I have had one for 3 weeks, and just passed the 600 mi break in. Positives, Enormous gobs of power that will wheelie this thing in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear if you want it to, TCS=Off, TCS=Mode 2 or 3 and it will keep that wheel planted for you. Very solid, inspired handling and nimble enough to flip around those curvy S-shaped roads with a smile on your face in 3rd or 4th. It revs to about 6.5 grand without issue; over that, it really is not giving you all that much more, so really, 7k is a fully usable limit on Revs. In A Mode, if you want it to, it will definitely try to separate you from the handlebars with raw pulling power. However, it is completely docile below 5k and ever so linear in power delivery that everyone can enjoy this motorcycle with ease regardless of skill level. Negatives: (just a few) The seat is very hard (not XSR900 hard, but close). After 30 mins on this, the inside of your legs, and butt wants a divorce from you. Actually painful after 40 mins (they apparently make a comfort seat for $299); they should have led with that cause this one sucks. 2nd, the low beam is effectively useless, and there is absolutely nowhere to mount another light set on this thing; the high beam is much better. Night-time driving, therefore, is compromised with oncoming traffic. Lastly, the fairing is mostly useless. Wind is still blasting you on the highway straight into the chest, as you might expect with that tiny windscreen. Seems like the windscreen is there for looks only. Again, there is apparently a manufacturer with one 3.75" taller (is that enough at 75? Probably not). But will try that solution anyway. It doesn't vibrate as much as Speed Twin, so I think that is a positive, but it is not as smooth as a 4-cylinder, either. So do I like it overall? Yes, I do; It was A LOT of bike for what it cost new @$9600 OTD Price (Sept 2024) with zero miles. It is really lots of fun and feels very strong and stable everywhere. Will I sell it? Yes, I will next summer, and on to a Z900RS (with an aftermarket windscreen) or perhaps FJR1200? I need better comfort so I can stay out on the road a little longer and keep the smiles coming.
@NA-oo4ls9 ай бұрын
That yellow is 🔥
@np514862 ай бұрын
It really is a beautiful look
@ioandragulescu60639 ай бұрын
with both this bike and with the gsxs 1000 gx I can finally say that suzuki has made some handsome bikes :)
@phatsmitty9 ай бұрын
Troy, excellent review, cool bike, and very fine moto journalism... You do great work!!!
@gregtaskila71339 ай бұрын
Great Clip on this machine !!!! This is not a good bike!!! This is a GREAT BIKE !!!! Will fit all classes of riders at all levels. I Think I got the 1st one in colorado last week,and got a leg over and was blown away !!!!! Great Clip !!! And info on this, and Great job Suzuki.It's like getting 3 bikes in one:) OLd man in colorado still digging this
@TylerMcCool9 ай бұрын
I've been telling people how good the 800DE is.. Suzuki nailed the new 800 engine/chassis/platform.
@DasChristoff9 ай бұрын
Completely agree! I live in CO as well and ride a 2023 GSX S1000. Suzuki is putting out amazing bikes lately. I love my naked bike in the canyons here. Epic!!
@keithheck41932 ай бұрын
Thank you for testing safely and waiting for the track.
@glenndeason9 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the shootout of this class 🙌
@glenndeason6 ай бұрын
The "just shy of a liter, sport bike" class 😅
@glenndeason6 ай бұрын
I think the Aprillia RS660, Yamaha R7... maybe the Ninja 650? I think the ZX6R and KTM RC 8C would be too racey for these, but I'm not sure. I'd just love to see the comparisons in a shootout video.
@glenndeason6 ай бұрын
Tbh I didn't know about the new Daytona 660. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. ❤
@future629 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see this in full race trim.
@NTGatVE5 ай бұрын
havnt you yet? Rocco landers just won a moto America race with it
@slicknick00979 ай бұрын
I’m super excited to see what the MotoAmerica teams do with this bike! It’s very likely going to be my next race bike!
@njohnson33319 ай бұрын
I like the color options. I don't like the tail situation. They should offer some reasonably adjustable suspension.
@Mr_Glenn9 ай бұрын
There is a shorter tail available for this bike.
@exothermal.sprocket9 ай бұрын
A tail tidy. Not a big deal. One of the most common mods in every sportbike in existence.
@xxcommentator9 ай бұрын
I keep hearing about the problems from other reviewers about the quickshifter being bad when downshifting. I might have to wait for suzuki to rectify this issue before buying one.
@wetland30107 ай бұрын
Just needs break-in of gearbox then is smooth up and down. Like a lot of other bikes.
@judge8319 ай бұрын
Sad to hear about the crappy quickshifter. Triumph makes the best ones. Nobody can compete apparently.
@richardwarsinske70649 ай бұрын
For what it's worth my 8S is shifting. smoother with more miles.
@HifeMan9 ай бұрын
@@richardwarsinske7064 Once you go with full synthetic it's smooth as butter. I got 1600 miles on mine with a full exhaust, just waiting for my ECU to get back to see if it's even smoother. :)
@maximus94019 ай бұрын
Yamaha's quick shifter, atleast the one on a MT09, is fantastic. Perfect up and down at any rev range
@paulconnell13099 ай бұрын
The auto blipping is a bit light on the GSX 8 series quick shifters. And it does not give as smooth a shift if revs are constant. There are times to use the clutch. However for everyday riding with early upshifts it is as smooth as butter. Also down one gear at a time, even with a big jump. I had a 2020 Street Triple R and the quick shifter needed a serious nudge to change up. Way more that the Suzuki.
@exothermal.sprocket9 ай бұрын
GSX-S1000 has reported to have one of the best there is. Suzuki must have not applied the same R&D to the 8R.
@Maggieismydog5 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic looking machine and sounds like a great all rounder. Comfortable sport bike that doesn’t try to be anything it’s not and doesn’t cost a fortune. Great review and great vid as always. From Aus 🇦🇺
@bramcurtis69009 ай бұрын
I think they should complete the line like Kawasaki did with the 650 twin and make a cruiser. Same engine, 4 bikes. And this makes perfect power to be a legitimate long hauler. Just change the rear sub frame and pedal placement etc. I am sure it would sell.
@salskars66378 ай бұрын
Thank you Suzuki. Looks, engine and ergos allowing us to ride all day.
@exothermal.sprocket9 ай бұрын
It's interesting how the QS up/down isn't functioning very well in the down blip, because the GSX-S1000 has been said by many to be the most slick precise and flexible QS system on the market. Suzuki might have invested more money into the 1000cc platform in that device. Who knows.
@TheCdubbleyoo9 ай бұрын
Cheaper bike, cheaper QS. I say clutch the clutch and all sins are forgiven.
@DasChristoff9 ай бұрын
As an owner of a 23 gxs s1000 I can say the QS is absolutely amazing! Butter smooth. I’ve owned several bikes and this one by far has the best QS hands down.👍👊
@thinkdunson8 ай бұрын
this is a great review. thanks boss.
@magruderable9 ай бұрын
Love Tony's reviews. Dudes a badass!
@johnnyblue47999 ай бұрын
Who's Tony?
@BS-em8or9 ай бұрын
Fuhgeddaboudit @@johnnyblue4799
@salskars66378 ай бұрын
@@johnnyblue4799 - Troy Tony Montana. I always appreciate his reviews. Well done "Tonie"
@Chainspike1018 ай бұрын
oh man wheres the V twin? the V twin sounded so good.
@stephenschwartz74029 ай бұрын
That bike does look pretty good
@cuzimaluzer7779 ай бұрын
Where is that with the dragon in the background?
@paul.vanhout579 ай бұрын
Borrego Springs, CA
@judge8319 ай бұрын
The only thing I don't like is the rear taillight thingy. Those look terrible on all bikes. Why don't manufacturers use regular rear fenders like they do on the front?
@blipco59 ай бұрын
They should also have an option, at least, for a rack. How do you carry anything on that bike?
@ehiggins74769 ай бұрын
Regulations
@Mr_Glenn9 ай бұрын
There is a short tail available.
@blipco59 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Glenn I see the aftermarket is already on it. 👍
@exothermal.sprocket9 ай бұрын
Transportation bureaucracy compliance. Every fender has to have something reaching the zone of the back of the rear tire, if you drew a straight line from the ground, tangent to the back of the tire straight up, a fender has to touch that line. It's not the manufacturer's rules, that's the rules for selling into a transportation market.
@TieuBachBach8 ай бұрын
Hello, suzuki fanboi 😊. This bike so amazing and i think it will be a beast at mid range motorcycle ❤.
@Otto-AutoPilot9 ай бұрын
Love it, shame we don't get yellow in the UK.
@SkankHunt42O9 ай бұрын
Haha
@salskars66378 ай бұрын
truly a shame.
@UpsideDownFork9 ай бұрын
Why oh why can't we get the yellow scheme in the UK?! 😢
@LisaLindstrom-p6d9 ай бұрын
Why oh why can't we get the yellow scheme in the UK?!
@csposir9 ай бұрын
Shootout needs to include the CFMOTO 800
@CarsMeetsBikes9 ай бұрын
Man, that wet weight number turned me off so fast. Might stick with Rc390 or just my gsxr 600
@skyhighnightlight9 ай бұрын
Thank You. Awesome bike.
@korazon3spinado9 ай бұрын
The vstrom 800 re is around 40-50 lbs heavier with the same engine. I guess the bigger gas tank and rack on the back makes it heavier.
@chazlyle418 ай бұрын
Anyone comment on the ergos compared to the S1000 (or GT)? Just curious comfort wise. Looking for a comfortable commuter and short trip bike that is super comfortable, but still super fun.
@matthiashauptmann94238 ай бұрын
If I were in the market for a new bike the Suzuki GSX-8 R or S would be the way to go: Usable power, a realistic powerband for road use and obviously a competently made - albeit un-adjustable - suspension setup. Big singles and Triumph triples ruined high-revving bikes for me - my DR peaks out around 7k, as does my Moto Guzzi Griso 1100 and revving a bike out to 13k or more feels like ruining it. Some years ago I sold a perfectly running Street Triple R for that reason and got myself a Daytona 955i instead - until I realized, that 147 BHP are way too much for public roads, my understanding of a "fast" ride and life expectancy of both rider and driving license. Bikes with good suspension and sufficient torque must be ridden smoothly, keeping up the momentum. They require a good rider to go fast, but let all others survive the ride. Apart from very few really capable roadracers those 200+ HP-bikes are often crutches for riders of limited abilities.
@cookinsdabest7 ай бұрын
This would have been exciting in the 90's/early 00's, but for the love of god bring back the SV1000S
@Uninfluenceable9 ай бұрын
At 455lbs, it's heavier than most (if not all) 1000cc liter bikes sold today. Calling this a middleweight sportbike is doing it a disservice. It clearly a touring bike like the Ninja 1000SX or GSX-S1000GT, but the cut down budget version. The GSX650F or Katana would be a more apt comparison than the SV650.
@HifeMan9 ай бұрын
It's only 18lbs heavier over the SV650S.
@ItzCashew9 ай бұрын
@@HifeMan and it's mostly the emission items. A full exhaust can shave almost 14lbs off. A quick tune and the bike makes over 60lbft of torque. It Def move.
@HifeMan9 ай бұрын
@@ItzCashew I already plan on doing just that and sent my ECU out to get tuned :)
@johnsilver71508 ай бұрын
Hate the grey wheels and mirrors.
@adrianw39859 ай бұрын
I had an SV1000, it was a fun bike.
@aleksandrkleoshin60469 ай бұрын
8R is inline 2 cyl, not L-twin
@adrianw39859 ай бұрын
@@aleksandrkleoshin6046 the presenter in the Video mentioned that he used to have an SV650. I was simply saying I had the similar, but bigger SV1000. My comment wasn't meant to imply anything about the engines layout.
@adrianw39859 ай бұрын
@@aleksandrkleoshin6046 go to 0:51, in the Video, he talks about his SV650.
@IrnMaiden3048 ай бұрын
For roughly $2k more you can buy a GSXR600, or roughly $2k less you can buy an SV650 ..... roughly 10k for a 800 twin with an R moniker with no real adjustments, idk 🤷🏻♂️
@yasugi01538 ай бұрын
I think this bike and the Yamaha r7 are in a weird niche spot where the user may have come from a beginner bike and want more power but don’t want to go full 600. Plus want new updated fairings make it a sweet spot for an Advanced rider
@Sam-xt5gb2 ай бұрын
Yeah for me, I don’t want the aggressive riding position of the gsxr. But I want a sport like bike that I can commute with and take in the canyons. Price is pretty good and I think it’s a beautiful bike, especially in silver.
@markhingst53689 ай бұрын
Would have liked to see it have a little more aggressive cam profile/tune to it than the 8S. It does look great though.
@jpslaym09369 ай бұрын
Like Triumph is doing with their triple
@exothermal.sprocket9 ай бұрын
If it helps, the aftermarket has retrieved about 10 horsepower and 9 ft-lb torque. Big gains. It's a little choked up factory form but nothing that can't be fixed.
@stevebrooks86257 ай бұрын
Keep comparing it to the SV650. Go get a used SV650s for $3000 and be happy.
@rodneyhull97649 ай бұрын
Surely the GSX650F was its predecessor?
@paulconnell13099 ай бұрын
F for Four.. But yeh.
@TheCdubbleyoo4 ай бұрын
@@paulconnell1309F on that was for "Fairing".
@TheCdubbleyoo4 ай бұрын
There is no father to its style.
@paulconnell13094 ай бұрын
@@TheCdubbleyoo 🤣True. It was around when I bought my first bike in 2016. I bought a CBR500R instead. Loved that bike.
@anand3dАй бұрын
Will it be comfy for 6'2" tall guy?
@brucegill42186 ай бұрын
You said you had a Suzuki sv650 are they a comfortable bike because I'm looking to maybe buy one or a ZX6 6636 Kawasaki
@spiritualru23643 ай бұрын
You’re probably not trying to hear this especially with the price difference but the zx10r (any model 2021 and up) is the most comfortable bike that I’ve ever sat on
@gwheat23649 ай бұрын
Looks like suzuki made a vfr. Make it a 1000 and keep weight the same
@salskars66378 ай бұрын
8r is apprx 100 lbs lighter than mine.
@kevinroark58155 ай бұрын
The yellow should've been two shades darker
@tomostinato29189 ай бұрын
Pity they didn't go with an old school diamond-shaped headlight.
@TheSteveSteele8 ай бұрын
Is the 8S and 8R built in Suzuki’s factory or is this a Chinese built bike?
@sham270078 ай бұрын
Japan
@juliaroman93496 ай бұрын
What a sexy bike if only i could afford one ugh
@Steve-motorcycles9 ай бұрын
It is all low down torque, which is great. However, it has very little in the middle and no top end, which isn’t so great. It’s also quite heavy. Not a bad bike but a missed opportunity by Suzuki in my opinion. Having rode the new Honda 750 hornet, that’s how you build a parallel twin engine.
@ehiggins74769 ай бұрын
How’s the Hornet better than this?
@Steve-motorcycles9 ай бұрын
@@ehiggins7476 the engine is a better. If Honda goes down the same track and releases a sports bike version of the Hornet, it would beat the Suzuki around the track easily.. The cb750 hornet would anyway. It’s a lighter and the quicker bike.
@lifesAtrip5139 ай бұрын
Hornet isnt in America. Only competition this has here is r7 @Steve-motorcycles
@Mr_Glenn9 ай бұрын
Have you driven this bike? I've seen graphs that tell a different story.
@Steve-motorcycles9 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Glenn 😂 that’s funny, your graphs must be out. I have rode both the Hornet and the GS8 and the Honda is a lot quicker, lighter and has more character. The Suzuki is heavier, more planted and physically, a bigger bike. However, as track bike, from Stock, the Honda would piss over the Suzuki even with a mediocre rider like me on it.
@larrynorsworthy85828 ай бұрын
I like it
@monkmoto18879 ай бұрын
The tail light being completely out there kind of sucks and it’s not bad but I’d rather see some updates to the 750
@bobek92218 ай бұрын
Który lepszy Daytona 660 czy Suzuki Gsx-8r ? 🖐️
@aleksandrkleoshin60469 ай бұрын
How u can compare inline 2 cyl with L-twin SV650?
@motruthhunter9 ай бұрын
Go with an RS 660.
@spiritualru23643 ай бұрын
It’s about time they changed that crappy big headlight.
@rossdavis26549 ай бұрын
Holy cow that's hideous on screen. Jeez I hope it looks better in person.
@jamar92058 ай бұрын
😓 Promo`SM
@bluefox12factsbeforefeelin588 ай бұрын
V-twin means it weak 😂 its not a inline 😢 sad
@tarnishedsquid29679 ай бұрын
Heavier than a ZX6? Pass
@Uninfluenceable9 ай бұрын
it's heavier than the ZX10r. In fact its heavier than pretty much all liter bikes sold today.
@HifeMan9 ай бұрын
Would it shock you that the SV650 was also heavier than the ZX6? Like this isn't anything new. LOL
@lifesAtrip5139 ай бұрын
This is a street bike. Not a track oriented bike. What are you expecting?
@exothermal.sprocket9 ай бұрын
Doesn't anyone understand what torque is? This makes 12-13 ft-lb more torque than the ZX6 and makes it like 4k rpm lower.
@monkmoto18879 ай бұрын
It looks like a gsxs
@Death666wish9 ай бұрын
That thing is pretty ugly
@GhettoSuguru9 ай бұрын
Please don't call it that the sv650 looks a million times better .
@andrewbozhozr9 ай бұрын
Amin brother.
@sleeper.simulant73279 ай бұрын
Looks are subjective
@madrat51769 ай бұрын
And it’s a parallel twin vs. a proper v-twin
@HifeMan9 ай бұрын
@@madrat5176 This parallel twin is so much more fun and it also sounds way better. :) -SV650 to GSX-8S owner. lol Though i found the CP2 in the MT07 better over the V-twin, so maybe i'm bias to parallel twins and i also own an W800 with another parallel twin. If i could buy another parallel twin, it would be a KTM Duke 990. lol We meet again ;)
@madrat51769 ай бұрын
@@HifeMan So you think a parallel twin sounds better and is more fun than a v-twin? I’m skeptical about the bikes you’ve claimed to own. I’ve had both v-twins and parallel twins, and the v-twins both sound better and have way more character. Ducati’s Monster is so much better than a comparable parallel, for example. To each his own, I guess. But that was a weird response…
@serverlan76328 күн бұрын
WTF is wrong with Suzuki, they are making their bikes lamer not better..
@WheelHeadd9 ай бұрын
First
@johnnyblue47999 ай бұрын
The words "slow revving" sealed its fate for me. Big No!
@ehiggins74769 ай бұрын
Good
@exothermal.sprocket9 ай бұрын
Troy doesn't often qualify what he means by using statements like this. The engine has twin counterbalance shafts = inertia. The engine has a generally longer stroke, heavier crankshaft counterweights = inertia. It takes a little bit of energy to move weight when you rev. So what was Suzuki thinking with that? It's supposed to feel different than an inline-4 which needs 13,000 rpm to move. It's going to feel very grunty and shove you at 5-6k rpm. You won't be dancing all over the shifter, needing to do 120 mph to have fun.
@johnnyblue47999 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket 13000 rpm to get it to move? I don't see the need for such exaggeration. I like engines that are happy to revv and I love the I4s and that's that.
@GTP7869 ай бұрын
This is not a sport bike. Just another boring commuter.