Motown's First Girl Group | The Untold Truth Of The Marvelettes | Motown Legends Ep45

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[@JamesSmith-mz5rz]

We who have a ear for music know that the Marvelettes were and will always be Motown super stars,rest in peace ladies!!!!

[@acquanellaogbemudia9930]

One of the best Female Groups of all times hands down ! Never Forgotten. I listen to The Marvelettrd all the time even in 2023 Yes ❤❤❤

[@gerardcousineau3478]

The Mo dettes took their name from the Marvelettes 😊

[@michele462]

It is a shame they are not in the rock and roll hall of fame. They were one of the first great female musical groups. I think the rock and roll hall of fame is based on popularity. WBPTV, great video always. 👍

[@WBPTV]

I think so too. There’s a lot of people who have GREAT catalogs but they are not in, and there’s alot that has small catalogs but ARE in. It’s very confusing I believe it is base on popularity among other things. That’s why I believe we as BLACK people need our own. You can say the R&B HOF but they kinda fall under the same regime as the RnR HOF. Honestly I think the HOF should consider Catalog, Popularity and just Pure Talent

[@michele462]

@@WBPTV I agree 👍💯👏

[@alexandradillard2077]

Not in the R & R Hall of Fame? They weren’t even invited to the Motown 25. It took over 40 years for Please Mr. Postman to become a gold record. You should read their book the Marvelettes: Motown’s Mystery Girl Group. It is sad that they aren’t inducted. It might be business but if Gordy was thinking he would’ve prospered more by promoting all of the girl groups.

[@alexandradillard2077]

I do agree with you! We do need our own.. Also, Dionne Warwick said it should be the music hall of fame because not everyone is/was a rock and roll singer/band. And I’m enjoying your channel 😊.

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

They’re in the R&B Hall Of Fame correct?

[@bobbyhendrix8536]

I ABSOLUTELY luved this video!! I luved the Marvelettes, with Wanda, Gladys!! They were horribly ignored n underated! You gave them a voice, n we all heard, thanks!😮😮

[@lakesiabeavers4161]

The music business is dirty, and those singers work hard. Great video. May those ladies be Resting In Peace!!

[@kamauthabiti5171]

How in the hell could these fabulous women be denied entry into anybody's hall of fame, the hall is bogus. One of the greatest groups ever. Love you, salute you. Thank you.

[@9772]

I’m born and raised in Detroit. I feel like the Marvelettes, were simply wonderful. Yes! they were abandon and pushed aside like so many other groups and solo artists at Motown 😢 I have Big Respect and Plenty of Love for them. 😂 They will always live in my heart ❤️

[@unclechuck9297]

Yeah I remember they last hit Destination Anywhere in 1968 then that was it

[@patrickhenry2845]

Berry Gordy told the Marvelettes to not pack their bags when Motown left Detroit for Los Angeles. That was the end of the Marvelettes. Danger, heartbreak dead ahead. Afterwards.

[@hartubmoses6645]

Thanks for reminding me of just how many great songs the Marvelettes had, some I haven't heard since they were recorded and released in their perspective years.

[@everettseay8505]

I guess Rev.Franklin had legitimate reasons for not allowing Aretha to sign with Motown!

[@spellerlittlewing]

Who cares Franklin wasn’t good to her musicians I hate all of these greedy entertainers

[@tinytowz4471]

What were Pastor Franklin's reasons?

[@jduwayne1]

@everettseay8505: YOU DONT HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT!

[@Lady-Vanderson]

@@tinytowz4471 He wanted Aretha to sing jazz and wanted her to be with Capital Records.

[@brucescott4261]

@@Lady-Vanderson ...Capitol*

[@ritagildon5125]

The Marvelettes where Motown's Best female #1 just my opinion and on their tails very close was Martha and the Vandellas , of course Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson were fantastic ❤ too. Love them all Rest in heavenly Peace to all those Beautiful and talent ladies. God sure blessed you with the Gift of wonderful voices that will be missed in our life time. Thank you Ladies forever for sharing them with us all.

[@joepalooka2145]

Great video. It's very important to keep this musical history alive. Not a lot of people understand how enormously important groups like the Marvelettes and other Motown groups are in the history of popular music. The musical talent and creativity of these artists and their songwriters and producers was so excellent and so unique that everybody else tried to come up to the same level. They were like a gold standard of excellence. They were a role model of how good you had to be to get to the same level. Just ask the Beatles.

[@brahmabkitty03]

Oh hell no! They marketed the Wanda’s album as the Marvellettes but screwed over Flo? That is so messed up!!!

[@jackieclark2004]

One of my favorite Motown groups that put Inkster on the map. Thank you so much for this story.

[@roycobb8268]

What a beautiful, wonderful group the Marvelettes were! Their songs just always can give me a good feeling on the inside.

[@cdubz265]

I feel bad that Georgia couldn’t live out her dreams due to her father’s demands to stay home and be a caretaker for her younger siblings, you can tell that she has regrets and that it truly hurt her.

[@WaterfallVee]

@@cdubz265 Parentification

[@laminage]

Their legacy is still strong in Europe. A couple of years ago The Saturdays A Girlgroup did "their" version of Please Mr. Postman on a Special saluting The Carpenters. Someone forgot that it was a "Cover" Version. In The UK Motown, Chess Records, The Philly Soul Sound and Northern Soul are still very popular.

[@michele462]

I am interested in their story.

[@jameskookie]

EVEN THOUGH I AM A BIG SUPREMES FAN😊 , I AM SO GLAD THEY MADE THIS DOCUMENT. AS FOR BERRY, HE HAD $$ ON HIS MIND. IT WASN'T FAIR, BUT HE CONCENTRATED ON THE SUPREMES BECAUSE DIANA ROSS HAD THAT CROSSOVER VOICE THAT WOULD CATAPULT THEM TO UNLIMITED SUCCESS.

[@elwin38]

Beechwood 45789 was awesome too.

[@michele462]

Congrats on 28K.👍

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

Let me say something motown and berry pushed aside lots of groups who gave them number 1 hits the marvelettes is one of them. And Martha and The Vandellas and let's not forget even though Motown and berry were only focused on the supremes let's remember they were only focused on diana they didn't give a care about Florence or mary so Motown and berry pushed aside a lot of talent because they were only focused on Diana and getting her to a Solo career.

[@spellerlittlewing]

Yes berry and the rest of them the scum of the earth

[@Leatherbro]

I strongly advocate what you said. Berry Gordy steamrolled over plenty of artists who were far more talented superior to the Supremes. Berry Gordy placed his emphasis on Diana Ross due to their intimate relationship. He was preparing her for a solo career. He didn't care about the Marvelettes or Martha Reeves and the Vandellas. Both groups were far more "naturally talented" than the Supremes. He didn't give a crap about Florence Ballard, whose voice was far more talented to Diana Rosses voice or Mary Wilson either.

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

@@Leatherbro i agree .

[@fredgillis591]

@@Leatherbro Berry Gordy didn't focus on the Supremes just because of his romance with Diana, he was always business first, last and always! Diana didn't rule him, he saw the Supremes could put Motown on the map the way the other groups just couldn't. Diana was ambitious as were all the others at Motown. What Motown said, Diana did! She NEVER showed up to work late, high, drunk or unprepared, didn't get "knocked up", she didn't give half when all was called for, she gave her all at all times, she arrived before everyone, stayed later than most others to learn her craft, she worked damned hard, and didn't fight over the decisions that Motown came to even when she didn't like them. Berry Gordy would NEVER let Diana front the group if Flo was THE better choice, each girl, Barbara, Betty, Florence, Mary and Diana had turns singing lead and had singles released on them and all flopped, until Diana in the lead caught on, she was put up front because her voice stood out in the background, listen to the Supremes doing background vocals for Mary Wells. The Marveletts only had one #1 record. If Motown went even one year WITHOUT a #1 record, the whole thing would have collapsed, so he opted to spend his slim resources on the ones that made the company the most MONEY! Diana, Micheal, Marvin, The Tops, The Temps etc,etc,etc.

[@fredgillis591]

You are wrong! Florence had so many problems steming from her rape, she couldn't get out of her own way, even Mary Wilson finally told her look just be cool, Diana will be gone soon and we can do whatever we want, Flo got fat, stayed drunk, missed rehearsals and shows and fought with all the producers and Berry until, Mary concluded Flo couldn't be helped and she too agreed Florence Ballard, whom she loved had to go, Florence never stopped loving Diana, but she stayed mad at her for a very long time, Diana understood that and did what she could to help Flo financially when enough time passed, all the others you mentioned had very large drug problems, Martha's was cocaine, alcohol and crack, much the same with Marvin, and some session musicians and many others, he just got tired of fighting these endless battles and dragging what should have been professionals out of clubs and flop houses. Motown had to be protected at any cost, did he make mistakes, you bet! And he owned up to them. Berry also ruled by committee with the group deciding who got what song, etc, although he and very often Smoky made the final decisions. Martha Reeves talked extensively about her drug problems which in my opinion destroyed her voice, so many people at Motown self destructed and were fuming at Diana when HE pulled the plug on them. Diana never interfered with the other girls at Motown making as much progress as they wanted, but they all wanted her to step aside and let them shine in her spot, Ms Ross would NEVER even think such a thing. True winners don't.

[@DaoudJ.Khaliq-hj7qp]

The Marvelettes is My All Time Favorites Motown Girl Group! Off All the Girl Groups, to Me Their Songs Were ALWAYS THE FUNKIEST!

[@phillycheez6288]

To add insult to injury The Marvelletes had to come with their own song,knocked down Hitsville's door with Mr Postman 🤎garnered 1 million selling and The Supremes were still sitting on that lobby bench wishing, hoping for a hit!🤷🏾‍♀️ it took The Supremes 4 years to finally hit! By today's standards The Supremes would've been dropped by the label for failing to produce a hit record!

[@alexandradillard2077]

I agree with you! No record company today would’ve poured that much time and money into an artist for that long. But since Motown was an up and coming company, they were willing to be patient and invest in them. On the flip side I don’t think they were getting paid paid for those flops so they were basically working for nothing.

[@kenj280]

It was smart of them to bring their own song, they also wrote others. Mary Wells came to Motown with a song too.

[@fredgillis591]

And the Marveletts would have been let go for not producing a follow up #1,

[@bgcrp2005]

But Diana Ross had the crossover voice the marvelletes didn’t have so … she outlasted Barry saw commercial in her

[@kenj280]

@@bgcrp2005 The Marvellettes crossed over a lot. Motown's first number one Pop hit was " Please Mr. Postman".

[@alexandradillard2077]

Thanks for the presentation. I believe all Gordy has to do is say the word and they’ll be inducted.

[@kamauthabiti5171]

Hope so.

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

I'm so glad there are so many tribute channels to them they weren't honored like the supremes and other motown acts .

[@FriendofDorothy]

It was "Please Mr. Postman" and "Beechwood 4-5789" that got me into this group as a kid in the Midwest. I hung in there with them as a fan, but once they started doing songs that were more adult-themed or MOR my interest began waning. I actually think their best single was "Too Many Fish in the Sea". Their most intriguing singles were "I'm Gonna Hold On (Long as I Can)" (classic soul vocals instead of pop; very gospel sounding similar in respects to the take 'em to church style of "Locking Up My Heart") and the Twilight Zone-ish "Destination: Anywhere" (an early songwriting effort of Ashford and Simpson).

[@unclechuck9297]

Y'all forgetting Don't mess with Bill.

[@valerie4501]

The MARVELETTES were indeed marvelous 💥💯, My favorites were Don't Mess With Bill, The Hunter Gets Captured By The Prey, My Baby Must Be A Magician, these three songs were beautifully sung 🥰 by Wanda Young on lead vocals, her voice was absolutely amazing, she most definitely should have gone on to become a SOLO ARTIST, she could have easily sung Diana Ross 's lead vocals from all of the Supremes greatest hits, she was an dynamic 💥💯 vocalist ⭐; but how can you go wrong when WILLIAM "SMOKEY" ROBINSON is your songwriter 💯💥!!!

[@hartubmoses6645]

Yes, all great songs. I got a parakeet for my birthday and I called him Bill after the song, "Don't mess with Bill."

[@marvinwhittaker]

I always like The Marvelettes. They gave Motown it's very first number one hit. "Where Did Our Love Go" was written for The Marvelettes but they passed on the song. And after The Supremes became a hit sensation, The Marvelettes was brushed away. Do Jr Walker and The All Stars!!!

[@bgcrp2005]

It was fate Diana had the most crossover sound abways no shade to Gladys and Wanda

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

​@@bgcrp2005well who cares you're the one that keeps bringing it up but you're saying no shade but it seems like you were being shady. She had the most crossover appeal but that still doesn't excuse the fact that he and Motown pushed aside the marvelettes and other groups because he was only focused on her. And the problem with you Diana ross fans y'all are obsessed with her .

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

@@bgcrp2005 Gladys and Wanda had powerful soulful voices.

[@brodocbetty4856]

Marvellettes were very talented and were better on stage and vocally than the Supremes IMO

[@phillycheez6288]

The Marvelletes could sing and dance at the same time...The Supremes not so much..😄

[@elwin38]

The Beatles played/sung Please Mr Postman when it first came out. They did a remake on one of their early albums. John Lennon was the lead singer when they covered this song when they toured in Germany and their early American tours.

[@dave8709]

This is my favorite music channel ive come to learn way more than others. Thsnk you can pass day going thru these

[@Bananadiva1]

Not only were The Marvelettes the best Motown girl group, they were the best girl group of all time.

[@qwebra62]

Thanks for the story. “ Too many fish in the sea “ and “ I have a need for love “. My fav was K. Anderson. Tall , slim, pretty and fine. RIP K. Anderson.

[@richard3536]

Always liked they’re music . Learned a lot of things on this I never knew .

[@denisedillinger1354]

Seriously Motown gambled there name ? this was an iconic record label all artist should have been protected at all cost great video wow

[@fredgillis591]

Your way of thinking would have sent Motown into bankruptcy!

[@denisedillinger1354]

@@fredgillis591 glad you find my one positive comment and said and nothing all I said was they gambled the name lol have a good day. My way of thinking repeating a statement lol 😂 many artist own there name and masters.

[@fredgillis591]

@@denisedillinger1354 hi Denise, my comment wasn't aimed at you. What you had to say was very true. So I apologize to you. It was meant to address the group in general, so many people write such awful incorrect things without knowing the fuller story behind the actions. I honor your opinion.

[@fredgillis591]

May I also add you are a very lovely young lady.

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

​@@fredgillis591well you're doing the same thing. Now leave this man alone it's his videos not yours you don't like them stay off his channel.

[@kamronrhodes5151]

They were never paid

[@nicollantiago]

I didn't know that. I was hoping this group would have gotten some profits.

[@kenj280]

Of course they were paid. They had contracts and have never claimed that.

[@kamronrhodes5151]

@@kenj280 I know

[@ryandejuan9934]

Excellent video as always. One thing though -- The Supremes, which they were newly renamed at the time, were the first female group to sign to Motown. The Marverlettes were the first act period -- male or female, to achieve a number one record on the Hot 100 with "Postman". Diana Ross, Mary Wilson, Florence Ballard, and Barbara Martin were signed to Motown as The Supremes on January 15, 1961. Gladys' group did not sign until July of that same year.

[@HaliB75]

The woman in the picture at 9:59 is not Maxine Powell, that’s Maxine Sullivan who was a jazz singer that my grandfather once managed.Just a heads up.

[@WBPTV]

Appreciate you.

[@HaliB75]

@@WBPTV Thank you. Great channel!

[@dfinite1111]

So many great songs. SO MANY!!!

[@muffassa6739]

😊😊😊😊 I'm from Michigan USA and I loved Motown many many happy memories ♥ ❤ of great music 🎶

[@juneandrus2840]

The Marvelettes were More of A Soulful Girl Group

[@Serioussamurai500]

Love this.thank you 👍🏽

[@tinytowz4471]

It still bothers me that Motown abandoned The Marvellettes, plus Martha Reeves & The Vandellas, to focus on Diana Ross & The Supremes. The added annoyance is that other companies follow this negative pattern. I don't remember this happening to male groups and male solists. IJS.

[@keisongz]

That’s just business let me remind you Motown Still was trying to establish themselves in a white own business Business wise you’re gonna keep on bringing in more groups which each You’re going to keep tweak it and tweak it until you can reach the level of success that you’re looking for weather is the Marvelettes to Martha Reeves and the Vandellas to The Supremes or Mav Johnson to Barrett Strong to Marvin Gaye sometimes when people discuss things they think I’m from non business Point of view

[@babakazi5818]

The velvelettes spinners Allstars Gladys knight an the pips Carolyn Crawford Kim weston Brenda Holloway etc

[@babakazi5818]

Don't forget the isley Brothers.

[@tinytowz4471]

@@babakazi5818 🎤"This Old Heart of Mine"❤

[@kenj280]

The truth is the Supremes went years without a hit before they got on a roll. Were they being pushed aside? The public buys the records and The Marvelletes turned down " Where did Our Love Go". That was a mistake.

[@teenatchie1313]

Love to Mary Wells ,As'e Martha Reeves As'e Tammi Terell, Ase Flo Ballard As'e Wanda & the Marveletts too Beautiful music & voices they brung us & whomever i missed when music was music!!

[@missjoyceakaladyj6628]

They were my 1st Fan Club -- The MARVELOUS MARVELETTES!! I have so many fond memories of this group of young women. They were Sensational back in the day❤❤❤❤

[@earlgoodlett7593]

greatest group of alltimes my favorite songs are the goddesof love someday someway strange i know so long baby to strong tobe strung along

[@kenj280]

There is no record company where all the artists have the same amount of success. The public buys the records also.

[@CCTH2221-lp2zj]

Although they were at their peak before I was born, they hold a special place in my life. I heard their records as a child. But what really got me hooked was one night in the late seventies. They were showing the old Motown Review and I fell in love with Georgeanna Tillman. Such a shame her health would not let her continue. She definitely had “It”😍

[@ioxxd90]

The Supremes were actually the first female group

[@mrstanbmw]

Great group great catalog they lived in the country right by that huge airport

[@lindalawon9151]

Doing while they were together, alive, and young makes every bit of the difference. Maybe yes maybe no, It is good that the performance law is allowed only if one of the originals is performing in the group. Personally, I do not want to see other than originals. It appears that numerous laws that negatively affect performers must be updated to benefit the performers now in 2023. The uncertainty of their and their families health leaves them out in the cold and everybody is a human being first. The FAUNT CLAUSE MUST BE ELIMINATED AND MADE ILLEGAL IMMEDIATELY WORLDWIDE.

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

The comments are negative as always. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ that's why i keep my mouth closed because when a video is made about Motown the diana ross stans they come running. Continue to rest in peace Gladys Horton and Wanda Young.

[@michaelcoffey7362]

Cool Group 🥰

[@Soundofsilence-j4d]

Im white love that group they had unieqiue way about them like goddess some those 46s just splendid style of there own.

[@CC-nl1bo]

"Capture By The Game" I love that song especially the long version 👏👏

[@waynethompson8207]

Bro I have to give you props you know music like Michael Angelo knows Arts

[@spellerlittlewing]

Yes that’s show business

[@oldermusiclover]

sad but true

[@juneandrus2840]

The Marvelettes (Great Girl Group)

[@jacquelinerussell8530]

Not enough votes OMG Tbis group was robbed

[@theresawebb1968]

They made history the marvelettes shouldnt be forgotten but fame got to their heads. They were first girl group at motown.

[@Soundofsilence-j4d]

They had long charted career should been mention had just had hits as much as Martha had

[@CharlesWilson-zs3vd]

I heard or read, that they turned down the song, 'Where did our love go" That was a hit by the Supremes.

[@rmick66]

They thought the song to be too simple snd juvenile. They underestimated the talents of the Motown producers and musicians that would make it a hit. They would have knocked it out if the park with that one.

[@CharlesWilson-zs3vd]

@@rmick66 I believe, they thought the song was slow, and not snappy enough for them.

[@crazy4dross]

The Marvelettes were not the first female group at Motown. The Supremes were at Motown first.

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

No they were not the marvelettes were way before the Supremes came along.

[@saltwell80]

I love that wanda young, boy so pretty and sexy especialy when she sang that dont mess with bill,i can't believe how Berry Gordon did these kids ,um talkin about all of these gifted kids that sung for motown ,that's right they were all kids,i dont wanna dig in deep on Berry Gordon because when you tell the truth and it hurt,they will take down your comment,

[@tony_2024]

RIP to Katherine Anderson-Schaffer, she will be missed dearly

[@eben8999]

Them were some long song titles lol

[@theresawebb1968]

I love the marvelettes alot they werent recognised like they should.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@violahenderson7597]

Berry why did u basically abandon the girl groups that in the beginning made u MONEY!!!!! Shame on you BERRY BUT GOD IS ALWAYS WATCHING & THEY HAVE RECIEVED THEIR REWARDS WITH HIM WHERE THEY ARE NOW HAPPY & NO WORRIES UNLIKE YOU🙈🙊🙉WELL LETS JUST SAY GOD IS GOOD🙂👌👍🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@robertgilliam5847]

Tiny Tim in the rock and roll hall of fame but the marvelous are not what a travesty that is fuck the rock and roll hall of shame

[@juergenloeffler334]

Inkster all the way

[@dannyboyd9462]

They Put Motown On The Map !!! Brag About It All Day Inkster !!! Ya Deserve It !!!

[@watanabeisamu1461]

モータウンソウル、The Ronettes.Ronnie Spector good 🎉❤❤

[@juergenloeffler334]

Marvelette s number one

[@bubaby7867]

I thought that Motown already had a number one R&B but not a number one pop hit like Please Mr. Postman.

[@bingpana]

Love your presentation, just find. " they was" instead of " they were" annoying and subtracting from your good work.

[@ZgraceLee]

Did dude say "compilations from a stroke" 😮

[@Dogfather428]

As far as Motown girl groups go #1 Marvelettes #2 Martha & The Vandellas #3 Supremes #4 Velvelettes #5 Elgins... not really a girl group, but had a female lead singer When you know, you know.

[@lawrenceanderson7326]

Didn’t Postman supply the cash to help Motown advance to the next level?

[@sandraandrews9907]

The Marvelettes equals the screwjob from Berry Gordy & Motown. I saw the UNSUNG episode that this episode is resourced from. Just a tragedy all the way around.😢😢 Although both the Supremes & the Vandellas are in, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame wouldn't let them in. 💔💔🎶🎤🎤🎤🎤🎶

[@oldermusiclover]

Carl GARDNER SUED TO GET THE OK TO USE THE COASTERS NAME

[@leongreen8055]

Diana Ross was very gorgeous woman and he was not going to put her it was not going to put them out unless over down across the Supremes summative how that go case closed

[@obedirect5491]

Huh?

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

What do you even mean? I'm just trying see what you meant because I don't understand.

[@jalisabradford6201]

Gorgeous?

[@9772]

WHAT???????????????

[@williamhughey6875]

THE MARVELETTES WERE AS BIG AS ANY GROUP DURING THE 1960s!!! .. YOU MUST NOT HAVE BEEN BORN YET!!!!

[@fredgillis591]

Stop blaming Diana for Motown decisions!

[@ebtheceleb7933]

Chrisean look like Wanda

[@stuartjenkins6673]

They were the 2nd Girl Group Signed to Motown in July 1961. Supremes were signed January 1961