Motorcycle Crash Bars, Crash Protectors - Are they really worth it?

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@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
If you want to learn more about the long motorcycle trips check the rest of the videos in the channel or by my book: "How to become a better long distance motorcycle rider" rtw-adventures.com/books-1.html
@runplatypus
@runplatypus 7 жыл бұрын
Your English is good, no need to apologize. Thanks for sharing wisdom and experience! 👍🏽
@StickerMedia
@StickerMedia 6 жыл бұрын
+1 on that!
@dsolin
@dsolin 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks for the video!
@ZZ-iw7gf
@ZZ-iw7gf 5 жыл бұрын
Your english is the key of the succes of your YT channel becouse it is understandable for most of people, who learned even basis english. If you spoke clear british english, I (and probably thousands of other pepole) would turn off the channel after first minute.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 2 жыл бұрын
Your speaking is just fine. The background music is pretty bad. Wish you did not use any background music.
@tizmon
@tizmon 2 жыл бұрын
I was doing to write the same. Unfortunately there are many sad people on earth who are so insecure that exposing others vulnerability is the only way they feel alive. I think they are majority now after I’ve been seeing more internet. Only way to deal with them is to just ignore them. We are not dealing rocket science here. You are sharing your opinion based on your vast experience in a very straight forward way about long distance motorcycle riding. A not very complicated topic. Anyone who complain about uploader’s language skill in such a simple topic has problems. I can say this those who is trashing someone speaking with a lot less English skill than you simply because the topic is so uncomplicated. Viewers like your contents including your pretty impressive English as a second language skill. Anyone who speaks multiple languages know this. Another example that many talk about things they don’t know. Please feel firmly confident about your English skill and ignore all those who say otherwise. I now realize I liked your decisive tone a lot. Your kindness for the unfortunate is reducing your charms.
@sabiduria_ancestral7
@sabiduria_ancestral7 5 жыл бұрын
2:52"I talked so much and said nothing, like a real politician" hahaha very good
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed at that! But at least we can trust Pavlin.
@gdcrrll
@gdcrrll 5 жыл бұрын
Do not worry about the accent, in some words it is a bit difficult, but your english it is perfectly understood, your chanel is one of the best in giving advice for motorcycle related issues. 100 points
@mithunkartha
@mithunkartha 7 жыл бұрын
Ur English is easily understandable and content is solid..no worries there..
@PicosPaul1979
@PicosPaul1979 7 жыл бұрын
Your English speaking in perfectly fine and your tips and advice are Pro, thanks for taking the time to make and upload these videos :)
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
You are welcome any time my friend!
@musaziz1948
@musaziz1948 7 жыл бұрын
Pavlin, no problems whatsoever with your communication skills. I like it that way. No BS. As usual, good and informative. Thank you.
@GrumpyGoat
@GrumpyGoat 7 жыл бұрын
Very good comments. I am an engineer and the points you make are the same I have been making for some time now. I especially liked when you mentioned that there should be at least 3 mounting points, and that these are best on the frame. I also add that the more the mounting points, the less the load dumped into the frame or the engine. I hate crash bars, myself, but I hate damage to my bike even more.
@simon762321
@simon762321 7 жыл бұрын
I actually really like your English, the way you describe something is always clear. I think maybe because you struggle to say it, you end up doing a better job than a native English speaker, because you have to think so clearly about what you want top say, and often frame a sentence in multiple ways to cover your point. The outcome is that its easy for us to understand it. And that's the most important thing and why we watch!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I am glad that you see it that way and of course to find the videos useful. Thanks!
@Knighthawk916
@Knighthawk916 7 жыл бұрын
Please don't worry about your spoken English, it's 100% better than my Bulgarian. Content watchers who criticise probably don't speak English correctly anyway. Another helpful, Intelligent video which will give Adventure riders food for thought when searching out crash bars. All the best & keep up the good work.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Happy travels for you as well! Thanks for watching!
@victortroncoso7905
@victortroncoso7905 6 жыл бұрын
Please put. the sub tittles in.english
@rubensttxrx1145
@rubensttxrx1145 7 жыл бұрын
For me your english is the best english i've ever listened. I can undestand everything. Greatings from Brazil.
@malvinacarabas5768
@malvinacarabas5768 7 жыл бұрын
Crash bars must protect NOT the motorcycle / motorcycle engine . Crash bars must protect the FEET in the accident . When i go down , i could`t care less about the bike : all i care - my feet . Bars should be perpendicular to the engine - O or C- shaped bars , not parallel !! , and should protrude to the each side at least for 8, 9 inches . I went down on a slow , some 20m/h speed on Honda NC700 , on a snow , and stupid parallel to the engine SW-Motech crash bars did NOTHING to protect my feet . Motorcycle just clipped down and crushed like macaroni my ankle - All three bones right above the ankle are broken . First thing i do when get back on a bike - will throw away those "crash bars " and install C-shaped strong crash bars . Very nice channel .
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
I am really sorry about the accident you have! I hope that you will recover quick and will jump on the bike again.
@juanms8747
@juanms8747 7 жыл бұрын
Crash bars are also handy when you are tying your bike on a ferry or a tow truck, makes things really easy and helps you avoiding nasty scrachts on the wheels. Also you can tie auxiliary lights, or more bags! :D
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are also very useful when you have to lift it from the ground.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 2 жыл бұрын
My tie-down hooks have lost the plastic dip coating. To avoid metal to metal contact, I made 2 loops from (1inch / 25mm) flat webb from an outdoor mountain adventure company. I cut 2 pieces about 2 feet long and tie together with a water knot. Now loop them around the frame, fork tube, handle bar, etc, and no scratches. They come in handy for other uses too; setting up tent/hammock, temporary handles to lift a fallen bike, & whatever else. They weigh almost nohing and take up very little space.
@MrJasonmay69
@MrJasonmay69 5 жыл бұрын
As usual, very peactical, no BS advice. FYI, your english is not a problem. I understand everything you're saying, and your meaning is clear enough. It's more likely that any misunderstandings between you and your viewers are the result of poor listening, but that's just my opinion. 'Love the vlog. Your advice has saved me much trial and error. Keep it up. Jase
@Simonofcalifornia
@Simonofcalifornia 7 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with your English, if anything, you make it more descriptive and understanding to more novice audience- thank you. (Sort of remind me of Ross Perot ;).
@essabhatti6843
@essabhatti6843 5 жыл бұрын
Is this Ross Perot ...the chicken man of Texas ...
@martinhecht6900
@martinhecht6900 7 жыл бұрын
Thx for the perfect words again. Like in every other of your videos! Your english is pretty good and easy to understand!
@okieiam7236
@okieiam7236 6 жыл бұрын
Crash guards are most important upgrade. Last weekend i hit a deer and the rock embankment. They gave enough space to not crush my leg/knee.
@Mark-i9k5i
@Mark-i9k5i 2 ай бұрын
Some dumbbells pulled in front of me,I had to locked 🔒 both brakes in the rain ,the bike went 👇 nothing happened to me or bike except floor board 1,😊easy fix
@osimnod
@osimnod 7 жыл бұрын
Another practical episode of advice from someone with real-world experience and not a product to sell. I'll use your advice for my 640 ADV.
@ler3968
@ler3968 4 жыл бұрын
First, your accent is NOT a problem. I find your comments on different bike subjects to be very accurate, practical and logical and I agree 99% of the time (nobody is perfect xcept me). Too many other "expert" video makers tend to overcomplicate many aspects of riding just for the enjoyment that some of us want without spending another 1,000 Euros on equipment after buying the motorcycle.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time!
@mortenviking3196
@mortenviking3196 6 жыл бұрын
I have dropped my bike 2 times now! I am a old rider coming back! 30 year sins i ride . whit out my crash bars, my wallet wood be thin! So my answer to your question, YES!
@posterestantejames
@posterestantejames 4 жыл бұрын
kolle reke me too. I’m just coming back to motorcycles again after 30 your absence as well. First thing I did was put crash bars on it and I’m very very happy I did.
@renatoconsollaro3134
@renatoconsollaro3134 6 жыл бұрын
Hey new viewer here, I have a Tenere 250cc and I ride about 400km on road per week for a few months to go to work. I intalled a Givi protection bar and it worked just fine last week when I crash. They held all the lateral impact from the engine and clutch to the tank. The bike is safe! Thaks for your videos! Cheers from Brazil
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
If it's works for you than use it.
@renatoconsollaro3134
@renatoconsollaro3134 6 жыл бұрын
I havent realized you where italian until now, my nonna and nonno came to brazil in 48 and stablished their life in san paolo. Im a fan already great videos. Ciao
@sumporfuk
@sumporfuk 6 жыл бұрын
No need to apologize for your english. In fact the way that you speak is a large part of what makes your videos so good. Keep up the good work. I ride a GSA and I would never ever consider going the corner store for a loaf of bread with crash bars and all of the other protections that I have amassed on my bike. There are a few reasons for that, simply put, I crash a lot and that is not to say that I am still learning how to ride but more in the way of how I ride. The same lengths that I have gone to in order to protect my bike are the same lengths that I go through to put on my riding gear. I'm an offroad guy and I crash a lot.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
I perfectly understand you.
@alternativeperception6949
@alternativeperception6949 5 жыл бұрын
Your English speaking is brilliant absolutely 10/10 no problems understanding what your saying. You have a brilliant way of explaining everything . I wish I could speak Bulgarian half as good as you speak English
@whitedrguy6503
@whitedrguy6503 7 жыл бұрын
One issue with crash bars is if you drop the bike going slow then they are fine to protect the engine and panels, the big problem comes if you have a higher speed dismount, say the classic low side, if you lose the front and the bike slides along on its side. If the crash bars slide down the road smoothly then that is good but if they catch on something like a rock or a tree root the bike could flip up in the air and do lots more damage, a high side if you prefer. Sometimes it is better to have something minor break than have it rigid so there is no give in it. Same sort of thing they build into hard panniers in the event of a slide, the pannier will break off its mounts to prevent the dreaded high side. Nothing is perfect, it all becomes a compromise.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Correct, as I said they could be very useful, but also useless. Thanks for adding it!
@marcoullasci
@marcoullasci 6 жыл бұрын
You are right about the high side risk being likely increased with crash bars if you loose the bike at highspeed offroad. On the other side the general rule is let the bike go when you fall and with the crashbars hopefully the rider will worry less about the bike and let it go earlier for increased safety.
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 7 жыл бұрын
Each bike has its own needs and luckily ours need very little above the standard protection. Personally I use the yamaha alloy bash plate and puig lower protection bars, which copy the now unavailable yamaha bars. If yamaha think it needs no more who am I too argue? Light is right. Excellent point re the handlebars too. Happy travels.
@edman1366
@edman1366 7 жыл бұрын
You've made very good points.... I just recently slide down on my cruiser bike, and all the impacts were absorbed by the Engine guard, the crash did not affect any parts of the motorcycle, except some paint scratches on the muffler shield and engine guard itself, the engine guard was made by my motorcycle manufacturer, so they can carry a 400-lb bike easily. Moral of the story... don't just buy any third party accessories, without really studying its pros and cons, its actual application and use, including durability!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Very well said, thanks Ed!
@Hithere-ek4qt
@Hithere-ek4qt 5 жыл бұрын
The background makes it harder to hear. Please stop adding music.
@alexeym5356
@alexeym5356 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with you, it all depends on the bike! I have a ktm 690 smcr and the only thing that i have is radiator protector and slid plate. Everything else is unnecessary. In case of a crash, most of the damage is to handlebars, radiator. While one of my previous bikes, Moto guzzi got instant cylinder-head damage during slight fall :D
@geonaute8119
@geonaute8119 7 жыл бұрын
Pavlin, your english is good and the advices are clear and top notch!! Keep doing the good job and ride safe!!!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
I will, thanks!
@TO4ST
@TO4ST 6 жыл бұрын
Your English is absolutely powerful. I appreciate your videos.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brandon!
@FrilledNeckDragonUK
@FrilledNeckDragonUK 5 жыл бұрын
This video got me thinking. I rode a gs1200 normally so i downsized to a gs800 and i feel so much more comfortable like you said. Its lighter and thinner and more nimble. My next bike i think will be even smaller i believe i could go even less but i still want the comfort for distance. Thankyou again :)
@BR3AKINATOR
@BR3AKINATOR 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, my opinion for sliders is: they safe your bike for the first hit on the ground. After it will break and ur engine is on the ground. I saw that two times. Crash bars is mutch better I realise it after my crash. Just my meaning. Thank a lot for your Videos and dont worry about your enlish.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Use whatever work for you.
@TheSuperKnug
@TheSuperKnug 7 жыл бұрын
Your English is very easy to understand! Keep on making the best adventure videos on KZbin!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
I will, thanks!
@nordic9570
@nordic9570 6 жыл бұрын
A lighter bike will solve most of the issues, and I agree with you, improving your riding skills will add to protection.
@jazu40
@jazu40 3 жыл бұрын
In USA or Canada there are hundreds of accents. Everyone speaks differently and they understand each other. Grammar is more important than accent. Your grammar is perfect.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@Allosaurus-B
@Allosaurus-B 5 жыл бұрын
not biker yet, but find Your videos very informative. reason above all as usual. thank You!
@samurai2022
@samurai2022 7 жыл бұрын
hello from the uk . dont worry about your english , the way you explain in length is better than the sort answer . ive been watching your video for sometime now. me and my wife are going to buy the yamaha 660 and travel europe we cant wait . hopefully summer 2018. anyway keep the video's coming i really enjoy watching them.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
I will. Thanks for the kind words! Good luck on your adventures!
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice. My good lady and I travel thru Europe on our 660 and it's great. Carries us both all day anywhere on a tank of fuel. Very strong frame too so the extra weight is no problem. Enjoy it!
@samurai2022
@samurai2022 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the replay. And I can't wait for the adventure. Safe riding everyone
@toby7504
@toby7504 7 жыл бұрын
Got Heed crashbars, skidplate and centerstand for my vstrom 2 weeks ago an they looks very solid and as far as l can see protect my tank and headlight plastick. But i guess the crashbars hold the skidplate firmly in place so my very exposed engien get protection. Guess the rider need to loose 5kg now😊.
@tomelder845
@tomelder845 6 жыл бұрын
Please do not apologize for your English skills. Your observations and analysis are always informative and interesting! Thanks so much for your great videos! :-)
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom!
@tamero52
@tamero52 7 жыл бұрын
I love your language.please feel free. 6 months ago I had an accident with Honda NC 700x. I hit The bars. I can clearly say that givi crash bars didn't protect my left leg. I still go to physical therapy and there are many months to cover. The protection depends on the model and brand.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to heard that! I hope that you will be able to recover fast and jump on the bike again. Thanks for watching and commend it my friend!
@ichbins2545
@ichbins2545 6 жыл бұрын
That’s the way it is Pavlin, there is nothing more to say 💫, everybody can improve his riding skills with the right instructor/training/workshop, and keep on riding all the time to become more experienced day by day
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@autopdr
@autopdr 6 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Belarus, and later moved to USA. i can say that your English more understandable than most american people!!! Dont worry and make more great videos!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Pavel, for many of us, not native speaking, is much better to understand when the person who talk is also not native. The reason to understand me well is because I use much smaller number of words and try to say it properly, but my native language don't really aloud me to do it and they sound very similar to your understandings on it.
@Go_Show95
@Go_Show95 7 жыл бұрын
McrRider sending props to Mr Moto Adv. Both guys educating rider community to ride safe. Thanks and CHEERS for all you do, wh ev side of the Atlantic
@hermanboing8489
@hermanboing8489 4 жыл бұрын
On my Suzuki V-strom, my crashbars have saved me $$$ numerous times: they have saved my fairings (very expensive to replace) when the bike has dropped, and it will drop when touring. I would suggest that if one only does highway riding etc... then perhaps not, but even then, soft asphalt and soft dirt when parked will cause issues as well. I have mototech crashbars btw. They've never bent, but I've had to polish and paint them a few times.
@333gew
@333gew 6 жыл бұрын
your way of thinking is absolutely right..it's important that you deliver your knowledge and thoughts.. all the new drivers should carefully listen to you. than you!
@ColpanCeltek
@ColpanCeltek 7 жыл бұрын
Good crash bars like Touratech (I must admit too expensive) works vey well and I think is a must if you are doing many off road travel.. It really protect the motorbike and your leg. I have seen it many times. Thanks for your advices anyway. It is very useful as always.
@wavydavy9816
@wavydavy9816 3 жыл бұрын
'My bike crashes very well' Brilliant. I use to say that to people about my 1979 Z650, which was pretty much bullet proof, but sadly the same could not be said for me. I've gotten better as time has passed, but it's just reassuring to know that some other people will _admit_ to falling off a lot too 🥰 (Hence why I'm here to try and discover if I should buy some crash bars for my Kawasaki Versys 650 [stick with what you know 😉])
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time!
@iandouglas451
@iandouglas451 3 жыл бұрын
good subject, nice presentation - i am in the UK, i have a touring motorcycle, i have crash bars but the main reason is to mount lights on them to help me be seen. this is what you are saying really, to try to avoid an accident in the first place.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Preventive riding mode is way better than any lights!
@OldManTony
@OldManTony 7 жыл бұрын
Well explained my friend. I use Heed bars from Poland on my Tiger 800. Well made, sturdy , and fairly easy to fit.
@scotty2307
@scotty2307 6 жыл бұрын
I used to ride a Honda SL350. It was a fun bike to ride, on or off road. I ran it all over California. The first time I road in gravel, was also my first time off road. As soon as I felt the tires wandering around, I stiffened up, and quickly went over, with the bike pinning me to the ground. I watched my friend ride out of sight, and then reappear soon after. I noticed that he was wobbling precariously, and after he stopped, I realised that it was because he was laughing so hard. I hated soft surfaces. They were miserable to ride on until someone gave me the advice to just relax, and let the back tire do what it would do. I decided to try that out, and it worked. I never dumped the bike again, though I did drop it a few times, and I learned to enjoy that floating feeling you experience on gravel. Would crash bars likely hold the bike off the ground enough that your leg would be less likely to be pinned under the bike?
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
They might helps in some cases...
@markjacobs6294
@markjacobs6294 7 жыл бұрын
I use the stock Triumph crash bars on my 800. Nothing more. I also mount foldable cruise pegs on them so I can relax and get another foot position on long highway sections. Again, another great video.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Triumph crash bars are good. They are very solid.
@Braselton21
@Braselton21 7 жыл бұрын
There is literally no reason to dislike this video :/ I really don't understand some people Just Hatin' on everybody to the point they have to press that dislike button 0_o U MAD BRO?
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Don't even worry about it. They might not like me, my t-shirt, the wall behind me, the pillows, the accent or the way I talk.
@MyYTwatcher
@MyYTwatcher 6 жыл бұрын
It is a common mistake of drunk people. They are too confused and they think they click "Dis-I-like" button.
@aceconcept
@aceconcept 6 жыл бұрын
Heres a thought. An adventure motorcycle,with an old style frame,like the old Norton featherbed. The two down tubes coming down from the (steering) headstock would be made wider than the engine,nothing sticks out,so nothing can be broken,put panels on the side,(you cant see the engine) its fully enclosed.Its water cooled.The enclosed space could house any extra equipment your adventure may need.Air going through the radiator comes out hot,redirect this onto the rider,for cold conditions.Now gather some MC mates and beer,discuss,comment.
@robbryan3044
@robbryan3044 6 жыл бұрын
First, Pavlin, there's nothing wrong with your English. Being from California, I sometimes have trouble understanding "locals", so, if I can easily understand you, you have nothing to worry about. As for engine/bike protection, while I'm completely in agreement with your "sometimes yes, and sometimes no" answer, I'd like to add that more protection is always better than less. No one ever 'plans' on crashing, no one ever 'plans' I sliding, but, just like insurance, it's a "preventative measure". Better to have "protection" than to not...and better to have too much, as opposed to not enough. The 5 bikes I owned prior to my last bike (2006 Suzuki SV650S) had no added protection, including my third bike (1999 Kawasaki KLR650). However, because of a minor accident involving my fifth bike (1999 Suzuki SV650 "naked"), where a woman side-swiped my right-rear side, causing me to go down, that's what helped lead me to adding some protection to my sixth bike. Having purchased my seventh bike a little over 3 months ago (2017 Yamaha FJ-09, aka MT-09 Tr Acer), I decided that "maximum protection" should be the best route to take. So far, I've installed the beefy GIVI Engine Guard Bars, front & rear axle spools/sliders, side case racks (technically, while not intended as "protection", they do provide some), and s radiator grill. Currently on its way to me is an SW-MOTECH skid plate, which will be followed in the coming months by SW-MOTECH KOBRA handguards w/ turn signals, additional lighting (driving/fog lights, plus additional LED lighting on the lower forks), and reflective striping on the wheels & body panels. Most people only seem to consider "physical" protection, which is great if you get into an accident...but, what a lot of people sometimes forget is the "protection" that can help in avoiding accidents in the first place, such as things that make your bike moves visible to other drivers.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Agree
@mikecarpenter1450
@mikecarpenter1450 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Don't worry about "proper English", it's good. The more important issue is the quality of what you say! You statements are understandable and the messages are clear. Keep it up, I enjoy the information you provide.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time Mike!
@mortenviking3196
@mortenviking3196 6 жыл бұрын
You have seen me and my multi 950! The crashbars have saved me from alot of money to replace the plastik . I understand your way of saving veight!But this bikes are bilt to have a pillion around 90 kg on the back! The weight issue are only hven you fall and must raise the mc upp! After 14 days i ride my bike like a moped! Roundabouts are my favorits now! I lean like i am the doktor! And i feel good!
@ljoelmchanley3676
@ljoelmchanley3676 5 жыл бұрын
I understand your English 100%, One would have to be a knucklehead to misunderstand your speech. Excellent!
@mihaicristianandries4429
@mihaicristianandries4429 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations ! You managed to reach all the essential points of this topic, being understood by everyone.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@stefano5127
@stefano5127 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, good contents as always! I agree with everything, except the recommendation about a larger and more robust handlebar. We need to minimize the damages on the bike most critical and expensive parts. In case o a side crash, let the handlebar absorb the forces and bend if needed. It's a cheap component and very easy to substitute, even in remote regions. A very resistant handlebar will transfer forces to your fork and ball bearings. In a serius crash the weakest component always bends or brakes first, let the handlebar to be the weakest point. Great videos, thumbs up!!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Agree about the logic for handlebar, but when you have it you will feel it like new bike. Also, even the weak handlebar twist it will still transfer some force to the forks. So the question is what you going to choose - better handling and control or possible crash and the damages after that.
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS 7 жыл бұрын
For my boxer engined BMW R1150GS ADV, Bars and guards are essential to protecting the engine heads from getting cracked and have saved the engine many times.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are, as I said in the video.
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 7 жыл бұрын
One of the problems with current motorcycles is the folding foot pegs. The old system of a solid bar running underneath the bike gave excellent protection to the engine and gear/brake pedals. Sure it would get bent but it was an easy job to pull it off and straighten it. Also the steel brake an clutch levers would just bend and could be straightened.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is no perfect world. One on the cost of another.
@rickshawphilippines
@rickshawphilippines 6 жыл бұрын
English is my 1st language and I understand you perfectly. Cant see a need on lightweight dual sport. But case savers a must. Skid plate too...
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
True
@egary1974
@egary1974 7 жыл бұрын
Good point about the handle bars. Those are the first to impact the planet.
@yusvariharzairawan3525
@yusvariharzairawan3525 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an engineer with master degree, when you fall with the "solid crash bar" you will bend the main frame, your expensive motorbike won't feel comfortable anymore. A good crash bar is one that absorbs impact energy, protecting your expensive bike and yourself. after that you can buy a new crash bar.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@ulihanel4048
@ulihanel4048 6 жыл бұрын
You are 100% right... good for the seller..but it adds 5 kilos..just do not drop the bik. Yamaha 1200 has very good protection already..
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
True
@henryhawk7038
@henryhawk7038 7 жыл бұрын
You are correct. A lot of crash bars looke pretty... but when you look at the mounting points...very flemzee...poor design/quality. Thanks for the vid and taking the time. KZbin is great!
@johnkurz1638
@johnkurz1638 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I was thoroughly confused after watching 100 videos. Thanks for taking the time to address this and your English is great!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@ramishrambarran3998
@ramishrambarran3998 4 жыл бұрын
Your most salient point came in the very last piece of advice " You will feel a significant difference with you riding skills, if you just buy a lighter bike ". Many GS riders are there for the show-off factor.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 4 жыл бұрын
True
@yourfriendlyneighborhood357
@yourfriendlyneighborhood357 6 жыл бұрын
IMHO, I prefer those crash cages or crash bars for naked bikes and adventure bikes. though it may give an additional weight, but it is worth it for protecting the whole bike. for sports bikes, I prefer the frame sliders. its annoying to see a sports bike with a crash cage. Ride safe my friend.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever you like, just use it. Thanks for watching!
@hondaxl250k0
@hondaxl250k0 4 жыл бұрын
hey man im an ALL AMERICAN country bumpkin that is totally capable of butchering my own home language.. i understand your English fine.. CHEERS!
@Moranah
@Moranah 2 жыл бұрын
You're saying English is not your strong suit... Yeah it's not perfect, but neither is mine. I think your English is fine man! Thanks for the nuanced explanation.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@williamhoskins2300
@williamhoskins2300 4 жыл бұрын
Understand your English better than younger American people. Thanks for the brutal honesty, and no Adverts.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@DerpEye
@DerpEye 4 жыл бұрын
I once fell at 40km/h on my older Hornet 600, no crash protection. Scratched the motor carter, damaged the rear plastics...If i had the protection, no damage would've happened. I had the crash bars on the Versys 650, protected the bike when my friend dropped it at stand stil. Now, on the Africa Twin, i puchased the Heed Bunker crash bars to substitute the OEM weak one. Yes, it's 10kg, but the bike itself is already heavy, and it only adds about 5-6kgs overall when you remove the oem one. Considering how expensive it could be to repair the bike, i prefer to always have crash bars. And riding skills will do nothing against slippery road surface, nor electronics like ABS, TC will save you: you will go down regardless.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 4 жыл бұрын
For some models the crash bars are must.
@Panocek
@Panocek 7 жыл бұрын
I've always mounted crash protection and I bother pretty much everyone about mounting them. After all, can of black paint and some sand paper are cheaper than new engine, new fairing or at very least clutch/stator cover
@flburghardt
@flburghardt 7 жыл бұрын
I can speak from experience about the BMW boxers. Took a spill in a sudden hail storm and ground a nice little hole in the valve cover, enough for most of the oil to drain out. Luckily (??) it was so icy that the bike and I just slid gradually to a stop with relatively minor damage to the bike and none to me. Even my riding clothes were unscratched! Valve cover was easy and relatively cheap to replace - going down in the dry would no doubt do much more damage.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, as I said in the video for some bikes the crash bars are must.
@flburghardt
@flburghardt 7 жыл бұрын
The worst part was standing in the rain for a few hours and the 200 mile tow back home ;(
@elendshuraglump3620
@elendshuraglump3620 7 жыл бұрын
... absolutely correct! You can´t buy security! Foresighted driving and good driving skills are the answer. At none of my bikes in the past an also now, i ever mounted crash bars. And of course, i had already some drops, but in no case, a crash bar would have been helpful. But solid hand guards are absolutely essential. I never drive new bikes, so that some scratches more or less don´t impress me. Ride save ... as you ever say :-)
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend! The same for you and everyone else - ride safe!
@norriemasson4080
@norriemasson4080 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Pavlin and has been said your English is very good no problems with it.
@EdSchneeebly
@EdSchneeebly 7 жыл бұрын
The Transalp 700 crashes well too :) silly story - I did buy crash bars when i first got it, before I had it on the road just because I was all excited and buying it presents, but i had removed them while i was servicing it, and didnt have the time to put them on, and the next morning I slide and crash into a truck, and it did amazingly, the fairings are so strong. After I put the bars back on, i dropped it to see how it would do with them (CAREFULLY! :P ) and it does fine too :) Shit luck is that I now have scratched fairings for some stupid luck -.-' Man i understand you perfectly, no need to worry so much about that :) Speaking about handlebars taking a lot of the force - when I crashed, my forks got misaligned - they're not inverted forks :'( It wasn't a problem, it's a 5 min job to fix and I did it there because I have tools on me, but still, it's a pain. Do you have any thoughts/experience with fork braces? loved the video man, keep it up!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed, the forks braces are good option to upgrade stability, but unfortunately you can't install it on any bike.
@gronkgrunk
@gronkgrunk 7 жыл бұрын
Always spot on in giving the best advice on motorcycling!
@fredflintstone1547
@fredflintstone1547 4 жыл бұрын
your English is fine, don't be insecure about it. I understand the message that you're expressing. You didn't mention skid plates to protect the bottom of the bike from damage
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
It is a different topic
@georgetimmers618
@georgetimmers618 4 жыл бұрын
I've got pretty big crash bar on my Honda Shadow I've bought recently and I don't think the bar look nice. So I'm considering taking it off. But if it falls over it will protect the mirrors, break, gear shifting poke or exhaust from breaking, scratching or bending. Such a tough choice weather I should go for the better looks or protecting my bike...
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Whatever works for you!
@neevrocks1941
@neevrocks1941 6 жыл бұрын
Most underrated channel
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Help me to share it to more people...
@neevrocks1941
@neevrocks1941 6 жыл бұрын
Motorcycle Adventures definitely.
@barcacampnou9650
@barcacampnou9650 6 жыл бұрын
Coming from Scotland let me tell you your English is fine, l find it hard to understand a lot of native speakers, maybe due to my having Aspergers, a form of Autism, you explain things very well
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
I still think that it is much better from your Bulgarian...thanks for the encouragement!
@arturomolina5133
@arturomolina5133 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid's...i'm a 50 yrs old " Biker wannabe", and you channel is openning my eyes a lot......
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 5 жыл бұрын
Fortnine is an excellent channel also. Check it out if you haven't already. Their production quality balanced with clever snarky humor yet sensible facts is astonishing well put together.
@arturomolina5133
@arturomolina5133 5 жыл бұрын
@@motoryzen ...thanks for the advice!.... keep it up buddy!
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 5 жыл бұрын
@@arturomolina5133 * toasts hot chocolate*
@djcuro126
@djcuro126 3 жыл бұрын
I had sliders on my 2006 z1000 that saved me from losing my leg in a crash when a car t-boned me. The slider to the bring of the impact and protected my leg thankfully.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Good!
@adityarizki6683
@adityarizki6683 3 жыл бұрын
your english is clearly understood, better than mine. and i like your accent and spirit...
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@damianroughan7169
@damianroughan7169 7 жыл бұрын
This advice is right on the money! As always. Thanks for taking the time !
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@hessel3937
@hessel3937 6 жыл бұрын
i know for a fact your english is better then my bulgarian..:) if only i could speak those languages. That would be so great but for us dutchies languages like bulgarian or polish are complete abracadabra unfortunatly... great video again...i work my way thru all your channel slowly and keep finding good tips...thanks for that...
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome anytime!
@nesrinafsar6270
@nesrinafsar6270 6 жыл бұрын
Crashbars worth every penny. I had almost ten crashes standing or speeding with my sevenfifty not a scratch on my bike..😀
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Good, as I said in the video for some bikes they are must.
@perdu0609
@perdu0609 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, i was a bit concerned for my bike (Voxan Scrambler, bike no more contructed) but after looking at your video and remembering my first trip on Road40 in Argentina (and the few times i went down) i have been reassured, looking for that 28mm handle bar and handle bar protections instead...
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@prokofije
@prokofije 7 жыл бұрын
Your english is extraordinary, don't worry ! Ride safe ;)
@michaelpolkabla4750
@michaelpolkabla4750 6 жыл бұрын
You.spoke well in your explanation of the crash bars and of the rest of the parts.Thanks for the video Sir.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome anytime!
@theknivjocke
@theknivjocke 7 жыл бұрын
I feel that the crash bars on my GS:es are to protect the bike from scratches when dropping the bike while maneuvering at slow speeds, nothing more. The engine block is very strong, much stronger than the crash bars, even when the crash bars are mounted properly.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
You are not far from the truth I think.
@tedleroux7131
@tedleroux7131 6 жыл бұрын
The way you explain everything in your videos is pretty good and practical, keep it up thanks
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
I am glad that you found it useful!
@Darkest_Soul_187
@Darkest_Soul_187 5 жыл бұрын
The price is not that much of a problem, nor is the little bit of extra weight. The only problem I have is that they take away from the looks of the bike. I have a Tracer 700, I've seen it with the crash bars (the original ones from Yamaha) and it just looks kinda awkward and ruins the sporty design. The reason says buy the crash bars but the heart keeps saying no. I already don't feel too great about the fact that I installed the top case but it's very very practical so I decided to live with it.
@antoniodelgado820
@antoniodelgado820 7 жыл бұрын
Sir been watching your videos for a while and learning a lot even after riding for over 24 years... great job on ever video.... I'm a true believer on crush bars , I've been down lots of times and crush bars saved my motorcycle all the time... my motorcycle not me😁
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Antonio, thanks for watching and commend this video! As I said it's really depends from the bike and the situation.
@antoniodelgado820
@antoniodelgado820 7 жыл бұрын
Motorcycle Adventures I agree
@azlong4596
@azlong4596 7 жыл бұрын
Thank for the perfect advice. I think you are absolutely right and for me a USA guy, your English is fine.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I think that my English is still better then you Bulgarian...
@azlong4596
@azlong4596 7 жыл бұрын
HaHa you're right about that. Your German, Russian, Bulgarian and even your Spanish is way better than mine.
@benignoparaisu4869
@benignoparaisu4869 6 жыл бұрын
I used to travel with an automatic transmition bike a yamaha t-max, but then one time there is a huge uphill road full of asphalt shards, it was an old road and the asphalts are peeled up, because of the bad rocky ground i cant get much tracktion and the weight just make it worse, finally the engine got stalled and the bike just tumbled down the hill and i jumped off the bike so i dont get crushed by the tumbling bike. From that day i sold the bike and buy myself a super light weight honda crf150l and i start learning to ride on a manual transmition.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Good decision. Good luck on your future trips!
@s.tachos9921
@s.tachos9921 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for your english and the detailed talk! Keep riding! Best regards from Greece!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@martinfisker7438
@martinfisker7438 7 жыл бұрын
I have the SW Motech bars on my transalp, and they do indeed look very weak, but they have protected my bike many times. they are a little bent on the mounting points, but I'd rather they bend than the frame does. And regarding handlebars: I have twisted my tripple.tree (stancion holders) twice now, so maybe having the stiffest setup possible isnt always the best
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 7 жыл бұрын
Good points, as you know the truth is always between...
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