Downsides of living in Italy 🇮🇹👎🏻

[@MovingAbroad]

"Downsides of moving to ..."-playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLns1AMrfKe398GuF80498WNAKPm26NRz2

[@valerianocuomo996]

You are an envious liar

[@StephenSmith-ge1qf]

I moved to Italy 10 years ago. There is a lot of bureaucracy, but in general it works well enough and isn't very complicated at all. In my region, too, the public healthcare is good, particularly for urgent and emergency matters. For more minor complaints, you will endure a wait, but you always have the choice to go private, and those expenses are generally tax deductible.. Taxes are no higher in reality than in the UK, and there is no property tax on your primary residence (unless it's classed as extra luxurious, with a swimming pool, etc.) Phone plans are cheap ( €9.99 monthly for unlimited calls and texts and 150GB of data, and no roaming charges in the EU) and internet is quite good value at around €25 a month for a fibre connection. Transport in my area is good, and the train network works pretty well, especially the high speed trains with international connections through Switzerland and France. Admittedly I live in the north of the country, practically on the Swiss border. Italy is definitely a great country to live in.

[@arslongavitabrevis5136]

Thank you for that valuable information, Stephen! From what I heard the taxes in the UK are awful. I am looking forward to moving to Italy (Piemonte to be precise). My Italian is very good, l'unico problema è la mancanza di soldi! 😭😭😭Auguri!

[@shaduwy]

Where do you live my friend?

[@zanav138]

He is not responding but anywhere from val d Aosta,Domodossola,around Lago Maggiore,Lago Lugano and then north Chiavenna,Tirano! Really waste region!​@@shaduwy

[@kathyhirsch379]

@@zanav138 he sad on the Swiss border

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

@@arslongavitabrevis5136 Purtroppo, i sold ci vuole in Italia oggigiorno! We expats kid around, saying that Italy is a 3rd-world country with 1st-world prices (this isn't true south of Naples, however-there, the 3rd-world prices match the 3rd-world reality).

[@user-nz6ib7cc1v]

Americans are like “OH NO THE HIGH TAXES” and then pay 1000 for an ambulance and get into a cripling absurd amount of University debt

[@TheTangofrog]

It was $2000 for a 10 min ambulance last year. Of course, it was in California.

[@michaelplunkett8059]

Yeah, that 22% VAT tax everyday is just a dream. 62 and haven't had that ambulance trip yet.

[@user-lz6hx9mx2o]

You're bound to pay more than 1k on any urgent care many people cant even afford insurance at all elsewhere. If its so bad then how come there are many videos opposite of this. As arrogance grows in worldwide trees, it seems high expectations are what can bring society to a haulting stop. Or you can live at a place where work is nonstop and so is debt and gladly retire to calming life

[@ltcajh]

Retired military- zero medical expense.

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

@@michaelplunkett8059 The VAT is not "added." It's already included in the price.

[@louisdangelo9375]

This video deserves another comment. Medical insurance companies in the US are funded by the government and turn around and charge the insured. Auto and homeowners insurance is through the roof in the US. My home owners policy for my home in Italy is €850 with earthquake coverage. Here in the US, that is double or triple that amount. I can go on about the significant differences. As a home owner in Italy and soon to be a confirmed Italian citizen, I’ve done the leg the leg work. The author of this post needs to do his homework.

[@MsWarriordiva]

As a person looking to retire in Italy, my research has shown taxes to not be that high. I've seen much worse in the US. Yes, I've heard the bureaucracy is really bad. We wait for months for specialists in the US!!! Our healthcare is the worst! Infrastructure is bad in much of the US too.

[@gabrielesantucci6189]

​​​@hillock10You're wrong!!! What problems with electicity? What problems with houses or streets? Our healtcare is excellent and free. Our cities are centuries old and weren't born for cars of course...obviusly they are narrower but it is the same all over europe! Anyway ...the quality of life is infinitely better than in the Us!

[@paulodacosta82]

@hillock10 trump🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@paulodacosta82]

@hillock10 you are talking about the united states of america

[@paulodacosta82]

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[@italo23676]

@hillock10 you're raving with your mind... You're never Italy as you can see

[@dannyesse3043]

Well this video convinced me to move to Italy 😊

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

In bocca al lupo (it's bad luck in Italy to wish somebody good luck)!

[@Coupedevillain]

I love that you pointed out all the potential downsides but also offered some solutions. Good video

[@louisdangelo9375]

I’m moving to Italy. I already have an Italian cell phone with a SIM card for 8.99€ per month and the phone was 129€. Some this information is flawed. The information on paying taxes is inaccurate as well.

[@giulianocorbisiero5004]

Hi which network did you use an whats included please?

[@louisdangelo9375]

@@giulianocorbisiero5004 I have a Vodaphone SIM in an inexpensive phone. I own the phone.

[@fred96ful]

Moving to Italy has a different impact depending from your own background: if you are eastern/Balkan, you'll find itself quite good...while for Africans and Americans it might be more difficult. Mostly because of how good you can speak and understand Italian. And all the Latinos are basically at home, you'll learn Italian in 2 months

[@HudaBu-zt6hm]

Is there any discrimination or racism against foreign people? Especially Arabs

[@Camilla_Kudrin]

Eastern Europeans/Balkan people speak Italian well, in your opinion?😂 I'm from there. I'm fluent in 3 different Germanic languages (English, German, and Dutch). I've learned English and German as a child and Dutch while living in the Netherlands. Italian is extremely difficult for me, even though I'm trying to learn it online for a long time (and even my name is of Italian origin).

[@occhiodisauron25]

@@HudaBu-zt6hm yes!

[@connieb.6061]

@@HudaBu-zt6hm yes

[@cangaroojack]

@@HudaBu-zt6hm Sadly it's a yes, I live in a block and there are a lot of african and arab immigrants, I talk to them on a daily basis, every single one of them is a super hard worker that came for a better life, follows the rules and just wants to provide for it's family, and more times then not when I speak to some fellow Italians (especially older ones, younger are less prone to this bigotism) they want to pin a lot of our problems on their shoulders! And while it's completely true that mass immigration, especially when done illegaly, it's a real problem for a lot of countries in the EU for years the government pinned our problems on immigration. As an example, a big talking point were the 5 billion euros Italy spens yearly on illegal immigration, and how that money could be usen to better the lives of italian. What they didn't touch on his how tax evasions costs us 150+ billions, and how public money wastage on politics and public amministration costs us 500+ billion euros, now how does a 5mld spent on immigrations compare to 650mld of tax revenue wastage compare? But thanks to all this bullshit it's somehow because of immigrants

[@jclavalle8710]

Thank you Raffaelle! I love all your vids!! I loved your Portugal ones and now this one from Italy, where I'm starting to focus next after Portugal, especially after the news about NHR. I'm a retired teacher, and planning to move with my future husband and two friends. But I'd like to know if you can do a video on retiring in Italy with a social security pension and teacher pension. Thanks!!

[@humungushumungus213]

🇬🇧 UKroid stay home

[@carlobellinaso4974]

I was born in the north of Italy and thanks to my job I had the opportunity to visit and stay in Portugal more than 60 times . I wouldn't mind living there, especially in the Lisbon area. People are very friendly and the weather is just good almost all year round, not to mention the food which is delicious. The Algarve region in the south is also interesting from a touristic point of view, but if you want to live close to a big city I would recommend Lisbon and its surroundings ( Ericeira , Sesimbra for example ) . I didn't mention the north ( Oporto , Braga etc. ) because I prefer Lisbon by far .

[@josilcravendish9570]

Living in the central of Milan is expensive not the areas surounded. There are many poor neighborhood in Milan ( San Siro, Q8, Cuarto Di Oggiario… etc.) Of course it also depends of your lifestyle.

[@jasminehasan890]

I live in London and there are poor areas here too. Transport is extremely expensive and the health system cannot compare to the Italian one.

[@alessandrom7181]

"Poor "? 🤦🤦🤦 At most less expensive like in every city of the world..my gosh how many BS said in KZbin..🤦

[@liisliis9106]

why someone should speak English in Italy? they speak Italian! and slow pace of life is the best thing!

[@Queerz4Palestein]

ITALY DANGEROUS

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

Unfortunately, the slow pace means that nothing gets done. This is irritating if you're trying to function here.

[@Queerz4Palestein]

@@michaeljohnangel6359 NOBODY WORKS IN ITALY. THEY ALL LAZY

[@gaia7240]

With "slow pace" we mean that we don't care about anything or anyone, the country could burn down and we wouldn't care

[@Maggus-ts1sj]

11. Cars (more than in the north per capita) and dog poop are blockading every street, pavewalks barely exist - Walking is a nightmare 12. Trash is everywhere. 13. The national cuisine is focused on wheat, sugar and caffeine, making it very unhealthy. 14. High obesity rate and a lot of lazy people 15. Noisy - people don`t give a fuck about your sleep, burning engine vespas are everywhere and all the time, televisions are loud, while walls are thin.

[@shootythings5086]

Italy has 60 million visitors a year and Venice has 30 million a year? I am not sure this guy knows what he is talking about.

[@Iam_MajackTV]

Iam international student studying in Cagliari university. I rent room for 300€ in month. The expensive rooms are around 350 to 380€ . Cagliari , a Sardinian island capital is more cheaper than Milan and Rome. There are no more crime or thefts rate in the city. You can explore many beautiful beaches in Sardinia region. It’s very beautiful and I like it here.

[@antoniomaccora593]

if you are ill and have no money in Italy the ambulance comes for free and you are admitted to hospital for free. if you live in the south in the local markets you can buy fresh food and fruit and vegetables but also household goods and clothes for a few euros. Especially in Sicily. The problem is that more and more rich people are arriving from all over the world and in the coastal areas things are changing for the worse. For us residents.Please enjoy this or similar video BUT STAY HOME !!!

[@Fugazinome]

Gee,your nationals had no problem immigrating by the millions to all over the world.

[@nikleiser5888]

Italy recently made the decision to create a new type visa "the Digital nomand" which could be a huge chance for foreigners.

[@jhonnydiamond]

100 reasons to not live in Italy wouldn't be enough. Source : I'm Italian

[@ezeee595]

Why do you say that?

[@sebastianmizzon1462]

​@EZeee some Italians are known to be very pessimistic and always very unhappy over the italian government.

[@ezeee595]

@@sebastianmizzon1462 all governments are bad - not just Italy’s.

[@MsWarriordiva]

You're actually saying 100 reasons wouldn't keep you out of Italy. Correct?

[@lawtutoring]

What about venice?

[@LibrePapillionJaune]

Hello, please do a video on Switzerland.

[@mediterraneanworld]

It is all very subjective - you cannot describe the issues connected to moving to another country in less than 9 minutes. Lots of stereotypes and taking certain circumstances out of proportion. If I were a foreigner with little attachment to the country - I don't know that I would move him (on a long-term basis) unless there were both compelling reasons and I had both a high level of command of the language as well as cultural literacy insofar as history, pop culture and understanding of the mechanics of the bureaucracy and daily life so as not to become reliant on others and not always come across as lo straniero - that you will always be considered but having a high command of the language will make all the difference. People undervalue the importance of this.

[@patriciamoore3318]

I speak Italian , yes it does.

[@saamdotexe]

Internet and Mobile plans are not expensive AT ALL. Italy is the second cheapest country for Price x Gb in the world when it comes to mobile data. For home internet a standard rate is €25/mo x 1Gbps of internet, it's gonna cost you double that in the US for the same speed. For mobile you can get 150GB for less than €10/mo

[@Agg1E91]

That last point reminds me of the job interview joke where the candidate is asked about their biggest weakness and they respond that they just can't help working too hard all the time.

[@glidercoach]

2:21 A tax rate of 23% on income of from €0 to €15,000. So if your costs to live are €400 a month and earn €450 a month your take home pay will be €346.50? Not a chance. The truth is, from €0 to €7,000 is tax free.

[@dylansmith8078]

Awesome stuff, an you do a video on moving to Iceland

[@ltcajh]

Ireland is SO expensive!

[@Alis-um8et]

Is the guy who does this video german?

[@jasminehasan890]

😂

[@Kim-J312]

The Italians are also known for their friendliness and outgoing and little loud just like Americans 😁

[@gaia7240]

Yeah that is false

[@garmin1488]

the grass is always greener

[@giuseppebenvenuti2396]

And what about mafie! I wish what it was here before 1861

[@francesconasoni7048]

I'm from Italy and I'm surprised by how much this video is accurate. There are lots of information that people from abroad ignore about Italy, such as long queues for health care, overworming of city during summer, crime related to poor rubbish management, and many more.

[@jasminehasan890]

Try other countries then

[@connieb.6061]

you forgot a number of italians try to scam you out of your money every chance they get

[@tonychinnery]

I haven't noticed the worms in Italian cities. I think there are more in the countryside.

[@stefanomarchesani8804]

Nowadays worms are a bless..it's becoming highly renomated food. Gnammy🤣

[@milo5524]

Per i miei gusti, eviterei le grandi città (vivo a Roma).

[@andrewdiprose]

infatti

[@gaia7240]

Non lo so in provincia è pieno di criminalità e non c'è lavoro

[@tanner293]

as italian I would say you are pretty on point except that internet is not expensive at all, pretty cheap actually, you did not mention that some regions suffer the political and economical influence of the mafia lobby

[@jasminehasan890]

Organized crime is everywhere

[@LP-ho9ty]

The bureaucracy stereotype should be really updated in these cut and copy videos. Especially when aimed to a Country like USA where filing taxes is a nightmare and not a click on a app on your mobile phone and mailing cheques is still a common practice

[@389293912]

Rome still uses Roman Empire bridges in some places. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[@mr.archivity]

We also use romans streets, walls and a lot of infrastructures. They are even better than modern ones sometimes

[@brie1987]

If you live in Italy, you are a citizen of the EU. That is a huge benefit of being Italian. People who are natives of a country know all about the things they hate about their country that no one else can really understand. Familiarity often breeds contempt. Nowhere is perfect.

[@uditfonseka]

these are not really serious draw backs-----some are even good reasons to move to Italy.

[@francescogiordano5544]

People without work are 7.8% as i'm writing

[@girishsavant2302]

Most hospitable people is the joke here. Anyway IMHO, mass illegal migration is the #1 reason to avoid Italy.

[@jasminehasan890]

I was born in Italy I have ended up living abroad and I have regretted it.

[@angestella9180]

Italia le seul pays plus beau d'europe ok

[@lindadavisondodson8825]

In some places in Italy the tap water is both high in calcium and sometimes has low pressure. The mosquitos are also pretty bad.

[@gaia7240]

It can also be polluted and not knowing

[@jasminehasan890]

@@gaia7240really?

[@gaia7240]

@@jasminehasan890 yeah there was a scandal few years ago, they say now it's safe but I don't trust them

[@stefanomarchesani8804]

Yes we have also flying donkeys

[@alessandrom7181]

​@@gaia7240that can happen everywhere in the world you utter tur@..

[@howardmckenna]

I plan to retire in Italy. Nowhere fancy, far away from any of the big cities. Just live a quiet life in "old" Italy.

[@timeless6464]

Don't do it. There is no "old" Italy anymore and those places are either uninhabited, full of old dying people or they have very little infrastructure. Not to mention the small towns that are getting overrun with migrants and immigrants not all of whom are nice or kind.

[@howardmckenna]

@timeless6464 ... Molise is still "old world" Italy. For now!

[@timeless6464]

@@howardmckenna You have to be careful to move to an area that doesn't have earthquakes (and floods). Abruzzo has quite a few earthquakes. Basically if you can find cheap houses and flats, it means that everyone's moving away for a reason.

[@donnaanderson5669]

I'm not going to Italy to look for a job I will have my own money

[@tancreddehauteville764]

WTF??

[@AntonioTorcoli]

If you have your own money you will live very well in Italy. But I advise you to choose a medium size town. They are very safe

[@Amor_Fati_]

Basically if you speak or understand Italian just get out of the US. America has lost it's touch IMO

[@Bottegadgfh]

Are you from India ?

[@jasminehasan890]

😂

[@georgemouzakitis1876]

Still it is the most beautiful country in the planet!

[@Nomin3]

I’m planning to move to Italy from Asia, and… Is there any racism experience?

[@MicheleOngaro]

as an italian: I won't lie, there is some racism. If you want to live in Europe with the least racism then probably the Netherlands is your place. I'm 44 and I've seen that nowadays younger people are much more mixed than when I was in my 20s, so, probably, racism is more rooted in the older generations. I don't want to discourage you, but maybe live here for a few months and then see if it suits you

[@sarahharris2729]

where from Asia? As long as you're not Muslim or Hindu you're probably fine.

[@mr.archivity]

Depends on who you meet. Another point is the group you mingle with. For example Prato: in the city of Prato there is the biggest Chinese group in Italy. The problem is: there are Chinese teens that mingle with Italians and Chinese teens that don’t mingle with Italians. (I am saying Chinese but they were born in Italy, just to differentiate) Italians treat those that mingle with them and speak Italian normally. Especially if you speak a correct Italian fluently. The ones that don’t mingle with Italians are treated worse. Not that they are discriminated against, but there is a growing dissatisfaction again them for various reasons. One reason is that they don’t want to speak with Italians, try to not to mingle with Italians and some of them directly are against Italians. A lot of Chinese business in Prato directly forbid Italians! I saw Chinese restaurants that don’t accept Italian clientele and will physically attack you if you try to enter one. The problem is that these group of people that: reject Italians, don’t want to speak Italians and refuse whatever association with Italians; are growing. Obviously Italians are dissatisfied with them, even more so because these groups have subsidies from the Italian state that even Italians don’t have. Sometimes you can see on the news that Italians killed themselves for not having enough money to eat but you see non-Italians getting the money and insulting Italians too… Well, I raged a bit. Anyway the point is: If you speak a correct Italian, respect Italian laws and mingle with Italians you will be accepted. Even if you find someone racist they should be the rare and even if you find them probably they are being like that because they associate you with the groups against Italians. Talking with a small community is better to be known. Another thing is “being made fun of”. Italians do that a lot even with other Italians, but that isn’t racism. They do that for a “Italian” sense of humor. For example a northern Italian make fun of southern a or from another city, but that is normal in Italy.

[@gaia7240]

From Asia yes, especially if you have kids they will get bullied a bit in school

[@timeless6464]

Don't move to Italy. It's a very racist country. You won't be able to fit in here and you won't get a job other than the worst jobs ever that Italians don't want to do.

[@robertoposa1120]

You don‘t get the point of living in Italy - are you german?

[@arslongavitabrevis5136]

According to his accent, I would say "Yes!"

[@gaia7240]

I'm Italian and I don't see the point as well

[@abdullahtarifa1616]

See

[@robcig]

You lost me at, taxes and bureaucracy.

[@Kim-J312]

Italy taxes your retirement income , NO thanks ! . We don't do that in my state of US.

[@joarvatnaland6904]

Sure? Retirement is classed as normal income most places, and it is normal to pay income tax on that. As retirement money is normally a bit lower than a normal income, the tax bracket can often be smaller.

[@Kim-J312]

@joarvatnaland6904 yes everyone in US pays federal taxes . But the actual retirement money /, monthy payment from retirement account for example, your 401k, 403b IRA, social security payments ect ect in , my state doesn't Tax retirees is not taxed . If you are getting for example, 1,500K per month from social security, you get 1,500K per month it is not taxed . If I was living in a state that taxes retirees, I would not get 1500k/month , ( I'd be taxed) . But usually in states such as mine , they usually get you paying higher property taxes , sales tax ect ect ect. Therefore I will only retire in states that don't tax retirees 👍 .

[@mediterraneanworld]

the video is 8 minutes and does not explain the complexities of tax for foreign residents - it depends on where you are paying the tax and how - you may not have to pay anything OR you may pay tax here and then be exempt from paying federal taxes in the US - you don't get taxed twice. @@Kim-J312

[@carolsardinha507]

@@Kim-J312 you do realize that if your money is in a tax deferred 401K 403B or traditional IRA, you will pay federal tax when the money is withdrawn.

[@medeatatum6468]

Social security in my state is taxed!

[@angelodichiara7909]

Sull'ultima non ne sarei tanto sicuro.

[@NickWixo90]

Salve! un caffe con latte par fover

[@nicolettastrada5976]

And who is fover?

[@micah_rosenberg]

Italy is only a good vacation destination. Do not be fooled by some video clips.

[@nicolettastrada5976]

Si esatto stay clear

[@gaia7240]

Agree

[@ruisgallego3239]

I have the feeling it's better for you to stay in your house...you do less damage

[@timeless6464]

You're right. For a holiday it's perfect, anything else, it's terrible, not a good country to live in.

[@antoniodimperio2418]

I agree with all the drawbacks you mentioned. I have to disagree with the friendliness of Italians. You might find them friendly and welcoming when you're a tourist and are bringing money in the country, but when you are a resident, you will face the rudeness and arrogance of people. My advice is to stay away from this place!

[@TENEBROLESO]

antonio ma ndo vivi nell'arena di Verona come gladiatore?

[@antoniodimperio2418]

@@TENEBROLESO 😂 no, semplicemente vedo che cosa accade attorno a me. La gente è fredda, indifferente, a volte rude. Ho avuto esperienze migliori all'estero.

[@andrewdiprose]

infatti solo in Sicilia e Campania sono amichevoli

[@arslongavitabrevis5136]

I think is very unfair and rude of you to say something like that. I lived in Italy (Rome) for a year in 2005 and most people were nice. Of course, the situation was easier because then I spoke Italian very well. However, I have to say that I found Neapolitans nicer and friendlier than the Romans.

[@antoniodimperio2418]

@@arslongavitabrevis5136 I am Italian and I've been living in Italy since I was born. I know my country fellowmen well, I'd say. Trust me when I say that the vast majority of them is far from friendly, at least compared to the friendliness of other countries where I have travelled to.

[@Tyranthraxus78]

High crime. 😅

[@MicheleOngaro]

homicide rate 100k: Italy 0.6, Germany 0.9, UK 1.2, France 1.4.

[@nafvol5053]

60 million people and only 300 homicides a year so crime is low

[@ellenmorse8559]

In large cities, you find crime anywhere you go. Otherwise it’s quite safe! 😊

[@gaia7240]

@@ellenmorse8559 I beg to disagree, I live in the countryside and once saw aan get stabbed in front of a restaurant and no one moved a finger and kept eating because we are so used by now

[@robertoposa1120]

@@Tyranthraxus78 yes be aware they might kill you - that would be a tradegy

[@Kabirio93]

Downsides: Decadent state. Provincial mentality, stupid north vs south mentality, politics, horrible job market. Whats left? Pizza, pasta? lol

[@grace-sw4zx]

Actually Northern Italy is one of the most prosperous regions in Europe.

[@mr.archivity]

Yeah, reduce over 1000 types of recipes to pasta and pizza…

[@gaia7240]

@@grace-sw4zx and it's still not good

[@robertoposa1120]

@@Kabirio93 wow you are the king of wisdom

[@ruisgallego3239]

you are usually stereotyped...pizza and pasta don't exist in Italy there are billions of dishes

[@gabrielesantucci6189]

121 likes and 21 comments in 7 months! They show a lot about this video! 😂😂😂

[@valerianocuomo996]

How many lies

[@antoniomaccora593]

Se non hai soldi vivi meglio un Italia che all estero.Si vede che tu te la passi bene.

[@antoniomaccora593]

@@valerianocuomo996 sono d' accordo con te . Anche io ho girato l Europa .Voglio dire che in Italia , nel mio paese me la passo meglio. E anche in caso di pochi soldi uno se la passa ancora meglio che all estero. Clima , cibo,assistenza medica etc..