MotorWeek | Retro Review: '88 Luxury Road Trip Comparo

[@2steaksandwiches665]

The lady with the 80s sunglasses and perm driving is awesome.

[@scdevon]

Lisa Barrow?

[@GeeEm1313]

She looks like Elaine Benes.

[@g-mang-man7924]

Lisa Barrow

[@westhavenor9513]

Reminds me of my mom, in the 80's

[@2steaksandwiches665]

@@westhavenor9513 Same. With Anita Baker blasting on the stereo.

[@RockandrollNegro]

07:44 This guy's riding around in a gas-guzzling, no power Lincoln with a denim jacket, mullet and birthcontrol glasses, blasting a Motörhead cassette, looking like a soccer mom. That's 1988 mood for real.

[@alexcintas8792]

The Cadillac is so old, gaudy and low tech..I love it.

[@kamrankhan-lj1ng]

O yeah

[@abracing199]

You guys have me wanting an 80s land yacht now

[@starxlr7863]

Lincoln Town Car or Fleetwood Brougham are the two best picks.

[@goodnightcharly5135]

lt1 makes them a lil more fun

[@syahfinoakbar2227]

I'am from indonesia and i want one as well

[@Lincolnator721]

THM SGR why are 80s cars terrible?

[@seththomas9105]

I daily a 82 Buick LeSabre and putting the stiffest coil over shocks on it that I could find took away most all the float and it drives nice.

[@rexblakely8146]

I like the Town Car and the Brougham.

[@starxlr7863]

Same here. But having owned an 81 Brougham, I do prefer the Lincoln Town Car much more if I had to pick of these 4 cars.

[@luxurreview]

I’d have to agree

[@zacharyf.568]

The Lincoln contanatial looked modern for it's time.

[@jasperdilincoln2341]

even though this episode is almost 30 years old and in 1988 i was in 1st grade and they don't make large American Luxury cars like this anymore. These land yachts are still the best on the highway for comfort. I know people talk negative about American Luxury cars nowadays. But i still love the way they drive unlike their competition of Asian and European Stiff rides.

[@gorillaplays8926]

Well now that is 2023 it was 35 years ago..

[@blairbrown4812]

You could actually sleep in the back seats.

[@MrGoldenwaffler]

Makes me feel like a kid again ...from 1990.. The world has gone to hell since then. Rip

[@jshdwhite79]

At 7:40, is that guy listening to Motorhead??

[@cherkas009]

Yes lol

[@castlewhore2007]

Yup

[@maddesi2709]

Casual badassery

[@rc121crx]

Lights up a doobie when the camera was off

[@MrMenefrego1]

I still have my 1988 Lincoln Town Car, best car I have ever owned!

[@starxlr7863]

The Lincoln Town Car and the Cadillac Fleetwood brougham are definitely the clear winners here! Those small Cadillac's were never hit home with me. The Continental was definitely more luxury and much larger than the Deville. But of the 4 cars, my pick is the 88 Lincoln Town Car for numerous reasons.

[@saltyapostle44]

Gotta love it that a little Motorhead made it into the review.

[@dannyg6592]

A fun blast from the past! I had a '89 Continental as my company car back in the day. Fabulous highway car, would run 90 mph all day (when possible - there was far less traffic back then). It was very comfortable with excellent road manners.

[@nrken1]

I had an 89 Town Car, wish I still had it. It was like riding on a cloud

[@osvalcs_]

Those Lincolns were way ahead of its time. Holy God. There ain't cars like those again in these times. Sad, but true

[@j.raycunha8709]

Moms Fleetwood was wisper quiet , smooth as a magic carpet, plush as a couch on wheels.. After driving I realized my Truck was too loud, and had the exaust piped over the rear end and out the back. Later bought a Mercury Grand Marquis, as close to the feel of a Caddie, as needed., Looking back, should have bought a Buick Grand National , 18 yrs later finally did.

[@Porsche996driver]

That was a great review and show! Old school luxury vs the beginning of the front drive tech versions. Great historic scenery and even shots of the Atlantic welcoming a Nor’easter! Ladies and mushroom tips - this is MotorWeek!

[@jameswalsh6131]

Wow I had forgotten about your road trips Motorweek! Miss those but what a great episode this is. Brings back lots of memories! Still driving a Town Car and loving it!

[@jimdayton8837]

What year is your Town Car?

[@compu85]

This is one of my favorite MotorWeek segments. A great comparison of the cars, and a great snapshot of the areas you visited!

[@LakeNipissing]

1:11 = 80s epitome.

[@eastpantherbenz]

What a time to be alive!

[@pressedsteel7463]

I must say that the Cadillac is an auto for up town gentleman such as myself.........Hats off to you good sir.

[@curiobill]

Thank you for posting this wonderful snapshot of the past!! Long live the Luxo-Barge!!!

[@joebeastyg5686]

I miss my old land yacht. I had a 94 Chrysler LHS and she was gorgeous! Plush seating, decent power, and it just stood out in a crowd. I had a 90 Plymouth Laser before that and, man, what a difference. I actually miss all the cars I had growing up :)

[@bigrr64]

I love the Cadillac Brougham and the Lincoln Town car. I've owned both of these I prefer the Cadillac styling over the Lincoln but they're both great cars.

[@chrisdooley6468]

I actually miss my tape deck. I used to play taped Howard Stern shows from the previous day on my way to work in it - I used it so much the heads wore out and had to buy a new one at Pep Boys! What I DON'T miss are the days of 305ci V8s with 140hp!! Those emissions laws just strangled the shit out of those engines. I remember buying my '89 LX 5.0 convertible with 225hp thinking I was the shit lol. These shows bring back great memories :)

[@landyachtfan79]

You guys picked a real winner, that's all I am going to say so I don't spoil it for everybody else who has never seen this comparison. I have been in love with your choice all my life & have ALWAYS wanted one!!!! And yes, I would love to at least MEET John someday, if not take a road trip with him!!!!

[@starxlr7863]

There pick was also my pick even before seeing this comparison. That car offered the best style, luxury and options. Yes it could be better with more power but it is what it is. :)

[@OLDS98]

Thank you Motorweek for this video. Fantastic! I really appreciate seeing this video and showing this. It was great to see! Thank you for the recent GM and Lincoln videos as well.

[@samuelskillern7365]

Motorhead from 7:30 to 7:50. Well it is a car review though.

[@landyachtfan79]

7:34

[@callumdonington2227]

It was the 80s after all.

[@michaelstorm7552]

Ace of spades

[@ryansrides9714]

Absolutely awesome video motor week!! I loved seeing those gorgeous giant luxury sedans in absolutely brand new condition!!! Please make more of these!!! You guys should do a re-enactment of this with modern luxury sedans!!

[@timw.1485]

I miss the old Willamsburg pottery factory.. Me and my parents went many times back in the 80's and 90's. Now, it's just a overpriced outlet mall.

[@sleekcartim]

time has proven that the towncar wins in this contest, also you just cant kill that 5.0

[@jacobking4106]

Killed plently of 5.0s 😂

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@jacobking4106 Wrong

[@76carmel]

Hard to believe that a vehicle with a 4 barrell carburetor still existed in the late eighties (Cadillac Brougham).

[@blancaw6280]

1:11 OMG I had those same Blue Blockers that chick is wearing! I thought I was looking sexy with those things on! LMAO! In New York the Town Car was king. They made the best limousines.

[@Lincolnator721]

Blanca W my mom wore them I think they're cool.

[@timboslice1979]

Beautiful Town Car! I used to own an '88 and '89, you could steer it with your pinky finger. Comfy, and like driving a tank.

[@JonasRosenven]

Such majestic vehicles - a truly noble way to travel. I plan on going back to '88 as soon as I have saved up enough money. It is going to be a fantastic experience for me.

[@genepoon8905]

Lincoln Continental's 3.8L V6 was doomed from the start. Head gasket failures were epidemic. Then again, many luxury car buyers might trade them in before 50.000 miles, kicking the can (and the problem) to the next owner.

[@dkt1976dt]

I loved all 4 of them, now i own a 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, which is basically a slightly smaller and lower cost Lincoln Town Car.

[@kevinbarry7475]

I'd take that big, beautiful, blue Cadillac!

[@clarkgriswold5903]

Yes to Town Car, nothing like it!

[@user-mx8nr3sp6n]

Those sunglasses are awesome.

[@thomass3769]

So nice not seeing drivers distracted by smart phones

[@stevee8318]

5 liter V8 making 140hp w/ 13mpg. . . lol, we've come a long way.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

Imagine a car only getting 13 mpg when there are SUVs now getting in the 30s.

[@Catboy.]

Town car is still the most appealing today

[@coastaku1954]

Heh, as a Coaster enthusiast, I enjoyed their pit stop at Kings Dominion

[@me3333]

I've had Lincolns, Cadillacs, S Class Mercedes', and 7 Series BMWs and there is nothing better to haul a family across America than a Towncar. As much as I love my S600, it doesn't hold a candle to my Towncars of the past for just gobbling up highway miles.

[@Mabeylater293]

Even in this video the town car didn't have the smoothest ride. They r very reliable though.

[@robinatkins1292]

Agree entirely me3333.

[@bodyloverz30]

I had both (pre-owned) 89' Lincoln Signature Towncar & 91' Mercedes 560SEL, here is my take: the Towncar is excellent in city/country driving. Above 60 MPH, the 560 really shines. For a long highway trip, I would choose the 560 but, for a country road trip, it would be the Towncar all the way!

[@nasarazam]

What about the cornering though?... or driving in snowy conditions?

[@twoeightythreez]

@@nasarazam With snow tires, a town car is very good in snow.

[@markyrogers2466]

Love this. Also love seeing the old Williamsburg Pottery Factory... :)

[@scott9050]

That generation Continental was one of the most unreliable cars in modern history. The 3.8 engine was notorious for blowing head gaskets, the transmission suffered premature failure, the airbags leaked early and it had electrical Gremlins galore.

[@jimdayton8837]

Really? Just curious, Did you work on these cars? I was hoping to own one someday...

[@waltchan]

A lot of them went to junkyard now. Good luck finding one.

[@AmandaHugenkiss2915]

I could see that one having problems that's a lot of complicated electrical gadgetry. Just of of like now. And 5-7 years out, horrendously expensive to fix and away they go to the junkyard.

[@alexp362]

As a teen driver in the late 90s even then that style continental was known to be problematic. I remember seeing a lot with no plates on them and the rear end sagged on the ground parked in driveways.

[@Timico1000]

Leaking Airbags?!

[@bradcomis1066]

Its pretty amazing to see how far the American brands have come with their cars since this was filmed! 5.0L and 140hp from the Cadillac! Such an incredibly low specific output, but the fuel mileage wasn't actually that bad considering the size of the engine and the brick like aerodynamics.

[@oldtwins]

mileage wasn't directly comparable to today. speed limits at this time was a nationwide 55mph (I believe only Arizona had an exemption). try going a long distance at 55 in any car, you'll probably far exceed the rated highway mpg which is more of a realistic 65 speed today. city loops back then were also tested differently and much more accurately reflected in today's EPA certifications.

[@starxlr7863]

My 1961 Cadillac Fleetwood would eat the 88 Fleetwood brougham and deliver better fuel mileage. It has a Cadillac 390 V8 producing 325HP and 430 Pounds of torque. Big difference over the 70's and 80's Cadillac's.

[@Mabeylater293]

Holy moly Brad. Ur a cutie😘🏳️‍🌈

[@tranz15]

love the cadillac brougham used to have a 88 fleetwood brougham de'elegance loved the velour cloth interior it rode like no other car i've ever owned even with wore out, out of balance tires it floated along like riding on a cloud

[@slightlyusedpsx]

Five liter V8, 140 horsepower, did I hear that correctly? 13-18 miles per gallon. How far we have come.

[@MatrixDiscovery]

Nathan Huth My dad had the Oldsmobile version of the Caddy. It could literally carry more stuff than a full sized SUV in the trunk.

[@danmccarthy4700]

Jay Santos Where do you live where it's $3.80? Here in CT where everything is expensive, it's about $2.60 a gallon for regular at the moment.

[@TeeroyHammermill]

Nathan Huth Those 80's Big Cads were victims of stop gap measures. I.E V864,HT4100,Olds 307.

[@ohgodwhat1]

+Jay Santos Sure and the average american income was 19k a year vs 54k as today...whats your point? Also gas is NOWHERE near $3.80 its 2.65 where I live

[@ohgodwhat1]

+Jay Santos awe it so cute when your butthurt. Oh and consider your self educated. Your welcome

[@wiibaron]

Wonder why they didn't invite the New Yorker along. It was new and they had 5 drivers.

[@natehawkins2910]

Been to Nags head five times. Parked exactly where the four cars parked in front of the lighthouse. Kinda neat!

[@cmdarb141]

7:45---Excellent taste of music right there!

[@fernandorocha7457]

In radio of Cadillac Deville Touring Sedan

[@smithraymond09029]

Cadillac Brougham all the way!

[@laweezemorton8884]

I'm confused, what are those square things they keep putting into the stereo.

[@jcolwilio1756]

mm

[@austinmini1275]

Laweeze Morton The round ones are CDs and the rectangular ones are cassette tapes. What square things are you referring to?

[@ClayBenTreeceJr.]

Laweeze Morton those are cassette tapes

[@wiibaron]

Those were the new for then Mega SD cards. Only 16 bits of storage.

[@ImTheMan78]

Lol...young folks

[@BJRyan-bw4ny]

This is my favorite video to watch while drunk. Nothing else compares....

[@realbhopwood]

Screw the the Green New Deal, bring back the Panther!

[@nolarobert]

I know that the late-70s and 80s were a dark period for engine power but it is still startling to hear the engines of these high-end American luxury cars ranged from 145 to 155 Horsepower in 1989. Engine technology has come a long way with Turbocharged and Supercharged 4-cylinder power plants producing in the 200-305 Horsepower range. The days of American Land Yachts are gone but seeing them still reminds me of my youth.

[@nolarobert]

PeePee2000 The American Land Yachts of the 60s, 70s and 80s were a different breed. Read this article about it at: www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/02/why-every-car-guy-needs-to-pilot-a-giant-old-school-land-yacht-barge/

[@zoidzoid87]

+PeePee2000 it depends on what car ...to me it's just the body how they pull it out to make more in depth I guess....

[@socalltd]

+Robert Karma from the mid 70's, the horsepower dropped due to cleaner air mandates with emissions components. also, the national speed limit was 55MPH to improve MPG. this was the normal till way later

[@nolarobert]

+socalltd Actually, the federal government started addressing emissions back in 1968 (California started in 1965) which led to the end of the "muscle car" era. When you look at statistics on engine Horsepower and torque, the decline between pre to 1970 and 1971 onward is stark. The passage of the 1970 Clean Air Act further imposed emissions regulations on the automotive industry to address HC, CO, and NOxlevels. These were further modified by the 1974 Energy and Environmental Coordination Act and the 1977 Clean Air Act Amendments. With the requirement of catalytic converters in 1975, you had to use unleaded gasoline which further lowered compression ratios. On January 2nd, 1974, President Richard M. Nixon signed the Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act, setting a new national maximum speed limit. This was in response to the 1973 OPEC oil embargo. The act was intended to force Americans to drive at speeds deemed more fuel-efficient, thereby curbing the U.S. appetite for foreign oil. Another factor that prematurely ended the "muscle car" era was the rising cost of insurance. Manufacturers would fudge their horsepower results in an effort to keep the cost of insurance premiums down for the owners of these muscle cars. It didn't work which priced many young people out of the market for the inexpensive muscle cars like the Road Runner. So you had a historic confluence of factors that led to the end of the 1st muscle car era. Now we live in the 2nd muscle /performance car era and it is glorious. You have Mustangs, Camaros, Chargers, Challengers, etc., that have more powerful, efficient, cleaner burning combustion engines than they could have ever imagined back in the 60s. So buy one of these cars now because this era will likely come to an end in the 2020s.

[@socalltd]

+Robert Karma Thank you for the in dept knowledge. I just wanted to summarize a reply. I am in Calf and aware of all you have written. I would also include to what you replied is, what started from 1966, standard emissions(calf only) testing every two years with PCV valving then EGR systems. In 1971 we had low lead fuels, compression ratio drops to reduce NOx levels, power ratings went from net to gross and de-tuned cam timing in 1972, air injection for lower Ho and CO levels with "leaner" carburetors, unleaded fuel for catalyst system and first time CAFE mileage mandates in 1975. Fuel efficiency was the mindset from there on furthered by overdrive automatics and throttle injection then multi-port injection in the 80's. Technology and horsepower has come a long way. . .

[@markryl-kuchar2373]

All I have to say is that I've driven both the Lincoln Town Car and a Cadillac Sedan deVille. I liked both cars very well for long trips. I can't decide which is better for highway cruising.

[@zillsburyy1]

road trip with john davis any day!!!!

[@minimanadam]

Damn,that bobsled slide looked 10x more fun than any of the cars shown

[@wr70beh]

That ride is still there

[@mikezerker6925]

3:23 - looks like a funeral procession

[@brantisonfire]

Another trip down to North Carolina, kinda like the budget sport coupe shootout when you guys when to Wilmington.

[@savagesam205]

10:11 check out that Cadillac landing on the ferry

[@htownandi6263]

The Grizzly at Kings Dominion was my first ever roller coaster ride! I think back in 83.

[@TJ-di1lb]

the town car will always be my pick for a road trip car

[@petermartinijr.1012]

In 1986, I bought a 1987 Town Car. Ride is subjective. I preferred the ride of Town Car over the Cadillac, but the trunk on the Lincoln was bigger then the Fleetwood.

[@71vwdriver]

You guys should do this again!

[@styldsteel1]

Hell, I wouldn't mind an 88 Caddy Floatwood. :)

[@71Asrogers]

styldsteel1 Hahahaha!

[@emeyer6963]

Still see the occasional Town Car on the road but the rest are mostly gone

[@HIDHIFDB]

dont cry they are still alive in Mexico with hydraulics and propane and natural gas conversions .

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

I see a lot of rear drive Caddies from the late 70s and 80s. People like them since they are exempt from emissions. They run forever and are cheap to run (except gas).

[@jefferysmith3930]

Love the road trips. This one mostly in my home state. If I could have it today, I’d take the Deville Touring Sedan

[@samuelj.3699]

Lincoln town car is the best!

[@christopherneufeldt4035]

I have a Mercury Colony Park of the similar vintage, it's just as good. :)

[@fernandorocha7457]

Cadillac Deville and Fleetwood Brougham my favorites cars.

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

Wow, and here I thought that body style of Continental was real wheel drive. I love it when I learn something new!

[@anomalousclouds]

WikdSeafood same here!

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

Ross Sauce I thought this Lincoln was based on the Crown Vic/LTD platform.

[@WAQWBrentwood]

+WikdSeafood The 88 Town Car is a "Panther" (Crown Victoria / Grand Marquis)RWD, the 88 Continental sedan is based on the Taurus- FWD. While the Mark VII is a "Fox" body (Fairmont/Mustang, RWD)

[@coololds85]

These we're when luxury cars we're real. Today all luxury cars look like a bubble with a touch screen with no sense of style at all.

[@starxlr7863]

Yes very true!!

[@Lincolnator721]

Richard Truesdale he has a point

[@theKevronHarris]

coololds85 True. Today's luxury cars are plagued by bubble looks and overbearing tech with no sense of style.

[@ChevyBM]

So can a body on frame car! just put good shock absorbers and thick sway-bars and it will go through corners nicely.

[@heatherlee1769]

coololds85 you’ll look like Saul Goodman in some of these cars except his is a 1990s caddy

[@Leipaa]

It's crazy to watch this comparison right after watching the 1993 luxury comparison with foreign cars...traditional US luxury was 20 years behind the times...but I still want one!

[@alextsahalis6984]

The V8 engines in the Cadillacs only made around 140-150 horsepower?! Crazy. The following year, the Lexus LS400's V8 would make 250!

[@bufordblu3338]

Much more advanced engines, those GM V8 were so low tech . That Toyota V8 was beautiful.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

they were the same holdovers from the 70s emissions era. Newer engines were on the way (investments in V6 and the Northstar V8) and so GM put little money back into those old engines.

[@chrisxaf1237]

The brougham has a much better looking and elegant interior than the towncar

[@trendel13]

I'm kind of pissed they didn't let any of the cartoon characters drive the cars. I wanted to see Yogi in the Cadillac.

[@honestrunescaper]

The Brougham is the best car there... by far.

[@newyork819]

I like those Lincoln land yahts and I had a 91 Continental. The Continental was fabulous. No complaints until those airbag suspension fails...

[@kippaseo8027]

Even though they Cher nothing but the name it would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison with the 88 Lincoln Continental and a 2018 Continental.

[@MatrixDiscovery]

Good lord these cars are bigger then planes. That Caddy is longer then a Maybach!

[@albear972]

2:30 WTF? A 5.0 Liter V8 that makes 140 HP? 😂 Dear lord! The 1980's were the most horrible time for cars.

[@bj1701b]

Indeed, ultra strict emissions standards, corporate mpg standards all combined with a national speed limit of 55mph😢😕

[@GeeEm1313]

Also, the dude with the glasses was listening to Motörhead. Hell yeah.

[@tobyrocks3]

Do you guys have a retro video for the 1988 update of the crown Victoria, grand marquis

[@markh.1487]

I learned to drive on my Mom's '79 Fleetwood Brougham with the 425 V8. Sad to see a 5.0 (305) on this example. I miss that car.

[@andrewcolsen]

The 1986 - 1989 Cadillac Broughams had the Olds 307 not the Chevrolet 305.

[@AWDfreak]

8:18 ...based on the Ford Taurus.... Well, I guess that new Lincoln Continental is doing the same as the old one did.

[@arri275555]

I had an 88 DeVille. Miss that car.

[@ThePuffin77]

I honestly think the Lincoln Continental still looked good in the 90s. It was a modern look for the time.

[@starxlr7863]

What made the Continental so much better was having the new 32 Valve InTech V8 for 1995-2002 Continental's. Not to mention very good overall build quality and high tech options found standard. Although I'm still not that crazy about its looks, it is still a very nice car!! I have its rivel the Cadillac Seville myself. :)

[@markjohnston3502]

I'd pick the Cadillac.

[@megabowzer100]

@3:25 looks like a mafia meeting

[@WTMNNJR]

I would like the towncar. Or the brougham.

[@spike007980]

Freakin Motörhead playing, nice.

[@Doobie1975]

I wish they can make large land yacht cars today but with as much power as they did in the pre-1971 vehicles.

[@dieselcoondog]

Impala. Sadly discontinued. Everyone buys trucks.

[@Mrmatteo08]

@@dieselcoondog sad but true. Almost all the car segments have been cannibalized by SUVs: the few remained station wagon ( almost disappeared in the last three decades due to minivans), minivans, and, nowadays, also compact, mid-size and full size sedans. I still can't understand why everyone has gone crazy for SUVs

[@westhavenor9513]

Bring back front bench seats! I miss having a car in which I can vomit and comfortably pass out.

[@muziklvr7776]

Bench seats, soft suspensions, and large sidewall tires need a comeback.

[@mychufr]

Oh lord.. please bring back that beautiful Lincoln Town Car.. It’s 2024 .. We miss beautiful luxury sedans!

[@yoranw4608]

In the times of Lucid, Tesla, electric Benz’es… it seems we have got it all.. *But isn’t just curious how those - now vintage - cars seem just perfect to all we need and want?* I miss super soft suspension cars.

[@palmermccall7309]

There was either something wrong with this Brougham, or the drivers were lead-footed. From around 1999 to 2004, I drove an '86 Brougham, with the Olds 307 and QuadraJet. I could routinely return 26 MPG on a highway trip, and once saw 29.2 MPG on a 3-hour trip from Durham to Marion, in North Carolina.

[@westhavenor9513]

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Had a Delta 88 back in the day with the same setup. Got surprisingly great mileage.

[@TeeroyHammermill]

Probably a led foot here but I know 86-87 Brougham was geared a bit taller than 88-90. (2.73:1 for 86-87, 2.93:1 for 88-90)

[@dontelindsey5846]

wait no fifth avenue or new Yorker?

[@probablynovideoshere]

+Donte Lindsey hahahaahahaa

[@shopwithaaron]

We had 1991 5th ave and loved it.....smooth ride, rather cheaply built interior and super comfy seats all around. Bought it for 1500 and sold it for 1300 7 years later. Only had 26,000 miles at the start and 54,000 when we let her go.

[@christopherneufeldt4035]

I think because the K-Car platform was quite small, it didn't fit their requirements for a big road cruiser. They look downright tiny compared to even the front drive conti's of the same time frame. Chrysler wasn't making a rear drive body on frame sedan like GM and Ford were at the time so, you could only do half the comparo anyways.

[@ayp1938]

Christopher Neufeldt the fifth ave is body on frame v8 rwd

[@paulmeyer4376]

Weren't those in their final year of production?