Movement Makes Us Human: Kelly McGonigal, PhD | Rich Roll Podcast

[@kemsolid]

I was a big fan of her Ted Talk on how to make stress your friend, now she's talking about making movement your friend, this woman is brilliant in various fields!

[@carecree888]

This woman is a master. She clearly understands things from many dimensions. A lot of speakers teachers speak on these subjects but the depth is missing. She understands that we need to understand why we seek to modifying our behavior. The mindfulness piece is huge. Thank you Kelly for all that you bring to this world. I hope and pray for you that perhaps there is a path where you don’t need the pain in order to move you along your highest path.

[@JavedKhan-dx1sv]

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[@henricarlson4250]

The eloquence with which this woman speaks is what compelled me to purchase her book. She exudes mastery in her chosen field, and is exactly the type of person from whom we should learn new things. She (and Rich, of course) is the type of person whom I aspire to be one day, and I am confident that her guidance will prove to be instrumental to progress towards my life goals. It is our duty to support those who imbue wisdom into the hearts of the eager, and it is a privilege to be able to support her through the purchase of her book. Thank you, Rich, for providing her the platform she clearly deserves.

[@tb8827]

At 50, I love solitude. I run, practice yoga, ride the trainer, and study for university alone. As a kinesthetic learner and avid barefoot lifestyle person, this particular podcast hit home. Thank you RR, your story and podcasts have been instrumental in changing my life--for the better.

[@BruceClithero]

50+ and practicing movement and yoga. Solitude is essential as is communing and community for a total well-being. 🙏🕉️

[@Alice_Walker]

Kelly is so lovely and smart and open hearted. She's right up there with Brene Brown for me. This podcast is a such a great fit for my new years mood. Loved this conversation and will definitely get a copy of the new book !!

[@kiranreman9341]

True

[@anamariaferrer9020]

Excellent everything you say are so certain

[@ambarnathmajumdar8725]

True. Berne Brown is a champion of the quality of vulnerability which can give birth to invincibility,, who brings to mind Elton John's song on Princess Diana. Kelly is a blonde like Berne.

[@danthadon87]

This dude deserves at least a million subscibers with content like this, to the next milestone sir! Thanks.

[@equteachme]

Really happy to run across this, " I haven't seen Kelly McGonigal in new content for years! " and I just loved " The Upside Of Stress " so it's great to hear from her again.

[@BigBundy82]

Kelly is so Amazing..Smart, Kind... A truly beautiful woman, inside and out!!!

[@beldonhuang]

Brilliantly said. Just one session covers so much that we should know about how to live our lives to the fullest and learn to enjoy it

[@alanafox7866]

Wish he’d have not answered his own questions & listened more so we could have heard more of her voice. I wish so many more people were interviewing this brilliant woman.

[@reprogrammingmind]

She's such a delightful speaker! Thank you for sharing

[@BedCrunch]

I rowed through this entire episode on a rowing machine and had a blast.

[@Rycamcam]

I always felt this way about the movement of climbing-- it's a basically a dance on the wall in which you use strength, focus, and your own unique body type to execute the movements differently than anyone else.

[@curlylocks856]

My woowoo explanation? I find my soul most easy to touch when my feet are on dirt. Nothing is more spiritual to me that the quiet of raw nature. I'm also a psychologist, however, and I love Kelly's work - as do my students!

[@RameshBaburbabu]

Here are 10 key questions from the conversation, with related sub-topics: 1. Movement and the brain - How do hope molecules like myokines improve our mood, motivation, and ability to handle stress when released during exercise? - What is the neuroscience behind why music primes us to move? 2. Music, memory, and identity - Why does the music we listen to intensely in adolescence stay emotionally resonant across our lifetimes? - How do musical memories shape our sense of self and nostalgia? 3. Ultra running and human nature - What did you discover about the capacity for inner strength combined with interdependence in the ultra running community? - How did this change your perspective on human nature? 4. Sustainable exercise habits - Instead of behaviors, why focus on the inner "why" for sustainable exercise habits? - What reflective questions help reveal the type of meaning or joy someone wants more of through movement? 5. Movement and compassion - How is movement an act of self-compassion, especially in a group context? - Why can receiving compassion from others be difficult and why is it an important skill? 6. Human-animal relationships - Why are you drawn to learn more about the psychological benefits of relationships with animals? - What ideas do you have for a book exploring this topic? 7. Stress and willpower - Has your perspective on stress and willpower evolved recently and if so, how? 8. Personal growth - What personal frontier are you currently working on in terms of your own growth and behavior? 9. Scientific research interests - What scientific research are you most compelled by right now and why? 10. TED talk on willpower - How do you see your viral TED talk on willpower differently now compared to when you first gave it?

[@flipniclives1244]

I LOVE this woman, really ...

[@saikalemil2157]

Love her big blue eyes! And things she says are wonderful and super helpful, thank you!

[@ambarnathmajumdar8725]

Her hair is tidier than in the TED talk on befriending stress.

[@NN-fz4pd]

Are you lesbian?

[@NN-fz4pd]

Why do you need to comment on female appearance when it’s literally irrelevant? Stop bringing focus to female appearance. LOOKS DON’T MATTER

[@NN-fz4pd]

Why do you fkng care how tidy her hair is lol do you comment on males appearance the same way?

[@cygarner1834]

I'm so grateful for the time with her process of thinking about life and her distain with how society has been focused on exercise to make sure body satisfaction.

[@adogandhergirl19]

Absolutely "YES" for a book on animals/sustainable compassion!

[@milomilano7679]

This is my favorite RR podcast.

[@aLr_boosh]

I haven't seen Kelly McGonigal in new content for years! Looking forward to it!

[@evelynbaron2004]

My sister after watching this podcast, which was so cool for both of us, send me everything, so am working backward but it's all of a piece; such an inspiring writer, love this conversation. I am a great fan of this particular podcast because I share a lot of life markers with Rich Roll and he truly is an incredibly inspiring human being; also my partner is his age and i'm a decade older so Boomer! as a reaction from a younger generation is something I can personally take on board.

[@mikeyb400]

I feel that from 1:34:35 embodies Kelly's quality of seeking and finding ever deeper and purposeful meaning where Rich and I might not see it, due to our conditioning or prejudices. I'd like to think this is a fruit of much personal reflection. I enjoyed this pod and it resonates with the questions i'm asking and has certainly provided some answers. Thank you Kelly, thank you Rich👍

[@AllisonBernard_RI]

Thank you for posting this time tag!

[@mikeyb400]

@@AllisonBernard_RI you're welcome. It's sometime ago now but your message will drive me to discover Ally's worker. I remember her ringing a lot of bells for me.

[@plantaetivoli1178]

OK, this young lady blew my mind :) Story of my life, I'll never be same (for the much better) again. Watch out, millennials, I'll catch up sooner than you can see it coming. Much love and Peace from Upstate NY.

[@tiffernut2456]

Hello to you from Upstate NY as well! 🌳

[@zezty4295]

Changed my life thanks and like rich I thought I was already sold and learned so much.goes back to never thinking you know it all on a subject.

[@4whirledpeas]

THANK YOU for not jumping on the bandwagon to disparage "participation awards." It seems like people fail to realize that this happens mostly for very young children OR for field days that are non-competitive events (like end-of-the-year picnics or other community building activities). In this case, the ribbons that are passed out are "souvenirs" or "mementos" of a fun experience. People will say, about the very young, that giving them a "participation trophy" is getting them started off on the wrong foot - with unrealistic expectations about how life works. THE TRUTH is that developmentally, for a young child, an "award" is *an abstract concept that they do not understand* In this case, we are simply being cruel by imposing an adult concept for no good reason. (It would be like having someone walk up to you and say something in a foreign language that you've never heard before - and think that you had gotten something out of the conversation.) The child does not cry not because they didn't get a trophy, but because they don't understand why the adults they love are suddenly punishing them after a joyous activity. This video might help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqaUlISbr7mnors&moodtype=it&moodleresid=59682 Awards for elementary children can sometimes set up a negative effect called "PRAISE DEPENDENCE." In other words, once a behavior is rewarded - the child will expect to be rewarded for that behavior from then on. BEFORE THE AWARD, a child may have engaged in a behavior because they enjoyed it, because they felt like part of a team, or because they wanted to improve or master a skill (they were intrinsically motivated). AFTER THE AWARD, they feel slighted or unmotivated in the absence of a token. Their power to self-assess has been taken away. Now they rely on adults to tell them if they were good enough. It's not that there should never be awards. It's just that they are not the existential crisis and cause for the unraveling of society that the media makes them out to be.

[@appleriver3934]

My favorite podcast yet!

[@canyonhaverfield2201]

We are so complicated ! In turn so deeply buried in headspinning forms of distraction...many comments below point out ridiculously petty issues..like calling her as 'valleygirl'n' ....so get of your hugh horse people ! Her message is solid...if you want growth, get out of your own way ! Do it with flow that makes you feel good & is so tangible...you can bite it! I learned golf by understanding the result of hitting that little target was about the way i approached the shot ...from my walk up to it- my selection of club- how i stood over the ball- how i gripped the club- my confidence level- wind direction- & then my stance, followed by the entire swing..bottom to top then back down then up again to the follow thru....practice-practice-practice !🐾Canyon

[@Alfakkin]

She is a very intelligent person and able to help other people to understand their own minds and motivations. I really love this interview, thank you Rich!

[@vead4152]

Thank You For This 18:07 !!!! 28:28 01:01:01 01:05:15 01:38:55 22:00 24:00 1:41:30 1:45:10 33:16 50:44 59:30 1:35:25

[@anewagora]

The intro was so refreshing as a youth advocate. I spend so much time dealing with people who were suffocated in childhood by authoritarianism and showing people how open life and play in the world can be. To create what you really wish to see. It’s wonderful and liberating. Literally it feels like a deep back crack and shivers when I move through creation.

[@saikalemil2157]

Kelly is a super smart person and wise!

[@eldoradorail8891]

Let’s not forget changing jobs from a sedentary desk job to a physical manual labour job is also another form of movement you may not have considered. This is the form of movement that worked for me. (34 year old male)

[@4everu984]

Finished my 90 minute walk hours ago...still high as a kite from endorphins. I never exercise /walk/swim/yoga with others. Movement is human!

[@amalsoliman7072]

Thank you so much for such an amazing & inspiring interview. I really enjoy it💜🙏🏻

[@rschadjr]

Love the pod. This is one of the all time best.

[@ketojain2631]

Rich another great podcast! Hey Colleen Patrick-Goudreau has a really wonderful book that just came out called The Joyful Vegan. Do you know about her? She would make an amazing guests on your show. She's helped a lot of people and has done many interviews so I'm sure she'll present really well in your format. She's up in northern California you should have her on as a guest.

[@BeldnerFilms]

I love Colleens new book. It would be great to see her on the Podcast.

[@BeldnerFilms]

Rich it would be amazing if you can get Colleen Patrick-Goudreau on your podcast. I love all the New Years Resolution content that are focusing on too.

[@grocerjohn9272]

One of my movements is barefoot gardening in most weather feeling connection with the earth through the soles of my feel

[@Greyfoxdbz18]

Do you know much about the science of Grounding and its benefits?

[@grocerjohn9272]

NO knowledge really of the science but in practice it seems to be beneficial for me

[@Greyfoxdbz18]

@@grocerjohn9272 Grounding lowers inflammation, stress, blood viscosity, insulin resistance and improves sleep. It can reduce pain, long-term ailments etc

[@grocerjohn9272]

Greyfoxdbz18 thanks for that

[@Alice_Walker]

I love getting my bare feet on the grass too! 👣💜

[@staceysmith5807]

Love this podcast! Inspiring guest.

[@sendingblissnow]

Love this interview. Thank you!

[@tobiaskindlund2291]

This woman is amazing

[@dheerajsharma6212]

This is GOLD

[@nicogaleano-monsalve6217]

lovely interview. Congrats!!

[@evelynbaron2004]

OK excellent sister watched podcast and sent me everything Kelly McGonigal has published; working backward and it's all brilliant, so grateful. Re: music which I get the feeling will feature in future publications (the Mozart effect is well documented but she I think will be more interested in the relationship of music/movement obviously) David Byrne from Talking Heads wrote How Music Works which I know she will use as a reference, brilliant … my partner is 53 and his memories of R.E.M are just as vivid it's a great moment to finally get it. He's in Scotland right now and I found Shiny Happy People and in conjunction with this podcast the video was brilliant. Most of my family and I are very into music in all its forms; I had classical music training piano, gave up on Chopin's 3rd ballad but grew up (am 64, my partner is 53) on Bob Dylan and Motown and am still for all intents and purposes a hippie chick, love Fran Liebowitz etc. And my sis, who knows everybody (in Gladwell's The Tipping Point she would definitely figure as a Maven who brings people together, was lucky enough to meet the late great Tom Petty whose music is vastly underrated and so on. And we connected through her and still working on videos but it has turned into a big project; conversations with this man were always … funny and fraught because he was on the last tour that killed him and he couldn't sleep so the phone would ring and it was an unforgettable experience; am not speaking as a fan, but as someone who had a privileged moment with an extraordinary human being; certainly reinforced my commitment to the 12 steps .. not the place I know. More tx for a great beginning to another challenging decade!

[@JamesScottGuitar]

Big Wisdom right here.... 22:25

[@tomatoeggs48]

If you were to project yourself to next New Year's Day, a year from now, and you were going to look back and be really grateful that you made one change, what can you imagine you could do in the next year that that future you is gonna be so grateful, like it's going to have improved your vitality, your health, your relationships, moved you forward in some way that is consistent with the vision you have for your life? Is there a kind of suffering in your life right now that you're just ready to be free from and what might that look like? Is there a type of joy that you are seeking in your life right now, something like social connection or hope or mastery, progress, adventure, playfulness, creativity, some kind of joy that you're missing that you just know if you had more of it in your life that would be a greater change Only when you have that kind of vision of what you want, then get concrete and think of some choice or behavior that feels like it's really consistent with that, even if I'm not entirely sure what it's gonna look like a year from now. I often will choose a word for myself that's like how I want to approach the year or what I want more of in that year. It allows you to both experiment with behaviors like is this getting me closer to that type of joy or is this actually reducing my suffering or just increasing the suffering and to change your approach as you go through the year.

[@stanzavik]

I'm in love

[@upendasana7857]

Thank you so much for this,it was so interesting.

[@aeroswann]

I guess she really knows how to handle stress cause she doesn't look anywhere near 42 years old

[@_Wai_Wai_]

Age is relative. how old a person looks is a product of their lifestyle.

[@annetteangulo5942]

Literal goals to look 30 at 42 years old 👀

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@Anna M. a

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@Anna M. pP

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@Anna M. pp

[@evelynbaron2004]

OMG my sis is not a twin but we are super close got sober around the same time identify with the impulse to use movement to conquer anxiety; all that; in my case swimming in hers dance … she identifies as a vegan but is super busy on her own and has been catching up with RR podcasts (tx for 2019 summaries) and … one day later The Joy of Movement and The Upside of Stress are at my door, so we're reading in tandem. Heartfelt tx to both of you!!!

[@neftalimonroy278]

She's so gorgeous and smart. 😍

[@samuelk636]

This is so good, Rich!

[@doddsalfa]

Americans are so caught up with success

[@kmichalene]

So compelling. Thank you!

[@ronaldbunde8690]

One wheel movement is like no other

[@markoronie5783]

Someone help me PLEASE! 1.) What does Dr. McGonigal mean when she describes the hope molecule? 2.) While exercise can be addictive, how is it different than other forms of addiction, such as drug or alcohol abuse? 3.) How does the intensity of movement help change your mood? 4.) Does Dr. McGonigal think that stress is healthy, unhealthy, or both? 5.) During Dr. McGonigal's research for her movement book, what surprised her the most? 6.) How does music help some people workout? Thank you!

[@user-bd4bo4tb8u]

School assignment?

[@Markoronie]

@@user-bd4bo4tb8u well its over a month late but yes

[@JK-es9wu]

Great interview .... so interesting ...

[@DanielAlvarez-sl6yh]

Mr Rich🙏

[@L.Hodson]

20:52

[@dm_grant]

Mindfulness: serenity now, insanity later.

[@dpabercrombie]

Is there such a thing as too much movement/exercise that will start to negate the positive benefits?

[@raspberryraspberry425]

Which 21M ted talk she gave they talked about at the end?

[@Alice_Walker]

Hi Raspberry, it's this one it's "only" 9 million views on KZbin but 21 on the TED website 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJSqqomKdtSLe7c

[@paulbateman858]

Great chat, Kelly maybe you"d like to watch out for that kick up questioning tone at the end of nearly every sentence, probably nerves (understandable) but it gets a little distracting. Dont mean to be critical, i have a tendancy to drop pointless words into pauses when i podcast, just trying to help. Great show.

[@luv2cook.]

Paul Bateman so many young women do this..very distracting.

[@pineappleuncleify]

I agree. I have to force myself to continue to watch because of that "question" tone at the end of her sentences. This is something girls started doing in the early 2000's. And thankfully it's now passé.

[@hermanharper4594]

At it's appointed time for me light bulb went on got it

[@UkbunemalYokanlush]

1:06:05

[@JB5D]

30:00 + shit gets real!

[@Radnally]

Stress as a positive...hermosis?

[@Bayo106]

HORmesis

[@nhansinhbui2797]

Are you seeing what I am seeing? The man's gesture showed negative feelings and she used her body gestures to help him feel relaxed while answering the questions. From another perspective, he is boosting adrenaline in audience and she is boosting dopamine in the audience. Together, these two chemical creates a sense of pleasure in the watchers. It looks like a large scale experiment.

[@candeyer53]

Great interview but what's with this "upspeak"? Seems like so many people have adopted this form of speaking and it's so irritating...

[@SpaceAdmiral792t]

whats upspeak?

[@SG-fb9xu]

nicholas burgess ending a sentence with your vocal pitch rising. Kinda implies a question instead of a statement. Basically Valley girl accent.

[@SpaceAdmiral792t]

@@SG-fb9xu valley girl accent?

[@Adventureye]

I just commented on this too. I couldn't even continue watching because I was so annoyed and distracted.

[@dabunnisher29]

Holy Crap, I read about this shit, but she's totally doing it. Pretty freaky.

[@djtoman6875]

I wonder if she's been vocal about the harm that these lockdowns have caused...

[@cyclingfreak56]

Rarely do i spend full price for a book. I usually wait or buy used but i was pretty stoked and paid full price on Amazon. Boy was I disappointed! When I hear of all the time and referencing she put into the book all i can say is she must have saved all the info for a second book? This one is seriously repetitive and shallow. Very disappointed!

[@rwess]

Too much emphasis on "self" in this. Sure good movement is good for you. Rather think in terms of behaving with less harm, toward others and/or the environment in general... Just seek the best way to keep your 37 trillion living cells functioning together, for as well and as long as possible - without doing harm to other subjects-of-a-life trying to do the same. This is self-evident (but, exploitive as we are, we like to deny it, to others).

[@aubreyvandyne5284]

I like moving in cars

[@IVY_YESTERDAY1]

I wish McGonigal would have delve deeper into the muscle and movement.

[@user-vc5rp7nf8f]

She’s quite attractive. Smart too

[@alemorales4905]

and 42?!?! I dont believe it.

[@taylornoles6528]

Kelly has a doppleganger: @aennacole on instagram

[@upendasana7857]

OMG,that Ok boomer thing seems to be an American thing,I first heard it in a fb group and some people used it to basically demean and dismiss someone from that generation,I found it really awful but it seems to be some type of thing over there,not in the UK though

[@madinanematullayeva6142]

I wanna meet with ya, Kelly. I love you. I wanna be one of your apprentices

[@Adventureye]

I'm very interested in the content of this interview but I'm having a hard time with the upspeak. It's distracting and annoying for me. Sorry Kelly.

[@vead4152]

*Petty*

[@wendyeames5758]

@@vead4152 not petty. We learn that this inflection at the end of a sentence means the speaker is asking a question. When they're not, it's grating.

[@littleflor2975]

what is upspeak?

[@Adventureye]

@@littleflor2975 matrix.berkeley.edu/research/whats-upspeak

[@littleflor2975]

@@Adventureye I think I just learned that I 'downspeak'!

[@pifagor1750]

Very nice woman

[@mixingrecords]

21:00•

[@KATROCKCOUNTRY]

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[@ajfan3892]

wtf t u talking about??