Mozart - Fantasy K.475 & Piano Sonata No. 14, K.457 (1784) {Ingrid Haebler}

[@rnregan]

22:40 Second movement of Sonata Pathetique

[@mduftube]

Her touch in the slow movement is especially astonishing. Utterly beautiful playing.

[@weiliu3623]

Slow with fine dynamics, controlled rubato that always comes back on the tempo regularly.

[@christopherkeller7734]

Once I heard Haebler, I have seldom gone back.

[@aprilh3882]

haebler is definitely the best ever interpreter of these sonatas. you can have a special favourite of someone else's here or there, but no one nails it so tastefully and truthfully across the whole output.

[@vittoriomarano8230]

...absolutely true.

[@weiliu3623]

By these you must mean the complete Sonatas she recorded, not just the couples here. I agree.

[@EGMusic12]

This sonata has by far my favorite second movement, it's so beautiful!

[@orlandodilasso2319]

Mozart vorzüglich interpretiert von einer hervorragenden Künstlerin.

[@elmiramuradova561]

Ингрид одна из лучших исполнителей великого Моцарта❤

[@KrzysztofBoris]

Beethoven was 15 years old when Mozart wrote these pieces and Beethoven was 27 years-old when he penned his Sonata No 8, perhaps in homage to Mozart. When I first heard Mozart's Sonata No 14, I actually thought I was listening to Beethoven. Could not comprehend what I was experiencing and read through the scores. The confusion immensely improved my opinion of Mozart's breadth of brilliance. Anyone else have similar encounter?

[@Jen-Yueh_Hu]

Yes this piece showed that Mozart is not all just cheerful and joking all the time. Mozart was far more naturally talented than Beethoven. If he had lived longer, I think he would have developed more "serious" or Beethoven style as he grew older with far better harmonies than Beethoven could ever imagine.

[@everab1209]

​@@Jen-Yueh_Hu Well, I think better of late Beethoven than young Beethoven. Beethoven was a genius, thought not as naturally gifted as Mozart. But for me, what made Beethoven great was his creative insights in his late days: the 9th Symphony, 30-32 sonata ( 32 anticipates ragtime) and Grosse Fugue. I think that if Mozart would have lived longer he would have spoiled Chopin rather than Beethoven. But we never know.

[@ignacioclerici5341]

@@Jen-Yueh_Hu dude, Mozart is not joking or cheeeful, his music in major in some of the best on history, its full on mindblowing masterpieces, it doesnt need to be minor or have complex harmony to be a masterpiece

[@caterscarrots3407]

@@Jen-Yueh_Hu Yeah. He was already heading that way with Sonata no. 14(resembles the Pathetique Sonata, similar opening to Piano Sonata no. 1 in F minor) and Symphonies 39-41(39 sharing a lot with Eroica and 40 and 41 both having similarities with Beethoven's Fifth). Maybe he would have written Theme and Variations pieces based on Beethoven's themes like how Beethoven did with Mozart's themes.

[@franciscomiguelrengelmoren7098]

I think that if Mozart had lived longer, he would have evolved as a natural signature in his piano technique to the point that some of his experimental works show styles or polish that would come from notable geniuses such as Chopin, Beethoven and Schubert. What's more, I think that Mozart would have hit a style similar to that of Chopin and Schubert due to his melodism when composing, and at a symphonic level, without a doubt, Schubert is the closest thing to what a romantic Mozart could sound like. I have no doubt that the symphonies after Jupiter composed between 1791 and his death in 1820 would have been more expansive than those of Beethoven but keeping clear his own original style where Mozartian operatic melodism is essential, since Beethoven's compositional style is not so melodic but is based on brief leivs motivs, for that reason if it could be Making a romantic symphony in the Mozart style would clearly show that original style that when you listen to his melodies you know it is Mozart's because of his delicacy, sensuality and such a subtle way of expressing the emotions that overwhelm him that perhaps only Chopin at the piano comes close and that Mozart has an intimate and modest way of expressing his character like any introverted genius who he wants to appear to be extroverted because his personality is not that of a raging volcano like Beethoven but that of a man with a sense of humor towards the public but who hides the emotions that affect him, he would therefore have been a classicist romantic like Schubert and Mendelshonn also

[@sirdicaudore]

What a perfect reading by Haebler!!!

[@ballaarnold8255]

Classical music is underrated

[@vittoriomarano8230]

...underrated by who???

[@syourke3]

Not by people who actually appreciate great music. Only by people who are musically ignorant.

[@waukee321]

It's just not played in schools anymore when they used to have music class in elementary and Jr High School. Most of those classes along with Art classes have been cut out of the curriculums. Most kids today probably don't even know it exists.

[@carmenmarini2692]

Spesso mi piace ascoltare a occhi chiusi la musica classica eseguita al pianoforte! Amo Mozart

[@vittoriomarano8230]

Two priceless jewels made of love love love for beauty and love 🎼🎹❤

[@mmbmbmbmb]

Thank you for the interesting write-up to this marvelous Sonata . . . (and all the others you provide).

[@bartjebartmans]

Many thanks!

[@lawrenceinmusic6213]

Se chiudi gli occhi, la musica diventa più bella... 💚

[@elmiramuradova561]

O,Bartje,I've known you for how many years)) this is wonderful❤ Thank you

[@LukS626]

What a magnificent upload - I secretly hoped for your upload of the Fantasy soon after the C-minor sonata. Wonderful, thank you very much.

[@carlosmontes6568]

Adagio...& Allegro Assai ....Splendid!!!!!

[@trysubscribe25]

Thx it makes me feel happy

[@zvezdinki7998]

This is Mozart hand notes?

[@elmiramuradova561]

❤yes

[@chowturtlezpabus]

Opening sounds like the opening to Chopin's first ballade

[@joaobutmozartsfan9658]

Most of mozart c minor works are going to start with this forte playing c then e flat, its funny to notice

[@michelecocco7328]

The first measures of Molto Allegro reminds me of the 1rst movement from Beethoven's "The tempest"

[@alecsachs32]

The second movement sounds a little bit like the second movement of Beethoven’s Patetique Sonata.

[@aaravamin397]

Surprised the Fantasy isn't as popular as the Somata, it's really good.

[@caterscarrots3407]

I know right. And yet I heard the sonata long before I heard the fantasia.

[@avantapres1582]

Sorry if I'm wrong but, few years ago, you published a comparison between an _Aria_ by Mozart and the _Fantasy_ in Fm by SCHUBERT, did you? My problem is I do not remember which _Aria_ it was. I would pleased if you could help me.

[@avantapres1582]

_Barbarina's Cavatina_ . I find the answer. Thank you anyway

[@bartjebartmans]

Yes, that was on my old channel which got terminated. I should re-do that video.

[@karthiksekaran6140]

Bartje Bartmans glad to know I wasn’t the only one who found Schubert’s fantasy eerily similar to L’ho perduta me meschina

[@class87srule]

Yeah, thas autograph. Most of his manuscripts were playable from.

[@canman5060]

Are these two works usually perform together ?

[@FrostDirt]

Yep, think of the Fantasy as a prelude.

[@Jen-Yueh_Hu]

I played the Sonata by itself and people kept saying to me I should learn the Fantasia as well.

[@danal81]

Ah there is Beethovenism in that third movement of the sonata :)

[@DavidS_Tan]

Beethoven learned from Mozart, lol

[@jeanghika7653]

Vous pouvez dire tout au plus, qu'il y a du "Mozartisme" dans Beethoven. Vous n'allez pas dire que les Egyptiens se soient inspirés de l'horreur qui dépare le complexe du Louvre.

[@danal81]

@@jeanghika7653 not at all. That comment shows twisted and erroneous logic. Mozart is the ground, the predecessor. In this case, that ground served to inspire a different composer to form his own style and doctrine. Looking back, we can hear those well-developed styles and doctrines in the works of their predecessors. So, there is Beethovenism in Mozart. In this work, Mozart made it possible. Museums collect works and often are based on stolen inheritance. Great composers learn from each other. Beethoven studied his colleagues, and took those elements of their music he found interesting and significant to further elaborate into his own style.

[@danal81]

@@DavidS_Tan yes. Beethoven learned from Mozart. So, he analyzed his music and applied certain elements in his own music. Then he developed those into his unique style. Looking back, we can hear those small elements in Mozart’s music that became Beethoven’s style. So, there is “Beethovenism” in Mozart’s music. Is that clearer now? Lol shmlol

[@danal81]

Don’t be stupid people. Saying there is “Beethovenism” in Mozart, doesn’t mean Mozart took something from Beethoven. It means we can look back and hear in Mozart’s music those elements that became unique Beethoven’s style. I mean this should be very clear without me having to waste my time to explain.

[@Jean_Angelo_SaezCompositor]

8:55

[@juancarlosuribe6533]

Em general muy buena interpretacion. No sé por qué el allegro es interpretado de esa manera ta violenta y agresiva. Realmente la parte más bella y tierna de la sonata es tratada como un potro rebelde...

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