RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under Ep 5 | MovieBitches RuView

[@nathancreek6086]

The issue is that Scarlet lied about only doing it at 18, there's pictures of her from 3 years ago in blackface and there's a clip of a racist lipsync from the start of 2020 where she impersonated an East Asian news reader and then lipsynced to Kung Fu Fighting. That was just a couple of months before she went to do the season so she can't have grown and learnt her lesson that much. All it was is "oh shit I'm caught, here are my excuses now give me AU$30,000"

[@klinksss]

Get her Jade

[@radlee974]

THIS PART!!! Do I believe that people can grow, and learn, and become a better person as a whole? Most certainly! But, you need to acknowledge ALL of your wrong-doings, not just some of them. It also takes a hell of a lot longer than a couple months to even BEGIN to redeem yourself. Especially after being such a racist pig. Ugh. I’m soooo over her.

[@ImaginaryMdA]

Sources? As far as I can tell, the idea she did blackface 3 years ago is false.

[@SHIkun9000]

@codenamesharp kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4vFnGaadpKDZ7s here’s the kung fu fighting clip, also from 2015

[@sabz7629]

@@SHIkun9000 she also lipsynced to Survivor and Raining men songs because they fit into the news clip. I'm not defending her and think her doing Blackface is inexcusable but saying this performance was racist is a bit of a stretch no?

[@Rileyann130]

I liked that the queens didn’t really let scarlet let it go all the way. Like they didn’t say “oh it’s okay, it was a long time ago!” They were like “well I would never even think to do that for any reason and it’s honestly gross that you did that. It’s not okay.” And that was that

[@BradleyBoy]

I wonder if the reason there was no Untucked is that the girls tore Scarlett a new one

[@nickwheeler5396]

Art Simone called it out on Twitter

[@amandalagerfeld6849]

Yes based on what Art said there was an explosive Untucked with a lot of talk of racism.

[@mc.2737]

@@amandalagerfeld6849 did she say all that..?

[@My-hat]

Exactly the reason they should show it! Many other queens have done a LOT less and aren’t afforded such protection

[@nickneuharth]

Why did they wait until now to bring this up and not do it when they had actual POC queens still on that could share their POV. This whole season is just uncomfortable to watch.

[@t_ylr]

I would love to know when the producers found out about the blackface. Because it seems like they're trying to create the narrative that they found out because Scarlet volunteered this information, but I don't think that's true. Also, I appreciate Ru and the show for calling out Scarlet and holding her accountable, but it rubbed me the wrong way that as an American Ru decided we're not gonna "cancel" Scarlet and moved on. It would have been nice if the two first nations queens were there to have a conversation about it.

[@klinksss]

But there was no accountability tho. If they don't want to disqualify her, at least donate her maxi challange prizes for charity

[@HeyLetsDoAThing]

I'm just not sure anything Ru did actually served to hold Scarlet accountable.

[@t_ylr]

I agree they didn't actually hold her accountable. I would've disqualified her. They already set that precedent with Sherry pie.

[@queenofdisaster3480]

I have an internet friend who’s an Aussie and does drag sometimes. For reference, he’s met both Coco and Maxi multiple times, and knows a lot of Etcetera’s friends. He told me when the cast was announced that back in 2011 or 2012, as a baby queen and a teenager, Scarlett had done Blackface, but she hadn’t done it since then, and he didn’t believe it was a big deal. He was as shocked as everyone else when it came out that she was doing it in 2018, and now 2020. My personal theory is that when Scarlett was asked to audition by producers, her and her friends went on a massive pr campaign deleting as many pictures as they could and spreading rumors that she had done blackface a long time ago so people would assume any that emerged were 9-10 years old.

[@mrfuzz241]

the cut from etc talking about doing something more refined, to what they actually did is sending me.

[@shineon6495]

it's the way i'm more excited for your review of Down Under more than the actual show

[@DarthSyric]

That knowing smile of Andrew saying “Scarlet is my favorite” just killed me. I love you guys so much

[@jerrydimattia4647]

RU showed more emotion about how much she hates H&M than when talking about racial insensitivity.

[@EJMoreno]

"They're twins. Both named Shania with different last names. Don't worry about it." Holy smokes, I haven't laughed that loud in a while.

[@nickneuharth]

Haha same

[@C_M_R]

(39:55) it's hilarious that Avaryl thinks that Goldie Hawn in DEATH BECOMES HER is eating mayonnaise. Have y'all never eaten cake frosting from the container? I have .... a lot. 😄

[@radlee974]

Oh, so y’all enjoy watching IMHO as well? We stan iconic KZbin queens supporting other iconic KZbin queens!

[@Nachoking19961]

'And ru does none of it'

[@bastioncory6740]

​@@Nachoking19961 I know this is two years late, but I you might be thinking of "Novympia" lol

[@sneakd213]

Can we get rid of Scarlet and bring back Anita and Maxi.

[@brianchau1052]

Another DRT Fun fact: Bandit from Drag Race Thailand S2 actually also used a microphone in her lipsync!

[@tylermirador4578]

Based on this episode and Ru’s H&M rant, I’ve learned it’s okay to be racist, but don’t DARE come onto this show if you can’t afford custom made garments…smh

[@drehzaoo]

Priorities

[@wettowelsandfirstaid]

53:40 well Andrew, you almost did it! 🤣

[@MeganSin]

Off topic, can we get a trailer reaction to the eyes of Tammy Faye? The biopic starring Jessica chastain?

[@nickwheeler5396]

Looking like Christine Ebersole!

[@gymratcarpediem7761]

Ru is saying - "Sheila done already done had hers's" - with his attempt at an Aussie accent

[@MeganSin]

Also I personally believe that the show only brought up the blackface issue because the episode would air during national reconciliation week. Also I want to know why there was so untucked. I wonder what was said. I know in that live apology, scarlet has mentioned that they are actively trying to better themselves and I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but again, I can’t make heads or tails over DU’s production.

[@klinksss]

There could be a greater conversation about race in Australia, but also there couldn't because they only casted 2 poc queens, kicked them off right away and then brought back the only white queen eliminated. No one there had the knowledge to talk about.

[@euvicgo]

And it's sad that Ru as a POC is always quiet! The show made a small post about black lives matter last year and danced around the issue of the racism inside the fandom so my bar is set really low for them as possible allies...

[@anntastic100]

Always love the Star Wars interlude ✌️😜✨

[@MaxCareyPlus]

Mare of Easttown starts slow but gets excellent. Definitely worth a jump in the deep end (although I also thought Guy Pearce has aged rather handsomely, so... 🤷‍♂️)

[@ted34300]

In the UK we had Robertson's jam, where the black toy was a figurehead, you could collect tokens for a badge. The dolls were very common and my neighbour knitted me one. I remember a school assembly where it was explained that although us children meant know harm, these dolls were not very nice: they disappeared over a few years. So to say they were normal and it was just what you saw and heard was true in my early childhood, I was born in 1965

[@kingc1468]

I think I read somewhere that they went to Australia after they were famous in the UK so maybe that's why.

[@geniebysnsd_mp3]

It took me way too long to realize that Andrew was doing when he said that Scarlet was his favorite lol Also I'm sad that no one's made the f(x) reference with E-E-E-Electra Shock's name!

[@joohoneybeee]

I get the song stuck in my head every time they announce her on the show 😂😂

[@standanddeliver24]

The ladies and gentlemen the fabulous stains clip owns my heart ❤️. Literal childhood movie 🤣

[@ariadnestyx1463]

That sign off was GOLDEN.

[@Aibheaog]

Thank you for everything you said regarding "cancel culture" and accountability, Andrew. Very well-put

[@glittery_cucumber]

Andrew has been saying a lot of very smart things recently, not that he wasn't smart before

[@jackatiny6303]

I feel like I want to know Avaryl’s opinion on the wasting of Christoper Lee in the star wars prequels

[@jw7300]

Oooooh yes! Do Serial Mom. It was my family's favourite movie to watch at Christmas ^_^

[@chrisneeley8253]

Hopefully if they do have another Down Under season we have Lucy Lawless as a guest star.

[@kingc1468]

*YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS*

[@Becausing]

Avaryl was extra extra fun this episode! The references and impressions were superb.

[@AnRuixuan]

Rupaul: "Cancel culture" is really a problem with modern day society Also Rupaul: "canceled" Willam, Courtney, Carmen, and Pearl for valid critiques they had of the show

[@euvicgo]

"Canceled" Joe Black because they wore H&M because they have sold all of their DR garments to make it through the lockdown 💀

[@geckohunter123]

I don’t think y’all understand what “cancelled” means

[@SamR1995]

I need to have a looooong conversation with Avaryl about the Star Wars prequels and Calamity Jane which both should of course be retro reviewed once the Drag Race franchise internally combusts when every drag queen ever gets cast 😂

[@countryboy3589]

CALAMITY JANE AND 7 BRIDES FOR 7 BROTHERS YESSSS

[@SamR1995]

@@countryboy3589 Completely agree with Seven Brides for Seven Brothers!

[@TheAnimus666]

Avaryl please tell me you've seen "Heavenly Creatures" starring Melanie Lynskey and Kate Winslet, it's a great NZ film based on a true story, and it's directed by Peter Jackson! Defs worth a watch!

[@a-go-go19]

I love Serial Mom! Can't wait for the retroreview!

[@carveylover]

Avryl I am on season five of Lucifer and I thank you for the recommendation. It is something my dad and I watch together. It is so campy and serious and in on the joke.

[@belzski8110]

Picnic at Hanging Rock is a great movie. I haven’t seen it in over 25 years but I still remember sections of it today. Very eerie. Also gonna ignore you forgetting Doris Day was Calamity Jane 🤣

[@jamescollins9178]

I thought "finest sheila in the bush" was a reference to ANTM cycle 8 covergirl commercial episode where they have to say "G’day mate! He thinks I’m the most beautiful sheila he’s seen in the bush" in an Australian accent.

[@aruzenimon]

LOL I thought the same thing! Dionne’s Australian accent was the best haha

[@waynethecrybaby6882]

"Hhhnn no, we're losing it.." 😂😂😂

[@armand9199]

Michelle: "there are just some things you shouldn't do on tv" **flashes her books on season 3**

[@queenofdisaster3480]

Hi, I have a friend who sometimes does drag in Australia and has a lot of friends in the drag scene. When the cast was announced and there were some rumors, I asked him about it, and he told me the EXACT SAME STORY Scarlett told on the show, that she was young and dumb and the photos were old. he found out at the same time as everyone else that she had done it much more recently than that. He also told me Australian drag is notoriously cliquey. Personally, my theory is when Scarlett realized she might be able to do the show during quarantine, she and her friends deleted all the pictures they could and spread rumors that it happened when she was a teenager so that people would assume any photos that leaked were from when she was younger (which people did, I remember when it was just the photo of her in the Afro before Felicia Foxx called her out and posted more saying that they were as recent as 2018, people were saying it happened when she was a teen and shouldn’t ruin her career).

[@gavrilovadarya]

You two were in such a good mood this episode! It was a joy to watch!

[@gaylejackson9409]

Love the "Picnic at Hanging Rock" reference. Had to watch it for an international cinema class -- amazing film!

[@brettkidney6214]

It’s sad as Karen has seem to of been over hyped. She is talented but maybe not drag race good that we know some queens are. Having you digress is just better than drag race down under.

[@TaylorV61]

"dont close that window!"

[@gabriellaberman]

You two NEED to watch Kath and Kim right now. The fact that you haven’t yet is deeply upsetting

[@Art_911]

Maxie was (And I've seen this in her from the start) Matt Lucas from Little Britten doing the Skit "Ladies" The two crossdressers who run around the countryside in Victorian garb, constantly saying "But we ARE ladies"

[@serenityq26]

loved electra's look. best of the season

[@matheusmarcomoraes]

I love Picnic at Hanging Rock, very ethereal and strange.

[@ZayraParis23]

On the processus of going to drag race, they ask twice if there’s something wrong that can come out about you. I don’t know if it’s « new » (since S.P)?! At least, it was asked for Canada’s drag race 2 audition.

[@kebin65]

Down Under has been hard to watch, but at least we have MovieBitches recaps to look forward to 😂

[@DianaAmericaRivero]

I'm really glad Hugh Jackman taught us all how to eat Vegemite/Marmite on one of his many late night appearances before I went to London. Marmite plus butter plus toast is a nummy, nummy treat.

[@taylerspruce2660]

There’s evidence of Scarlet in black and yellow face as recently as 2018 , so she didn’t tell the whole truth on the show when she claims it was a one off when she was much younger. In fact , shortly after returning from filming , she made an “apology” , other queens including Felicia Foxx called her on it and she responded with “well f*** you I already apologised”. It’s very let me make sure I can win . Also it wasn’t unknown so producers obviously wanted this redeemed racist storyline which is also gross

[@CombinationError]

The way Ru eliminated both of the POC queens very early, to bringing just Art back AND THEN wanting to have a conversation about racism 🤡 the look, it's not good

[@fancyclam8222]

So POC should be safe from elimination because of perceived racism?

[@CombinationError]

@@fancyclam8222 ah yes that's exactly what I said, thank you for your good faith reading What I am actually saying is they could have timed it better, brought Jojo and Coco back to speak their side on untucked or something. You know, have the queens actually affected by the racisms have a part in the conversation.

[@fancyclam8222]

@@CombinationError So instead of them being judged as equals on their skill, they should instead come back solely to give a discussion on perceived societal racism?

[@brittneymiles4499]

If Art wasn't cherry picked to return without a vote, challenge, or explanation... It would be fine. But the sequence of events makes no sense.

[@kingc1468]

Well I agree that it should have happened earlier especially with Coco there for 3 episodes. But it happened now and at least it's mentioned which is something that Drag Race doesn't really do. That doesn't stop us from having the conversation and the queens from talking about online though. Maybe next season it will be more addressed. As for Art I think she was the only who could have come back because she actually had potential on the show. Love Coco but she didn't do well and JoJo wasn't ready. The only bad thing is that they just brought her back without an explanation. Hopefully they'll do the same with JoJo on season 2.

[@RivaG]

actually the microphone thing was done on drag race Thailand first but for some reason nobody agrees with me that DRT was fabulous

[@MeganSin]

I thought of a 2 names based off of fleischmann's yeast. Fistmann’s yeast: it’s the yeast you can do or fishsnatchman’s yeast: it’s the yeast you can do. I know the second name is a stretch but I wanted to be clever and not as crass since the show has such a high standard of that…even though ru literally just said hanging cock!

[@uopification]

I’m as equally excited about next week’s 1 hour long of just ripping production and ru and the family resemblance challenge to shreds…we’ll get there

[@klinksss]

I love Sam Neill. I just felt like it was correct to comment

[@sansnak]

It’s funny because the way Andrew’s feeling about the feedback in the challenge this episode, I’m feeling about your reviews haha

[@hectorabelaarbues9526]

Nooooo I really thought this week was gonna be spain :((((

[@thomasmichael4936]

You guys should do Drag Race Spain if you have the time. It's so much fun and refreshing. Might help reignite the passion for good Drag Race. 😅

[@dante6985]

Rupaul on UK2: How dare you defile my stage with H&M, you $@#@#$$@#@. Rupaul on DU: Aw, you did black face? I bet people on the internet were really mean to you, poor baby.

[@ronansminecraftworld]

My step mom is a kiwi and I watched once were warriors when I was about 11 and it scarred me for life.

[@gretchenbaker7435]

Is Ru trying to say "Kia Ora?" I thought she was saying "Kedda"!!!

[@freckledghost3085]

Oh the gamer girl bath water of Belle Delphine now that takes me back.

[@JanaeSmith]

I dunno, I'm INSANELY PROUD of my Welcome to Fabulous bunt Island beach towel!

[@adrianmateo2831]

Thank you for blessing us with #ShaniaTwat...

[@eduardoalegriarampante639]

I wish Maxi would have done like fake slow motion walking, and taken of her boots and left them in the runway, lol

[@cheryllkiebler9019]

Sheila done already had her'ses( in an Australian accent)😁😁

[@Ericairline]

Is Ru saying “Sheila done all ready done had herses” for down under and I literally just now realized it

[@pyrolusite_d]

The only Sheila I know is the Kangaroo from Spyro 3. Wish somebody had done that like Symone did her Fox.

[@talistheintrovert]

As a person who lived in Australia for all of my schooling years, it is SUPER racist, and the racism is just sort of ingrained into the culture, like a lot of it doesn't even feel malicious, it does just feel like they're ignorant to the fact that those stereotypes are bad. I'm british and they even managed to other me for being different simply for having a different accent. It's,,,, exhausting. Also, there was a baRBERSHOP QUARTET IN BLACKFACE on a VARIETY SHOW in **2009** and that was *broadcast*!!!!

[@bobouin]

Ah, the infamous TaintTwatTwins! Delightful! 😬😂👌🏻

[@sweetandsavoury]

Once were warriors is a fantastic New Zealand movie, if you've never seen it should definitely check it out

[@danpollock1550]

Can we get a calamity Jane retro review

[@jeremybyrd5717]

In the UK vegemite is branded as Marmite. I quite enjoy it, but when you wash the jar out in the sink for recycling, your hands smell like death for the rest of the day 😩

[@glittery_cucumber]

Can't you just put in some water and shake the container around with the lid on?

[@jeremybyrd5717]

@@glittery_cucumber I wish, but it has the consistency of tar so even when you do that, you still end up having to finger the bits at the bottom out 👇🏼

[@mtl443]

Will you guys review All Stars 6?

[@GAZMAN2002]

Maxi mentioned on an interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWfYfmyCZ5imnas that Drag Race Thailand had the first gab with the microphone 🎤 during a lipsync.

[@drehzaoo]

I watch both of Scarlet's apololie videos. I don't know if the things she's doing for reparations of her wrongdoings it's because she's been call it out on the show or because she felt bad for doing all that racist stuff.

[@bruja2591]

I want to go out for a drink with y’all

[@chrisonYTtour]

Really appreciate you sticking with the reviews of DRDU despite all the shitfuckery... as a proud indigenous Australian and longtime fan of RPDR I’m mortified by this season and seriously disappointed with Ru. You can blame poor production, budget, coronavirus etc etc... at the end of the day, the buck stops with Ru...

[@sergiomelendez285]

This entire season is so bizarre. I wonder how it would have all played out with a different host. How do you go from praising a Divine reenactment, ignoring every other unfunny filthy commercial, and then send home Etc? To be frank, none of the commercials were all that stellar but Maxi and Etc felt the far from worst. The lip sync was extremely tight, I personally enjoyed Etc a little more but I’m extremely happy Maxi is still in the game as she’s probably the most likable left.

[@Qcae]

Elektra gave me Kuzco from emperors new groove vibes

[@DumDumDaear]

Speaking of underrated Australian films, Proof has a very young Russel Crowe looking scrummy alongside Hugo Weaving

[@stitchgroover]

Dating the Enemy with Guy Pearce and Paperback Hero with Hugh Jackman both star Claudia Karvan, a legend of Australian film and TV.

[@gretchenbaker7435]

Last word I promise, please watch. bad boy Bubby. Classic Aussie film. Be warned it's ruthless at the beginning but worth it

[@blahmehpfft]

I grew up in central Queensland and had the same doll Karen had the tattoo of it was more ignorant times and alot of the older generation can still hold these views. I didn't realise that those actors were from once were warriors that movie made a huge impact on my life especially after being sexualy abused myself at the time. Wow that just got a little dark. Speak up stop the cycle.

[@yous6392]

get used to disappointment

[@landonbaker388]

Scarlett said she did so much to show she changed by doing stuff like donating to charity's that benefit indigenous people and other things but she still did racist lipsyncs and shows up til she left to film.

[@KayLDay]

I think we all can agree that we all just LOVE Scarlett....

[@dereklouism]

I'm 23 and have never seen a Divine movie. The only John Waters film I've seen is Crybaby. But I'm excited to see Serial Mom now

[@joecalcutt9866]

The start sounds weird cos ru’s saying “Sheila already done had hers’s”

[@freckledghost3085]

With suicide squad two I think it’s gonna have what I dub the James Gunn effect where no matter how bad it’s gonna be it’s gonna be so ridiculous to watch it will entertain for example the game lollipop chainsaw.

[@My-hat]

I have never wanted a queen to go home so badly as scarlet. The only two I can be ok with winning are elektra or Kita. The worst, most ill judged and infuriating season of drag race ever. I know it sounds dramatic but it’s genuinely infuriatingly to watch and actually upsetting. Ive enjoyed the queens (apart from Scarlett). I’ve enjoyed Rhys too. I have hated the judging more than any other franchise. horrible series.

[@janeeyre1990]

It is upsetting. Ru and WoW as a whole have a lot of power. They took something that was formerly underground and exclusive to LGBTQ culture and made it into an international multimillion dollar mainstream industry. And some people take what Ru says very seriously. When I see those in power doing things that I think are unethical or harmful to other people, it makes me feel upset. Because I don't know what the impact will be, but I know it could be bad. And I feel like there's nothing I can do about it.

[@serenityq26]

bush means woman's snatch and also the woods so thats the pun.

[@encolpio8]

Forget about this season already and review Drag Race España!

[@GAZMAN2002]

I'm not sure about Art doing something different on the runway every time she talks she is putting on the Kath and Kim inflection

[@serenityq26]

i know rena from the not hit tv show "sirens" no longer on abc family now known as freeform

[@MISFITaddict]

I meed to know who Karen knows, why she is saved weekly..

[@C_M_R]

(17:12) Karen's reasoning to get a tattoo of a Golliwogs is probably the same as people in the US see no issue with the Confederate flags, or people in the Netherlands put on Blackface to dress as Black Pete -- it is part of their heritage.

[@MatthewJohnHadodo]

Yeah I've been having a lot of conversations lately with other people where I try to express just how deeply rooted harmful ideologies and practices are ingrained into culture. We are socialized for centuries into thinking something is normal and natural (e.g., racial, gender, sexual, etc. constructs and superiority) that it takes time to change larger social structures that reinforce those beliefs. It's easy to say we should hold individuals accountable for our actions (which we absolutely should), but it's not so easy as "person X is racist and person Y is inherently evil," it's much more "this society has for countless generations normalized racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. discourse/practices and we all consume that knowledge and reproduce it whether we intend to our not and so it takes structural change to meaningfully unlearn problematic cultural values." Basically let's empathetically hold each other accountable to do better and learn and grow, framing it from a place of compassion to lift one another up, rather than dehumanize people for perpetuating what is a larger structural issue. It's like shaming someone who uses plastic straws for not being eco-friendly when corporations and militaries are producing the most pollution globally and threatening sustainability more directly; yes, there are great smaller efforts on behalf of individuals but ultimately the focus needs to be on dismantling the larger power structures that are perpetuating harm in the first place.

[@eiephants]

@@MatthewJohnHadodo Well said! 👏