MOZA R9 Sim Racing Wheelbase | LONG TERM Review

[@taytay691]

Great video man! Surprised you have less than 100 subs, so keep up the great work!

[@CKSimRacing]

Thanks a lot for your kind words, I really appreciate that! Let's see, maybe I'll hit 100 soon 🙂

[@CKSimRacing]

@rob9854 Thanks a lot mate! This kind of feedback really keeps me going 😊

[@davidslater5965]

Great review mate, can't belive you only have 260 subscribers, I'm moving from a Clubsport 2.5 to either the R9 or R12 (hard to get at the moment) Keep up the good work and you now have 261 and will look at your other reviews.

[@CKSimRacing]

@davidslater5965 Thanks a lot David! Holiday season is over now, so a lot of new content is in the making. I'd recommend to go for the R12 since there is a little more headroom.

[@alexlupitini3478]

i side way to stire profiles “cloud” wise is to use the mobile app, i saved my settings on the phone and when i bought the new pc use the app to configure the wheelbase

[@CKSimRacing]

That's really useful to know - I gotta admit: I haven't tried the mobile app unfortunately

[@alexlupitini3478]

@ may i ask you what setting do you use for the R9, i also have it and still haven’t find a setting to reduce clipping without losing infos (mainly i race on ACC) thanks

[@Ryzard]

Great production value! Thanks for the video :)

[@CKSimRacing]

@@Ryzard Thank YOU!

[@Kur0Kam1]

good content and great editing. keep it up ;)

[@CKSimRacing]

@Kur0Kam1 thanks a lot mate, will do 🙂

[@brandontrish86]

Great review! And i think it confirms my plan to start out with the R5 bundle to get into driect drive and move into the R12.

[@CKSimRacing]

Hey there Brandon, thanks for watching and I'm glad you liked it and it helped! My recommendation would be to just go for the R12 if you can afford it or to check out equivalent wheelbases such as Asetek or Simagic in the same NM range. You WILL want to upgrade pretty soon after getting used to the R5, I bet ya!

[@chrismathewsjr]

My suggestion would be to go with Simmagic out of the gate - 3 out of 4 of my Moza products were defective over the last two years. My R9v1 bricked a CSv1 wheel and the wireless transmitter was intermittent, making the repairs troublesome. It took months before Moza sent me a new part transmitter part, which worked worse and was difficult to replace. Finally they just suggested I buy a R9v2 and a new wheel. The HGP shifter I bought was DOA and would only shift up, so I just returned it. The CRP pedals worked fine.

[@jdmzen]

The video was high quality! subbed. I just ordered a r9 bundle earlier today. I am upgrading from a logitech g920. Can't wait! Hopefully it will help me drift better lol

[@CKSimRacing]

Thanks a lot mate, I'm glad it was helpful! That's really cool, you'll love the difference

[@Sithhy]

I mean, a simple Thrustmaster T300 would've been much better at drifting than a G920, no R9 is necessary, but congrats on the purchase anyway

[@BlackbirdGLI]

Just got the R9 bundle upgrading from a Thrustmaster t150. This new rig better be good!

[@CKSimRacing]

@BlackbirdGLI you'll notice a severe difference mate, promise! I wish you lots of fun with it!

[@THESHADOW97139]

19:58 ...... Yes alpha mini "V1" 13 nm , but the following models have 10 nm. The difference seems to be in the power supply 😉

[@garythesnailsdad]

Man, I really didn’t like it as much. I’ll take the Alpha mini over the entire moza line up any day of the week. With the price drop. The Neo+Mini+P1000 is a chefs kiss. I like it more than Asetek, la prima. The Moza is just not it. The software is 100 times better than simagic but the hardware feels lacking. It heats up after awhile and smells burnt. The pedals are ehh. Still a good product. Just comparing them to current market pricing. You could get something more raw. Moza is popular. They are selling a ton of units. Just don’t think it’s the better product. Idk man just my two cents, no hate just my opinion. Good work! Keep it coming.

[@CKSimRacing]

Hey there and thanks a lot for joining the discussion. I'm totally cool with your opinion mate, no offense taken at all 😊 Unfortunately, I didn't get to test more simagic products other than the neo but I guess it's pretty solid quality gear! Thanks for sharing your experience, so others can profit from that as well!

[@bodasafur6078]

The nrg quick release is nice but mozas version has got issues , whether its quality control or poor materials but some new wheels have had loose fitting qr which causes a hideous rattling when in use also after time the wear and tear can cause the same rattling , there are videos online that show this issue , i actually think the Simucube and Asetek qr s are the most sturdy and robust .

[@CKSimRacing]

@bodasafur6078 Hey there, thanks for pointing that out. Regarding wear and tear, my R9 and both of my wheels didn't suffer from that fortunately. They still operate as if they were new, maybe I'm lucky 🙂 but maybe it's the same as with ratings on Amazon for products: lots of people are happy about their stuff without posting a review and the ones who've had issues are, of course, talking about it in their reviews. The only sign of wear was a little bit of creaking in my GS V2 wheel, which had developed over time, I've talked about it in my review as well. Regarding the Asetek and Simucube QRs...well, at least for one of them I can confirm that it's insanely sturdy and robust 😏 stay tuned and thanks for your comment!

[@blacknovella]

yeah i heard about this.. it was a QC issue.. in the first batch.. that has been resolved since then i beleive... i have a simagic alpha u tho so i cant say from personal experience.

[@Casketman20]

I got my ES wheel in about a week but the base was MIA. I later found out via the Moza discord that the distributor here in the states ships everything via Amazon and although the website said the base was in stock, Amazon had it out of stock and when it was in stock, the price was higher than what I had paid. After 3 more days of waiting for it to ship once in stock and zero communication. I cancelled my order and went to a store to but the base at a cheaper price (Black Friday sale). The base is fine, just don't buy it from the Moza website and expect it to ship within a day or 2. I do wish I had waited and bought something else honestly. Asetek might've been my choice (thanks Matt Malone) or even Simagic but I'll hold on to this for now. Just not sure if I want to invest more money into the ecosystem by buying another wheel.

[@CKSimRacing]

@Casketman20 Hey Casketman, now that sounds like an awful story, sorry for you mate! But yes, I have ordered the moza handbrake shortly after its release and it was shipped directly from China. Took about two weeks to arrive. I've read many comments about Moza having bad shipping when ordering directly via their website. Always check for a local reseller

[@momsspaghetti6582]

I always buy my moza equipment from sim motion US, those guys are awesome

[@CKSimRacing]

@momsspaghetti6582 Yeah we also have multiple resellers here in Germany. These guys are way quicker

[@bodasafur6078]

Ive owned the moza r9 unforunately and now own Asetek gear and its not even a competition moza cannot even be uttered in the same sentence tbh the Asetek gear is just on a different level of build quality, performance , smoothness, i would tell anyone on the fence its a no brainer to pay the bit extra for a much much superior product .

[@CKSimRacing]

@@bodasafur6078 Nice, seems like you're having a blast with it! Which wheelbase did you get? I also have a new one now, which is absolutely incredible and I'll also review it. Regarding the R9 - I don't regret that I've had it. It was sort of my sim rigs evolution and I'm fine with it since I've advanced as well so to speak :)

[@blacknovella]

shout to my homie matt malone

[@CKSimRacing]

Matt Maloooouuune in the summer here we GOOooouuuuUUoououuuu :D I love him, great guy!

[@tigerbalm666]

Also, the hub is as gud or even better than other DD costing many times more $$$. No proprietary BS!

[@bobykim5311]

Coming from trustmaster TS-PC into MOZA R9 + KS wheel. Yes, there is a difference between belt driven and direct drive. BUT!...the forces per game are just the same. A DD wheel does NOT create the game FFB force. If a game lacks physics translation into FFB while under or oversteer, a DD wheel wont "create" those forces. The game devs should program it. So do not think a DD wheel will give you forces you did not feel before. The wheel can amplify but cannot create. All by all: very happy with the MOZA R9. Coming from TS-PC 6,5 NM running at 75%, 9NM from de R9 is more than enough for me.

[@CKSimRacing]

Hey there and thanks for joining the discussion! Absolutely true, the game telemetry is responsible for what you're feeling in the ffb and a DD won't give you more of that. The main difference that I remember between both systems was definitely the response time. The DD motor is just superior against the belt driven design in terms of performance. And yes, 9Nm is plenty and will probably be more than enough for most users. Congratulations for your R9!

[@bobykim5311]

@@CKSimRacing Thanks mate! I am a very happy user and luckily the R9 + KS wheel is a product for which i think: I should have bought this sooner. Happy racing!

[@tkdmp5698]

The R12 is the biggest competitor? Let me disagree i think the alpha mini beats both BTW really high quality and straight to the point Oscilations,heat and the steps You mentioned everything good job! When i buy something that expensive the first thing i think is what could go wrong? What is the weak link? The mini has higher encoder,smoother with less steps,more mounting points and IMO much prettier Also the GT NEO i hear is better quality Moza choosing to go with the same encoder res with the R5 R9 is kinda disappointing Personally i cant find a reason why choose R12 insted of the mini

[@CKSimRacing]

@tkdmp5698 Hey there, really good points, thanks for putting them in here and for entering the discussion! I'm absolutely convinced that the mini is the best choice of all the mentioned devices but I didn't have the chance to test it unfortunately. On paper its less Nm than the R12 but its about the same price. But the whole package is definitely better i guess! Regarding the GT Neo... 😄 stay tuned, there might be something on the way! And yeah I totally agree, I'm also relying on all the reviews here on KZbin and I watch every single one of them in order to justify my buying decision for myself because there is no "sim racing store" where I could try everything and make up my mind what would be the best product to get. Thank you very very much for your positive feedback as well, that's really motivating 🙂

[@tkdmp5698]

@@CKSimRacing You are a small channel but you may ask them to let you try it You dont know what happens You have good quality content and who know you might get bigger😀

[@tkdmp5698]

I subbed

[@CKSimRacing]

@tkdmp5698 thank you so much mate. I appreciate each and every subscriber! I'll try to reach out to companies soon! Thanks a ton mate, means a lot to me!!!

[@SIMRIG412]

@@tkdmp5698they definitely aren’t going to send a simagic mini when he only has 122 subs! That makes no sense for a company! Especially when there are enough reviews on simagic

[@FOREST10PL]

Hey! I just wanted to let you know that newer versions of Moza R9v2 actually have front mounting now.

[@CKSimRacing]

Oh really? I checked the product description on MOZAs website but I couldn't find any info about that after reading your comment. It would be quite nice if they'd add the option for front mounting for sure but power output wise I think the R9 is gonna be fine when it's bottom mounted

[@Sithhy]

Are you sure? There doesn't seem to be a way to front-mount it unless you undo the bolts that hold it together & then screw it to the mount that way

[@asSIMuNation]

The cogging is because it is not true servo motor... Closer in structure to a stepper motor. Open it up and you can count the poles. So yea like i said, a lot of questionable product claims. And this extends to a lot of their other products.

[@mrmidnight32]

Do they still overheat and cut at 7nm?

[@CKSimRacing]

Short answer, yes, though I can't confirm whether it cuts at 7Nm. The long answer can be found at 16:30 in the video. Once dialed in correctly, it doesn't cut the power anymore and it won't clip as well

[@julienbrightwell]

I’m gonna try to get my friend to sub you’d deserve it

[@CKSimRacing]

Thank you so much mate!!

[@Snakkers]

The base is not strong enough. Now owning a r21.

[@CKSimRacing]

@Snakkers Congratulations on the R21. I've also considered this one but eventually picked a different brand when I updated. I agree, the R9 might not be strong enough, once you've advanced in your sim racing journey but it's a very solid entry into the direct drive market and I guess that many people will keep it at that level maybe. Highly subjective topic but I'm happy for you getting the R21! Is the detail a lot different?

[@Snakkers]

@@CKSimRacing ya there is alot more detail. And no more heating problems becose of max output for more than 2 hours.

[@Snakkers]

@@CKSimRacing any suggestions for sim pedals? Around 800 euro.

[@jasonkinzer4200]

​@@CKSimRacing is the r9 you own the v1 or v2? I ask because others with the v2 have said that Moza has fixed the overheating issue and that the v2 does not overheat after hours of use.

[@CKSimRacing]

@jasonkinzer4200 hi Jason, good point! I do have the V2! I've also read about the V1's overheating issues. But as mentioned in the video, if the settings are set up right and if it's not under full load the whole time, it may get warm but it's not gonna dial down the power

[@ReJustas]

Actually, the Logitech G29 is gear-driven, not belt-driven. Otherwise, great video!

[@CKSimRacing]

Oh my, thanks for pointing that out! I don't wanna publish misleading information. Thank you for your nice feedback and for watching 🙂

[@tigerbalm666]

I went from R5 to a R9++GS formula wheel+ Fanatec V3 pedals+Dash unit.....I will NOT be uipgrading anymore! I run R9 @ 40-45% strength...any more it's too strong to steer and much more than a real car!

[@CKSimRacing]

Haha I've said that multiple times to myself regarding NOT upgrading anymore. But hey, you've got a really nice setup and basically, as long as it works and you are satisfied, having fun and improving in your races, there seriously is no reason to upgrade! Also having more Nm won't make you faster. Yes, there are stronger wheelbases and yes some are having more detail and such but the only thing that matters is that you are happy with what you have :)

[@ukaszbarys4263]

Real car?? only...

[@mkatakm]

R12 made this obsolete. Close prices but much better.

[@CKSimRacing]

Hey there and thanks for watching as well as joining the conversation! Even though I haven't tried it yet, I agree, the R12 might be a better choice. But for some people who are limiting their budget or who simply wanted to get into direct drive systems, the R9 might still be a good solution!

[@Cobra206]

Te shifter paddles are extremely noisy.

[@CKSimRacing]

I agree, the GS V2 shifters are a little more on the loud side