MP Patch Example Ep #9 tELHARMONIC Drone

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[@jasonbarile2014]

Things like this make it super clear to me how you can get stuck in a rut with a complex rack, and sometimes all you need is 3 modules to do something awesome. Great work!

[@DivKid]

Cheers Jason. :)

[@jsogman]

totally beautiful. reminds me of some of the best 90s ambient

[@DivKid]

good reference, definitely on a similar vibe.

[@thomas_ad]

Just gorgeous. A rare piece that engages and meditates

[@DivKid]

Great work from Matthew Shaw (he made this patch for Modular Podcast).

[@RobinRimbaudScanner]

Truly elegant and organic sounding. Beautiful.

[@DivKid]

Yeah beautiful work by Matthew. Shame he's such an uncouth ruffian!

[@256k_]

im at work with a headache and having trouble focusing and this randomly starts playing and all of a sudden i feel more relaxed and zen... this is beautiful

[@eriddle]

I'm just getting into modular and I think I just found my next three modules! Beautiful patch.

[@DivKid]

lot of fun to be had with them that's for sure!

[@ShilohJanowick]

I keep coming back to this video!

[@DivKid]

lovely little patches like these really draw me in too.

[@toximan2008]

restrictions bring out the ultimate creativity

[@DivKid]

absolutely spot on.

[@RobertKgma]

I wanted to hear how this combination sounded before I purchased. now I know that it was gonna sound exactly how I wanted. Your a lej divkid!

[@lawrencebigsky5399]

absolutely magical...amazingly organic from just a little bit of kit

[@DivKid]

Yeah Matthew manages to get a hell of a lot out a small system.

[@jamesl5944]

3 module challenge has shown me many times you can get music out of a starter system (I'm impatient). Starting with Telharmonic, Toppobrillo filter and SSF dual vca/env thingy... gonna build a couple of voices this way and see how they cross pollinate. Selling fixed synths to do it and not even mad... Two questions... how many wavetable DCOs is too many - I'm confident I can justify a variety of those, haha... and have you ever tried Trogotronic modules? I'm not big on whole voice modules (unless they're not too big and have interesting patch points) but that toob voice looks awesome for drones.

[@DivKid]

not heard the term wavetable DCO before. DCO usually refers to a digitally controlled oscillator that's analog (Junos, DeepMind etc). Not sure if you can do wave tables with direct voltage control making in a VCO ... food for thought! Anyway ... Glad the 3 module challenge has provided some inspiration for you. I still really love the concept and use it all the time. Building your system as a series of mini sub patches is a wise move, it _should_ mean you get the most out of them all as you go. I find digital oscillators (wavetables or otherwise) have such depth and variety that I don't think you can limit the amount you're willing to have in your system. Build slowly and let that inform your purchases.

[@rgcmusic]

This track is fantastic. I can't believe this is just 3 modules.

[@DivKid]

Yeah Matthew did a stunning job with this one.

[@DBPawlan]

I really wish that we could get Matthew to explain more about this patch. The signal flow from the Nano Rand is the most confusing as it's easily the least common module in the patch. Any chance we can get him to at least map out what is being patched into where?

[@DivKid]

Hi David, I know Matthew likes a little bit of mystery in his magic patching but I'll bring it up. As always we've all got loads to do so probably won't revisit this in an actual show. But ... I'll try my best to look at what's happening and break it down. So here goes ... It looks like he's patched the noise output back up to the S+H input. Then the S+H output is going into the tELHARMONIC degree input. The gate output is going into the D-Gate, this will be random gates and bursts / changing rhythms. The random output is going into the interval control. That looks to be it. tELHARMONIC was in shift register mode rotating notes around it's voices. And I know Clouds was in the looping delay mode.

[@DBPawlan]

Thanks! I'm thinking about getting a Nano Rand just so I can reproduce this patch. I think that Matthew sprinkled a little magic dust on that patch or something though, so don't like my chances....

[@martystep4772]

...i ended up purchasing a telharmonic...yeah baby... :)

[@DBPawlan]

I have all of these modules and can't get the sounds that he got. Will keep trying and post if I'm successful!

[@DBPawlan]

I think that I've gotten a close approximation of it. Re-flashed my Clouds back to original firmware which made a huge difference. soundcloud.com/waredgo/tascam-0041

[@indiefilmcomposer]

music is art here simplicity is admirable

[@DivKid]

absolutely.

[@soundunitz]

Great example of why you should own one of these modules.

[@DivKid]

cheers

[@BlueSB017]

Super lovely and has soothed my man flu

[@DivKid]

take some time off if you can, if it's anything like what's gone around everyone in my house it'll take some shifting!

[@Dogboy73]

Excellent. I've been interested in the Telharmonic for a while after seeing some cool drone videos that used it as the main sound source. Now I'm sizing up my first modules it's back on the radar. But not completely sure about it yet. Very interesting looking & sounding module. Clouds likewise. But I think it's discontinued now isn't it?

[@DivKid]

Clouds is discontinued but you won't struggle to get one. Some shops have stock still and it's open source and plenty of DIY builders/companies are making Clouds and offering them.

[@Dogboy73]

@@DivKid Cool. so options out there. I'm still really interested in the Telharmonic. I keep coming back to it. It's calling to me!! Ha Ha :D

[@Jaysusitsme]

Hey Ben, I’m about two years plus late to this party - but what module is that between Telharmonic and Clouds? Cheers 🍻

[@Jaysusitsme]

Disregard my question, I see you’ve answered further on down. Great drone though 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@DivKid]

no worries

[@Symmetry77]

Sounds huge.. This is why I want a Telharmonic, and a erb-verb :D

[@DivKid]

Both great modules!

[@dtiberio3967]

This is beautiful! I own these three modules and even following the patch points, I don't get this result. Can you explain what modes/settings are being used on the Telharmonic and Clouds?

[@DivKid]

I think shift register mode on the tELHARMONIC and Looping Delay on Clouds. I think the key is to get something similar you can experiment rather than exact replication of a patch. Hopefully that allows you get something similar you can play with.

[@dtiberio3967]

Thanks for the reply! Absolutely agree, but I just wasn't getting close even which seemed strange. I had Clouds in Looping Delay mode on the stock firmware but I'll have to check the telharmonic mode to see if that might have been the issue. I may even run a calibration on my Clouds to see if that could be it. Thanks for being a great human and for the work you do! It is great to hear you on Sonicstate lately too, hopefully that keeps up.

[@DivKid]

Yeah Nick at Sonic is great, I couldn't make it last week but was invited but maybe this week I'll get back on there. Let me know if you're still having trouble and I'll get onto Matthew that made this patch and ask.

[@dtiberio3967]

I've literally tried hundreds of combinations, and I can get some really cool stuff but nothing that is like this video sounds. It is definitely Shift Register mode and Looping Delay mode. If Matt has a minute and can recall any knob settings, I'd appreciate it. It has become more of a quest at this point :) The closest I have come all involve Centroid being all the way CCW, Flux all the way CW, Degree at 1 o'clock-ish, Interval and Tonic at 11 o'clock. Nano Rand at slowest clock rate and the purple LED algo setting.

[@robertsyrett1992]

Dude, you have so much freaking content.

[@DivKid]

yep! 595 videos to be exact.

[@AlbaEcstasy]

Beautiful!!

[@DivKid]

Cheers mate!

[@carianoff]

This is what I've been looking for.

[@DivKid]

nice one.

[@jonaseggen2230]

carianoff & DivKidVideo "these are not the droids you are looking for" but the drones we are looking for : ) soooo nice. and only done with these three modules as in the image? what is the midle one?

[@BiGreDNoSecoMpAny]

Its a Qubit Nano Rand, a Random module

[@peter_hostermann]

Beautiful! What's that small Module in the Middle?

[@DivKid]

Qu-Bit Nano Rand

[@richnewman]

@@DivKid Could this be substituted for a Turing Machine or Maths? I have those two already.

[@mo-dujanjiskra1025]

This is very nice! Beautiful! I would like to try it with my small system- I think I can use MN Wogglebug instead of Nano Rand- what do you think please??? Im bit confused of the names of inputs and outputs of both modules (as they have completely different names) so I cant say exactly how I can change it to wogglebug (patching)... Im new at eurorack...thanks for any help!

[@DivKid]

Wogglebug would work nicely in place of the Nano Rand for something like this definitely. The stepped CV output of the Wogglebug which is the top right output. Ask any questions anytime, happy to chat and help where I can.

[@mo-dujanjiskra1025]

Thanks a lot. im waiting for Clouds module, will try it after.

[@DivKid]

ok great, feel free to let me know how you get on.

[@mo-dujanjiskra1025]

So I tried it, but unsuccessfully. From the picture in the video, I cant see the exact patching and settings of the modules. Dont you have some better explain please?? Thanks a lot.

[@DJDemangone]

Love the podcast and this patch, I just picked up a Nano Rand because of it. To echo Jan's request below, do you have a clearer explanation on the exact patching? It's hard to trace the exact ins and outs in the image, plus it looks like some stackcables are being used. Thanks!

[@johnbeuck587]

Now I definetly want the Clouds!! But who is the guy in the middle??

[@DivKid]

Qu Bit Nano Rand, no longer made. It's proceeded by Chance which is a great module!

[@anthonyb3005]

www.qubitelectronix.com/modules/chance

[@TheHifiEnvelope]

The best use of Clouds yet, and I'm not a fan of that module. Well done!

[@DivKid]

I think this was the looping delay mode.

[@yongamusic]

I’d love to use this for music I’m making for a dance performance. Is that something you’d consider, Ben?

[@DivKid]

You've have to get in touch with Matthew Shaw "The Shaw Institute" if you wish to use his music.

[@yongamusic]

DivKidVideo Thanks, I’ll do that.

[@jerod-s-rivera]

Excellent patch. Whats that module in the middle?

[@DivKid]

Qu-Bit Nano Rand

[@kuorinki]

dont know anything about modulars... could i actually get a working ambient system with just these 3 modules or would i need some other modules as well?

[@DivKid]

Hey kuorinki, these 3 modules will give you a load to explore and it would work really well with for create ambient drones etc. But I don't think they're the best 3 modules to start learning on as you may get frustrated with some steep learning curves if you're not aware of synthesis much in general. That said ... depending on your approach you could just dive in and see how you get on.

[@Dogboy73]

Cool. So this just uses the 3 modules shown in the picture?

[@DivKid]

yep literally nothing else.

[@Dogboy73]

What's triggering things here? Is it all coming from the Nano Rand?

[@DivKid]

yes

[@Dogboy73]

DivKidVideo I’m amazed you can get such a great sound and control from such a compact setup. Especially the Nano Rand. Very cool and encouraging as I have limited space and budget. I keep coming back to the Telharmonic. Probably a lot to do with demos like this one. It’s a very interesting module.

[@DivKid]

Matthew Shaw patched up and made this one. Check all of the #3modulechallenge stuff we started as Modular Podcast that might be helpful for getting a small focussed going.

[@LeeCantare]

ah this is incredibly inspiring very cool!

[@DivKid]

Matthew Shaw (he made this patch) is great and I agree very cool patch.

[@user-ed5ix1sw6i]

what mode is the clouds in? awesome patch

[@DivKid]

looping delay

[@jazzbeats8168]

so beautiful, whats the small module in the middle?

[@DivKid]

Hey Jazz Beats, Qu-Bit Nano Rand, no longer made as it's now replaced by their new look "Chance" (which is killer btw).

[@SayZit]

I want this sound! What is the middle one of those modules?

[@DivKid]

Qu-Bit Nano Rand. Matthew talks about this patch in the Modular Podcast show these patch examples support.

[@mntbighker]

Today it would be an OCHD in the middle?

[@trinkssven2221]

Hey, nice Patch! What’s the module in the middle?

[@NutritionalZero]

Trinks Sven It’s a Qu-Bit Nano Rand. It was discontinued, but re-released this month.

[@dragonstuff1983]

What's the module in the middle?

[@sssncodesstuff3364]

Qu-bit Electronix Nano Rand

[@BlueSB017]

Boy am I looking forward to minimal patching with the Telharmonic when it arrives tomorrow. Great patch!

[@DivKid]

This is a Matthew Shaw patch, king of the tELHARMONIC drone action.

[@barondelararie]

Phenomenal.

[@DivKid]

thanks

[@snörre23]

I think you could do that with a microfreak (or any cheapo synth) and an echo pedal. Not as cool though, i know.

[@jurj4108]

Technically true... The following question would be: Are your cheapo synth and the echo pedal as open ended as these guys? ;)

[@walrtbstudios5430]

Most of the fun with modular is working out how to ‘replicate’ (do better!) the fixed architecture in a cheapo synth. Ben knows that better than most I think…

[@FlorianScheibeinLeap]

simply amazing!

[@DivKid]

yeah great patch from Matthew Shaw.

[@FlorianScheibeinLeap]

@@DivKid I will try this with my wogglebug instead of the Nano Rand.

[@DivKid]

yeah cool, should be good.

[@lisbonlion1967]

I love this!!

[@DivKid]

Yeah we'll have to keep Matthew involved a little longer it seems! :)

[@danielsolomon63]

will i be able to to get same results with Pam's New Workout's random?

[@DivKid]

In a word - no. The unique feature of the Nano Rand is the random gate that changes it's divisions (it might give you a triplet, 16ths, 32nds, 8ths etc.) musically. You can get random gates tied to the same clock rate and stepped random from Pamela's NEW Workout though. You could CV the Pamela's NEW Workout with one of it's own stepped random sources to mimic it though ... so I I should change that word to YES.

[@Neon94100]

@@DivKid good answer

[@nikkortumblr]

what is this little module in the center?

[@gabrielmanzanedo]

Wow! So nice!

[@DivKid]

thanks

[@somnambulantable]

I think I just mentally bought a telharmonic. :P

[@DivKid]

haha gotta ease yourself into that.

[@TheNimasan]

please someone tell me what the name of the module in the middle??

[@customsynth]

love that

[@DivKid]

thanks

[@canecreek00]

Nice patch

[@DivKid]

cheers mate! Appreciate it.

[@weave_of_k]

is there link to this patch that I can check out?

[@DivKid]

We talk about it in the podcast show linked in the video description.

[@weave_of_k]

Lovely! Thank you.

[@DivKid]

no worries.

[@krakou2]

Cool af

[@DivKid]

thanks!

[@jasevaughan7829]

Amazing. Makes me wanna buy Clouds to go with my Telharmonic

[@DivKid]

definitely a killer pairing.

[@TheNimasan]

do you know whats the name of the module in the middle. i can't secognize it. i have clous and got the telharmonic today after searching like a maniac. would be great if you could help me to find that ot my man!!

[@jasevaughan7829]

@@TheNimasan nano rand i think?

[@TheNimasan]

@@jasevaughan7829 love you man. yeah thats it!!! thx. im gonna get that one.

[@jasevaughan7829]

@@TheNimasan No bother. Think its discontinued but you may find one come up on Modular grid now and again

[@NutritionalZero]

Good lord

[@DivKid]

:)

[@krakou2]

Can you make other type of sounds with this setup please?

[@wordscontrolminds]

IKR! Its good you can sound like Eno circa the ambient series, but what else does it do?

[@canecreek00]

+wordscontrolminds would it not be easier for you to look for more make noise telharmonic videos as that is the sound source here.

[@DivKid]

Hey Krakou2, yeah lots of sound options. I have videos for Mutable Instruments Clouds on my page and Make Noise have their own for the tELHARMONIC.

[@DivKid]

Good reference to Eno words controlminds. Check my comment to krakou2. There's a range of things these could do.

[@wordscontrolminds]

It was a compliment! ;-) I love all your stuff! Met Enos daughter other week, shes dating my mates son.

[@georgecathro1473]

What's the module in the middle?

[@precarious333]

Qu-Bit - Nano Rand www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-nano-rand

[@DivKid]

What he said! :)