MOZA R12 Racing Bundle - Best replacement for my Fanatec gear?

[@CrazyOldCatManCode]

That new Moza active pedal is making me thinking of going into their ecosystem

[@SarahNocchi]

Definitely a game changer. Curious to see what the price will be!

[@Breeezy333]

Lol…. U might want to wait for that price tag.

[@nicopinzel]

@@SarahNocchiprobably under 1000$ per pedal If that confirms, the simutek (or simalpha?) active pedals for 3000$ will have a problem

[@Breeezy333]

@@nicopinzel Simucube $2000 per pedal… you’re also assuming the build quality and more importantly the performance is even close to the Simucube pedals which they won’t be. There’s too many ppl not understanding Moza is brand new company pumping out products at cheap prices that are C+ at best. They’re not revolutionary and or changing the game. There’s just so many new ppl in sim racing now, noobs drinking the cool-aid.

[@TheInsaiyan]

That eco system also won't lock you in. The KS wheel can be used stand alone with a cable

[@Tillhony]

I went from a g920 I used for 4 years to a R12 earlier this year. I have improved a ton and the Moza set (pedals, handbrake, shifter) has no complaints so far for me. 💯

[@SarahNocchi]

Awesome, glad to hear that! I think Moza is really getting better and listening to their customers, which makes them one of the best options right now

[@robertjager-pe7hk]

Great review, thanks. Always good to see what alternatives there are on the market. Still happy with my Fanatec gear though.

[@SolarScorpion]

Finally the oscillations are fixed? Nice!!

[@MUTILATEDFILTH]

They sure are. Installed the beta update and can now take one or both hands off the wheel without it shaking my rig apart lol

[@tver]

Regarding the mounting discussion at 3:10, you can mount a Moza base upside down (hanging on its screws) and change the shaft center in Pit House to still have the wheel centered with the right side up.

[@SarahNocchi]

Oh I did not know that! Thanks for letting me know. May be a better option than the way I currently have it

[@TheSytak]

I also mounted it upside down, but corrected it via the screws to not ever have to think about it again with software updates :)

[@nicopinzel]

@@SarahNocchiin Moza you can go into the pithouse software and hit „Center“ on the wheel site. Therefore where ever your wheel is positioned, it gets set to 0°

[@RuibalJc]

I have an r12 and really like it. I hope you'll get some good racing in, good luck!

[@SarahNocchi]

Definitely a solid wheelbase! Thank you! Next F1 video will be with this bundle ;)

[@matt_gtuk1807]

I got the R12 and KS wheel. Upgraded from the thrustmaster T300 and difference was massive.

[@SarahNocchi]

I bet! You made the right choice for sure! ;)

[@IAmUltraMAGA]

Great video!! Thank you for posting the whole update process! I was looking everywhere for it. Really liked the small video and the cockpit view at the same time, with your commentary through the headset. It made it "feel" like you were more in the car making a more immersive video!

[@SarahNocchi]

Glad it was helpful! And appreciate the feedback. Definitely still learning how to make my videos more interesting/entertaining ;)

[@SurlySX]

Damn, what a great video! I loved every minute of it!

[@SarahNocchi]

Happy to hear that, thanks a lot!

[@revento5544]

Great choice on the wheelbase, especially at that price! I ve had a moza r12 for 6 months now and this ffb update is what it needed. In terms of power 12 nm is all I need, I use most of the power but still have a bit of headroom. I had the csl dd 8nm before and that was a bit lacking.

[@Willie256]

Moza gang since day one! All gear still works as it did and only getting better. I am so glad fanatec was out of stock when I was looking to buy. Just think about that quick release and having it 3 years ago😊 not a fanatec hater I run thier v3 clubsport pedals and clubsport shifter. But glad I went moza on the base.. good video and once you get it dialed in youll never look back

[@tonygeddes9558]

I went from a G920 to a Simucube 2 Pro. That thing has 25Nm but in reality I only use 10-12 most of the time. That R12 is great value!

[@SarahNocchi]

Can't really get anything better than Simucube. That 2 pro is insane and will probably last you a lifetime haha But agree, 12nm is more than sufficient for most drivers!

[@ricardoa1661]

welcome to the MOZA gang Sarah 😃 i love my KS wheel i use the bottom paddles to look left /right . im kinda drooling for the CRP2 pedals

[@SarahNocchi]

Thank you! The KS wheel is great and looks really cool. CRP2 pedals look like a great update, definitely would love to try them as well!

[@voongnz]

i didn't realize that fanatec wheel was 270mm, that's tiny. i think the ks wheel should have been 290mm, the sweet spot for me.

[@yungpot]

I forgot about sim racing for a moment

[@ArjanSchepers]

What sim

[@jamiemb17]

Sell your rig now, traitor

[@ChrisKoller513]

the pants really do it for me. hair too. very pretty girl here.

[@ribasiba8726]

You could also say what an interesting gear u have there.

[@C0RSAAA09]

Men of culture 😏

[@raulgonzalezblanco766]

THANKS I HAVE THE R12 AND JUST FOUND OUT THE UPDATE, WORKS DELICIOUS!

[@SarahNocchi]

Happy to hear that! :)

[@edjunker]

R9 and KS user here. I think they are the best bang for the buck in sim racing right now.

[@SarahNocchi]

Agree! Really amazing products for the price

[@antjones2281]

I just picked that exact combo up . Then they went and dropped the price of the R12. I hope I won't miss that 3 Nm

[@edjunker]

@@antjones2281 I haven't yet. Love teh KS wheel.

[@steffendetrick]

Just so you guys know, it’s some fat sweaty dude that works in editing that’s replying to all of your comments😂

[@SarahNocchi]

@@steffendetrick honestly I wish I was successful enough that I could pay someone to respond to all comments but it’s actually me 😂 and I enjoy it!

[@the.dragoon]

Try upgrading your DD1 with a QR2 and see if you get those rare disconnect issues. Going from a QR1 to a QR2 is a serious upgrade in itself

[@SIMRIG412]

DD1 and DD2 have been garbage since they released and have never been what fanatec claimed they would be!

[@mutha_fnmikey2325]

@@SIMRIG412naw, the firmware 442 update fixes all the issues. You don’t know wtf you are talking about bro. And yes the qr2 is the way to go.

[@mcgoo721]

Didnt fanatec just go bankrupt?

[@XBBlade]

Thanks for your video, very helpful. R12 is on its way currently

[@SarahNocchi]

Glad to hear! You will love it

[@SIMRIG412]

Moza r12 or simagic alpha are both better than anything fanatec offers!

[@SarahNocchi]

I think their value is definitely better nowadays!

[@Rrrryamm]

Fanatec a mis plus de 2 ans avant de nous sortir enfin le QR2. Pas de nouvelle roue GT, tout est vieillissant

[@Alessandr_G]

My clubsport DD Is fantastic..

[@SIMRIG412]

@@RrrryammI agree

[@SIMRIG412]

@@Alessandr_G not really! The clubsport dd is garbage I had one! It was nothing but problems and all it was is a csl or gt dd with more nm. Nothing was amazing with it! Went simagic alpha and was 1million times happier and then bought a r12 for a second rig! And even the r12 is way more powerful than the clubsport dd and now the r12 got a software upgrade which made the ffb even better. Fanatec does f even realize it’s 2024 and the only wheels they have with backlit buttons is a $1500 bmw wheel no one wants or can afford and there half ass rally hub that doesn’t even fully work right! Fanatec is so far behind it’s not even funny! Shows why fanatec is 70 million euro is debt and I bet it’s more than 70million euro by now 😂🤣

[@itherealykb1317]

I have the R12 v2 since last year and I really love it, the 3.0 ffb update is exactly what was missing.

[@SarahNocchi]

Yes, it makes such a big difference! Really glad they released this firmware update

[@TimmyTheSnail]

My Fanatec CSL DD has oscillation on straights. Definitely not just a Moza problem 😂

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Easy to dial out though on the csl dd. Wasnt as easy on moza up until now

[@TimmyTheSnail]

@@GregoryShtevenshhow do you dial it out without losing FFB details?

[@P.G.33simracing]

Thanks for info waiting on delivery of my order 😁 great channel very informative and very great racer keep up the great work 👍🤜🏾🏎️🔥🔥🔥

[@SarahNocchi]

Thank you so much! You’ll love it! Let me know when you get it

[@P.G.33simracing]

@@SarahNocchi got yesterday connected today 👍 loving it 👍🏎️🔥🔥🔥

[@SarahNocchi]

@@P.G.33simracingawesome!! Happy racing!!

[@coxyofnewp]

Good Call - especially with the new DD drive Beta drivers - make amazing difference

[@Klastgg]

I am a Moza user and I am so happy 😊 thank you for the amazing video ❤

[@SarahNocchi]

My pleasure 😊 And thanks! Definitely enjoying the Moza setup a lot!

[@mcgoo721]

Excited to see the iracing journey with this! I want to get into simracing myself but never really followed the content around it

[@The.Fast.Farmer]

I went from fanatec to MOZA after I stared having weird issues. Best move I’ve ever made 😎

[@SarahNocchi]

Seems like the way to go now!

[@o.s.racing]

I bought a DD+, it arrived faulty. Over 3 months on I’m still waiting/fighting for a refund from fanatec. I would rarely say this but Endor deserve to be bankrupt. Hopefully a more competent company will take on Fanatec and restore it. I had to buy something else and still have a dd+ waiting to be returned and refunded

[@JZA80DEADONEX]

Seeing this I’m glad I didn’t go fanatec and went with the Moza r12 hope you get it sorted soon man, can believe that fanatec has such poor customer service

[@KiliansCreative]

Im sure that was an easy choice considering how terrible Fanatec has been plummeting over the past year. Great choice. Moza is a great company and are coming out with some incredible hardware. Simagic here!

[@Keks1976]

The video somehow looks very "sponsored" to me. I will definitely stick with my DD1 for the time being. Regarding Moza, I ordered their new FFB flight stick and have been waiting for it for weeks. And at Gamescom on Wednesday I wanted to test the stick at the Moza booth , but unfortunately the staff were completely incompetent. The stick didn't show any effects, not even the thrust slider was properly assigned in DCS, I then did it myself - so so far my experiences with Moza are not so great.

[@Rich-pj9wv]

Very

[@revirdkcalb]

Agree. Definitely at the very least some bias towards Moza.

[@elisamuelcuadrado2144]

I don’t think it’s biased at all. She’s giving valid points and still mentioning how much she likes multiple things about her Fanatec gear.

[@MayneRacing951]

I’ve been using an R5 for a few years now. I’m planning to upgrade to a stronger base and I’m debating between an R12 and Simagic Alpha. Thanks for the quality review!

[@SarahNocchi]

Glad it was helpful! I think both are great options but I do not have personal experience with simagic. Let me know what you end up going with!

[@Andybarney555]

Every simracer being given. Moza products now.. RIP fannytech. You had a good run. New king. Wont be missed.

[@tigerbalm666]

I has R9 and GS wheel, Fanatec V3. it's been perfect so far...the updates are frequent and easy.

[@knight896661]

You can mount it upside down and still have the steering wheel in the upright position as its a direct drive and has unlimited rotation so just mount upside down and you can have ur mount the right way on top and put the wheel at the right level after that

[@SarahNocchi]

I might try that out! Thanks :)

[@mkatakm]

Wow! The second female sim racer I have seen in my life. A beautiful sight for sore eyes.

[@reinholdhelge6676]

This kind of shaking u can adjust in the software! My R12 arrived today 😊

[@SarahNocchi]

The oscillation was a known problem for Moza, and they list it as a fix for the new firmware. You'll love it, have fun!!

[@JoseFcoBN]

@@SarahNocchi The oscillation is not a problem, you just need a manual configuration, I have the Moza r9 from the first batch that arrived in Europe and without any problem in these almost 3 years, the new firmware only brings a more conservative default configuration, that is the only thing where Fanatec is the best, in nothing else, I had a Fanatec base and wheel in 2005 and in 4 months I changed to Logitec, much uglier, but years without a single failure...

[@Yamahobbit]

@@JoseFcoBN bro this is what happens when these people dont actually know anything about cars or motor racing. She doesnt understand what it is or why its happening.

[@Primo420]

Men of culture, focus on the objective.

[@simsportgadget]

Really great and informative video! We're in the process of testing the R12 update ourselves, curious to see if we get similar results.

[@SarahNocchi]

Thank you, I appreciate it! Let me know. For me it made such a big difference! I saw some other youtuber say the oscillation wasn’t fixed for them though.. I was surprised so curious to hear from you!

[@HulkDevroe]

I love moza . Love from Belgium

[@miguelsoaresracing5902]

You have good settings on Moza's discord for all sims. For me, this base for the price is a great base

[@steam-SMOKEY]

The 3.0 ffb update is very good, very impressed. What's your opinion on their new active pedals, and will you be giving them a go?

[@TravisHi_YT]

I've got an R9 and a KS wheel, you definitely made the right choice going the Moza pathway. I'm so glad I dodged a bullet last black friday sale and didn't get the Fanatec deals! The Moza is sooo good for what you pay.

[@001sander2]

Love their software, I could fool around with all the settings for hours 🤓

[@heldrin4968]

I'm a relatively new sim racer, started last november with the fanatec Csl DD, csl pedals with load cell. I have now changed my pedals for the simlab XP-1 they are amazing and I;m also considering changing my base for something stronger. I was gonna go with the DD+ but with everything going on with Fanatec and the extremely long delivery delay and no store partners I am not willing to give more money to fanatec even though my csl dd was perfect for a beginner. Now I'm am really hesitating between moza and simmagic.

[@SarahNocchi]

Nice upgrade! Before all the drama I would have recommended Fanatec but right now I don’t think it’s really an option anymore. Too risky. Heard a lot of good think about simagic, but haven’t tried it myself. Moza seems really promising and they are releasing so many new products. I think they are a really good option right now!

[@TravisHi_YT]

Depends on your budget, simmagic generally considered the best, but most expensive. You won't go wrong if you pick the Moza I think.

[@garnettslick1458]

I've got moza r9 v2 it is a great wheel great video keep it up 💯 👍 💪 👌🏻 👏🏾

[@SarahNocchi]

Yes Moza has great products! Thanks for watching :)

[@JC21x]

I’m so tempted to swap my CSL DD for this wheelbase.

[@SarahNocchi]

You definitely would not downgrade if you did!

[@Lorenzodial]

Girl looking fit! Very nice set up! I love it.

[@SimRacer184]

It’s a shame that you had to come to that decision in swapping gear. Ive owned a Fanatec DD1 for a year and a half and have loved it up until now. Ive had issues recently that have me second guessing my choice in fanatec. I’m just about to call it quits and swap over to simcube

[@SarahNocchi]

Yes.. I loved my DD1 and my F1 steering wheel. But too much uncertainty with the future of Fanatec at the moment. Sorry to hear you are having issues only 1.5y in.. at least mine lasted a long time so I was ready and open to try something else. Simucube is the perfect choice though, you would not regret it

[@SwigerQ86]

Moza base is the best one ive ever used

[@VirtualRyders]

I tried to go fanatec but they lagged too long and I bought a Moza. And I'm glad I did because the wheel feels like a car and it had the same style quick release as my race car.

[@SarahNocchi]

Good choice! Fanatec has too many issues right now. Love the Moza quick release! What race car do you have?

[@VirtualRyders]

@@SarahNocchi I used to race an AW11 MR2 and a AE86 Corolla. I loved them and how light they were.

[@anthonybenod6397]

my D1 is dead I ordered the Mozza R21 with the GS Wheel. II will receive it tomorrow I hope that with a good adjustment it will be fine thanks for the comment it reassures me a little :)

[@TravisHi_YT]

Wow nice! You won't regret it, how are you enjoying them?

[@anthonybenod6397]

@@TravisHi_YT No I don't regret it in fact with the new beta firmware I find the result quite close to my DD1. a few more small adjustments and it will be perfect ! The QR is better than the qr1 fanatec !

[@ardiantowibowo269]

2:43 just add some (plastic) spacer + longer bolt/screw on the bottom of your moza direct drive to get the right height. 🙂

[@Toutvids]

Seeing that I already have 4 different wheels, a shifter, an ebrake and a great set of pedals for my Fanatec CSL DD and it only takes one USB port, I won't be changing brands any time soon. I can switch from GT style racing to Nascar to F1 to Rally in seconds. This setup would cost a fortune to replace in a different brand.

[@SarahNocchi]

And you shouldn't! Sounds like a great setup. I loved my Fanatec gear. Made the switch because of some issues with my DD1 wheelbase and I think buying Fanatec today is risky.. Moza has improved so much recently and I think they are a perfect alternative with a very promising future. Their new products are exciting

[@Toutvids]

@@SarahNocchi certainly, I have watched Moza closely, maybe in a few years I will change brands, who knows.

[@superdanilof1tube]

When I saw your video about the Cammus C12 I fell in love with it. So I had an idea to try to seek a partnership with them to reduce the shipping costs to Brazil but it was impossible.

[@MUK012]

7:52 The way you hold the steering wheel 🤣

[@rocket3369]

I am ps5, fanatec is my only best option unfortunately. Nice review👍👍

[@SarahNocchi]

Thanks! Fanatec is still a good option. But hopefully other brands will make gear compatible with PS5 too

[@rocket3369]

@@SarahNocchi Fingers crossed, however, Sony compatibility is terrible so I don't see it in any foreseeable future. Thanks and good luck

[@purplepurplesaurasne]

As soon as I read into Fanatec having lots of issues with shipping and meeting any basic service demands I shopped Moza and haven't looked back. The R9 setup is fantastic, would have went with a 12 but my F-GT Lite cockpit wouldn't do OK with that many newton to the meter. You definitely have to get into pithouse and adjust the stuff for proper feedback. That is a detractor out of the box, not as easy. But Moza is a company that will continue to exist as of all info available right now. Fanatec not so much.

[@JazzTechie]

I want to try force feedback in a pedal - although I'm a bit curious about what that simulates. The wheel seems to make sense, but not sure what sort of feel I'd get through a pedal in a real car.

[@vandrayketv1316]

Moza is just the way to go

[@SarahNocchi]

I think they will replace Fanatec in the future

[@vandrayketv1316]

@@SarahNocchi I’d argue they already have. The prices can’t be beat for the quality you get.

[@SarahNocchi]

Very true!

[@mikepierson4519]

I made the switch from the DD1 to the Simagic Alpha U recently and have been enjoying the switch. I wanted a formula style wheel with a screen.

[@japstersinc]

You will notice that as you adjust the "Road Sensitivity", the values in the "FFB Effect Equalizer" adjust automatically.

[@hollywoodkid9195]

You got the base huh 😬 so I own the R12 ( bought it like 3 months ago ) and after the recent update I’ve been having telemetry issues with mines. I also own a La Prima wheel base from asetek that came in a few weeks ago and no issues whatsoever, with my Bavariansimtec Omega Pro wheel and it’s a great combination. It does come down to preference though.

[@FuturisticViper]

i love the on the fly tuning menu fanatec have with their wheels i think moza missed an opportunity to have that on their vision gs wheel.

[@TravisHi_YT]

Probably only a software release away.

[@MalcomMcLeod]

2:29 Can you restore your grips on the Fanatec formula steering wheel?, they look toast! 2:45 You could probably add spacers and washers and longer bolts to raise your wheel base a bit. Goodluck with the Moza gear, I still like to play some titles on console so I have to stick with my Fanatec gear.

[@SarahNocchi]

Yes they are DONE 😂 4y.. I need to get it restored for sure. And yes, I’ll have to fix the height, thanks for the advice! Fanatec definitely still a great option but I think Moza is the future. Hopefully they’ll offer console compatible gear soon!

[@SimRacingSatan]

Hi Sarah. I think you definitely made a great choice that you avoided Fanatec. Unfortunately apart from the Logistics they seem to have so many problems these days... I am a happy DDPro 8nm owner but thinking about any future fanatec updates has me worried🤔

[@SarahNocchi]

Yes they sure do, unfortunately! I do still like their products, but not the best value on the market anymore. We should know soon about their future!

[@martintop2605]

I think the better option was to go for just clubsport dd wheelbase and qr2. Idk how chinese company that use resellers can be more safer buy. If the reseller go out of business good luck by making Chinese accept warranty request :))

[@markopopov9295]

What you did is a slamp in the face to Fanatec as educational correctional measure in order them to wake up. With skyrocketing prices have to come to an end no matter what or how much someone was really good, or performed on high level.

[@chrissyrw]

We're building a rig with a lot of second-hand parts (I call it the Franken-rig). When shopping pre-loved wheelbases, what should we be aware of? However, for the price point, the Moza may be an option... 🤔

[@mugen9665]

I have sim lab pedals ( see the test, its the best value pedals, just excellent, better than asetek forte or HE ultimate, it s just crazy), simagic alpha mini ( i don t need more Nm), gt neo with a better clear release . The cost is a little bit higher but a lot better than moza, even if your material is good .

[@elisamuelcuadrado2144]

I’ve been getting the same on hard right turns with my Fanatec 8nm base but luckily it comes back after a few seconds without having to restart. I honestly don’t know why it happens but it’s messed up a couple of races for me for sure. I’m debating whether to get the new 15nm or maybe change to Asetek or Moza.

[@joshfps8546]

Simagic also got force feedback pedals

[@maguila7777]

Hi, thanks for the video and review. Do you know if the lower Moza bases (R3 andR5) also suffer the same FFB issue and need a firmware update as well? I can't afford a R12, so I am looking at the R3/5 as an option. Thanks

[@SarahNocchi]

I know the update that they released for the R12 should ultimately be available for all of their wheelbases. I have heard people with the R9 already did it. Not sure if the R3 and R5 had the same issue but if they did I am sure the update will be available ;)

[@maguila7777]

@@SarahNocchi Thank you for the response!

[@jeffreyabbey9592]

Same rig I have. This was helpful. With fanatec going out of business. I would also then need a new mount Which mount did you use? Thanks

[@lakashii]

How come you stopped the F1 course preview/history/drive-and-talk? Those were so handy, I absolutely loved watching them! 😢

[@SarahNocchi]

I am so sorry! I just haven't had time :( work has been very busy. I have also been working on a new format for these, as I have had some copyright issues by using videos from old races.. But I am working on the Monza one as we speak!

[@lakashii]

@@SarahNocchi oh that's ok, don't apologize. I was just wondering, letting you know I did really enjoy them. I was wondering if it was a FOM issue though.

[@SarahNocchi]

Thank you, I really appreciate it! I really enjoy making these but they were not shown to most people because of copyright stuff. Hopefully the new format will help with that a bit

[@edgarg208]

I love my moza R16 over my fanatec DD1

[@SarahNocchi]

I like them both, but I think Moza's value surpasses Fanatec currently

[@edgarg208]

@@SarahNocchi agreed!!!!

[@Andybarney555]

Sure you can raise the mount?. Thats crazy id go for high vs low. Mines always been to low on standard rig. (Gt omega titan)

[@brett22bt]

When a downgrade is actually an upgrade. Moza rocks.

[@SarahNocchi]

Exactly!

[@brett22bt]

@@SarahNocchi I was tossing up between Moza and Fanatech before they had all the financial trouble. Luckily, I chose Moza just before everything went to s h i t e. I've seen people have so many problems with Fanatech stuff as well. Moza is so simple to use and a really solid product. I'm hoping the Moza active pedal system comes in under my budget.

[@SarahNocchi]

@@brett22bt great choice for sure! I always loved Fanatec but hated their customer support. And now the entire thing is a nightmare. Moza is very promising, great value, and they really listen to their customers. I am really curious to see the price of the active pedals!

[@brett22bt]

@@SarahNocchi Cheers, good luck with your new Moza.

[@danielsimpson3238]

if you're using a usb hub it could be that is the reason why you lose ffb i was using one and no force feedback i unplugged it restarted wheel base and had force feedback again i use a moza r9 i was using the moza usb hub maybe that can help some people drove me crazy for days trying to find out why i had no ffb

[@egttn1]

Can i use Thrustmaster pedals and shifter with moza r12 base and wheel right?

[@davidcupra4913]

The fanatec clubsport dd+ is way ahead in feeling to the old dd1 so still beats this Moza I’d say.

[@trafficmax65]

What monitor stand do you use

[@1027hristo]

As far as I remember, Fanatec is also working on rewriting the firmware for CSL/GT DD which should improve the FFB.

[@MegaIronica]

Hopefully if they are still in business. I am also waiting for full force 🤞🏼

[@SarahNocchi]

That would be awesome!

[@key2thesucces]

can i buy that used fanatec from u?

[@Team_Reaper.]

tbh fanatec force feedback feels more refined moza is new to simracing it will take time for them to make ffb more smoother/raw

[@SarahNocchi]

Did you try the R12 with the new firmware? It makes a fairly big difference!

[@Team_Reaper.]

@@SarahNocchi no i try ed r21 it has more torque

[@SIMRIG412]

@@Team_Reaper.you obviously have no clue what you’re talking about. Fanatec is junk and there dd1 and dd2 never felt right! And moza definitely beats fanatec in every way there is! Fanatec fan boys always say moza isn’t good. Meanwhile you tried a moza r21 you say but you didn’t mess with settings or get it dialed in so you can’t even say fanatec won against something you didn’t even truly get setup right!

[@Team_Reaper.]

@@SIMRIG412 im not a fanatec fanboy im a simagic fan boy does my comment hurt you huh ?

[@tver]

Moza have already come a long way. According to RandomCallsign the new firmware makes the R12 feel indistinguishable from a Fanatec ClubSport DD and much smoother and less grainy in general. The software evolution is significant.

[@raytherrien2851]

tweak the setting for the oscillation effects on the straight away.

[@leet9681]

What headset are you wearing 8:05? Thanks!

[@SarahNocchi]

Razor BlackShark v2 pro!

[@matthieuhuegi807]

Hi Sarah 👋🏻 what if you put multiple M8 metallic washers between your base and the support? It could elevate your base while staying steady.

[@SarahNocchi]

Good idea, I’ll try it! Thanks!!

[@StarFox85]

AMS2 with custom ffb, its a different game!

[@reviewforthetube6485]

I just don't like the way moza ffb feels even after the update but what I really care about is the loading and unloading feel the tires and suspension. The snap feeling of edge of grip making us faster being able to push those limits due to the precise feel. Onpy bases I've felt it on are simucube, asetek and simagic. Those 3 give you that feeling incredibly well. But I will say massive update from moza for sure. In the right direction. I will say I do like details on straightaway the road. I like turning and feeling the wheel fight back and bounce. So I like that tbh. After this update moza users will finally realize what they have been missing out on! They always defended that feel you felt at first i was like no it's just not good. But this update did make it good. It was a complete 360 difference in feel for sure! Lol

[@Rrrryamm]

N'importe quoi 😂 Asetek c'est vraiment pourri, les pédales sont horribles, les roues sont moches et la marque n'a rien inventé. Simucube les tarifs sont délirants pour ce que c'est, et simagic pas mal, mais les roues sont moches. Le FFB c'est personnel et ça se règle, et à chacun sa préférence de jeu. Moza c'est l'avenir 👍

[@Breeezy333]

@@Rrrryammhahaha Moza isn’t the future. It’s Fanetec 2.0…. U must be new or newish to sim racing. U ppl who have Moza are drinking the same cool-aid Fanetec ppl had for years. Moza is mid at best and that isn’t going to change. The direction Moza is heading with Active pedals etc. is actually dangerous for them, it’s exactly how Fanetec and other companies lost their way by trying to dominate the entire industry and not having a true identity. Ppl like you laugh at companies like Thrustmaster, Logitech, etc. but they will always be around.

[@grimreaper8038]

Why are you're monitoring hanging downward?

[@Dronetothetop]

The real racing driver said that the 8Nm ~ 12Nm is the most accurate feeling sweet spot and everything else is just scam to sell their product.

[@SarahNocchi]

Might be true. I think it’s a question of what type of cars you drive and potential longevity of the wheelbase. It’s a hypothesis but I would expect that if you are always lower than it can handle, it’ll probably last longer.

[@superdanilof1tube]

And is the Cammus c12 on the same level?

[@titou87123]

the best direct drive base on the market is simucube you have been misinformed

[@SarahNocchi]

I agree. I have a simucube 2 pro on my other rig. Only comparing Moza to Fanatec, not saying Moss is the best on the market

[@buster-thevirtualracer9104]

499$ for 12Nm, that's the real deal from Moza :")

[@SarahNocchi]

Yes!! Incredible value for the price

[@Breeezy333]

The question you should be asking is why Moza is selling an R12 base at that price. Everyone is drinking the Moza cool-aid right now. Lol…. Most Ppl are still new to this industry and how things work. Moza is just Fanetec 2.0

[@buster-thevirtualracer9104]

@@Breeezy333 Hmm, maybe sounds naive but it could be just for competition you think ? The Direct Drive market at the moment is pretty saturated I believe, this actually blow a wind into it, just like when Fanatec decided to launch the Ready2Race bundle, just for competition

[@Breeezy333]

@@buster-thevirtualracer9104 Moza has come into the ring a young fighter swinging for the quick knockout trying to imprint themselves everywhere, but whats their identity. Part of Fanetec’s downfall was not staying in their lane. Unfortunately whether it’s sim racing games or companies such as equipment the big slower methodical moving companies last. Ppl have completely shit on Thrustmaster, Logitech, etc. but these companies will last because their identity is solid. But to be honest the true answer for Moza’s markdowns is because they know their products are not as good as their marketing and they are striking will the irons hot. Lol…. They just pumped out two VISION wheels and Active pedals and ppl are literally talking about Moza is the best company in all of Sim Racing. Moza management is incredibly smart, their taking advantage of below average intelligence. But it will only last so long and then everyone will talk about Moza’s stale and move on to the next new thing.

[@Rrrryamm]

​@@Breeezy333Les autres sont plus chers que Moza, parce que ce sont des voleurs 👌

[@rdeh1678]

Please go moza , fanatec is done

[@OffWorldCorp]

Didn't Endor go bankrupt, Fanatec itself is owned by that company, and didn't go bankrupt afaik, hence why people want to buy Fanatec.

[@ph3d]

R5 and R12 actually im running this firmware on the 5

[@SarahNocchi]

Oh cool! I thought they hadn’t released it on the other ones yet. Are you happy with the changes?

[@ph3d]

​@@SarahNocchiYeah it's great pedals where calibrating weird though if I remember correctly

[@Targeting-Must-End]

Does the Moza overheat after some minutes? Why did you do the swopp

[@frallorfrallor3410]

for gt 7 dotn ever pick moiza IT dosnt work go instead fanatec dd extreme and any wheel

[@bokomassine8124]

hi from Russia! Right choice! Moza the best!

[@SarahNocchi]

Hi! Yes great bundle for sure, very happy with it especially after the update