could have did the same thing with the newer R1🤦🏾‍♂️. Best thing I can say to beginners is take MSF course figure out your capability and go from there (note these bikes are fast, but I'm sure you know that if you did your researched). 😉

[@Fee.1]

Let’s be honest. The answer, as always, is “it depends”

[@rignahh1661]

the answer should always be: No

[@Yonii963]

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[@SquintsRide]

always

[@jasontodd9302]

@@rignahh1661 😂 nah bro Fee is right. It depends. I started on an 08 CBR600RR. I turned out just fine. Circumstances that I believe led me to being fine. Mid 30’s, came from the car scene ( SRT-4, RSX type S supercharged, Focus ST, FOCUS RS, Jetta GLI VR6, R32) so the clutch part and shifting came real easy for me. Fact is everybody is different and come from different backgrounds. So like Fee said, “it depends”. 💯

[@pballa1994]

@@jasontodd9302 Same, started riding when I was 26 on a 675. Also came from the car scene, still havent taken a fall...yet

[@AntaresSQ01]

The biggest reason for me for going to a liter bike is the quality of life, I had a Ninja 650, and I wanted a touring bike, now if I went for a Versys 650 it's nearly identical to my Ninja 650 save for a bit comfier seating position and maybe the 12v lighter port. However the S1000XR I got instead has lean sensitive abs, cruise control, heater grips, adjustable windscreen, remaining range indicator, dynamic suspension, all of these you just simply dont get on sub 1 liter bikes. Even BMW's own F900XR misses 80% of these features, and this doesn't even mention the significantly higher quality components (4 piston radial brembos vs 2 piston nissins etc ), and significantly better suspension

[@diskreet]

Last year I sold my Tuono, which is a 170+ hp 1077cc bike. I bought a 2019 R6. So much happier with it. No longer feels like it's always trying to kill me but still plenty of power for street riding. If you lust after a litre bike watch how fast he's actually riding here. If you don't actually want to ride 100+mph everywhere, you don't need it. And you don't. It's fun, but it's going to get you in trouble

[@ValkyrieActual141]

I started on a 1200cc Triumph Bobber and I would never look back. Starting on a faster, heavier bike teaches you things that most riders don't understand for years down the road. Whenever you do get on a smaller bike, you feel like you have absolute control of everything. Getting back on a bigger CC bike is just memory at that point. My Bobber is the best thing I could've asked for. Definitely NOT for starters but I said to hell with it. Now I'd never go back.

[@PleadTheFifth_Racing]

If you are mature, have experience with really fast cars, are physically fit, and can afford it....there is nothing wrong with starting on a liter bike. I think liter bikes are great for the street, I own 3 of them with 2 of them producing over 200whp, absolutely brutal machines. Realize though that you will have a much steeper learning curve than starting on a smaller bike. I'm currently looking for something between 400-600cc as something I can practice wheelies on, abuse on the track, and not feel bad when I eventually put it down.

[@Thomas998822]

If you know you want to end up on a liter bike, get a liter bike to start. As a new rider who never rode anything, I listened to all the noise and got a SV650... great bike... and I outgrew it and got bored in one month. I did dozens of hours of research, watched dozens of YT videos, read many forum posts and literally everyone was saying the same thing, so I figured they must be right. For me, THEY WERE ALL WRONG! I now regret it every time I ride. I have to save up for my next bike, which is a BMW S1000rr, and I'm stuck with this slow bike. I listened to all the people who said, "a liter bike is way too much bike for a beginner", "you can have just as much fun on a 650". This is absolute garbage. It's like saying you can have just as much fun in a V6 Honda Accord, as you can a Ferrari. Total nonsense. Everyone's different though. If fun to you is moderate acceleration, you have no interest in going faster than 120mph, and/or you know you are reckless and have no inherent coordination and skills... then YES get a starter bike 100%. If you know you want to end up on a liter bike, you want to go 140mph, and have even a fair amount of confidence in your maturity and composure; then get the liter bike. I never rode and was entirely dependent on other's experiences and was totally unsure and apprehensive; if you're on the fence and unsure if you can handle a liter bike, but have a good feeling you can, YOU CAN! Most all modern super sports have low speed modes to learn on, like the guy said in the video. Even if its an older 1000, just take it easy and start slow... you'll be up to speed in literally 2 weeks. Even though 95% of riders will tell you different, 95% (probably much less) of riders aren't interested in super sports, and they're NOT talking about riders like me, and potentially you. Don't let anyone scare you off your path. For someone like me, a "beginner bike" was a complete waste of time, and NO, it's nowhere near as fun. I rode my friends GSXR1000R and my 650 is nowhere in the same universe of fun.

[@512460]

Same boat buddy took my test on sv650 now the way the instructors and other speak about the power gap from 125 to 600cc is like the 600 will kill you. Anyways when we got on the road after a few sessions the sv650 just felt gutless like a 125 and I was disappointed. People made out that it'll tear your head off. Anyways I've decided to be a bmw s1000r gen 2 as my first bike. I'm glad to see you comment highlighting this. As I'm also a person who relays on others opinions so there are people who are like you. Like myself. I feel bad for you that you now have to deal with a slow bike. As now that's money wasted a year of insurance and tax and fuel. All of which could've gone towards the purchase of the bmw and you'd actually be happy.

[@HeldIntegral]

Tru. I actually have a v6 Honda accord and I wish it was a ferrari 😳 I also started on an N400 and wish it was a zx10r

[@captaincrundle5691]

My first bike was the 390 Duke and it’s been amazing. I’ve ridden my dad’s 790 Duke a bunch of times and it’s so crazy fun having all that power on tap, but the lightweight 390 is so much better for honing my skills and teaching me to ride well, not just fast. I think the 400-500cc class is where it’s at - enough power to have an amazing time, but not too much to just be relying on it all the time to have a good time before you know how to brake and corner like a champ.

[@cesarsanchez5131]

I started on a S1000rr and I love it

[@LTG.Plissken]

still rocking it?

[@selfmade700]

That glorious R1 sound🔥

[@MEEK5]

The only reason why starting on a 600cc vs a 1000cc is the throttle being twitchy and heavy. These aren’t the case with the newer liter bikes. They’re lighter and have diff power modes so it’s more forgiving.

[@nihonkokusai]

Adjust the throttle cable

[@nmbrss]

Started on a s1000 rr two months ago i ride with no safety mods i love it up here in paradise

[@chrisssrv1312]

How’s it going? I’m thinking about getting the s1000rr as my first ever bike

[@flyfisherneil5201]

Started on an R3 and loved it. Learned to wheelie which I think is better on a smaller bike. Waiting for my R6 to be shipped to my local dealer now 😬

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

R3 is a fun af bike. You ever try the track on it?

[@davemorrales58]

I started on a 115cc scooter then an r3 now I'm on a 07 zx10r and riding slow bikes fast is more fun

[@TN23BIKER]

Exactly bruh

[@RYU583]

💯💯 I would rather squeeze the performance out of a 250cc sport bike than baby a 1000cc Zx25r would be my choice if available in USA

[@gregoryalford7727]

I started on a GSXR 750 moved to CBR 1000RR and now I ride a Hayabusa and I enjoyed every Motorcycle I’ve ridden!

[@JUS-DEH-TEEP]

Super happy you posted this cause i was in the process of buying a 600 and the day before i was supposed to go pick it up the guy said he didn’t want to sell it anymore. I told him it was a little messed up but i wasn’t too hurt about it because i was already second guessing getting a 600 vs a 1000 because i know i can leave it in b mode for a while till i get use to the bike. Plus how much you get for the very little price difference is totally worth it.

[@VADER3223]

Hey bro you still alive ?

[@JUS-DEH-TEEP]

@@VADER3223 yup. And super happy i went with the R1. Austin racing exhaust sounds mint and liumoto seat with the good gel fixes the uncomfortable seat issue.

[@VADER3223]

@@JUS-DEH-TEEP Your an absolute ledgend bro

[@Bikerboykartik]

I am an experienced 50cc rider after watching this video I am gonna upgrade to a Turbo busa

[@ivanpekic3544]

and twin turbo it

[@Bikerboykartik]

@@ivanpekic3544 ohhh great idea 💡 thx mate will sure do it

[@boostednick]

There are alot of options out there for new riders today. The Kawasaki ZX4RR is a great choice. Yamaha has the R7 if you're not set on a 4 cylinder bike. Honda has the CBR650R. Just to name a few with less power than a 600cc supersport but have the styling of one.

[@Westside_Hippie]

And cfmoto is allegedly dropping a 675 triple and a 500cc inline 4, the question is whether it’s coming to USA or not

[@chiareu7912]

I oficially started on a '05 Fireblade with streetfighter setup back in 2014 and I still ride the same bike today. I must say that if you have a good functioning brain, this specific liter bike is very friendly towards beginners. Above this, you'll never feel the need for another bike once you get the hang of it as It can be stupidly fast, put out Ferrari like acceleration, heck it goes to 299km/h with stock settings, and more with mods. Ride smart and you'll be safe ;)

[@golfnerd3107]

You’re never safe on a motorcycle. A slower bike will keep you “safer” from your own stupidity, but that’s it.

[@dozingengineer]

True I live in India and crashed a 100 cc commuter bike at 20kmph, I since waiting to get my new 125 cc but once I move out of country I will look forward to buy a 1L bike Edit in India animals are open on roads, it doesn't matter how much power your vehicle makes because you are going to stuck in traffics for hours, and anyone can pop up anytime.

[@yantaran4757]

If you're located in Canada the insurance for a litre bike is just crazy...

[@Raidel36]

Started on an 07 gsxr 600 had it for 2 months and rode 1500 miles and sold it

[@jthompson6189]

My first bike is a 390 KTM, plan on buying a Z H2 next year. For all things mentioned in this video, I'm not worried about managing its power, helps I'm older and pretty responsible. God, can't wait.

[@jasontodd9302]

Just saying, I started on a 08 CBR600RR. First season was awesome! Second season added Toce exhaust, ECU flash, K&N filter, Arrow header. WOW 😳....that made it a different bike 💯

[@jasontodd9302]

@Aaron Ferguson the MotoDynamics headlight conversion

[@Totes_ma_Goat]

Thank you for making this video. Im in my early 40s and buying a friend's 05 R1. I rode some in my early 20s some street bikes and dirt bikes but never anything above a 600cc. I never rode consistently either. But this video helped put my nerves at ease. I figure 90% of its mental getting back riding again, and many videos on here say stay away from the 1 litters when starting out.

[@alexanderswander8176]

I started on an Fz-09. Can't wait to buy an S1000rr. glad I started on the Fz, taught me how to corner, lean, and control my weight. Also I don't have to worry if anything happens because the bike is cheap and super easy to work on. I dropped the bike and lowsided it trying to learn corners, it's all apart of the process and good thing it wasn't a liter bike on that I crashed. Better to buy a cheap beater first

[@fandean3330]

Lol damn that’s a hell of a first bike

[@alexanderswander8176]

@@fandean3330 Hell yeah was a hell of first bike. Once I got over the fear of power I was doing power wheelies non stop, any straight or highway entrance. That coupled with how fast you get to 132 and the torque. Best money I’ve ever spent.

[@fandean3330]

@@alexanderswander8176 Haha oh I bet I have a 2021 flashed mt09 I love that thing. I’m starting to crave an R1 though😂😂

[@alexanderswander8176]

@@fandean3330 the mt09 is perfect just wish it had a higher top speed right? You feel like you wish you had more? And an R1 would be awesome! Just harder to wheelies unless you’re kilacam

[@fandean3330]

@@alexanderswander8176 Yeah the top speed limiter sucks. I got it removed with my flash and hit 145 with some room to go so think it’s probably capable of hitting 150. Nothing compared to an r1 though haha I rode my friends and I must have one now😂

[@MetronomeOne]

I started on a cbr1000rr. I bought it for commuting to work/school. Buying the liter bike was cheaper than buying a series of beginner bikes 1st. It is was, and still is, incredibly fun to ride. It was easy for me to ride. I have decent balance, and I showed restraint at first. I would go out at 3am and practice riding in empty parking lots. Straight line speed is easy; corning and U-turns require more finesse and discipline.

[@matthewheitzman5993]

My first bike when I was 15 (actually my profile picture still hahah) Was a 2003 Suzuki SV1000s and I think that’s a perfect bike to start on Comfortable Tons of torque Same “fast” as a 600 And you won’t outgrow or get bored of the bike after a few months The ONLY downside for me when I got it being 120lbs teenager was the bike is heavy for a sport bike so I wasn’t comfortable walking it around if I wasn’t sitting on it A true true beginner, I would say the 650 over the 1000 I’ve been “riding” since I was 5 so like

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

Guys like you who grew up on dirt and with pit bikes usually have the skills to go big for their "first" streetbike. People who've never ridden before should be on a 300 imo

[@matthewheitzman5993]

@@beanwithbaconmegarocket no I still always highly recommend a sv650 or really anything in the 650 category if they want a “sporty” bike For bigger people like my friend then I say the naked 1000’s A bike you’re going to get tired of in a year is a waste of money

[@darrinrathburn6355]

I currently got a 2019 zx6r and want to upgrade to a zx10r but insurance is the only thing holding me back. Liter bike insurance is crazy for younger people

[@gregmccauley1687]

The great strength of 600s that you didn't mention though is the price. Like you said, a 600 and a liter bike are basically the same thing unless you're really ripping the 1000 or going over 120mph but you can get a used 600 in good condition for 6 or 7 grand, less if you will take a more beat up example. 1000s are inching towards 20k new, a good example will be costing a pretty penny if you are going for the used market.

[@4npushap352]

Started on a R6 and never looked back 😎

[@hariskhalid2323]

Will start on a 1000cc and never be able to look again

[@rahulsreekumar_]

A friend of mine upgraded from a 390 duke to a 1000cc😉💥

[@trish5042]

Started on a gixxer 750 and same dawg, still haven't looked back 😎🤟

[@4npushap352]

@DMoney Industry lol I was waiting for this one 🤣 great point🙏🏼

[@R1___]

U can start at any bike if u have a brain and self control tbh

[@followthesapper324]

Learning on my brothers busa, no issues so far. I'm familiar with machinery and driven all over the place. Respect the machine, don't go outside your skill envelope and you'll be fine

[@calli1993]

I started on a BMW S1000r. Yes I may now be a better rider if I had started on something a bit smaller but I have really enjoyed having a 1000 for my first bike.

[@jz6469]

I started on a 07 r1. And now I'm riding 14 s1krr. It depends, but be honest, 600cc is better for beginners.

[@melvincannell9449]

Lets be honest here a bike will only gan fast if you turn the throttle more simples

[@Ph0enix7373]

The r1 is a monster the shreds things apart and the s1000rr is a fine gentleman that cuts things down very precisely with a sabre

[@kmassey]

I started on my 954rr and wouldn’t change a thing. I just bought another one!

[@HalfdeadRider]

You're either a strangely sensible youngster (or very lucky to be alive), an older chilled bloke starting a little later in life, or full of shite lol

[@kmassey]

@@HalfdeadRider Definitely not full of shite. Definitely not an old bloke at 28. I’d say I’m fairly sensible yet slightly mad and absolutely lucky to be alive!

[@86250r]

954s are slower than new 600s lol

[@kmassey]

@@86250r mustangs are slower than 954s

[@86250r]

@@kmassey lmao plenty of mustangs that will gap a 954 or 600 bike. Just not mine currently lol

[@radzx10daddy24]

I started on a 636 you'll be fine just respect the machine and don't let the power get to your ego and you'll be just fine

[@watchmelowsidekappa9184]

636Gang

[@richardh418]

I just started on a new liter bike for 3 months now and it's my first motorcycle. So far so good plus I'm riding safe and not crazy.

[@thedragonofechigo7878]

Nice man What bike is it

[@kevinpatterson3908]

I just got a GSX-S1000F for Christmas. Its my first bike and I absolutely love it.

[@jackmcinnis4510]

damn who got you that? Or did you get it yourself? lmao but seriously how well does it perform?

[@kevinpatterson3908]

@@jackmcinnis4510 my wife got it for me lol. Today I went for my first group ride and it was amazing. Takes turns like a champ and has so much power at just a little twist of the throttle.

[@prodtlee1343]

@@kevinpatterson3908been thinking about getting a 1000cc as first what was your overall experience ?

[@kevinpatterson3908]

@prodtlee1343 it's a great choice but takes alpt of self control to not just open it up and fly 🤣 i was a bit nervous as first because I hadn't even done the riding course or nothing could hardly turn on the first day....if you can stop yourself from going open throttle all the time I'd recommend the 1k first....then you don't have to upgrade for a long time 🤣

[@rayhoffmann9040]

My first bike a vtr1000f, the only electrical thing about this bike is the ignition and the lights. There is no controlling this or that, it is what it is. It doesn't matter what bike you ride, if you respect the bike, not give it more than your ability, and not pop the clutch, you'll be able to grow with any bike. If you screw up or not respect your ability/bike you'll end up with a free ticket to the afterlife in a 140cc or a 1000cc. I think rider maturity has a lot to do with what you'd start on. I just started riding when I was 35 and I'll tell you if I had this bike when I was 20 I wouldn't be posting this. - Everyone is different. Have fun.

[@Br4ndo562]

Love the channel man, and that s1000rr, is beautiful

[@jaredmorawey3796]

I just recently got my first motorcycle, Ninja 500, I do get blown around a lot around semi trucks, but it is still a lot of fun

[@thomaswalker9277]

My 1st bike was a Z750S. So I started with a naked bike. Loved it. But now I have a 06' R1, and won't ever look back.

[@DarrenMart]

My first bike was a fz6r and it felt super fast to me. I had it for a year until I had to sell it, rough time. Now I am looking to get a liter bike soon!! But Ive been around bikes a lot of my life.

[@RedAlien79]

Litre bikes can be as tame or as wild as you want. They have the potential for outrageous performance, but ultimately it's the rider that's in control. Riding a bike (any bike) is all about risk mitigation. It's an inherently dangerous activity, but you as a rider can actively do things to lower the risk. Picking the right moments to go fast (road with good visibility, little traffic, good conditions), and proper lane positioning depending on the situation are two huge examples. I started on a Ninja 400 before getting a 2018 RSV4. I'm glad I went that route. I made some noob mistakes on the Ninja, and that bike was very forgiving. However, I've come to realize the RSV4 is just much more pleasant to ride on the street. It has around 5x the power (45 vs 201 hp), but it has very linear power delivery that's easy to control. With that power and torque you don't have to rev the nuts off the thing to get up to speed. The clutch is also so much better on the Aprilia. The super light clutch on the Ninja felt like a toy, and was hard to modulate. The brakes on the RSV4 will actually slow you down, as well. The current crop of litre bikes is just amazing. They have great frames, great brakes, fantastic electronics, and are easy to ride. I still advise a beginner to steer clear of them. Things can happen fast on the street, and a powerful bike gets you there quicker.

[@dylanstout3337]

Started on a r1 had a blast with it, I don’t regret starting on it, but I do believe the 600 would’ve been a better option. With that being said I rode dirt bikes growing up so I was familiar with motorcycles.

[@sorryidgaf.6043]

I’ve grown up with dirt bikes. 2 completely different worlds. Only thing you have a Advantage in is “only” knowing controls of a bike. Power is a complete night and day experience.

[@jordangarrick703]

How did you keep from unintentionally ripping wheelies on your R1? I would think someone new to a liter bike would mistakingly crack the throttle open....

[@kyleleisses4536]

Watching til the end (like always) and coming across a street triple compliment just warms the heart

[@slowb328i]

just talked to a friend and he would recommend starting a on 600 if you don't want to do anything smaller then that. said there's actually a major difference from a 1000 and a 600cc engine. he's had many close calls that he wouldn't recommend a liter bike to start with if you have no experience. me personally would start w a r6 which i am this coming year. and really cant wait to get that experience. and if you have little experience, go for a used 600 instead of something cleaner that you might drop

[@zeemotos5234]

That’s great point man ! That’s why I started on a 600cc to get experience and get more comfortable. R1 or Bmw 1000RR is my next bike!🤝🚀😎

[@slowb328i]

@@zeemotos5234 how many miles you got on yours? i’m looking for an ‘17-2020 r6 and looking to buy one mid season

[@zeemotos5234]

@@slowb328i I just hit 2100 miles on my 2020 Yamaha R6! 🤝

[@zeemotos5234]

Mid season is good time to buy or winter.

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

no one should start on an r6. the fact that people think it's slow means they're shit riders.

[@andyjackson5]

i started on a 2006 zx6r... rode that for 6 years then got a 2011 zx10r. i think you can start on whatever you like if you can afford it and your right hand is connected to your brain. i rode a scooter in ibiza on holiday and it was soo much fun, but was that because i was on holiday? or because i have a zx10r at home? who knows. bikes are just fun. stay safe. love from scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@uniflare]

And now they discontinue R1. I've ridden an R125 for couple years. had an 8 year break, then got my full license a few weeks ago and went for the last homologation model of the R1. Living in Germany, I can legally ride as fast as I can (can, not want, don't be reckless) on some stretches of the autobahn. I started on D Mode for a week, then moved to B mode, won't go A mode until I am a little more comfortable (probably in next couple weeks), but will keep lift control and some other safety higher then defaults for the most part. Those roads in the USA look amazing, long mostly straight and wide. Would love to ride my bike over there, but no funds for that for a while :D. If you really enjoy motorbikes, and aren't afraid of bikes (maybe spend a few months at least on a 125/300 or something), then getting a litre bike is fine if you are careful and not reckless imo. My advice is really, get a cheap second hand 125/300, be prepared to take a fall or two, drop the bike etc. Don't spend all your cash on your first bike, you will cry when you drop it/come off the first time.

[@maysin81]

Supposed to be 77 and sunny here in FL tom. I will be on my S1R.

[@BRZO.RACING]

I think it depends on the person and there ability to learn and adapt also how mechanically minded they are. If you a fast learner you can ride just about anything. When it comes to riding a 1L bike on the road it is very fun and also not at the same time if you consider other road users, we have a lot of SH#T drivers in my country and a lot of traffic. Some days I wish i was on a 600cc so i guess it all depends on your situation. Great video man !

[@RichBandza]

Love the vid bro keep up the great work. Be safe out there 💯🖤

[@daltonwilliams8272]

My first street bike was a r1 but I had 20 years experience riding and racing dirt bikes

[@savagesrt]

I started out with a zx14r, and mainly because of how comfortable it was to ride. Plus I’m 6’3 220lbs. So a 600 was not an option at allllll. After my zx14r I got the bike I really wanted a bmw s1krr. And to be honest starting out on my zx14r was probably the best decision I made when I first started riding. It’s all about the person riding some people can’t handle a stupid powerful bike and don’t have discipline to control and some people do.

[@scott-rt6hl]

Buy a RR litre bike but leave your fkn ego at home and also, don't fall for other guys itching for a fatal drag race. I wore out a shitty 2 stroke 50cc after puberty, got a 1986 CBR 1000F after I got married, somewhere between I still have a 1996 Kawasaki KLX 650C, now it's 2024 and I also have a 2001 CBR 929RR with a 40 toothed rear sprocket just to take some revs off 6th gear. I still don't know what ashfalt burn is and let's keep it that way. I'll be 59 in a couple of months. Stay safe.

[@immortaldusk]

I found the R1 more road friendly than the R6 because you could do everything on the R1 that you could do on the R6 at a lower RPM, which meant more linear power and predictable throttle response. Still not really beginner friendly, but really no less than the R6. I wouldn't recommend either though.

[@W9_906]

The 2012-14 still looks the best IMO

[@sergemi3606]

thanks:) Black 14' r1

[@Andieelizabeth73]

White 2012, Yes girls ride x

[@kungfumaster300]

is it just me or are all the new liter bikes starting to look wayyy to similar?

[@PowerfulChanges]

All about the right mentality, if you’re fully accountable and aware how powerful the bike is you on and you’re mature you can start on a 1000cc , if you’re looking to have fun that’s not the right idea if you want to start on a 1000cc gonna quote uncle Ben here because it aligns perfectly with great power comes great responsibility if you respect the bike the bike will respect you.

[@sarkastikb5566]

I say it still doesn't matter as long as you respect the bike....for instance: going 95 on a 400, 650, 600, 750, or a 1000 is the same speed....the only difference is the the quality of parts on the bike and weight. Beginner bikes doesn't hold value and are never kept...maybe SV's..plus they're a different bike in general from a 600 or liter bike. Going at highways speed on a beginner bike is more dangerous because of the horrible quality...at least on a 600 or 1000, you have excellent forks, brakes, abs, stabilizers, heavy duty swing Arms, tires, etc.

[@jameswyattt1]

I started on a 125 at 17, rode that for 2 years before I did the test at 19 allowing me to ride anything up to 74bhp, so I bought a 2nd hand MT-07 and had that for near 3 years where I took another test at 22 to allow me to ride anything I want. After that I bought a brand new 2019 MT-09 and I've been happy ever since, now I have 6 years of experience and still don't have a litre bike, but want one. Also, U.K. license rules are tough.

[@motorcycleislife8296]

I had the MT-09 for about 2 years and bought a gsx s1000 and the power difference is insane. On the MT09 if you put it in 6th gear on the highway at 60-70 and full throttle it, it will gradually accelerate. On the 1000 it has tons of power. I don't have to down shift to pass someone. The difference from 900cc to 1000cc was night and day. The feeling you get with MT09 at lower speeds and torque are the same with the 1000cc but don't lose power at higher speeds

[@imta1ha]

Damn these UK rules are wild wth. Here in the us literally get a litre bike at 16😂

[@joeyezilux6703]

It depends in my opinion. If u ride in the mountain, 600cc are so much fun and u will notice the difference between 1000 and 600 for sure. Highway run yes 1000 cc is fast

[@ChaseN194]

I think its clearly their way of saying: if you want a fast track bike, you should be prepared to have one and mature enough to have one. So until then, R3, MT3 MT7, THEN MAYBEEEEE you get an R1 if you still have that itch. Just acknowledge that a liter bike is an ultimate track weapon. Also, damn the new R1 is slow af.

[@diptanudebbarma9006]

According to my opinion, a KTM duke 390 is the best beginner bike

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

+1

[@tomgramlich797]

maybe even start young with a 125

[@ansh.cinematics]

I would go with rc 390 bs6

[@sambeezy007]

Ninja 400 for me if you're small

[@narendra1844]

no, in my opinion, a DUCATI V4R is the best beginner bike 😂

[@nugget6644]

I have seen people with years of experience that landed in a hospital with small bikes... riding slowly... always have been polite on the streets. And i know children, literal teenagers that started on 1000cc and now they are in their 30s... still riding 1000c... And i'm talking about... Super Sport... 170HP-200HP and way above that... i'm not talking about 1000cc that have 140hp...

[@justjamesAMX]

Really been thinking about getting a Buell 1125r as a first street. I've had a ton of 2 stroke dirt bike experience. I know it's a terrible idea but I really want one, they're hard to come by and one has come up for sale recently

[@yaboifrostyyy871]

What I’m doing is, I got a 2016 s1000rr and paid for it in full so I can afford full coverage. I’m also going to get a 650 to start on because they're cheap. But mainly for learning how to ride in traffic. I’d be keeping in in rain mode for a hot while. Didn’t get a 1000 to go super fast. Just so it can comfortably do a little over in not that high of rpms. (Obviously not right away, that’s just pretty much all I want) but I don’t plan on riding it quickly. I just know the s1000 had a lot of rider aids. I have a decent amount of throttle experience, just not a not in traffic. Which is why I’m getting a 650 as well. I didn’t want to get a 600 because I didn’t want to spend that much for a step and on a bike I didn’t want. Also, I got the s1000 before the 650 because it was a really good deal and didn’t want to wait and pay more

[@davidseard1321]

Food for thought. The discontinuation of the R6 and all 600’s in the future is because MotoGP have stepped up to the 765. Also the introduction of the 800 and 900 cc bikes it makes no sense anymore for 600’s. With exception of the triumph Daytona 675r all the other 600’ s would have to be at high rpm to make any power. Thanks for the content your bikes are amazing. Keep up the great work.

[@truevhazo4001]

Wait no more 600cc class?

[@TheThinkingMansTemplar]

You can ride a 1000 like a 600, BUT you can not ride a 600 like a 1000.. My 2016 R1 was my favorite possession I have ever owned. Just sold it because I am moving to Brazil this month. But as far as a 600 I felt like 65 was super fast. After I got the R1 It was hard NOT to go 95 mph topped out at 163 easily!!! ..A mode was literally annoying ..I would stay in b & C mode on the street. The R1 is an amazing machine...

[@luketyner7016]

Will they be selling the “track” R6 in the US? If so, couldn’t you potentially just turn that into a street legal R6 (headlights, then signals, tail light, etc)?

[@anish_R1]

I don't think they will but I like the idea dude

[@KimmyR3]

no, because it wont pass emission regulations.. unless your area still haven't adopted euro 5/6

[@Bengy22]

​@@KimmyR3 Does it even need to pass emissions if you're converting it to legal in a lot of places, I know people do it with dirtbikes / supermotos and have no problems

[@shibapatrol801]

Here's my take on the R6 being discontinued. I know this is an American channel and your opinions are obviously coming from that perspective but if we look at global trends, bike ownership in the West (esp sportbikes) are down, people are opting for lower displacement bikes overall because they are beginner friendly, cheaper to own/maintain, and because of licensing restrictions. Multiple vehicle ownership is down, with many young generation opting out of owning vehicles completely. Motorbike manufacturers generate majority of their income not from big displacement bikes but from scooters and lower displacement bikes. Emerging markets do not buy big sportbikes, they buy practical everyday bikes. Keeping all that in mind, continuing the middle-class doesn't make all that much sense other than for homologation purposes for racing but maybe it's a cost even the manufacturers don't see is worth it anymore.

[@HandHaben]

they replaced the r6 with the r7 (a bike with a bigger displacement) so your argument about people opting for smaller displacement and its correlation between the so-called “discontinuation” of the r6 doesn’t hold up

[@donski8687]

These roads you ride are beautiful compared to UK !!

[@motormuttldn]

UK roads are piss poor lol

[@MRomano1984]

I hate the roads we have in the UK

[@Harnishchappy]

I feel like yamaha should keep the R6, yamaha fans should have options I feel, I already have an R1 but I know one day I will want one of the newer model R6 🏍️👌🤞

[@joshmaag2457]

I think they will do something to fill that price point seeing people do want a sport focused bike but may not want such a big bike or want to spend the money for a liter bike. So I’m curious

[@steak7654321]

It's as simple as they're not selling. It's unfortunate, but money is money

[@JamieS1992]

well americans should have gotten them instead of just wishing for them there no longer to be sold in the US because no one was buying them

[@Arealprizeguy]

I just picked up the 2020 r6 3 weeks before the announcement 🍀

[@alexduey7868]

Should have bought one sooner along with many others 600 ss don’t sell anymore

[@ghostlypiano69]

sad to see the R6 go. they say that having an R1 (just used for context cause the R1 is the only liter bike i'd own) is like having an R6 cause of the modes is better. but, the insurance on an R1 is going to be that of a liter bike. i looked into it and having the modes doesn't get you a brake on the outrageous insurance lol. insurance would still be hella cheaper on the R6 just cause of the cc's. still tho, if i ever win the lotto, the only liter bike i'd own would be the R1 cause ... i mean that sound lol

[@LRS7B]

In the *UK* 🇬🇧 you have to start on a *125cc* motorbike unless your over 24 😅

[@inflow8711]

I’m buying a 1000cc motorcycle as my first motorcycle this week! I’m used to my little 125 cc dirt bike I can’t wait 😁

[@mr.sir0173]

How is it?

[@inflow8711]

@@mr.sir0173 it’s really nice got my first motorcycle at 17! Gotta wait till summer to full ride it though buts it was fun when I first picked hit up it’s crazy fast also

[@mr.sir0173]

@@inflow8711 nice man. Yeah I have a 250 and was wondering how it was to get onto a 1000. I’ve ridden my friends cbr500r several times. What kind is it? Would you recommend?

[@inflow8711]

@@mr.sir0173 I went straight from a 125cc little pit bike to the 1000cc lol but it’s a Yamaha FZ but It’s modded a lot I’m about to but a turbo in it

[@mr.sir0173]

@@inflow8711 sounds good man. Just be careful on it.

[@BriskWintun]

Great video this has convinced me to get a liter bike as my first!

[@spayceworldcreations8227]

me too.

[@mamannany]

Due by regulation in my country I must ride something under 47.5hp for 2years and honestly it’s fantastic to start riding because otherwise I would have done so much daily 100 and I would have more chance to injure myself, so start small folks

[@hennosotter]

imo it should be 1 year. 2 is too long. I want more adrenaline, the illegal 650 isnt doing the trick no more

[@stephensniff]

@@hennosotter why is a 650 illegal? Do you mean for the first 2 years? Are you from the same country as Gillis (the OP)?

[@stephensniff]

What country are you in? Australia?

[@arride4590]

My first bike is a R6 2020. Just dont be stupid, drive safe and you will be fine. Every ride you will learn more. If you are stupid, you can crash in a 250cc, 1000cc or even a bicycle. 99% motorcycle accidents are the riders fault. Ride like you are invisible for everyone, go slow on curves and double attention on intersections.

[@bearded_ginger6765]

When I was way younger my first motorcycle was a suzuki bandit 600cc I got for 300$ and bashed it for 2 years. Sold it got a 2001 cbrf4i 4 years ago, rode that and was super comfortable riding It. Someone stole it 2 weeks ago from today so I stepped it up and just bought a ninja zx10r let me say this man I never realized how small the 600s are until I rode this thing 😂😂

[@LionMouse23]

In Europe you can't get a license for a bike with more power than 35kW before 24 y/o or 21 y/o if you have 2 years of experience with a bike under 35kW

[@Tiqerboy]

1 kW = 1.34 HP

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

Should be like that in the States, imo.

[@arride4590]

@@beanwithbaconmegarocket im sure you are that kind guy riding 10 miles under speed limit on the left lane holding the traffic.

[@Mycatz]

I’ve got a Honda Africa twin 2021 manual and I’m 5’9 and my inseam is 32 IN with boots. This is my first bike and I took a driving course last week. And now have my license. The bike is so huge and heavy it’s so scary turning it. The power is fine I can go shift into second and come to a clean stop. I practiced going up and down a hill no issues and stopping at an incline and going without rolling backwards got all that down. Got onto the road and practiced going and turning around within two lanes to the left and right but it’s so scary I don’t think I am going to be able to master it on this bike. In class I was doing circles at 25 mph no problem. I guess I’m gonna pay it off and sell it to buy a new one maybe I’ll be riding in a year if I’m lucky.

[@Mycatz]

Had to edit this my inseam is 32 IN with boots. But I ordered a kit that’ll lower the front and back 50 MM and a seat that takes off 30 MM So between the two I should be good. And Honda said it wouldn’t void my warranty.

[@jordanbodnar4632]

I am getting a cbr1000rr this year as my 3rd bike. This is going to be my first sports bike.

[@cameron_hancock7]

As much of a thrill seeker I am, and as crazy to a lot of people I may seem because of my rodeo career, the statement you started making at 8:08 all the way past “smiles per gallon...” just saved me from buying a liter bike for my first bike. I just like having fun doing things that seem as exciting as riding motorcycles. I rode dirt bikes in my youth for quite a while, but I know it’s a totally different ball game still. Eventually of course I would LOVE to get a liter bike. But in doing my research, I have found beginner bikes now do seem more fun than when I started looking at motorcycles 10 years ago. Now I’m grow and can “do what I want”😂 but you seriously just helped me be responsible and have a better chance at coming back home to my kids every day. Thank you bro!!💯🙏🏽🤘🏽

[@robinhanna4286]

I bought a Yamaha R1 2020 model and i dont even have license. But i will take it now. True story

[@noctivagance_imagery]

I have a gsxs 750 atm but I kind of lust fairings again after some significant highway use lol(rode an R3 before upgrading). I've been wanting a litre bike but the cost is ooofff. I think given the newest model bikes all have electronics(traction control/abs/etc) it does make sense why manufacturers would want to cut costs and push people to buy the litre versions since they DO have those modes that basically reduce the bike to a 600. It made more sense in the past for sure to have both since they didn't have electronic aides.

[@RussianBearBiker]

What about old litre bikes ? Without ABS . Traction control and Modes ? I don't think it's better to take litre rather than 600cc

[@motoremedy986]

I started on a Harley but my passion is sport bikes. I am sick and tired of switching vehicles and dealing with the government and I’m wanting to get a liter bike and be done with it.

[@D_NaZ]

I just started on a cbr honda 1000 I was a little nervous but I'm good now o don't even get off the bike my wife ask me when I'm coming home 🤷🏼

[@orangeslice5527]

Here in germany we have diffrent licenses for diffrent ages so you are forced to ride a specific amount of HP and ccm depending on your license, so in my opinion I think it's kind of weird that the US allows 16-18 y/o to start on litre bike

[@DrewsR6]

I started on a 250 and sold it 2 weeks lol, got a sv650 loved it so much I bought another one, then I got a cbr600rr and I was amazed how fast it was, now I own a gsxr 750 2009 and I love it. I pretty much love every bike honestly I appreciate theyre unique qualities

[@chrisgardner6249]

I actually started on a R3. I'm a responsible guy though and probably could have started on a R6. but the R3 allowed me to make mistakes without it biting me in the ass and I could pull back the throttle and still have some fun with it. I plan to get a R6 next even if it is discontinued, still a sweet bike and plenty of power for the road still. (I'm no Rossi haha) I would like to get the R1 one day but it's mostly cause I want that crossplane under me haha!