Vegas Movie Studio has been cancelled - Analysis & Explanation of what happened

[@alantuttphotography]

As much as I love Vegas (started with Movie Studio, switched to Pro a few years ago), I would rather switch to another program than support a company that does this type of nonsense. I've left other companies for less.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

What sucks is Vegas themselves didn't have anything to do with the bait and switch, but they will be the ones to lose their jobs if we all stopped buying Vegas.

[@MovieStudioZen]

@Alan Tutt I almost considered dropping everything to do with Magix, but I like Vegas Pro too much to abandon it.

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB That's one of the reasons why I will continue supporting Vegas Pro. They've already put too much time and energy into saving Vegas Pro and it would be terrible to see that go down the plug hole. I find Vegas Pro is still the easiest Pro editor to use, compared to everything else out there!

[@Reyfox1]

@@MovieStudioZen I have other "pro" editors and tried the "First" editor. That one I uninstalled right away. If I can't figure out how to do simple editing without a manual, it's not for me. Vegas, while it does need some improvements in timeline playback, was a natural for me. I had a friend that uses another editor that I too have. He does a lot of green screen. While he could do that with his editor, the results were not good. He asked my how Vegas would handle it. I've never done green screen. In a couple of minutes, I used his footage and sent him the results. Guess what software he is using now... Vegas.

[@adamstar7516]

The main issue is that we are now being forced to go down a subscription route. You used to be able to buy video editing software outright. But slowly one by one they've all vanished and gone down a subscription route. What a rip. Movie Studio 17 was just about the last one left. Thank God I have mine.

[@margaretpruitt6058]

I was one of those people who bought it by mistake, but thankfully they have agreed to refund my purchase. Thanks for the explanation!

[@MovieStudioZen]

Glad I could help!

[@bentzcang1447]

I just bought it, thought that it's an upgrade. I has been using Vegas Studio for many years, but I feel like being fooled & being downgraded. Very very sad !!! .. This is indeed a very wrong move by the company. Can you share with me how you get the refund? I'm not able to find any support emails from their website. Perhaps, it's time for all Vegas users to switch to other software like Davinci Resolve, etc.

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@bentzcang1447 Go to this page. You have to go through a series of questions before you can send a message to support. When you get to the end, there will be a button in the lower right corner. www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/ *Please note that most Vegas Movie Studio users who love using Vegas, are upgrading to the VEGAS Pro. Vegas Pro is now cheaper and you can upgrade to Vegas Edit for only $119. Upgrade links are in the video description.

[@bentzcang1447]

I follow the link & tried to search for it for hours ... But no luck, still unable to find the email or any place to submit the support ticket... :(

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@bentzcang1447 It took me less than 60 seconds to get to support button. 1. Go to link: www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/ 2. Press "Find a Solution" 3. Select "Returns" 4. Select "Search for other solutions" 5. Type "request refund" 6. Scroll to bottom and select "SEND A SUPPORT REQUEST" 7. Now you must login to your account and send your message.

[@MrMuncle]

Thank you for this video. I very almost made the mistake of just upgrading without researching it first! 👍👍👍👍

[@MovieStudioZen]

Glad to be the Internet cop on this one and guide people around the train wreck 👮✋🛑

[@dpphotographyllc]

I have learned from and followed you since I started out with Movie Studio 12. You have done an amazing job in teaching. I will now take your advice and transition to Vegas Pro. I hope to see many tutorials from you regarding Vegas Pro. Thanks a million!!!

[@MovieStudioZen]

Cheers DP Photography 😃 That's what is great about upgrading from Vegas Movie Studio to Vegas Pro - it's the same, only much better - so the learning curve is not that difficult, compared to learning a completely different program. It takes about 12 months to learn and get comfortable with a completely new program, but that time is much shorter when you go VMS to VP.

[@Joe-ik7uu]

Hi Derek, Thank you for your very informative and timely video on the reasons behind the changes to Vegas Movie Studio. Very well covered and I concur with you on how disappointing it is that MAGIX would go about releasing Movie Studio 18 in this manner. I would have thought that in this day and age MAGIX would have a corporate responsibility to advise its users who went to purchase the upgrade as to the changed platform. I like you am very saddened to hear the news about the demise of this program that we all know and love. Your website has been invaluable to me over the years and you have also assisted me personally with many questions over this period for which I am very grateful. I am a “weekend hack” as a video editor but have become more skilled after using this product since Version 10 back in 2012. I mainly edit overseas holiday video (not that there is much of that happening at the moment) and have also shot and edited a handful of weddings and other special events for family and friends over the years. I currently have Movie Studio Version 16 platinum and want to stay relevant so was wondering whether (given my use of the program for editing) whether you would recommend I purchase the Edit or Pro version of Vegas Pro? My main issue when editing regarding sound is removing wind noise when shooting video outside on a windy day and road noise when shooting video from inside a moving vehicle. I would imagine having Sound Forge Pro on board would be beneficial for these reasons. As always any advice is very much appreciated.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Thanks for your message Joe! Unlike many other YT channels, I always read ALL of the comments and reply 99% of the time, unless they are a d*&^head. I love reading messages like yours 😃 Noise reduction is a very important area I need to make tutorials for. The basic audio tools in all versions of Vegas, are not good enough to remove background noise and wind noise. Sound Forge Pro 14 does come with Vegas Pro 18 and will also come with Vegas Pro 19, when it is released in August. Sound Forge Pro also comes with a very powerful plugin from iZotope called RX Elements. 1. You can use the Noise Reduction plugin in Sound Forge Pro to record a "noise-print" of *constant* background noise like computer fans or air-conditioning. The noise-print then gets subtracted and it becomes silent. To do this, always make sure you record 10 seconds of nothing before you start speaking in a video. Use the 10 secs of silence to sample noise floor. Here is link to quick instructions I posted on my forum! www.moviestudiozen.com/forum/sound-forge/2150-how-to-do-simple-background-noise-reduction-wtih-sound-forge-11#10818 2. For more difficult things to remove, use iZotope RX Elements which is a basic Spectral Audio Editor. It has built in presets to remove common sounds and for more difficult frequencies, you can literally "paint them out" in the spectral editor. Just yesterday I upgraded to iZotope RX Standard, which is the full pro version. Both versions of RX work like magic 🧙 3. Will make video tutorials on this topic as soon as I can! 4. In answer to your question, I recommend you take advantage of the 2 for 1 upgrade offer to Vegas Pro 18 now and Vegas Pro 19 for free, when it is released in late August. This deal is US $249, but remember you get Sound Forge Pro as well, plus RX Elements. You will have to login to your Magix account during the sales process, to confirm you have an eligible product already registered. Use my affiliate link here for discounted VP sales page: zen3.me/us-vegas-pro Scroll to bottom and select upgrade link. If you live in a non-USA country, you can set to your currency in top right corner of their website.

[@Joe-ik7uu]

@@MovieStudioZen Hi again Derek. Thanks for your recommendation and assistance with this. I am now the proud owner of Vegas Pro 18 and Sound Forge and very much looking forward to having a play with my new editing tool. At first glance it appears to be very similar in layout to Movie Studio (which I think you mentioned) so all I will really need to do is set up my preferences (I will base these on what I have in my Movie Studio 16) and learn how to use Sound Forge. I am about two thirds the way through editing a family friends wedding so will save it as a new file in Vegas Pro so I can start using the new program. I purchased the program via your link so hope you get some sort of commission for that. I will also be checking out your website for everything on Vegas Pro! Again thanks for sharing your knowledge so freely, you are an amazing resource 😃

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@Joe-ik7uu Hi Joe. Thank you for using the affiliate link. It doesn't cost you anymore, but helps with my business costs. I'm going to push out a quick Beginners Guide for Vegas Pro 18 in the next few days and it will be specifically aimed at Vegas Movie Studio users making the transition. You've made a great investment at the right time and remember if you ever get stuck with anything "tricky", you can post questions on my MSZ Forum! www.moviestudiozen.com/forum/index

[@albertesteva9684]

I made a mistake typing my debit card information. I was about to retype it, as I started listening to this video. Thank you. i went with 17 platinum.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Clarification: In the video, I mentioned the special upgrade offer for VMS users to get Vegas Pro 18 for only $99. The specific version I was referring to is "Vegas Pro 18 Edit" - which is Vegas Pro just buy itself and fully functional. The non-edit version also comes with Sound Forge Pro 14 and costs more. *UPDATE!! Vegas Pro 19 has now been released! Upgrades start from $119 zen3.me/us-vegas-upgrades I will be making new tutorials for Vegas Pro very soon, to help any Vegas Movie Studio users transition to Vegas Pro! Cheers 🤓😃👍

[@kelvinkuwik4395]

I will have to study all these comments and watch your video again to (hopefully) gain the knowledge that I seek, but about 2 (maybe 3) weeks ago I received the email about the $99 Vegas Pro 18 Edit upgrade and bought it (previously have used Movie Studio Platinum V13 and V14). I remember thinking I had seen the same upgrade deal earlier for $149 but it appears that the $149 offer was different from the $99 offer that I received later. One or both of those mentioned a feature to edit "picture-in-picture". For now, can you tell me if the $99 Vegas Pro 18 Edit package feature the "picture-in-picture" editing capability?

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@kelvinkuwik4395 Yes you can most definitely do Picture in Picture. There are two ways you can do this. Simple and Advanced. 1. Go to Video FX and find "Picture in Picture" and apply to top video track FX inside control box for video track. Please note there is also "Crop" fx that can be applied to any video directly. 2. For advanced multi-cam window combinations, read/watch this tutorial: zen3.me/multi-screen-video

[@kelvinkuwik4395]

@@MovieStudioZen Thanks! I just watched your "Beginners tutorial for V14" video and learned a lot there. Most important is that my V14 currently has update 91 and your V14 in the video had update 148 so I still have a lot of the bugs in my V14 which is why I quit using it years ago and went back to V13 (V14 would not import any of my videos that had 5.1 surround sound). But now I know that I need to update V14 assuming that updates are still available. My assumption is that learning more about V14 may help my transition to my new V18 Edit Pro (since your V18 videos are not out yet).

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@kelvinkuwik4395 Vegas Movie Studio was the little brother of Vegas Pro, so what you learn in VMS can also apply to Vegas Pro. Go to this page for update info on V14. Use Magix link and enter your VMSP14 serial number. Download program update and install. www.moviestudiozen.com/doctor-zen-faq/610-vegas-movie-studio-14-update-history

[@kelvinkuwik4395]

@@MovieStudioZen Here is some feedback for you regarding the V14 update from "Build 91" to "Build 148": I simply downloaded and reinstalled V14 over the original install but it still had "Build 91" after the installation process was completed. I then uninstalled V14 and then downloaded and reinstalled V14 and it came up with "Build 148". Hopefully that will help someone else that may be having problems updating their V14.

[@achimforst6097]

Thank you for your frank words about the Magix coup, Derek - in contrast to your colleague Adam on "Tech Dive" who apparently doesn't want to annoy his Vegas/Magix business partners. - I enjoyed working with Movie Studio - assisted by your nice tutorials - for a couple of years and was about to upgrade to Vegas Pro. But then I discovered DaVinci Resolve and am now sure that I found with it the best editing program for me. Even if there are definitely enough DaVinci tutors and tutorials available I strongly regret that there you are not with your joyful videos on my side. All the best. Carry on!

[@MovieStudioZen]

Hi Achim. Thank you for your kind thoughts 😌😊 I am learning DaVinci myself, but it will be a long time before I feel competent with that program.

[@xequation]

'Very dodgy' to say the least. I just bought VMSP 2022. Expected an upgraded version from my VMSP 16. Instead.....OMG.....was not expecting this. As they say in Germany, Ein Reinfall. 😞 Love your car analogy. Spot on! 🙂

[@joemikulak6008]

Derek, thanks for the video! I've been using Movie Studio Platinum since version 12 and have loved it...I never been interested in using another editor, until now. My situation is a bit difficult, because certain videos will not playback in the preview and trimmer windows (I am on Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 17). I haven't been able to find a solution so far, and I am on build 223. I've even uninstalled the program, but reinstalling didn't fix the problem. Since I am currently taking graphic design college courses that require an Adobe subscription, I have access to Premiere Pro, so I guess I need to learn how to edit on that program (but I don't want to!)...

[@MovieStudioZen]

I am aware of only ONE NEW BUG in Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 17. Apple Pro-Res videos have stopped working in version 17. Are they Pro-Res videos? If you're not sure, use MediaInfo to inspect files. I have a tutorial here: www.moviestudiozen.com/free-tutorials/miscellaneous-help-tutorials/640-how-to-use-mediainfo-app If it is a different problem, please post a message on my forum here: www.moviestudiozen.com/forum/index Press Login to create an account. Upload copy of MediaInfo report for videos that don't work and I can help you find problem.

[@joemikulak6008]

@@MovieStudioZen Thank you! I will go to the forum and search for an answer and then post if I can't find a solution

[@everythingphil9376]

Thanks for the info! I guess when it's time for me to upgrade I'll have to start using the big boy Vegas Pro.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Vegas Pro is still my No.1 favourite video editor, compared to everything else out there. It's so much easier to do complex things in Vegas Pro. If you do upgrade in the future, you'll feel right at home.

[@everythingphil9376]

@@MovieStudioZen I actually upgraded soon after my first comment lol. I can't wait to start using it and your Pro videos!

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Hopefully we can curb the problem. Like you said, What sucks is Vegas as the actual dev company didn't want this to happen. Dropping support for vegas as a reaction to Magix hurts Vegas Creative software, the people who did nothing wrong.

[@MovieStudioZen]

I've already said this a few times today. I'm definitely going to be supporting VEGAS Pro into the future. In my opinion it's the easiest to use of all the different Pro level video editing programs out there. Every time I try and use a different program, I get frustrated with all the extra complicated steps you have to do.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

@@MovieStudioZen agreed

[@RoguePlanetStudio]

Staying with Sony Vegas 14 Studio, not upgrading AT ALL!!

[@katarzyna_kmiecik_art]

Is the upgrade from Movie Studio Platinum 17 to Vegas Pro still possible?

[@MovieStudioZen]

Yes. The Black Friday sales promotion has already begun. You can upgrade to Vegas Edit 20 for only $79 US. Vegas Edit 20 is the full version of Vegas Pro, just by itself. Use this link and scroll to bottom for deal: zen3.me/us-vegas-upgrades

[@LegitChristian]

I want to tell you that I did what you told me, to request a refund from Movie Studio/ Berlin, and they graciously gave it. Thank you for your wisdom

[@MovieStudioZen]

Very good 😃😃😃

[@RIPMMD]

I'd like to know who you contacted. i sent an email but all they did was try to get me to switch to Movie Edit Pro (VMS 18) after extolling it's virtues. i replied saying i had no interest in MEP and would rather have VMS 17 Platinum. haven't heard from them since.

[@VonSchpam]

I'm so confused... I started Vegas Movie Studio 10 and have been upgrading steadily over the years as new versions came out to arrive at Vegas Movie Studio 17 and now the upgrade window pops up and I couldn't find a reference for what new features will be added... and now it appears it's an entirely different application?

[@MovieStudioZen]

Vegas Movie Studio has been cancelled. Movie Studio 18 has nothing to do with Vegas Movie Studio - it's a completely different program! Most Vegas Movie Studio users who want to stick with "Vegas", are upgrading to Vegas Edit 19 - which is the fully functioning basic version of Vegas Pro. Upgrade for VMS users is $119. Links in video description.

[@VonSchpam]

@@MovieStudioZen Thank! I almost bought this upgrade... and would have been most discouraged and annoyed to end up with something completely different.

[@The_Ferbguy]

Thank goodness I haven't upgraded my Movie Studio Platinum since version 15. I still use 14 to this day

[@CentrifugalSatzClock]

What is surprising is that you didn't mention whether or not 18 is even usable. I can't pull up the different audio tracks simultaneously so you can control them with fades. There is very little this switch seems to be able to do. But then, I'm not very good at this stuff so maybe there might be a way to make it work? Good video though!

[@miguelangelsanchez5959]

I always receive the suggestion to upgrade to vegas movie studio 18. So I should keep my version 17!!

[@MovieStudioZen]

Yes keep v18. If you want to remove that annoying upgrade window, go to Options/Preferences/General and turn OFF "Use Newsfeed..." Most people who love using Vegas Movie Studio and want to stay with Vegas, are upgrading to Vegas Edit 19 for $119. Vegas Edit 19 is the full version of Vegas Pro 19 just by itself. Use this link to check out upgrade offer: zen3.me/us-vegas-upgrades

[@bornstellar1052]

They still sell movie studio 17 on the Microsoft app store and Steam's app store.

[@IanTupmanOutdoors]

Thanks Derek. Karma to you. The upgrade offer to Vegas Pro is very attractive but who's to say that IT won't be retired ?

[@MovieStudioZen]

I've had a lot of frank discussion with the developers of Vegas, ever since Magix bought Vegas from Sony. They exist in their own little island in Madison, Wisconsin USA and are apart from Magix in Germany. I'm guessing Magix invested a lot of money in buying a large collection of software (Vegas Pro, Vegas MS, Sound Forge, Acid Pro, etc...). No one knows "the numbers" but I suspect the customer base for the Vegas brand was/is very large. Magix was really buying a massive email list of new customers! The Vegas development team were the ones who decided to retire Vegas MS, so they could spend more time, resources and money in developing Vegas Pro into an even better product, so that it keeps up with the competition while remaining uniquely Vegas. That all being said, I truly believe that Vegas Pro is going to be here for many years to come! If a giant EGO or small group of giant EGOs from a different country, decided to actively sabotage Vegas Pro, that would mean the end of them as well.

[@BigDaveTALKS]

Yup i just submitted a request for my refund and now i see i more than likely won't get my refund. I am switching to Premier Pro. So disappointed in myself and them. like you said, i saw it said to upgrade, so i did. Boy i got hammered. But i will now know to DL the free trials first.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Now that the word is out, the pressure is on Magix to do the right thing. Be polite but forceful when requesting a full refund. Many who were initially denied a refund, have now got one in full! Don't give up.

[@BigDaveTALKS]

@@MovieStudioZen thank you again for the info and the effort you have put in to getting the word out. Yes I was tactful and polite. I work in a customer based industry and know how much being downright rude really slows the process.

[@fouryearproductions]

I use Adobe but I really need program that can author DVD/ blu ray. Do they still have DVD architect with whatever version they have out?

[@MovieStudioZen]

DVD Architect has been retired. If you can find an old boxed version of Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 16 in a store, that will include DVD Architect. When I have some spare time, I am going to have a serious look at "TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6" as a DVD Architect replacement. tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw6.html

[@fouryearproductions]

@@MovieStudioZen what about the dvd authoring that comes with the last Vegas or Movie Studio you talk about in the video?

[@MovieStudioZen]

Vegas Movie Studio and Vegas Pro, cannot make DVDs with Menus. They can only burn one video to a DVD without any menu structure. The solution I gave you in my first reply is the best option. VMSP 14, 15 & 16 all came with DVD Architect - find an old boxed version online and you get DVD Architect.

[@VEGASCREATIVEACADEMY]

This is necessary, imo. The softwares, are virtually identical in terms of workflow and basic functionality to the point where transitioning shouldn't be an issue. It's frankly a miracle that a development team this size are able to maintain these two. Unsure with what to feel about Movie Studio

[@MovieStudioZen]

I have been having similar thoughts for many years. It might have become more and more difficult to segment Vegas Movie Studio from Vegas Pro, because it already has a lot of pro features like Parent/Child Video Track support and stuff like Audio Volume Envelopes.

[@osm013]

I am user of Movie Studio Platinum 15.0. This summer i decided to upgrade to 18 mainly because of claimed better GPU acceleration support. The environment, workspace, it is quite dissaster, no more vegas style and possibilities.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Version 18 has nothing to do with Vegas. It is a completely different program from another planet in a different galaxy.

[@osm013]

@@MovieStudioZen i tried to give a chance to Movie studio and edit one simple project but i am even more angry now. This product is not able to remember/save stupid rotation of image and in next project load it stays unrotated.👎👎👎

[@gamer-dv7vt]

idk if someone can help me, but i use vegas pro 18 and have some bad problems with it... when i use keyframes and then close my program and start it up again after 2 days or so then all my keyframes are moved to the left... and i just dont know how to fix it. Can someone help me with this? thanks a lot!

[@ErnestStevenson]

This is why as soon as Sony sold to Magix I switched to Premiere Pro. I knew this would happen but did take longer than I expected. Vegas Pro will be next!

[@MovieStudioZen]

I almost switched to Premiere Pro when Sony sold to Magix, but I refused to be extorted by Adobe and have to rent for life. Here in Australia, Adobe was charging a much higher amount for a CC subscription and I couldn't justify or afford that type of monthly expenditure. Vegas Pro should be here for many years to come. I know some of the developers personally, and they have assured me that Vegas Pro is here to stay and will now have more time and resources to make it better.

[@ErnestStevenson]

@@MovieStudioZen I completely understand about Adobe as I was skeptical at first too. However, more and more my workflow included Photoshop, Lightroom, and After Effects. Plus most everyone I was working with or collaborating with was using Premiere Pro and After Effects. Yes, I pay a monthly subscription but all updates are covered and I have access to over 30 applications and stock footage. After using Premiere for a few years now I wish I would have made the switch long ago. I hope you are correct about Vegas Pro. It's worse when you are forced to change platforms.

[@Trusteft]

With requiring rent to use it lost any chance of having me as a customer. I refuse to use any software (or stream entertainment) with the subscription model. I don't want to give "you" money every month. It just makes me physically to want to vomit. I am not even kidding. That's one of the main reasons I kept using (and upgrading) Vegas software. Because I could buy it ONCE.

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@Trusteft Vegas Pro and Movie Studio are NOT subscription only!!! You can still buy the program outright if you choose that option. Press down arrow in BUYING options and you will see different ways to buy/subscribe.

[@Trusteft]

@@MovieStudioZen Yes I know, I was talking about Adobe.

[@Ardie1962]

Thanks for the heads up. I have 13 and 16 movie studio platinum suites on 2 desk tops. The video editing I need depends on which one I need or use. I'm content with both of them. No real reason to upgrade. Really sad to see that there won't be a true upgrade in the future to the suite's.

[@MovieStudioZen]

I still get messages today from users who are using even much older versions of Vegas Movie Studio. I am really sad that Vegas Movie Studio has been canned, but Vegas Pro is definitely here to stay and is an option for VMS users to upgrade to if they can afford it.

[@fmbray_]

I fell for it. I feel bad for it too because I thought it was going to be just like 15--I upgraded to the platinum 2022 version, which looks absolutely nothing like what I was using. I'm so angry.

[@Svendus]

Thank you so much Derek all best to you i am now using CyberLink PowerDirector 19 Ultimate it is affordable and easy to use and have a very good 360 editor inbuilt. We were already disappointed when German Magix bought Sony Vegas and we bought Magix Video Pro X9 with a promise of a inbuilt 360 video editor but it has a completely different and confusing interface with its own and useless file browser, and absolutely no support for Hardware Acceleration GPU support.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Hi Svend!!! I remember you 😃 Just between you and me, I am seriously considering learning how to use CyberLink PowerDirector properly and start making tutorials for it. It's on my short list as the replacement video editing program that I can teach beginners. I've actually had Power Director on my computer for a few years now and have used it a couple of times. The Director Suite is really amazing, especially their colour correction tools! If I do start teaching Power Director, I'm going to start a NEW KZbin channel and keep it separate from this one.

[@Svendus]

@@MovieStudioZen Good to know Cyperlink even makes it possible to make your own H264 and H265 profiles for 5,7 and 8K video Link: svendus.se/blog/?page_id=2506#.YPT9-S1eChA

[@Velkro5000]

This is a huge bummer! I paid $99 for Vegas Pro 20.0... used it a few times. Went to use it today. It wanted to update my license, and when it did it showed old dates, as if I had it for 3 years, but I've only had it for a couple months. No call center for help?

[@MovieStudioZen]

What exactly is the problem? What do you mean by "update my license"? Do you mean it was asking you to download the new build version? Please know there was a bug in VEGAS Pro 20 that affected everyone in the last 10 days. An emergency patch/update has been released, which fixes the problem. Go to this link and download Build version 403 and also download Deep Learning Models 20.5. Install both updates and VEGAS Pro 20 should be working just fine for you. www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-20-build-402-403--140736/

[@thomasrodgers3705]

Thanks for the video

[@MovieStudioZen]

You're welcome 🙂

[@MaciekKycler]

Well, I'm afraid it is the beginning of the end for entire Vegas lineup. I don't know if Magix has any pro grade products, but if so, then we know the future...

[@MovieStudioZen]

Vegas Pro isn't going away, any time soon. Vegas Pro is developed by the USA team and they are very serious about continuing to develop it. Magix in Germany are the ones that tried to bait and switch without any explanation. Magix does have a "pro" editor called Video Pro X, but it isn't at the same level as Vegas Pro. If Vegas Pro was canned, that would be the end of everything I think.

[@EnmandsBand1]

question is - if I don't upgrade from Vega Movie Studio 17 Platinum to Vegas Edit at 119 Euros - what else should i get for making multicam band videos??

[@MovieStudioZen]

You can make multi-cam videos with Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 17. I made a tutorial on this recently. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpauh3Sdj8-qpq8 I have no advice on leaving the Vegas eco-system. If you leave Vegas, their will be a steep learning curve. If you upgrade to Vegas Edit, you won't have to re-learn everything.

[@EnmandsBand1]

@@MovieStudioZen thanks, I have already watched your multicam video and used it to make band videos :-) I find the audio aligmnent process can be tricky yeah I guess I will just upgrade, they put the price just where it hurts but still can be accepted, just... EDIT: Yup, bought the Vegas Edit upgrade, it looks pretty much like Movie studio but I guess I will find the differences along the way

[@Sawlon]

Will my Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11 still work on another pc in the future if I have the cd and serial number for the activation? For my simple editing, it works fine for me.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Old Sony versions should still install OK on different computers. If you have a problem, you can login to your Magix account and deactivate Movie Studio Platinum 11 on old computer and use on new computer, however you should be able to install on 2 separate machines at the same time, with no problems.

[@alanbeamer9513]

Will Vegas Pro be retired too in the future ? If yes, why upgrade ?

[@MovieStudioZen]

I can confirm that Vegas Pro is NOT affected by this change. VP is not going anywhere soon and I will be continuing to make tutorials for VP and support it. The development team for Vegas Pro in the USA has already invested a huge amount of time, blood, sweat and tears in making sure it stays up to date and useful for users.

[@kelleyfilms8954]

I have movie studio platinum and Vegas music maker. Does that effect me using these programs?

[@MovieStudioZen]

Your existing programs will still continue to work, but the are no new versions of "Vegas Movie Studio/Platinum" now.

[@kelleyfilms8954]

@@MovieStudioZen ok thank goodness I ain’t got the money for a new program rn lol

[@ynyslochtyn]

So sad that magix have betrayed one the very best video editors.

[@miatafunrun3078]

Thank goodness I only downloaded the trial version and didn't pay for it. At least I still have the old real version...

[@CrazyMike2]

I just tryed to download acid and movie studio and the installer downloads but the server it uses to get the install files is down so nothing is installing

[@MovieStudioZen]

Try again later.

[@dms9275]

Ever since Magix has taken over the Sony Vegas & Movie Studio products I have not been too keen on the way this company does business. I upgraded to Vegas Pro 18 and it keeps on crashing all the time. I have to switched over to Davinci Resolve. You can get a fully functional free copy of Davinci Resolve or buy the one time Full Version that comes with unlimited upgrades . Davinci Resolve is more robust and a lot more powerful than the Vegas Pro software.

[@MovieStudioZen]

If you have already switched to DaVinci, you have done what I lot of other Vegas Pro users have also done. Vegas Pro 18 has been really stable on my computer. To find out why it was crashing all the time, you need to have a forensic look at everything in your workflow. Some video formats can play up in Vegas and need to be converted to Apple ProRes, Avid DNxHD or Handbrake .mp4. If you were using videos from Mobile Phones, that is the most likely cause of problem, because most phones record to Variable Frame Rate, which Vegas hates. Converting to Constant Frame Rate fixes that issue.

[@WesleySnyder]

i use movie studio 13 can i still get 13 platinum? thanks in advance.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Sales of all Vegas Movie Studio, Platinum & Suite versions have now ended online. You may find a boxed version of a Platinum at Best Buy. If you could buy a boxed version, you can then download any free program updates online, once you get a new license key.

[@gman9904]

@@MovieStudioZen Today Amazon is selling all versions of VEGAS Movie Studio 17, both boxed and download. $40 seems to be a good deal. I am using version 12 now. I am upgrading to 17 now. Tried Davinci, it does not run on a AMD 5625.

[@Selepri]

Thanks for this. I don't have 18. I have some weird issues with 17 platinum. It's rendering my videos as a little rectangle in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen. How do I fix that??

[@MovieStudioZen]

Please post your question on my MSZ Forum. This is the best place to ask detailed questions, because we can share screen shots if required to diagnose problem. www.moviestudiozen.com/forum/index Press Login button to create a free account.

[@Selepri]

@@MovieStudioZen ... Thanks. I'm currently reading how to use your page. Not sure where to post my question, though. I don't see a place to start a new account. I only see the login that tells me I don't have an account. I'd love to be able to send you a screenshot of what I'm looking at because it's crazy.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Press LOGIN button Then press "Create an Account" at bottom of Login box. www.moviestudiozen.com/forum/index

[@Selepri]

@@MovieStudioZen ... Done✔️ In the Vegas Movie Studio forum, I posted a pic and video of what I'm dealing with. It's so good to actually be able to communicate this to someone who is responding.

[@YoRonLucas]

I love Vegas and don't want to see it go away. I've been a customer since Vegas was their own company before Sony acquired them. Each time I try another program, I miss the "Vegas" way. Now that Vegas Movie Studio is no more, I decided to upgrade to Vegas Edit 19, which appears to be a basic Vegas Pro 19? Anyway, Magix is offering a reasonable upgrade price to Vegas Edit and I did it. Magix, now please to screw around with Vegas Pro.

[@johannes914]

Thanks for the info. So I suppose it's time to switch to HitFilm Express...

[@MovieStudioZen]

That is a good free editor.

[@AndreaRodgers]

I upgraded by mistake and tweeted them to finally get a refund. How do I get 17 at this point? I had 15 but it was deleted.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Version 17 is no longer for sale online. You may find a boxed version from a physical store. Most people that want to stick with Vegas, have been upgrading to Vegas Pro 19. Vegas Movie Studio owners can buy the upgrade to Vegas Edit 19, which is the cheapest version of Vegas Pro. It is currently $119 for the upgrade. Use links in video description.

[@AndreaRodgers]

@@MovieStudioZen Thank you! That’s what I just did this morning!!

[@MattJaissleFilms]

If I buy Vegas Movie Studio 14 or 17, etc new from eBay, can I still install and register it?

[@MovieStudioZen]

I would STRONGLY recommend NOT buying old software on eBay. Too many scammers in this department !!! There are also bugs in those versions of VMS, which will never be fixed now, because the program has been retired. Some of the main bugs are caused by updates to Windows, which stop some functions from working correctly. I would recommend you consider upgrading to VEGAS Edit 20, if you own any older version of VEGAS. Or simply buy VEGAS Edit 20. VEGAS Edit 20 is the full version of Vegas Pro, just by itself. VEGAS Pro is the big brother of Vegas Movie Studio, so it works in a similar way. Links in video description for these deals. Final thing: About twice a year, humblebundle.com often sells older versions of Vegas Pro at a massive discount. So if you don't have much money to spare, check that site from time to time.

[@azlanah]

I bought the movie Studio 18 and i can verify that projects done on vegas movie studio 17 earlier can't open properly with the new 18

[@MovieStudioZen]

I wouldn't even try opening old "Vegas" projects in this NON-Vegas video editor. If you want to use this different program, start everything from scratch - a clean slate!

[@Sky1]

What is Vegas Pro Edit 18?

[@MovieStudioZen]

1. Vegas Pro 18 Edit is the full Vegas Pro 18 program just by itself. It IS Vegas Pro!!! 2. Vegas Pro 18 (more expensive) is Vegas Pro 18 + Sound Forge Pro 14 - this next level gives you 2 programs. 3. Vegas Pro 18 Suite is Vegas Pro 18 + Sound Forge Pro 14 + a stack of very powerful 3rd Party FX plugins. I'm sure you've read my comments, but just to remind you. You can get Vegas Pro 18 Edit now for only $99, if you own any older version of Vegas. There is also the $149 2 for 1 offer, to get VP18 Edit now and VP19 Edit for free when it comes out in August some time.

[@zeeh7438]

Here's the problem I see. Lets say if I decide that I don't want to move on to another editing software and I chose to stick with Movie Studio 16 Platinum, which is what I currently have and use it till it no longer works in the future, then I stick to Vegas Pro Edit... who's to say that Magix won't get rid of that one day? So they're only left with one version and the subscription suite, and so forth. Magix has made a really odd choice here considering their customer base really values options, but more importantly when we buy commercial products we expect transparency and support. The very least they can do is keep supporting what I have until I see which direction they're heading in before I can decide, if they go all adobe in 2024 - beyond then that will when I switch.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Vegas Pro is NOT going to be DELETED! Vegas Pro is here to stay for a long time. The USA division of Magix is 100% responsible for Vegas Pro and they are going all in on making Vegas Pro as best as possible. Magix Germany are the ones responsible for creating confusion. Magix has invested a lot of time and money in purchasing and developing Vegas Pro. They are not going to destroy that any time soon. How do I know all this? Because Magix USA made public statements about this on the official Vegas Pro forum. ALL versions of Vegas Pro can still be bought outright. The new subscription option is just that - another option. YOU make the choice of which way you want to buy/rent.

[@zeeh7438]

@@MovieStudioZen Thank you for confirming that for me. I look forward to that when I eventually need to upgrade, I'm perfectly content with sticking with Vegas eco system, since I'm already used to it. Vegas Pro Edit isn't much of a huge upgrade price to me my concern was also about the changing products and price models. Do you have a vid comparing Vegas Pro Edit to Movie Studio Platinum as it's a viable future-proof upgrade? I would be interested in something like that.

[@MUNROSnCORBETTS]

Hi Derek. I have just watched this upload( i know ) And i cant believe this! I bought Sony Movie studio 13 platinum on the advice of your brilliant videos about it and i swear by it. It is for me unbeatable. And today i upgraded to Windows 11 and im happy to say it still works (thank god) Any way WTF is going on here!?!? Vegas/Movie Studio is THE software to use final answer. Nothing else touches it and never will! So................whats happening who made this stupid idiotic decision? Its been a year hence now so please can you update me on this bull****? Thanks, peter :)

[@DarkClosetOfTheMind]

Vegas Studio was/is a great product, shame it's going away. That being said this is like the auto industry. I.e. being shocked your Toyota Supra is actually a BMW.

[@MovieStudioZen]

Agreed!

[@leocatz]

I've been confused and less than pleased, ever since Sony sold the program off. Perhaps there's a gap for a new player to step in? A lot of intermediate users aren't going to (and have no justification to) upgrade to SVP.

[@MovieStudioZen]

There are a lot of "consumer" level video editors already in the market and some free ones. None of them are perfect and they all have some problems. Once the dust has settled, I plan to try and review as many of the different options as possible, but that will be a BIG task.

[@leocatz]

@@MovieStudioZen That would be a big task indeed. But, since the it's Movie Studio leaving the line up, perhaps going in order of the most like to less like. Perhaps by features or similar capabilities or similar workflow. That might make your earlier reviews most helpful (and likely to be viewed)... and as view drop you'd know where to stop.

[@dezm101]

I just got tricked. I was wondering why I couldnt figure out how to use the upgrade wtf

[@denisdore643]

It sound like Magix just hara kiri themselves. Trying to hide their stupid move is the very best way to break confidence with their customers. What marketing genius made that decision? Sounds like their in trouble and this will make run away their customers very fast. Their suspicious Vegas 18 offer tells everybody: "The offer at 99$ is the last version of real Vegas program upgrade you will ever see." We can take advantage of it, but It sound clearly like bankruptcy sale for Vegas products. Thanks Derek for this breaking news.

[@Reyfox1]

Where was this mentioned?

[@denisdore643]

@@Reyfox1 HI Pierre, I should have said "means to me" instead of "tells everybody" which is my own interpretation of the whole thing. Sorry for the confusion but I'm quite convinced they'll drop Vegas pproduct sooner than later.

[@MovieStudioZen]

It's quite the opposite! Vegas Pro is not going to be cancelled as well !!!! Vegas Pro 19 is coming very soon and it is definitely VEGAS PRO and not Magix Pro. The special $99 upgrade offer was done for Vegas Movie Studio owners who don't want to leave the Vegas ecosystem. It is an amazing one time low price, to help out anyone who is on a tight budget. The discount is NOT a sign of imminent bankruptcy.

[@denisdore643]

@@MovieStudioZen Happy to hear that my assumption was totally wrong.🤪

[@bca7839]

Vegas team can't support two products. So they want to focus on Vegas Pro and cut Vegas Movie Studio.

[@Oleg__]

It's sad. Just as it is sad to look at your taskbar in Windows 10, and understand that the new flawed Windows 11 no longer allows you not to group icons in the taskbar, leaving captions to them, plus a compact view of the taskbar. That is, the classic Windows taskbar has been significantly reduced in functionality for the first time for many years. Thumbnails on folders also stopped being displayed, which is unthinkable. Now all folders look the same and it has become much more difficult to visually navigate among them. If all these remains in the final version, then for me Windows 11 does not exist.

[@oBuLLzEyEo1013]

Damn so it just stuck in my PC forever in limbo...

[@ardithconley2628]

This is black Friday week. I get popups. For movie studio due to having version 17. I thought that interface looks like MEP to which I had both. Truthfully I liked MEP better but it crashed a lot on me. I do not think this is a bad thing.

[@Dr23rippa]

Timing of this is quite obvious, lots of people are editing video stuck inside... KZbin is huge now everyone owns a camera... But this idea of also paying monthly for software is a JOKE!!! I got my first Sony Vegas software in 2010 on Amazon lighting deal for less than £30! I own that forever. The support has gone down the drain also they just want me to upgrade.

[@Sky1]

I wonder if users will move to DaVinci

[@MovieStudioZen]

I know for a fact that many Vegas Pro users have been moving to DaVinci, however you would need to re-learn everything and ALSO need a modern powerful computer. DaVinci doesn't work on old computers.

[@matthysdewet1061]

Just this past week, I changed my laptop OS to Linux Mint, and have done my first tutorial on KdenLive, which is free and available for Windows, Mac and Linux. I clung unto Win10 because of the Vegas Movie Studio suite. I've had a look at DaVinci Resolve, but it would not run on my Linux setup... Other candidates for video editing include OpenShot, Shotcut, and a few others. In place of DVD Architect, I'll use DVD Styler, also for Windows, Mac and Linux. Time will tell if I've make the right move..

[@MovieStudioZen]

I'm not brave enough to try Linux, but maybe in another lifetime when I have more time.

[@deandavenport2411]

they definately scammed me wih the 2022 upgrade. found out after I purchased that the interface/platform has totally changed. been arguing with them to try and get a refund for the past few days. It is ridiculous that they are being so deceptive.

[@LyRiCss718]

😥

[@MovieStudioZen]

😢 😭 😱 😨 😰 😥 😓

[@frontier_music]

So we no longer get updates on Vegas Pro 18! That's not nice. These companies behave so unprofessional. Get your money then drop you.

[@Reyfox1]

I don't know where you got this from. Vegas Pro will have an update version in August, unless this is another "bait and switch" and the "upgrade" is Video Pro X....

[@MovieStudioZen]

@Frontier music Vegas Pro 18 has received regular major improvements & bug updates during it's lifetime. 5 Updates in total so far. VP is still being supported and will continue to be into the future. www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/news-forum/patches/

[@MovieStudioZen]

@@Reyfox1 The next version of Vegas Pro will most definitely be Vegas Pro 19 - I know that for a fact. VP will never morph into Video Pro X - hell will freeze over first before that happens.

[@Reyfox1]

@@MovieStudioZen thanks! I feel for those who use VMS. I've been there several times, and just keep moving forward. Glad VP will be VP. While VP18 serves my needs, looking forward to seeing what's new with VP 19!

[@Diamond-Des]

All Software in Germany are Copy and paste from onother software

[@ElectricLabel]

Magix has never been any good. Sonic Foundry and the early Sony years were amazing, but it hasn't improved much since version 11 and not at all since version 14. Magix never listened to suggestions or even responded to questions. Real filmmakers won't care, they can go on making pro product with version 14 on Windows 7 for as long as they can keep the machines going.

[@shaynefranklin3792]

you be very boring uncle derek

[@MovieStudioZen]

LOL 🤣🤣🤣