GM Just SCREWED 877,000 V8 Truck Owners

[@PapaPugs]

When the lawsuit settles the lawyers will get $20M and each truck owner will get $20.

[@johnroberts4823]

Layers get $40 million and truck owners a McDonald’s $5 gift card 😝

[@Skank_and_Gutterboy]

Yep, that's the scam of the class-action lawsuit. The law firm walks with $40 million and you get a car wash. The law firm gets 50% of any judgement, it's happy days for them. For the remaining amount, it gets divided between the plaintiffs. For you to get duly recouped for a dead engine, the award on the lawsuit would have to be billions, which just isn't going to happen. Law firm gets millions, you get McDonald's vouchers.

[@goodboyringo9716]

Right, and GM will pay your lawyers under the table without you knowing it.

[@bradballard2068]

That's the way the system set up

[@ep2653]

$20 ? Why so much! 😂

[@mikeyshouseofbrakes8463]

GM should recall all of them and remove the cylinder deactivation trash. Make the engines run on all cylinders all the time. Fire the idiots who developed this rotten system.

[@giraffe8554]

Funny you think they’d want to develop it. It’s all in the name of complying.

[@jrwstl02]

I love mine. Wouldn’t want it deactivated. I have one with 187k and another with 120k. Bought both new, changed oil myself every 5K miles. No issues, works perfectly, 21-24 mpg.

[@larry648]

Thank the CAFE standards and the EPA.

[@utcnc7mm]

@@jrwstl02 I seen several stories just the opposite of yours on the cylinder deactivation

[@SevenSixTwo2012]

@@utcnc7mm He's a GM dealer and needs to pump out some fake news propaganda, lol. Cylinder deactivation has been causing early failures for a long time now. Same upcoming deal for all that "start-stop" garbage.

[@division_7325]

My husband is having this issue with his 2022 Chevy Silverado. It's burning oil, and the checking engine lights keep coming on. He took it to the dealership cause it's still under warranty, and they refused to fix it. Will NEVER buy from GMC again.

[@bordereau1]

File a Lemon Lawclaim.

[@missulu]

You need to speak to Steve Lehto in Michigan!

[@BB-rs4sb]

Trade it in

[@frostcb2]

Tragically gasoline will be going up significantly along with car maintenance because at 30% EV sold, the price of EV will be less than ice vehicles who wants a gas, guzzling maintenance nightmare certainly not your kids they will think of you a fool.

[@truth0149]

Hire a Lawyer threaten to Sue .

[@davey5586]

Cylinder deactivation is just stupid.

[@jrwstl02]

@@davey5586 Why stupid? It’s a mechanical advantage that improves fuel economy. You realize the first fuel injection units were quirky and suffered from problems and bad publicity. Today….ALL vehicles are fuel injected, even lowly 4 wheelers, side by sides, and lawn tractors.

[@davey5586]

@@jrwstl02 MPG, WHO CARES!!

[@RalphRacc00N]

@@jrwstl02 because the engines with it fail. its a failure. its not worth the fuel savings if it breaks all the time. this has been a failure for 20 years or longer if you count the 8-6-4

[@RedEyeC]

@@jrwstl02 - this particular cylinder deactivation is stupid because the engineers who created it just destroyed GM's future.

[@jrwstl02]

@ Im a long time GM buyer, and when I need a new vehicle, it’ll be a GM. If there was something better, I’d buy it.

[@joshskalicky779]

$7500 to replace Half of the Lifters ?? Clown World

[@Cybersawz]

Should be the whole engine for that price!

[@EgGu-l9y]

That's garage should be ashamed of themselves taking advantage of someone like that.

[@garyfernandez8513]

I don’t buy why Tundra dropped the V-8 and the V-6 in the Tacoma. Nissan still has the six in the Frontier and the eight in the Titan. Totota is simply trying to cut costs and it’s coming back to bite them.

[@stevewhitney260]

​@@garyfernandez8513government restrictions is why manufacturers are going smaller motors with turbos

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

​@@garyfernandez8513Nissan is soon to be owned by Honda! Japan is forcing the merger...

[@richki.24]

if you spend close to $100,000 on a truck that's insane ...

[@geoh7777]

I wonder how many $X,XXX,XXX the clown was paid to lead the "team" that developed this trash?

[@rustystubbs242]

@@richki.24 Unfortunately, $100,000 doesn’t buy much of anything anymore, thats the insane part.

[@raulayala691]

​@@rustystubbs242 lmao. Dang. Where do you live 😂

[@farmermiyagi1338]

As a technician with near 40 years experience, you could not GIVE me a vehicle built after 2010. They are all riddled with mechanical and electrical problems. Over-engineered garbage.

[@robert5]

Keeping my 2006 tacoma forever.

[@alvinboggs6875]

What about the Duramax LP5 ? With the 6 speed?

[@terriecotham1567]

Well said

[@AaronLuke-r9p]

You’re just gonna skip over a decade of bombproof Toyotas built from 2010-2020…? The 5.7 was THE MOST reliable half ton gas V8 ever produced period, hard stop. The Tacomas, 4Runners, sequoias, Camrys etc are just as reliable.

[@oBseSsIoNPC]

My friend! 2010 is the cut-off for me as well. Trucks, cars, tractors anything seems to have gone WAY down after then.

[@billquillin1952]

They convinced me. I'll never buy another brand new vehicle.

[@josueleyva413]

I'm out here looking for older models before the whole flex fuel technology.

[@ChristopherHyde-d1y]

Find a 1997-2001 Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria or Lincoln Town Car , the best cars on the road. I have a 1999 Mercury Grand Marquis, 173,000 .miles purrs like a new car.

[@williamrogers.]

BINGO!!!!

[@buckoshot1979]

Yes all new vehicles are trash

[@franko8572]

Sad to say, but just don’t buy American or Nissan.

[@joshuapelletier7278]

They also have a huge problem with the transmissions. My 24 Sierra 1500 SLT with 16k miles has been at the dealership since Thanksgiving for a valve body with no estimated part delivery. I've lost all confidence in GM.

[@mikegreene8285]

Valve body won’t fix it. You’ll be back. GM makes us replace the valve body as a patch. 1 in 100 are fixed.

[@topaz-1456]

GM automatic transmissions have never been great.

[@paulscobey31]

Go after your dealership about GM making your truck payments. After 30 days in the shop you can force that issue. I pushed on it and once our truck was there for 30 days they paid my payment. Ours was in the shop for lifter failure at 8000 miles and there was a lifter shortage at the time. That’s why it was in the shop for so long.

[@joehart7573]

@@mikegreene8285 I had mine replaced in my 2021 TrailBoss, October 2023, So so far so good. What is the patch for? Bigger picture?

[@tooltime9260]

What ought to be law is that when vehicles come in for warranty work, they should be REQUIRED to take parts from the assembly line FIRST to honor warranty work before they make new vehicles on the line. Since your vehicle is purchased, they already have a binding contract to fix yours BEFORE they sell new ones. YOU are the priority because the manufacturer already has money from a paying customer that has priority over unsold new vehicles. If THIS law were to take place, you can be SURE that they'd be making vehicles more reliable because they wouldn't be able to assemble new ones until the sold ones were fixed and running.

[@geraldscott4302]

I built my 1968 Ford F-250 from the ground up over 35 years ago, including the 390 four barrel V8. I have put over 600,000 miles on it since, and it still runs perfectly. No emissions crap, and not concerned in the least about gas mileage, as I have never had to make payments on it. Or do any expensive repairs.

[@jamesfmforce6790]

Awesome story, I'm doing a 1967 chevy c20 for myself this year hoping to do the same as you.

[@deborahchesser7375]

I wouldn’t buy a new truck if I had the money and I don’t lol. Find me a Ford with a 300 six and rebuild it and I’m good.

[@DwightHutto]

You can buy a LOT of gas for the cost of a new truck payment.. I have done the same thing. Don't want any of that new trash

[@deborahchesser7375]

@@DwightHutto it’s unbelievable the $ they want and it’s still junk ? Mind boggling

[@abel4776]

Prerecession cars are truly the last of the best.

[@Hawxx9194]

Sounds to me like government regulation is the real problem here.

[@InsaneBimmer]

it's ok. That'll be fixed tomorrow.

[@Theonetruegod-hw2ei]

NO, its a being cheep problem. Do you want human DNA in your food?

[@Chris-jm4zk]

@@Hawxx9194 yea and no, true that unrealistic government standards make manufacturers basically insane it’s also on those same builders to either put out a dependable product or not build them at all.

[@Theonetruegod-hw2ei]

@@InsaneBimmer lol, East Palestine sound familiar? LMFAO

[@Chris-jm4zk]

@ can’t wait!

[@human1513]

None of these vehicle from all manufacturers are worth 50% of the asking prices.

[@caleroby9483]

At best..

[@Bailey-k2j]

I disabled AFM the first day I bought my 2017 Corvette. Almost 8 years later and 150k miles, the engine still runs like new.

[@john_nip_nop]

Deactivation is OK, but you still had to pay for all that expensive and complex design, programming, and components. Like automatic stop/start, it is still built in, use it or don't. (And you will pay extra for repairs as things break - all things break.) At least you avoid some damage the systems could cause when active.

[@Bailey-k2j]

@@john_nip_nop I don't pay 'extra' for anything. I do my own work on my cars. My vette has never been touched by the low IQ dipshit mechanics at the dealerships.

[@gloriamaletta8667]

It's a shame you have to over pay for a new car then deactivate DOD so it's reliable costing you even more this technology flopped in the 80s for GM and is a bigger flop now because they come standard with their junk on it back in the 80s most were Cadillac models today every fullsized Chevy GMC Cadillac truck or SUV about the only thing GM really sells because they don't sell many cars

[@Dog-O]

Same. 3 new Silverados with issues. I put the delete on them and they ran like tops with zero problems.

[@zackjay71]

Disabling does not stop the problem. Its not the act of deactivating that causes the failure. Its the lifter design. The only way is to delete ,remove the parts with aftermarket lifter and cam. Your just fortunate to not have the failure happen. If you research this. This is what you will find.

[@Chevroletman5]

Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, Toyota, ALL of them have built GREAT engines. But NOW NONE of them do......

[@senorpepper3405]

Cars today run so good when nothings wrong, but they're so complex...and expensive. I've got a few cars but one is a '13 lincoln mks. New electronic assist power steering rack installed, $3500. Hydraulic power steering is/was much more reliable and cheaper.

[@AnontheGOAT]

All thanks to the green mob.

[@raesmart3305]

Yes, I wanted a new full size truck but I’m staying away. I looked at midsize and came to the same conclusion with the new ones.

[@beebob1279]

That's about right. I think they're doing it to force people to buy electric. I won't do it

[@DHGcrimson]

toyota makes great vehicles and is replacing all those bad tundra engines. i think in a couple years toyota will be back on top

[@peterpeterson7784]

Remember that Tundra V8 when it first came out around 2007 had lots of problems with the camshafts breaking. It is a shame that modern engines are having so many problems. Thank you for your time with this video.

[@thomasfraser7716]

I love my 2002 4WD Silverado 2500HD with 8.1L V8 + Allison transmission. 240,000 miles and no problems! I'm keeping it!

[@jgrant40]

I have a daily driver... 2002 Chevy Silverado with 327,000 miles. It runs like a top. I'm the original owner. I think the Government has forced manufacturers hand to make garbage in order to accommodate fuel milage and air quality restrictions.

[@markpowell6417]

They don't make those anymore . Chevy dropped the ball in 08 .

[@toml802]

i STRONGLY believe this is all a result of federal mpg mandates. You can only push an engine design so far.

[@alexlauria4076]

No this is a result of making cars designed to break

[@jonsmith3556]

You're are strongly ignorant lol

[@technom3598]

This from making hit cheap

[@toml802]

@@technom3598 Well, there''s that, but look at the destruction their CEO has done to that company in the last several years in general!

[@toml802]

@@jonsmith3556 Yeah, well it's easy to just call something junk and say that's the problem. Every failure has a cause. I've been fixing machinery for 40 years and working on cars longer than that. You calling me ignorant is strongly ignorant. This seems to be more of an engine management controls ruining the engine problem. They took what was a pretty good engine, (LS/LT based) and tweaked it too much.

[@steveprice5664]

When I learned about this problem a couple of years ago, I immediately installed plug-in AFM delete modules on my Chevies that were affected. I also have never run the ridiculously low viscosity oils that are recommended. These oils don't lubricate as well, they only help get slightly better fuel mileage. I was surprised that the AFM delete mod actually increased my fuel mileage and reduced my oil consumption.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Suggest you get a good dod delete kit then have a good rated shop do the parts replace.

[@robertothmer7137]

I never understood 0W20 in my last Chevy

[@MrSloika]

Back in 1981 Cadillac produced a V8 with cylinder deactivation, they all failed. You'd think GM would have learned its lesson.

[@robertmeineke2174]

But it's not gm that wants this. its emissions requirements and its not just gm despite what this story makes it sound.

[@dickywrinkler8870]

I had one. But they were easy to disable. Unplug the 3rd gear indicator on trans and it ran full 8 all the time and lasted forever.

[@RalphRacc00N]

my father had that engine in his Eldorado, Ran great for 20 years.

[@milomanx6531]

I remember Cadillac technicians always repairing those 4-6--8 engines. They couldn't make it past their warranty period!

[@jefferythomas4414]

NorthStar engines, I remember those clunkers.

[@bengrogan1992]

They should be forced to fix all the bad engines

[@gregorylyon1004]

Auto manufacturers don't want a vehicle to go 200K miles. They want to sell you another vehicle

[@robert5]

You mean the government should be forced to fix all the bad engine they forced car companies to built.

[@morpheus9281]

Extended warranty for the win.

[@Dr.Westside]

You should have to prove you maintained it in accordance to factory instruction.

[@shaun4bigblocks993]

GMs issue is with the Dexos oil. It is REQUIRED as it has an anti-foaming agent additive. If air pockets get introduced, the hydraulics of the AFM system get out of wack and bad things happen. My advice, as a mechanic owner of a 250k AFM LM7, don't rely on "Quick Lube" shops for oil and transmission fluid changes. 99% of these ships use cheap, non Dexos oil along with conventional ATF (not synthetic.) The answer is the same as is has been for years- do or have done an AFM delete or do your own oil changed with Castro or Mobile 1 Dexos oil. Issue to is 2014 and newer direct injection. So much pressure is on the injectors that eventually the tips blow off and bye-bye engine. Not much of a fix here other than DO NOT replace bad injectors with econony injectors. Direct Injection is not just a GM problem, it is industry wide. DI is not a new concept, just always avoided in the past because of reliability issues due to the high fuel pressure- but current vehicle emissions goals have automakers desperate for less than margional gains. The guy in this video is an obvious Toyota fan boy. I own and daily drive a 1992 Corolla around the country. Believe me when I say that Toyota is not the same Toyota that the current ingrained reputation expects. No automaker is spared. Everything has been junk since about 06'/08' and up. If you think you have engine problems, wait until you see what will be going in with transmission rebuild prices as the CRAZY 10 plus soeed transmissions start to show their age- replacement engines start sounding cheap. My advice- buy an older vehicle (pre can bus is a plus) and maintain it and it will last forever. For you salt belt people- drive down to Arkansas and buy a rust free older car and repeat the process as they rust out up north. Just don't buy a vehicle in the south shortly after a water natural disaster in the coast as they are usually half azz fixed and flipped in the mid-south states. EDIT: I know someone will reply "but GM trucks have these issues under warranty with dealer provided oil changes." That is a very SMALL percentage of all the GM trucks sold. GM sells more trucks than ALL of Ford, Dodge, and Toyota combined. Looking at a raw number is inaccurate as you need to look at the percentage much like raw crime statistics of a city vs per capita...

[@jrwstl02]

@@shaun4bigblocks993 Great comment, thank you! Oil quality and oil change interval are both critical on these engines. Bearing clearance, ring gap, ring material, even the cross hatch hone in the bores is engineered and manufactured to be compatable with a very specific oil formula. My experience is similar to yours. No issues with 5.3 AFM, I’ve run several to 190k. But, always used highest quality DEXOS oil and 5K oil changes. EDIT: One of my current trucks (2017 @ 120k) I just changed the oil, and the old oil was still on the full mark. It doesn’t use/burn any oil. None of them have.

[@gearheadtechnology]

probably alot of truth here.. ive seen alot of issues from people using "synthetic blends" sold to them by iffy lubes.

[@michaelsocha7068]

I didn't read all of what you wrote, but I will tell you right now gasoline direct injection fuel pressure is significantly lower then diesel. I believe 5k psi is on the higher side for gasoline direct injection where as diesel are well over 30k psi. Your comment with high fuel pressure causing failures is just pure rubbish. Nice try though

[@michaelsocha7068]

Also pre can bus??? Are you serious 😂 that would be early 90s

[@gearheadtechnology]

@ I have a 1990 GMC 1500 that still runs.. nothing wrong with that.

[@Chris-jm4zk]

Lifter failure on my 2016 Silverado 5.3 at 100k , replacing it with a Jasper as I write this. Bought used with 42k and immediately deleted AFM. Total junk…..

[@jackprick9797]

I have had good luck with my Jasper transmission in my Dodge truck, 150,000 miles so far.

[@geraldscott4302]

Did you actually delete the mechanical parts of AFM, or just turn it off with the software? You actually have to rebuild the entire top end to make it right.

[@Chris-jm4zk]

@ remap only.

[@supersportimpalass]

@@Chris-jm4zkthey still have issues unless you replace the lifters etc.

[@Chris-jm4zk]

@ new engine on the way .

[@phillhuddleston9445]

They should have stuck with the vortec 6.0 but I guess it was too reliable, no repeat customers for more than 20+ years.

[@gregpittman1700]

That's what I'm driving now, a clapped out 2500HD cateye. 2005, has some oil leak I'm trying to track down (maybe oil sender behind intake), and an exhuast rattle. But the truck Is at 300000km still going. I want a new truck but I can't justify the prices.

[@robertmeineke2174]

@@gregpittman1700 the problem is ever more restrictive emissions standards every few years

[@muddywater6856]

​​@@gregpittman1700435k MILES here😅

[@3484powerdew]

My 99 5.7 vortec with tornadoes runs like a champ

[@gregpittman1700]

@robertmeineke2174 I haven't looked at the 6.6L at all, I'm hoping it doesn't have AFM/DFM. Might be the only option for a reliable engine if so.

[@STARDUSTER1233]

Lets see if GM will replace all those engines like Toyota .

[@csinalabama73]

GM has been screwing over it's customers for decades. But they have also been screwing over governments for years by taking in funds for plants then rapidly shutting them down. They know the V-8's are bad but the only thing that matters is the quarterly profit.

[@Psichlo1]

Shareholder and executive profits. The insanity is that people are climbing over each other to spend almost 100k to buy these PoS's.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

All auto companies are now screwing us. You can thank the govs pushing emissions standards which actually affect fuel economy in a negative way. This crap started with the 2008 year model release.

[@okienightstalker3145]

So the Feds tell GM you have to be more fuel efficient at all cost and then tell GM you will fix every motor that fails because of fuel saving measures. The early 2000's 5.3 motors were really good...

[@dogie8c]

Also their 4.3L Vortec V6 engines were great.

[@Okunigger_Volker]

Yes. I use to work for Subaru of America and they told us that by 2045 the fed wants the entire lineup to be 100% electric. They don't care, they'll force this change and I don't think anyone cares to stop them.

[@DesertAdventureRC]

The 2000s 4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L Vortec were BEAST engines!

[@teecee1980]

Agreed. I just finished changing the oil in my 2004 Silverado 5.3L, with 268,000 miles. My engine doesn't have all that tree hugger technology, so it's alot quieter and runs like a top!

[@martinrascon1350]

ORIGINAL 1980S ENGINES WHERE BETTER

[@guywerry6614]

I have a nephew who was saying that most of the issues with the twin turbo Fords can be avoided if you let the truck RUN for 5 - 10 minutes after towing something. This allows the turbos to cool down after being under load. If you shut the truck down immediately after towing the oil gets burnt off of the turbo shafts and then when you start the vehicle the turbo shafts are turning on bare metal. I have stayed with the 5 litre v8 myself.

[@brandonlee8400]

👍I learned this from a street racer that had an eclipse he turboed and would always let it cool down.

[@mikeking1870]

The worst part is nothing is getting done in the lawsuit cause somebodys gettin paid

[@rosscrider6144]

Like how GM paid out the class action that was brought against their transmission. GM owes me about 8 grand for my lifters and camshaft after my lifter failure.

[@jeffgossard1451]

Lol mine did it twice im a chevy guy but totally disappointed with it .2010 silverado​@rosscrider6144

[@EdwardHixson]

The lawyers get paid, the actual customers will get table scraps.

[@CowgirlBlues-yd4hs]

@@EdwardHixson Just heard about the class action lawsuit…didn’t know about this. Do you know how a Chevy vehicle owner with flex -fuel ( switched from eight to six cylinders)…automatically. Has lifters sticking ) would get in on that class action ? Or is it too late?

[@EdwardHixson]

@@CowgirlBlues-yd4hs the flex fuel doesn't have anything to do with the lifter failures. As far as I know flex fuel works just fine, never heard any different. There is (was) a class action lawsuit against GM over the lifter issues, but I don't know the results. Frankly I don't care, I know that on class action law suits the plaintiffs get peanuts compared to the lawyers so I never even bothered to check. Not gonna spend alot of time for a check in the amount of $15.32. lol.

[@chuckanderson888]

This is what happens when you force car makers to make garbage products to appease emission regulations

[@d.p.9567]

This is what happens when you dont stand up for CARBON. The molecule of life we need MORE of to green the deserts. Its plant food. Provides structure for all of creation. You breath out carbon and thus creation. This is what happens when you dont stand up for GOD.

[@d.p.9567]

@@darwinchapmam6343 Carbon is NOT a poison. Mother Gaia has a spiritual covenant WITH humans to burn oil. Its the BLOOD of earth and thus renewable. Only when we attain high vibration again can we leave oil for higher tech/power. Until then we must use oil.

[@brenthass5876]

I've been a mechanic for 42 years and I never heard of a hole in the block called a breach. Thanks for your expert opinion

[@Elementaldomain]

Might be a local term. My husband who owned a vehicle repair shop in Illinois for 25 years before I met him, calls tools by name that I have never heard used here in California and I have been a farmer for 40 years 😂

[@gordbaker896]

Lawyer speak!

[@XC797]

I have a 94 Silverado two wheel drive 350 engine throttle body fuel delivery . The older 350 engines are great . There are a few bugs in this truck but nothing like the newer Chevy trucks. The 350 is one of the best engines Chevy made .

[@davedealy8965]

Absolutely

[@richardresendez2325]

I have 05 ChevySilverado with a 5.3 the thing I have done was the fuel pump and transmission and it’s still running stru

[@ajw9172]

This is just absolutely unacceptable. These trucks should be easily able to get 300,000 miles without any major problems like this or any problems at all. Older is definitely better especially before AFM introduction.

[@gregorylyon1004]

I have a cylinder shutdown engine in my 2008 GMC Sierra. 150 thousand miles and runs great. It uses NO oil. But I actually change my oil. I only go 4000 miles and I run 10W-30 Napa Full Synthetic.

[@DonSmith-gk8gf]

My next truck will probably be a 2007-2013 Silverado wt with the old school 4.3V6. When I built my trike last year, I bought a 4.3v6 on market place. It came out of a 2001 blazer with 156,000 miles on it. The body was too far gone, but the engine and transmission was still good. Converted it to carburetor to simplify the build and it runs like a top. It now has 159,000 on it. New stuff is junk.

[@edisonschrader4046]

the newer Ford F-150 with the 5.0 L has the oil pump driven by a "wet" rubber belt. WTH !

[@andrewdonohue1853]

doesn't ford do that with the ecosport? anything with a rubber belt that is in constant contact with oil on an intentional basis is a red flag. the 3 domestic auto makers have all failed miserably on quality in recent years. i have always have had older GM cars, i still have 2 3800 powered cars that i have no intention of giving up. my newer car is a 2022 subaru crosstrek with the 6 speed manual, so far so good.... but it only has 31K on it.

[@kyledavis5474]

The 2.7 Ecoboost has had the wet belt driving the oil pump for a while now. Haven’t heard of any issues with it.

[@Liberator29]

@@kyledavis5474you live under a rock then

[@Mark-zz9rt]

I seen 5.0 with 300k with no problems

[@Boguardis]

and yet you see them with hundreds of thousands of miles.. almost like it's not an issue

[@supersportimpalass]

Making OBS Fords and Chevys more valuable by the day. Hard to beat the 300 i6, 302w, 351w, 460, 7.3idi, 7.3 PS, and 350, 454. Man those were the good old days.

[@Elmerkeith-c5g]

1993 K1500 with a 4.3 NEVER in the shop, I can fix it myself for cheap

[@PitPwny]

90s cars were also hot garbage. Sorry guys.

[@milomanx6531]

@@PitPwny Cars Yes, Trucks No.

[@PitPwny]

@@milomanx6531 no, trucks too. EFI was a joke back then, miles of vacuum lines that rot out and f everything up, $hit fuel economy, $hit ride quality…90s fords came off the lot with the gas pump in the auxiliary tank broken, new. I remember these beasts well, and they mostly gone cause they were junk, just like new vehicle…meant to be thrown away.

[@Seasniffer1969]

​@@PitPwnyweird how a clean OBS ford f250-f350 is the most expensive 1990s pickup. Outpricing most from the 2000s

[@Rhino-mt1rf]

Infotainment is exactly what I need in a truck.

[@TESPOU812]

Same problem with my 2006 Silverado 5.3L around 47K miles major oil consumption while under warranty, GM stated 1 QT usage with 900 - 1400 miles was acceptable would not fix it. I sold it immediately.

[@williambrennan5701]

and if you bought a new "anything" you would see the industry standard is 1 qt per 1000 miles. im not joking google it . Hell some turbo BMW models is 1 qt per 750 miles. Damn shame when my rusted out 1998 ford work van with over 200k uses less oil now than what ford says is normal for their new trucks today

[@robholmes2129]

that was the pcv/valve cover issue,they made a revised valve cover that cured the oil consumption issue

[@gregpittman1700]

Ugh you could've bought the updated driver side valve cover with the fixed pcv valve for 90$. Apparently solves the oil consumption issue.

[@MrKjm444]

That's part of the solution I also added a oil catch can . I emptied it out every couple weeks and it does have a fair amount in it.

[@MrKjm444]

PS I also remove the active fuel management. That was deactivated in software

[@thomashollinger1418]

They engineered them to fail in four years so you would buy a new one. Used to be, bearings would last for almost forever. So someone said there is no money in that! Lets screw the buyer!

[@Born_Stellar]

bearings are not the failure point, its piston rings and in this case, lifters. bearings still last pretty much forever, IF you ignore factory oil change intervals and keep doing them at 3-5k instead.

[@rsbreeze]

​@Born_Stellar that is incorrect, the whole lawsuit is based upon beating failures. These 6.2L motors are spinning main crank bearings and rod bearings. Many of them are under 20k miles and I've seen 2 with less than 5k miles. GM replaced the motors but it took months.

[@juicebox22a]

Let’s be honest here. GM, Ford, and Chrysler are complete garbage from top to bottom today. Let them fail and let the market correct itself. Total. Hot. Garbage.

[@sinistersilverado965]

I won't buy anything GM has made after 2006

[@charlesmckinley29]

They wouldn’t have a frame left anyway! 😡

[@sinistersilverado965]

@charlesmckinley29 I live in Louisiana, no rust issues

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@sinistersilverado965 I’m in PA 2012 with about 75k on it in 2022 and frame rotted out on both sides. Too of the truck looked near mint.

[@randyjerrett3385]

You are so right!!

[@michaelcoston1188]

Defund and dismantle the EPA and all engine problems go away. We need to allow the free market to function on its own without government intervention.

[@Okunigger_Volker]

Yeah but they want to force us to go all electric by 2045 so they will completely destroy all gas and diesel vehicles and make manufacturers swallow the cost which will come back on the customer as usual. Also I'm not kidding, I use to work for subaru of america and they told us the fed wants their whole lineup to be 100% electric by 2045.

[@Natediggetydog]

That is absolutely idiotic. Are you aware of the amount of damage that massive companies did to the environment before the EPA was created to crack down on them? Chemical companies like DuPont and Monsanto dumped tons and tons of PFA’s other industrial waste into rivers and aquifers. Oil companies contaminated groundwater with petroleum. Cars created way more air pollution than is acceptable. Some of their rules are asinine to be sure, but if you genuinely think the EPA does nothing good and should be abolished, then you’re just stupid. There’s nothing else I’d even have to say to someone that dumb.

[@rogermartinez78]

You must be 18 years old and don’t know any better!

[@David-jt9nt]

​@@rogermartinez78 if the EPA would get out of the automotive world and just leave it at 2001 emetions standards we would be fine, China builds so many coal plants per year that they now produce a full third of the entire world's emissions in less then 20 years and thats not even counting all the massive cargo container ships that burn raw fuel oil when out at sea where no one is monitoring the emissions because 10 miles before they hit taratorial waters they shut down the fuel oil engine and switch to their disil engine to get them to port but the EPA does help in some areas but they over reached and now we pay the price

[@NoNo-iz8hd]

Right on. Nothing but bs rules that creep into everyday life like boy Biden calling the shots on your water heater and gas stove.

[@johnhenke6475]

Hopefully Trump will get rid of the EPA and manufacturers can go back to building good stuff again.

[@tonyarcoraci1336]

And then we'll all go to Mars trying to save the human species when this planet is no longer able to support life.

[@postulatingspin4470]

The recurring theme in this video is that these manufacturers have been pushed to do economy improvements by the EPA that make virtually all of these vehicles less reliable. A great example can be seen on a routine basis with turbo charged vehicles, let alone vehicles that prevent certain cylinders from firing. Their reliability on a linear scale timewise is dramatically lower than non-turbo vehicles. You can see this across virtually every manufacturer. The real culprit here is the EPA. Their policies and sophomoric mandates have forced us to drive less reliable vehicles, and these vehicles can leave us stranded on the side of the road or even worse with a locked up engine. It is a disgraceful act of ineptitude on EPA’s part….so let’s sue them instead of their corporate victims.

[@CentralNH]

Funny thing my 1969 f100 v8 gets the same mpg as new trucks go figure!!

[@markhilsen2700]

There’s no way your 69 truck gets 22mpg at 65 mph on a 300 mile road trip on flat ground. Not with the transmission and rear gears it came with.

[@rileypup5959]

Your getting, 22 to 25 mpg on a 1969 F100 v8 ?

[@markhilsen2700]

@@rileypup5959 Everyone likes to talk about how great old trucks are but Im definitely not driving one from CA to Montana and back in 3 days like I do with my 2023 Silverado.

[@derriklee287]

​@@markhilsen2700who said he didn't change that stuff ya genius?

[@allanstriber5272]

I had a Ford f150 V8. This is no shit I got 22mpg city 25-26 highway... Haven't had a truck since that would touch it

[@driverain2]

Damn good video presentation. Cut right thru all the B.S. and gave me steady useable information that a man like me with limited resources can use. I am supporting 2 grandsons in my retirement years and thank God every day for both of them. He takes care of us in return. Again, much appreciated presentation.

[@mkat740]

Unless you do a delete and stop the lifters from shutting down there is no sense in rebuilding with gm lifters or replacing the block for a new gm with the defective lifters because it will happen again.

[@abel4776]

Might as well do an LS or Small Block swap and call it good.

[@EdwardHixson]

I bought that AFM deactivator online, that plugs into your OBDII port. It actually works! Trucks drives great and throttle response improved noticeably. Ironically, mileage didn't hardly change at all. From my own testing, the AFM deactivation only worked when you had the wind to your back, lol. Another dumbass thing that they all did, was make the engine shutoff when you get to a red light. I HATE that. STUPID idea, doesn't save shit! Your starter only has so many starts in it. Did they consider that? I'm getting a deactivator for that, it gets on my nerves everyday.

[@frostcb2]

These engine failures are engineered to fail in about eight years. They just happen to have been caught red-handed and it failed sooner than that.

[@brian2359]

Yup!

[@drake_leo2152]

Planned obsolescence

[@morpheus9281]

Dumbest shit ever. They can’t engineer something to break after 8 years. 😂

[@jeanpgranger5621]

I work whit fleets of suburbans, the cylinder deactivation just have issue whit the drivers don't show for regular oil changes

[@dazzle3096]

3 years ago I bought a 96 7.3 - oil changes only. Couldn’t feel more blessed in my decision.

[@felixwankel3989]

Same. Stick and dually too

[@elky82]

The real kick in the teeth is GM spending all of that money to fix one of these and only replacing half the lifters, whether the other 4 are normal lifters or not a proper job would replace all of them, especially cause its probably another 80 bucks in parts and 5 min in labor

[@J_Bwn]

Yeah, that didn’t rub me right either. SMH

[@mikegreene8285]

You don’t know what you’re talking about. In order to replace the lifters you have to pull the cylinder head off. So replacing the 4 good lifters is a lot more than 5 min. of time to pull the other head.

[@elky82]

@@mikegreene8285 no actually you don't know what you're talking about cause to do this job you have to pull both heads off cause there are 2 normal and 2 DOD lifters on each bank of the engine, so yeah, its about 5 minutes extra. Do some research

[@johngulley5396]

I have an '02 F-150 SPORT V6, with 175,000 miles. My former company furnished a van, so that is why my mileage is so low. Oil is changed regularly, have a tow pkg & installed a Bluetooth, fancy radio, nothing else. I love my F-150, wouldn't get rid of it for ANYTHING! Have been hounded daily by folks wanting to buy it....ain't happenin'....! Have an acquaintance who purchased a GMC will inform her of this video Thank you for the info. You will be #3 on my subscription list, as you have pertinent info on many products. Thank you!

[@Thomas63r2]

The death of the pickup truck market will come down more because of unreliability rather than the inflated MSRPs. The word is getting out that none of the newest pickup trucks are reliable. I am amazed that so many people are taking the risk on a new truck.

[@motorhead281]

"Don't complain about high prices... you just cant afford it!", and "Bro, my engine has 80k miles on it and runs like new!". I see young people post these comments ALL THE TIME! The reliability issues will continue on $60-$100k trucks as long as millenial attitudes remain the same.

[@Thomas63r2]

@@motorhead281 Lol! I'm not sure how to interpret your reply. I'm a senior who has owned 28 vehicles over almost 50 years (usually several vehicles at the same time; for family and pleasure uses). Tell me more about the millennial attitudes you speak of. According to buyer data, the average new truck buyer is ~ 55, which is gen x territory. I think that its been gen x buyers with money who have kept the high price truck market going. More laughs - I guess you deleted your first reply that I was replying to.

[@motorhead281]

I own a trucking company. All of my friends and business associates drive pickups. I am a gen x'er who will be 50 years old in a couple of months, and has purchased a near $70,000 truck 10 years ago... I will not be making that mistake again. From my experience, most of my Gen X friends have already "been there and done that"... we have the means to buy expensive new trucks, but are tired of getting the shaft! The Millennials I know listen to hip hop music which glorifies materialism above all else... their generation views expensive purchases as status symbols, and this includes unreliable modern pickup trucks. This is the attitude that needs to change before the industry will change.

[@Thomas63r2]

@@motorhead281 The millennials you know are an odd lot. I understood that millennials are known for valuing experiences over possessions and not valuing hard work. I do agree that many buyers of pickup trucks and SUVs are status conscious.

[@johnyuhas4641]

High MSRPs + manufacturer defects+Biden inflation= no way Jose

[@johnrank3079]

Did you ever think the manufacturers just don’t want to make reliable trucks so we have to buy vehicles more frequently?

[@caleroby9483]

BIG part of.... It. Greed.....

[@BB-rs4sb]

I think covid was a big part of it. Shortages cause manufacturers to source & I think that why so many issues

[@kingjames1586]

Planned obsolescence is very real

[@Darbman62]

That is why every bulletproof engine has been replaced due to "emissions."

[@BooDamnHoo]

There's a kit called AFM Delete that totally eliminates the fuel management lifters and valves, replacing them with normal lifters and valves, as well as replace the high pressure oil pump that goes with it. Probably a LOT less expensive to replace the system before there are any problems and damage done. I'm sitting on a 2014 Chevy Silverado with AFM and 56k miles. The grenading of the engine typically starts making an appearance at around 70k, on average. As it is I bought an engine tune computer and have disabled AFM entirely in hopes of delaying catastrophic failure.

[@Grumpy262]

The sad thing is I bought a 1999 Chevy Tahoe back in the day$25,000 out the door still have it and still running 326,000 miles, now today .... nothing but expensive 💩💩

[@englandtra]

All these problems stem from the government telling manufacturers how to build their car dodge has all the same problems

[@joejoseph00]

We have a 2014 5.3L v8 and the cylinder deactivation and it works flawlessly. 277,000 kilometers and will have over 300,000 kilometers on it by june and the motor runs like new! We also had a 2022 Yukon XL with the 5.3L , similar technology, no issues, traded it in on a diesel 3.0 duramax Suburban which we also love!

[@willthebeast8002]

Bought a 2012 Toyota Tundra Platinum New. Now at 140k ish miles, ZERO issues, just regular maintenance etc. It's a Tank.. Best purchase I ever made.

[@justjackfromsc]

I have a 2008 with 235k on it. It still runs like a banshee.

[@rand8355]

I wish they still made Tundras like that.

[@Getusom]

I drive my 19 Silverado in L9….this deactivates the DFM and the gas mileage isn’t really different than running in regular drive

[@lindajazanhampton7882]

And we are on our third trip into the GMC dealership for this problem. They done replace one side. Didn't change the other side. Went in a second time for a tick and they didn't really do anything. Now it is popping on crankup with same symptoms as when the first side collapsed.

[@DigitalBenny]

This is exactly why I bought a 2006 GMT800 GM vehicle. The last year before all of this bullcrap started.

[@billpimentel-vm6cu]

My 03 sierra has 200,000 and runs awesome, granted on the 3 trans but bought a replacement from Monster Transmission with a way better warranty than GM would ever give you. Truck owes me nothing. Never paying 80,000 for a truck, not even 30,000.

[@EdwardDean-z4f]

I have a 2006 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab with 200,000 miles no problems so far.5.3 .

[@abel4776]

And beautifully designed, organic, natural. No radical wedgy edgy designs trying to look different from everybody else. Love my GMT800 NBS Suburban. Just did a diesel engine flush with oil catch can and revised driver valve cover with 1/4" pilot hole, etc, Running like swiss watch.

[@toddprater14]

The gmt 900’s with 6.0(2007/08) and 6.2 (09-13) don’t have afm the 5.3 did starting in 07’… Escalade & the Sierra -Yukon denalis got the 6.2 early in 07’ (instead of 09’ for the lower trims )…the full truck run 07-13 no afm 6.0/6.2…suvs afm free years 2007-2009 suv 6.2 started afm in 2010 with the l94…

[@abel4776]

Great list.

[@JDale56]

Blame the government for requiring all that crap in the engines.

[@thearcher1740]

Yes how dare the government want to lower emissions so less toxic gases go into the air & into our lungs. What a horrible government.

[@FiremanBrian2010]

Blame a liberal government for this nonsense….all this climate BS

[@fredfriendly3452]

Yeah, we should still be driving cars that get 6 mpg and belching so much smog that we can't see our neighbor across the street! #Felon47

[@rileybow8030]

Yea science denial will get you real far​@@FiremanBrian2010

[@rocknewtonfilsterwilly7364]

Blame democrats to be more accurate, starting with the illegal.

[@brandonpeddle5308]

My 2024 GMC Sierra 1500 AT4x with the L87 6.2L is currently at the dealership waiting for a new motor. While driving on the highway, the engine seized and shut off, almost causing a collision with a semi truck. There is no ETA on the new motor as they are back ordered. Not only was I put in an unsafe situation because of the truck, but now I’m paying for a truck for an undisclosed amount of time for something I can’t drive and use for work, making me lose money. On top of these issues, they will just put the same motor in the truck and this issue could happen again and there is absolutely no guarantee that it won’t happen again.

[@ricardoroeschgalvez3725]

Excess of regulations is the culprit on all this failures. Deregulate all the stupid regulations for "green" stupidity must go.

[@MapleNachiman]

my 5.3L in my 2010 gmc sierra died for the AFM issue. They didn't do anything about it. I put a remain motor in without the AFM and haven't looked back.

[@monstertrucker35]

Why only the L87? Why only as far back as 2019? I have an ecotech 5.3 2017 Silverado, 8L90e. I’ve had BOTH issues, transmission shift issues, and I’ve had to personally do an in-frame fix to my own truck. Had a lifter die and take out the cam back in 2020. I think this issue is well before 2019 and goes back as far back as 2014 if not further.

[@robertcollins4663]

Shh, we're blaming the EPA

[@johnday4883]

GM needs to fix this issue on the 5.3 6.2 and transmission problems the AFM and DFM

[@bobby3944]

How much you want to bet that they will just continue to ignore the issue and then when economic times turn bad for them they will request a bailout.

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

This is the worst part about GM. Already they had transmission issues with their trucks ...

[@David-jt9nt]

the 10 speeds arent to bad, but no 8 speed has ever been any good

[@JRB22144]

I have a 2015 GMC Yukon Denali 6.2 liter V8. Has 110,000 miles 8 spd . Hasn't had the AFM/lifter failure .... yet, but if you put the trans in M and shift it to M7, it disables AFM which allows the SUV to run like a 7-spd auto tranny. Since the v8 to V4 only happens occasionally under no-load throttle, usually under M8, this is an easy way to circumvent the problem and has a negligible effect on gas mileage and engine RPM lifetime totals and, hopefully, removes the 4 CYL lifter deactivation issue which is causing the sporadic engine failures. For those w/ 10 spd trans (newer than the 2015), I think the same procedure works allowing you to run in M9.

[@dhandmg]

I have a 2021 yukon with the 6.2 and 51k miles, but getting pretty nervous about all the horror stories. At 1:20 with the sound of the bad lifters. For someone who knows what they are listening for.....Is it the kind of clicking noise that indicates they are failing, or that weird whoop noise??

[@broeheemed32]

Curious how the more "advanced" cars become, the more unreliable they are. The newer the car, the more rubbish it seems to be. I can't imagine the shame and humiliation people must feel when they spend upwards of $100,000 for a loaded "truck" just to have it fall apart in their driveway.

[@crazydaze1050]

Been thinking about getting a different truck. But I've got a 96 Silverado with the 5.7 vortec . Guys this engine is bulletproof. It's only got 116000 on it. The interior looks like new yet. People beg me to sell it. Only thing is that it's getting the usual rust. Not terrible like others out there around that era ,but needs some body work. Only gets 13 or 14 mpg but damn does it run. So what do you guys think, fix it up or get a different one?

[@Dex99SS]

First off, that guy saying it's not AFM this and that, then saying it's a bad lifter... that is an AFM failure, it's the AFM / DFM lifters that fail. The saddest thing is though, that it's not JUST these vehicles that are affected by these issues... it's not JUST the L87 / 6.2L V8, it's every V8 since 2007 that has AFM/DFM, which was ALL engines by the 2014+ era... So ALL 2014+ 5.3 and 6.2 engines are truly affected by these lifter issues. Also, same exact number of vehicles are affected by the torque converter issue... again, they are only focusing on the 6.2 paired 8 spd tranny, whereas the 5.3 paired 6 spd also suffers the EXACT same converter failures as the 8 spd, just as frequently... But for some reason they don't seem to want to acknowledge that it's literally every single truck / suv sold since at least 2012/13. This all being said, these trucks can and do still make it to the 250-350k odo mile markers, though it takes far more meticulous care being given to them... Early oil changes with the called for 0w20 high grade syn oil, trans flushes and fills on target mileages, etc... Not as often as the GMT8XX era (2001-2006 GM truck / 5.3/6.0 LS era), before AFM/DoD, before VVT, before DI, before the 6 and 8 spd trannys... This was the last SOLID era that WILL make it to 300k + with fluid changes alone... then the government stepped in and forced manufactures to KEEP adding more measures to save fuel as well as reduce emissions, they are literally FORCED to employ BS measures, every model year, to the point that it's just KILLING reliability. Direct injection sucks, VVT added nothing more than allowing high compression engines run low octane fuel, not REQUIRING premium... AFM/DOD/DFM hasn't done anything to save fuel / improve mileage... anyone who's eliminated it and then observed the exact same MPG knows that much. But they're still FORCED via the government to include it, less they have to price up the truck to make up for fines placed upon them for not meeting strict epa standards. It sucks... a whole lot. But it's not entirely GM's fault, that's for sure. If it were up to them, they'd likely still be making a variant of the LSX, with sensible power improvements, and zero BS cylinder deactivation type items.

[@clintpeterson9028]

Mine failed do have afm

[@EdwardHixson]

There is a manifold (called VLOM) that feeds the lifters with oil, sometimes it gets clogged up. That's what causes the lifters to stick. This happens when people try to get cheap and put whatever oil that they feel like paying for. BAD MISTAKE. Use only the best synthetic oils and stick to every 5,000 to 7,500 miles.

[@JCT442]

If I was in the market (and I'm not), I'd lease. Best to lease and give the POS back to the clowns who built it... I'm the original owner of an '87 442; the only thing I did to the engine after 38 years and 124K miles was rebuild the Quadrajet. It's a shame what has happened recently to the V8 from any number of manufacturers.

[@juicejuice11550]

Thank you for giving me confirmation. I couldn't decide on whether or not to lease or purchase. I will definitely be leasing. I have a 2002 Tahoe and is still running with the original engine. I will not be getting rid of it and will be giving it a full renovation.

[@andrewdonohue1853]

yeah so they can limit how much you can drive the car, you have a continuous payment until the end of time. i would not buy a newer GM product. i have a bonneville SSEi with the 3800 supercharged and a 97 grand prix with the L36. i do not drive those in the winter, i know the salt will eat them. i drive a 2022 crosstrek with the 6 speed manual in the winter, and so far it has been a very reliable car. i have had not issues, just oil changes.

[@RoadieWingZZ]

Sadly, you still have to pay for maintenance and any repairs outside warranty coverage repair during a lease. You could still be on the hook for thousands and own nothing when the lease ends. It’s a tough call.

[@fit4ya1975]

@@andrewdonohue1853 I miss the red dash on the Pontiac's. I had a 14 Sierra with that red gauge cluster and loved it. I wish they would bring that back.

[@Kyle-bb9zp]

Yep GMC Dodge Ford they are all going down

[@GDFSTi257]

Yep, I ordered a ‘23 Tacoma in August 2023, one of the last batches delivered before the turbo 4cyl ‘24s arrived. Super happy with that decision.

[@44hawk28]

The active fuel management system nor will the dfm system cause a catastrophic failure of the bearings. This is a new feature and just the last few years and I believe it's probably an assembly line issue where the bearings are not being put together with the right bearings or they're not being assembled with the right torque specifications. Given that you're talking about 877 thousand trucks and that's only has 39 reports. My guess is that this is an occasional anomaly with the assembly procedure. For years General Motors has been putting the ring gaps on these trucks at 030 so the engines that I've had apart and put back together it's no wonder they're drinking oil. In a normally aspirated Street engine .030 is almost twice the size of cylinder Gap that should be on that set of Pistons. The active fuel management and dfm systems can cause failure of lifters. But that will not cause an inspection window to suddenly show up in the crankcase. You also fail to mention that they're also about to get a recall on those 10-speed transmissions. There's no reason for them to be on the vehicle.

[@muddywater6856]

Foaming oil and metal debris from the cam/lifters is what I've heard. Tolerance issues wouldn't surprise me either though.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

I love these videos because they continue to remind me why I am glad I bought a 2018 Toyota Sequoia for the wife and kids, and a 2021 Toyota Tundra brand new for me. Thank God they have the legendary iForce 5.7L V8.

[@snoman003]

My 2017 Sierra 5.3 had the exact same sound. It sounded like a sucking squeak and when a GM tech heard it immediately told me lifter failure. The truck was just out of warranty and after some discussions, GM corporate agreed to cover half the cost and in the end it cost me $3300 cdn after tax. Apparently the dealer actually replaced all the lifters with the latest updated fix. It is very disappointing to see the investigation will only go back as 2019 vehicles. Knowing what I know now, it would have cost the same to just bite the bullet and go with the AFM delete kit and cam kit from someone like Texas Speed or similar aftermarket supplier and been done with it, with a HP upgrade and better sound to boot. Lesson learned.

[@davey5586]

Quality control is another phrase that means nothing nowadays. I will stick with my older well maintained vehicles.

[@matt9c1]

There's a huge difference between Toyota's turbo engines and Detroit. Toyota stands behind their product and will make them right. Detroit has never done that...ever. With that said, I have full confidence in buying a turbo charged Toyota.

[@wario1015]

This is why I bought the 5.7 Hemi. It’s been around for a long time and is known to last. Nowadays anything brand new is crap.

[@MrKitty-zv3dl]

Premium prices for junk.

[@ftffighter]

It's a giant cash grab from the ultra wealthy. They're siphoning it out of the US and into their pockets like they're doing with a bunch of other countries.

[@stevechandler963]

AFM..... worst idea in an engine ever......GM should be ashamed ..........it's sad that they covered this up for years. auto manufactures have forgotten how to build a quality product anymore.....I've been in this industry for 45 plus years and have not seen anything this bad since the late seventies......

[@Born_Stellar]

its to try and meet federal emissions regulations.

[@David-jt9nt]

the feds forced them to meet emissions standards and AFM was the solution they came up with to meet said standards

[@davidpowell3347]

Several brands and engines have these harebrain cylinder deactivation schemes

[@cptbluehawk57]

@@davidpowell3347fords 5.0 has something similar but theirs is much better and more reliable then chevys

[@jack00499]

My 2018 Chevy Tahoe has the Cylinder #1 AFM Lifter failure, since October 2024. I bought the AFM Delete kit, so I'm hoping to get my truck functional again soon with time (bought a used 2007. As you said, I doubt that Chevy will fix my truck, so I'm ready to take on this project. I had the 2004 Chevy Avalanche with good reliability, so I made a mistake by selling it for the newer Tahoe, thinking it'll only get better. I was wrong, and I overlooked the issues in 2018 when I bought it. I'm hearing it only gets worse with dynamic AFM since more cylinders go into AFM mode. My truck has less than 90k miles.

[@erikferrar3453]

I have the same truck. What and where did you buy the kit? A ton of places sell them, just wondering which one you bought

[@greenf7postlake]

I just switched from RAM to Chevy for displacement. 6.2 GM engine in 1/2 ton as opposed to having to buy a 3/4 ton RAM to get a 6.4 hemi. DFM deactivated in the first 150 miles on the new Chevy, and bought the extended warranty for piece of mind

[@jrwstl02]

@@greenf7postlake Deactivation voided your warranty??

[@nathansampson4162]

I deactivated mine on my 2013 with 5.3L, just turned 181,000 and no issues!

[@greenf7postlake]

@@jrwstl02 device plugs in and unplugs easily, and does not permanently or trace-ably change programming. It will be removed anytime the truck goes to the dealer. Range Technology makes it.

[@jrwstl02]

@@greenf7postlake Thanks. I didn’t know that part about un traceable.

[@mikegreene8285]

@@greenf7postlake you are incorrect. The vehicles computer keeps track of and will report the modification to the tech who plugs into it. We can even run the vin# on your Ford while you’re driving it and see what codes are being set. Thank your government for this.

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

Just buy a reliable Silverado 2500HD with the L8T 6.6L gasoline V8. No AFM/DFM, no turbos. Just a simple V8 engine.

[@cptbluehawk57]

Go buy a super duty then. Get the 7.3, simple reliable pushrod v8

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

@@cptbluehawk57 nah, it’s a Ferd

[@bryanhall5273]

I just had my '24 Trail Boss 5.3 10-speed towed to the dealership yesterday. While driving it slowed way down and wouldn't gear up out of 1st and wouldn't go into reverse either. Only 9k miles, not even wore the first set of tires off of it yet. After looking into it there's a big issue with the valve body being bad.

[@chadhaire1711]

Nissan Titan never looked so good

[@MotorFeed]

Truth!

[@barrywilliams991]

And Nissan is about to go bankrupt and be absorbed by Honda. Nissan CVT's are complete crap because they are not fixable ... only replaceable. Nissan will be better being a badge engineered product of Honda for sure but it won't help Honda's bottom line to be forced to absorb the company.

[@Press1for]

Yup

[@Hoppy1571]

Please be on guard before getting involved with a Nissan and especially those Titan’s.

[@07z51]

After purchasing a new 2020 gmc half ton that had 8 speed trans issues, I traded it in on a new 2021 gmc 2500hd with the duramax and 10 speed allison. Loved that truck. Trans recall on that one. Rear wheels could lockup while towing. Sold it back to the dealer. I purchased it from, then found a used 2023 loaded Titan Pro X4 with 9000 miles. Awesome truck.

[@charlesmckinley29]

2007-2013 Silverado frames weren’t painted and the wax coating was easily damaged and the frames rusted out!

[@EB-ss3or]

And they still are. The brand name is "NoxRust" but GM probably uses a cheaper equivalent. Basically rhe same coating GM has been using since the 1970s (or earlier)

[@milomanx6531]

In rusty States only.

[@91CTD]

I have a 2020 Sierra 1500 with a 5.3L and i have ran Mobil 1 5W-30 in it since the day it was new. It now has 142,000 miles on it and it's never been apart or had engine issues. I'm thinking the 0W20 oil is too thin.. just my $0.02

[@klrwhizkid]

The issue with the new Tundra was caused by a failure in quality control; casting sand was not fully cleaned from oil passages leading to bearing failures. At least Toyota is replacing the affected engines.

[@EB-ss3or]

Where were those engine blocks manufactured?

[@muddywater6856]

​@@EB-ss3orAlabama....they also make the majority of US 4 cylinder engines.

[@muddywater6856]

It was machining debris, not sand. That explanation is debated also. The revised engines changed some part numbers on crank bearings.

[@SuperCJification]

This was only after Toyota spent considerable amounts of time telling affected owners "you must've done something wrong, it wasn't us". But at least it didn't take them over 15 years to admit there were known problems.

[@barrya.6212]

@@EB-ss3or The same 3.5 turbo engine made in Japan for the Lexus applications has the SAME issue...it wasn't a debri issue...that's a lie.... NEW PART number for crank bearings proves that.

[@mudman242001]

If you remove AFM, The engines run by design, and all the problems you described are non existent.

[@MotorFeed]

the general public does not know this.

[@markreuter6929]

​My 2022 Silverado Z71 didn't have it, the dealer said GM didn't put it in because of parts shortages due to the COVID-19 pandemic. 🤷‍♂️@@MotorFeed

[@AnontheGOAT]

@@markreuter6929I wouldn’t believe your dealer. Unless your window sticker says it didn’t come with it, it probably did.

[@rci-tf2zc]

@@markreuter6929 it has it they all have it.

[@markreuter6929]

@AnontheGOAT The sticker did say it wasn't there and I asked the dealer about it and they said it was due to chip shortages.

[@Rory-vl9wg]

When toyota came out with the older engine it was comparable to the old chevy 327 with fuel injection. Chevy had 327s and 350s and 454s that were long lasting engines.

[@timr31908]

Every Chevy we ever bought brand new always burned oil.. you're allowed to burn Court between a oil change.. I've never seen a Ford burnt oil brand new... Never

[@jrwstl02]

@@timr31908 LMAO

[@prevost8686]

Buy a 2018- up 5.0 Ford and you’ll get all the oil consumption from a Ford that you can handle.😂

[@stevehisey389]

Imagine how much energy has been wasted building this trash, then rebuilding and replacing it with new parts ?

[@jayt2266]

Sounds like I'm getting a new bicycle.

[@samhill3496]

When I visit my chevy dealer there are always several engines out with new ones in crates for replacement. There have been isdues for several years with the LS series of engines. It's not uncommon to see five to eight trucks with empty engine bays.

[@Liberator29]

lol bullshit

[@David-jt9nt]

the LS engines havent been put in vehicles in a LONG time now, the last LS was installed in 2016 and they have been putting LT engines in starting in 2014 with the Corvettes and Silverados and Sierras

[@samhill3496]

@David-jt9nt whatever they call it all kinds bad

[@Liberator29]

@ you’re making shit up. You probably another Ford guy that comments on these posts because you’re obsessed with promoting your recall brand.

[@David-jt9nt]

@ the LS family of engines you could abuse and abuse and as long as it had oil it didnt care, but the LT sucks

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

Geez it's like the Hemi tick.

[@CountryCarReviews]

Putting a twin turbo V6 in a full size truck makes about as much sense as putting a semi truck engine in a train locomotive. Do the beancounters at these manufacturers know that most normal people who buy trucks still use them for pulling things? They’d rather cater to suburban dads that don’t need a truck by any means than people who own campers, trailers etc. Car manufacturers will end up either bankrupt or like Harley Davidson once was by having to compete with their own pre-owned vehicles for sales. My suggestion to these manufacturers and hopefully with the incoming Trump administration. Get rid of these useless nanny state requirements and cost cutting measures. Make cars affordable and fun again. Stop forcing EVs onto us.

[@milomanx6531]

Agree!

[@CalmOutOfChaos]

2011 to 2013 Gen 4 all aluminum LS V8s were the best engines that can last for a million miles. These new LT engines suck.

[@Born_Stellar]

I have a 2012 aluminum block, it has the collapsed lifter problem because even those engines had DoD/AFM. still need to change parts to delete it but yeah when you it its great.

[@toddprater14]

The 6.2 didn’t inthe trucks L9H (09-13) l92 07/08…it’s the reason I’m keeping my almost 15 year old 2010 sierra denali…no afm…when it rusts thru I’m looking for a mint last year 2013 6.2 Sierra Denali to replace it from a rust free state…

[@ClintPaschall]

My 23 LT1 powered Camaro failed with less than 12k miles. It was a main bearing and the installing tech told me that the factory is not torquing the main bearings correctly.