Canonically Stupid (Sense and Sense Ability) (Charmed Rewind)

[@scottt6267]

Paige having no voice and Phoebe not hearing shit from others is just every episode of Charmed

[@kodileigh9210]

Holy crap- it is. And piper being blind to everything not mattering to her!

[@tristiancirca89]

This comment legitimately has me ROFL. It doesn’t have enough likes for me.

[@Faction.Paradox]

*Leo get flung into a wall for the 900th time* Brian Krause: "It's a living......." *Laugh track*

[@Surgemaster2012]

Even though this is one of the few episodes like post-season 4 Allison, I will note that the sisters losing their senses does accurately represent them in some way. Paige losing her voice is how the show often ignores her importance comparatively and how she often has no voice when it comes to helping innocents. Piper being blind is a way of saying how she often fails to see the bigger picture of things, like treating more pressing matters as an inconvenience, over her own priorities. And Phoebe losing her hearing is a way of saying she fails to hear anyone around her but herself, as everyone around her is silent except for herself. I won't lie though, I do get laughs out of this episode and do like Paige's singing at the end of it. The Crone was also wasted as a character.

[@michaelg899]

A new Charmed Rewind! This'll be a good birthday after all.

[@AllisonPregler]

Happy birthday!

[@jankarieben1071]

🎉🎂🍻

[@thomaspalazzolo5902]

They basically act like Velma when she loses her glasses and her entire body goes haywire.

[@gracestarkes2644]

And they act like Velma from the new animated show

[@Wraiven22]

This is unironically one of my favorite episodes of the whole show. It's INCREDIBLY stupid, yes, but in a "so bad it's amazing" way.

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

12:45 - Margoyle is from D&D, it just means "Marble Gargoyle", aka a Gargoyle whose skin is made of marble, so yeah he too is just a type of monster

[@user-lb9xw4xf2q]

"All of this is obnoxious to watch and I hate everyone." Now that's quote for the boxset!

[@doctorhirst9302]

The other day my partner and I were watching Gargoyles on Disney+, and there was some bitchy character called Margo. My partner suddenly made the connection that Margo + Gargoyles = Margoyle, so she asked, "Is she the Margoyle of the episode?" So, yeah, now we pick a Margoyle and Carman in almost every episode of any TV show we watch. For the record, Margo was indeed the Margoyle of that episode. In the next episode my partner picked as her Margoyle some generic goon who seemed to think he was a main character, whereas I went for a stupid jogger who came across Goliath in a park and said, "Huh, I've been jogging this trail for years, and never noticed this statue before." We both agreed that Elisa was the Carman for staying with Goliath all day to protect him in his stone form.

[@AllisonPregler]

hahaha I love it

[@HiperPivociarz]

Allison: It's not a graduation! She's moving from the 8th grade to the 9th grade! Charmed: It's a ceremony! Allison: It's psychotic! They keep inventing new ways to celebrate mediocrity, but if someone is genuinely exceptional, then- Charmed: This is not about you , Allison, it's about Paige. Allison: You want to do something for Paige?! Let her actually have some good episodes! Let her call out Phoebe and Piper for being awful sisters! Charmed: I will not be made the enemy here, you know why we can't do that! Allison: BECAUSE IT'D BE GREAT! Charmed: THIS IS NOT. ABOUT. YOU!

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

It's about the Overproducers, of course.

[@saranemcova5448]

​@kgjames3603Reference to The Incredibles

[@user-lb9xw4xf2q]

Phoebe is definitely guilty of monologuing.

[@treefrog1018]

My Car Man was definitely the Mime! 😂 Margoyle: Piper specifically for not picking up kn the Crone's walking style and stink when Crone tried to convince her she was Paige. 😂

[@andrewollmann304]

Brian Krause working on Charmed was definitely a lateral move. Before then, he was the bully on a made-for-TV movie called “Earth Angel.” The ladies of Rifftrax riffed on it.

[@mikekarman6026]

I can't believe I missed this one! It's one of my favourite episodes in the series! Thanks for talking about it!

[@turbotime1964]

My margole is anyone who thinks Phoebe's column is too edgy. I mean, really. My carman hero is the mime. He mocks the great Phoebe One and lives.

[@Minerdee]

Leaves a flaming scorch mark, “this is why we can’t have nice things” lol

[@ChromeMona]

This podcast is UNHINGED and I LOVE every second of it! Frodo would have stood no change if Gollum Phoebe and Gollum Piper had been scampering about after him shouting “I’m PRECIOUS!” 😂💀

[@christopherb501]

Never get tired of the anti-Halliwell doing her darndest to finally quash the harpy cries of the Charmed Ones.

[@dennisbrochu9490]

Even though charmed is my favorite show I love listen to you guys shred it 😂

[@gracestarkes2644]

At least they didn’t go for the low hanging fruit by calling this episode “Monkey magic” or “Monkey see, monkey brew”

[@IDontWantThisStupidHandle]

I agree with the video 100%, except for the part about you doubting Paige's powers only activating when she speaks. It's one of the few rules tied to their powers that has been consistent since the beginning. She accidentally discovers her power only after saying "that candle" while holding out her hand -- and she always has to say the object/person she wants to orb ever since. I thought it was a pretty clever way to strip her powers by making her the one to lose her voice (and tying it in with the singing stage-freight so the audience wouldn't immediately put two and two together that she lost her voice so she must be powerless. It kept that twist fresh). I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, but I thought that part was pretty clever, at least. That being said, I wish they'd taken sight away from Phoebe, seeing as how her OG power is "the gift of sight" . But, I get they had to weaken Piper the most, as her powers are the most formidable.

[@Life.can.be.smelly.]

That mime was amazing in this episode, but then later that same mime was clapping for naked horseback phoebe and thats not cool

[@michaelthomas5433]

With him now being in France on the Walking Dead spin-off, with I think radiated zombies, maybe Norman Reedus might look back at his time on Charmed fondly.

[@bonniescott2733]

I always thought it was messed up that the Kazi demons were some of the few depictions of POC in Charmed and the writers chose to have them A) Shirtless all the time B) Unable to read and C) Subservient to a white character (though granted, more to their King, but still)

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

This is the show that had their main characters stop giving a shit about/actively murder an unborn baby the SECOND it became a black woman's problem, I'd say it's the most trenchant social commentary ever on TV if I thought for a moment any of it was intentional.

[@adamcammack3534]

Glad to see Norman Reedus went on to better things.

[@crithon]

"now that everyone's turned off the podcast." Well, I'm afraid, I'm in it for the long run!

[@KaiatoMoon]

For once I’m not working when this comes out! Can relax and listen instead of working and listening. Thank you both for another amazing podcast episode ~❤

[@chapomon]

If I recall correctly, the law about not killing Wyatt that The Crone wrote happened in her first episode appearance in the Harry Potter Magical Black Market episode where instead of Diagon Alley, it's just a ren fair. I think it was just a way to explain why the demons don't actively try to kill Wyatt. But everything else done to Wyatt is a-ok.

[@kodileigh9210]

7:20 grade 8 graduation in Canada is a deal because it is transitioning to high school but ironically they still treat you like a child. You must ask permission to perform bodily functions until you are expected to be an adult

[@DigiDestined558]

This is personally one of my favorite episodes. One of their very few, really comedic episodes. After watching Better With Bob's disection of the episode I'm so happy to hear Allison & Phelas' thoughts. 😃😂

[@TheMonarchofMonarchs933]

What a coincidence I was thinking about the scene with Blind Piper and Leo. Now Charmed Rewind is covering it. "Insert an appropriate and snarky Phoebe premonition quote here".

[@Ringer5]

Oh, my god. I wasn't expecting a wake up to a Saving Silverman reference. Nice hit back to my youth.

[@phonybeautrain6520]

I didn't expect Piper to be capable to do a facepalm picture worthy of Jean-Luc Picard but anyone can surprise us it seems

[@jackjackson3769]

Love it !!!.. really missing the Baywatch reviews

[@Mike0908]

this episode was a funny one. i do admit that it's just fun to quote when their senses start failing. phoebe: "Oh my god piper you're blind! piper: "I just said. it's like you cant' even hear me." phoebe: "oh piper it's no use. i can't hear you." i did like though that the crone did manage to hit the sense that would affect them the most. paige can't talk so she can't use her telekinetic orbing compared to prue, chris, penny and billie who use it with their eyes or hands. piper being blind she can't use her powers or she risks making things worse or hurting someone. phoebe's probably the least affected being deaf but she still can't hear any dangers coming her way. and paige's boyfriend was a decent enough character in this episode. i think he was only in like 2 or 3 episodes... later episode they say he's married and cheating on his wife with paige. which makes it harder on rewatching this episode as i thought he and paige could have been a good couple. if he wasn't married to someone else.

[@joemerl1145]

That mime is the real Car Man.

[@lukas11xxf2]

I think its a gag leo being put in water since season 4.

[@cosmiccats15-ju9ic]

The South thinks Phoebe's love advice column is "Charles Bronson cubed"

[@leahmacdonald5122]

Oh god, the moment Phelan said bee queen I had flashbacks to Mortal Kombat Conquest and the Bee women.

[@user-lb9xw4xf2q]

Phoebe's expression in the screenshot looks like she is pouting because there was no more ice cream.

[@LizzieLovZU]

"Maybe they want them to annoy each other to death..." I mean, without the one common enemies, the demons, wouldn't be sure they'd survive living together, piper could snap and explode them all, plus they'd miss torture apparently Maybe the demons should have stopped attacking, step back and watch the massacre

[@sarah-s9y8b]

I'll be the first to admit to Charmed's faults, but I love this episode and always have a great time watching it. Pride definitely got in the way of a lot of storytelling in this show, but I do genuinely think the actors are talented, and Alyssa can shine in comedy scenes.

[@jakeleclerc1712]

I've been waiting for this episode for a looong time haha, love it!

[@kacektv9405]

Probably got mentioned at some point to ya but if I recall The Crone literally told Piper that a law would be passed protecting Wyatt which just means The Crone was even more silly cuz she could have probably levied that fact to hold Wyatt or something but instead she went about all out war with 3 of the most irrational murder hobo's with a plus 4 to Selfishness, Pettiness and a -3 to empathy.

[@brq034]

34:20 Would havd been a good opportunity for PMS werewolf cgi flying out the window.

[@thomaspalazzolo5902]

"Follow your heart." -Shadow the Hedgehog

[@Culturewatcher]

Dial M for Margoyle

[@CaughtDingoes]

Because of how genetics work in this show, Wyatt is born with Piper's evil and Leo's pacifism. He is the mastermind behind all of this. He knows the crone is evil. He knows the Charmed Ones is evil. He knows he is evil. He, as a stupid baby, has to figure out what evil caretaker would help him. Is the crone worthy of taking a chance on? If she is, he has to make her think she earn it so he doesn't give up the advantage of being underestimated. When he realises that she is having a vision of him, she has to go because she knows too much, so he does a murder.

[@brandyloutherback9288]

But that on the DVD boxed set: Canonically Stupid- Allison and Phelan!

[@gracekim1998]

Yay my Wenesday has peaked!❤😊

[@gracestarkes2644]

Coming from a Texan like me, Phoebe's "follow your heart" love advice column isn't exactly pushing any boundaries in the South. If it covered topics like interracial and LGBTQ+ love, perhaps it could raise some eyebrows in the more remote pockets of Texas. But in big cities like Austin or Houston (where she is likely pitching it to), people are more open-minded and support diversity so it'd be fine. Just like anywhere else, Texas is a diverse state, and people's views and openness can differ a lot based on where you are, the city you're in, and the people you're talking to.

[@LaNoLaCola]

But will the horror if the Halliwell sisters best the true face of fear in Captain Janeway?

[@swagromancer]

nobody: Brian Krause: monke? Charmed producers: *nod vigorously*

[@benstone5895]

Listener in the USican South here. It absolutely is like that.

[@treefrog1018]

Plot Hole: Baby Wyatt would pick up on stinky, Not Look Like Family, Crone. 😂 This show underestimates actual babies who would look at Crone with Paige's voice like "WTF? Go away". 😂

[@markuscriticus8278]

The two crone episodes are the ones I've actualyl seen as a kid. I figured it must have been an on-going storyline I just missed. Didn't knwo it was literally just the two episoes.

[@senorstyx3011]

What you described sounds too creative for charmed.

[@pspence9569]

Well, we have 7 primaries in, wait for it, primary school. Then 4 to 6 years in high school. We did not have a graduation after primary school, we were 11, we had a disco during the day, in the gym hall. At the end of high school we had a grad ball, a leaving night and a graduation, all on different nights. You're also expected to attend at the end of 4th, 5th and 6th years. I did not attend a single event in 6th year, it had lost the appeal. And I was old enough to drink by the last one.

[@queenb7013]

They dragged Norman Reedus into this mess???? Yikes!

[@sealedneji]

Well, he was for a long time in The Walking Dead.

[@DavidSeesholtz]

Wait....so the crone is the mom in the quarry...awesomeness.

[@crazyjedi5994]

3:55 Funniest thing I’ve heard today!

[@TamB89]

I had a graduation in 8th grade. But there was no one singing 😅

[@DavidSeesholtz]

I think she can see and hear thought the totem...i remember her putting it near her face for something....

[@nenadjankovic2061]

They use the idea of that "sixth sense" thing in the comics when Phoebe is the last one standing when Piper gets blasted into some different plane and Paige practically gets killed and her consciousness is stuck in the afterlife.

[@michaeldebellis4202]

I think Piper would play Yoko Ono to her baby

[@DavidSeesholtz]

Love cruel Leo.

[@SuperMarioBrosIII]

Allison, did you watch the season premiere of Qauntum Leap last week? Most of the episode took place in the year Ben leaped into 1978. I feel this continuation series has so much potential if only Donald Paul Bellisario and his exwife Deborah Pratt were more involved with the production like the original series. I just feel like it is still missing something? I hope this message reaches you in good spirits. Have a great day and take care. 🤗📺📼🙋

[@AllisonPregler]

I talked about this on The Quantum Leap Podcast, but I haven't watched the new show since ep 15. It just bored me and I'll never care about the team in present day. It's a shame because I want to love it.

[@SuperMarioBrosIII]

@@AllisonPregler I agree. The original series was lighting in a bottle. This modern day version not so much. Albeit it has lots of high octane action but it is missing the heart and the integrity of the original series. They didn't even bother to update the original Quantum Leap theme? This would have been a nice little nod to the original. I believe Scott Bakula was offered a role and was shown a script unfortunately he decided to decline. Now I think I know why. Plus it wouldn't be the same without Dean Stockwell. This incarnation seems to going in a different direction. Luckily I have the complete box set of the original series that can binge watch, plus the original soundtrack album. Oh Boy!🤗🍿🍪📼

[@hellbent18]

You may have heard this already but.... in Canada you go to elementary school, commonly called public school, from kindergarten to grade 8. Then you graduate and go to secondary school, or high school from grade 9 to 12. Then you're done. I know, who cares?

[@turbotime1964]

Charmed Rewind could use more edge.

[@cyclonechaos]

Hey, long time listener of you 2 from back in the day since TGWTG/CA. I was wondering, how you would feel about/if you'd at all be interested in doing something like this for Buffy and/or Angel since they're arguably significantly better tv shows than Charmed lol. But they do have their problems and bad eps I think it would make for an interesting set of vids for you 2. The Highlander tv show also overstayed it's welcome and could be another idea.

[@mathieuleader8601]

what monkeyshines happened in this episode

[@michaeldebellis4202]

Does anyone know where that clip of Alyssa Milano screaming “ this episode was badly written!” is from?

[@AllisonPregler]

It's Sigourney Weaver in Galaxy Quest

[@michaeldebellis4202]

@@AllisonPregler Thanks Allison, should have recognized it, that's one of my all time favorite movies. I'm a big fan, I have Multiple Sclerosis which sometimes makes me really tired and depressed and when that happens the only thing that gets me through is binging things like Witchcraft, Baywatch Nights, or Charmed Rewind.

[@AllisonPregler]

Really glad I could help in some small way, and I hope things look brighter for you soon!

[@cedricdallaire3324]

Yessss😂

[@SadSandy-o2x]

This episode would have been so much better if Phoebe had got the Speak No Evil curse rather than Paige.

[@MrRobot1984]

I’m not even a Charmed fan, but I miss Car-man.

[@senorstyx3011]

Hey it Norman rebus, how can this end?

[@noahasencio8589]

Hi 👋

[@Kriseiri]

reject charmed return to monke

[@KennyFrierson]

Would've been a great episode if Piper didn't make it from her car crash.

[@Cyril29a]

Can you please review the season four episode 15 of Star Trek the Next Generation? It is called first contact and it has Lilith from cheers asking Riker to have sex with her because she has always wanted to have sex with an alian. It is ridiculous and amazing

[@shanghigh20]

I hate Splinter

[@bigbillywillysgrandadventu7737]

I can just feel the BPD aura in this comment section.

[@mastermarkus5307]

Borderline Personality Disorder? What!?